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2008 [PART 2] and the Coffee Pot is still on and now 4 years old. Here we gather as friends with trains. Sweet ice tea too.

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Thursday, May 8, 2008 8:58 AM

Light rain after two beautiful days, and the grass is now going berserk.  Didn't follow wife's instructions after the last lawn mowing a couple of weeks back.  Rain and mowing schedule didn't work out since then.  Then last weekend's rains.  Her instructions?  Pick up the doggy doo doo.  Now I've got presents from the dogs hidden in the grass in the back.  The lawn mower wheels get pretty gross, not to mention my shoes.  Man, can they produce the waste products, and quickly.

Chief......re putting lime in your pond.  I know lime raises the ph of the water, but what else does it do?  Reduce certain species of undesireable plant life?  Help the fish?  With lawns, one 40 pound bag dropped on 1000 square feet will raise the ph level about 1 point.  I can't imagine how much lime would be required to raise the ph in a pond, especially if it has some depth to it.

Laz.....glad to hear you are getting those nasties removed.  A lot of us guys know better, but we seldom use sun block when we are going out in the sun: mowing, running, fishing, BBQs, sporting events, etc.  Melanomas from sun exposure can develop, and a predisposition to get them can be hereditary. 

Kurt....not sure what you mean about Mitch's bonding for the schools.  While there may be a cap on the maximum amount available to spend, there are no restrictions on reductions or under budget spending.  The penalties he's talking about would be money back, reductions in budgeted spending.

Mitch.....smart move having both a construction management firm and the BOE project manager.  Stay on them like flies on grits, with dated correspondence and issue detail. Your deadline doesn't move.  Those open houses and the first day of school:  "Mitch GOT IT DONE down to the details."  Taxpayers can be an unforgiving and cynical lot, and some will zero in on the 2% not done, not the mountain that was moved.

Brent.....school.  FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS.

Doug.....watch out for scorpions hitching a ride in your suitcase.

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Posted by kpolak on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:21 AM

 RockIsland52 wrote:
Kurt....not sure what you mean about Mitch's bonding for the schools.  While there may be a cap on the maximum amount available to spend, there are no restrictions on reductions or under budget spending.  The penalties he's talking about would be money back, reductions in budgeted spending. 

Typically the agreement between the Owner and Contractor would be a bonus to the contractor for finishing early and penalties for finishing late...A give and take agreement.  New schools typically sell bonds to fund the new construction, and don't have additional moneys set aside for bonus payments.  I was wondering how the financials are set-up for their new construction with this type of agreement.

Laz:  Glad your Bride has your back!  Praying things test negative.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:34 AM
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Brent.....school.  FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS.



I know! Have one individual paper to write, that gets turned in this coming Monday. Then I just have to do some 8 participation posts this week, next week, and the week after, finish my portion of my team paper (due on the 19th) and that is it. So not a lot of work to do. Thumbs Up [tup] I did lose 1 point this past week because I typed a 2 instead of a 4! (professor was just having fun with me - so I pointed out that I forgot to mention something in the paper that he was looking for! [;0]) LOL!

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I've been collecting the Lionel Christmas items since the Christmas Berkshire came out in 2004. Two years ago they came out with the North Pole Central Lines Passenger cars and the NPCL General. They look great together and the General has no problem pulling 5 passenger cars. This year they came out with two more cars and I have a feeling the General isn't going to cut it this year. So I decided to buy the Green Mikado that came out this year... it is in at the LHS and I stopped in to see it last night. Now Lionel in their INFINITE wisdom has decided to change the Mikados from NPCL to Holiday Lines Banged Head [banghead]. The Berk, since it is red, will be switched from freight duty to passenger duty, the General most likely will become a display piece, or haul some light freight duty (I have some older style christmas freight that will look nice with the General), and the Mikado will become the new freight hauler... and get a repaint in the process.
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Posted by laz 57 on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:38 AM

Thanks GIZ for the well wishes.  I go back for an in and out procedure, about 40 minutes day after schools out.

  KURT, LOL I'll tell the wife she's got my back.

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Posted by Sturgeon-Phish on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:44 AM

Morning from rainy Southern Ohio

Nice rain showers are predicted for all day.  I don't mind too much as I put out the garden yesterday and the rain will set the plants well.  Besides, I've got to prep for class this weekend and if it is nice out I'm tempted to do stuff rather than class prep.  This weekend I am up to deliver the homily (sermon) for class.  With this Sunday being Pentecost, the topic will be the Holy Spirit.  I have the homily written now it is fine tuning and practicing the delivery.  This will be graded and is a big part of this quarters class. 

Gas around here is $3.79, diesel is $4.39.  The truck is sitting a lot and only used if needed right now.  I've noticed not too many campers going on the roads right now.  The concept of camping to save money on vacations is fading.  As I figure it, if I tow 273 miles I have paid for a hotel stay for a night.

Mitch- Very savy.  At work one of the projects was walked down and signed off completed by someone who did not have the required skills and knowledge, or fortitude, and we subsequently had to pay BIG bucks to complete work that should have been done under contract.

Laz - I pray for complete removal of the melanoma and no recurrence.

Jack- Up till last year I had a Golden Retriever kept in the yard.  Poop patrol was a necessity.  I found you can reduce the amount of Poo by feeding a high quality food.  The less filler going in the less coming out I guess.

Well need to go, may God bless

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Thursday, May 8, 2008 10:27 AM
 kpolak wrote:

 RockIsland52 wrote:
Kurt....not sure what you mean about Mitch's bonding for the schools.  While there may be a cap on the maximum amount available to spend, there are no restrictions on reductions or under budget spending.  The penalties he's talking about would be money back, reductions in budgeted spending. 

Typically the agreement between the Owner and Contractor would be a bonus to the contractor for finishing early and penalties for finishing late...A give and take agreement.  New schools typically sell bonds to fund the new construction, and don't have additional moneys set aside for bonus payments.  I was wondering how the financials are set-up for their new construction with this type of agreement.

Kurt

I wonder too, and as you say, whether school districts are able legally to include a bonus provision for early completion in the RFPs and hence the bonding.

I'm not familiar with school construction and/or rennovation projects other than this:  while the powers that be and taxpayers debate what and how much will be approved and when, the construction costs escalate unabated and quickly during the debate process.  Kind of "He who hesitates is lost" syndrome, delaying the inevitable.

In my city, the construction costs estimate on the high school expansion/rennovation increased 28% while no concensus could be reached on the scope of the project.  It seems decisions couldn't or wouldn't be made until the State inserted an accredidation suspension date into the mix because of the facility's poor condition.  Only then, with a gun to their head, did the decision makers get off the dime and come together.  We wound up getting the same thing for about $14 million more, thank you very much.       

Chief wrote a good piece on one of the pitfalls of the process.....in his neck of the woods he was fighting on getting the land acquisition done for a fair price (lower) while others with less foresight were only looking at the construction cost side of the equation.  They needed one Chief and more Indians on that one.

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Posted by kpolak on Thursday, May 8, 2008 11:18 AM

 laz 57 wrote:
  I go back for an in and out procedure, about 40 minutes day after schools out. 

This is too easy....Where's Fife?  The one hand on the shoulder procedure????  Laugh [(-D]

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Posted by dwiemer on Thursday, May 8, 2008 11:44 AM

Laz, good thing you listened to wife.  Mine has saved me a few times.  Best wishes for your recovery...lot easier recovering from that than if they didn't get it so early.

Well, was going to be an easy day today, now it looks like I will be doing an emergency case.  Oh well, if it is a true emergency, I don't mind.  We should have a good day anyway.  Hope everyone has a great day.

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Posted by jmkk on Thursday, May 8, 2008 1:09 PM
 Afternoon all. Now that was a busy morning. My son had a feild trip to the zoo, so the whole familt went. We took him to school so he could ride the bus with all his friends, and the wife my daughter and I met him there. When we got there we said we could help keep an eye on some of the other kids. They assigned us two others besides our own. One of the other mothers and fathers we were standing with each got 2 besides there own. Boy i'll tell you what keeping an eye on 10 kids under the age of 5 wore me out. It was a good time though, Iam just beat. Talk later Iam going to watch Alvin and The Chipmunks with the kids and take a nap on the couch.

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Posted by fifedog on Thursday, May 8, 2008 2:45 PM

Evenin' boys.  Showers and 70 here in the Mid-Atlantic region.  Have to go to my middle girl's dance recital tonight (been practicing my polite golf clap all day).

Laz  - what's odd?

Brutus - not even, as in I'm still not going to elaborate on the Home Depot yadda-yadda.

kpolak - I don't joke about these things until they are way way behind in the rear-view mirror...No wait, I mean...you know what I mean...? I'm sorry, what were we talking about?  Oh yes, glad they found that mole in time, laz.

88 - Can't you just order the engine that you want?

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Thursday, May 8, 2008 2:45 PM

Wow, for got to post this morning.  Busy shooting squirrels and fixing breakfast.  Then hit the road running errands.  Gas went from 3.59 to 3.66 in one hour.  Been at Town Hall for photo for paper.  Then had to listen to Parks and Rec Advisory Board Chair [she does not realize they are ADVISORY only] female dog about us chewing the Parks and Rec Director for not doing his job and the newpaper printed it.  Now I am calling her when things get behind and he is not performing.  YOU handle the problem.  Good politician delegates to person who wants to gripe.  Rained a nice slow soaking rain.  Now sun is out and they are calling for big stuff this PM.  Maybe trains in a few minutes.  Later

PS: Jack, lime in pond does the same.  I probably need a ton but not spending the $$$$.  Do some at a time.  Also harder to put lime in pond than yard or garden [can't walk on water and JD will not run on top so I can spread it].  Will keep down the green slimey stuff that can form.   See I put in pond fertilizer [put bag in edge of water and slit open. Wave action and wind will distribute.  Too much fertilizer and you get algie bloom [I had big one last year].  If it dies too fast, eats up O2 and fish die.  You have to be careful.  

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 8, 2008 4:44 PM
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88 - Can't you just order the engine that you want?



Would if I could, but Lionel never has made one and it is now two years in a row that they have come out with Holiday Lines stuff instead of North Pole Central Line. So if I want to keep all the Christmas stuff NPCL then I have to repaint what doesn't come out in NPCL.
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Posted by fifedog on Thursday, May 8, 2008 4:58 PM
88 - Perhaps the North Pole would be better served by 2 competing lines, so that rates would be competitive, keeping shipping costs down...Cool [8D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, May 8, 2008 5:05 PM

Fife - LOL!

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Posted by RockIsland52 on Thursday, May 8, 2008 5:17 PM

Speaking about the price of gas.......The Massachusetts Bay Transit Authority (MBTA) which serves Boston and the metro area announced that 2008 weekday ridership is up 6.2% vs. prior year for all forms of ridership which includes busses, ferries, subway, and commuter rail.  As a segment, however, commuter rail ridership remains flat.  In other words, those travelling the greatest distances won't forsake their cars.  Go figure.  You'd think that those burning up the most gas would have been the first to make the switch.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, May 8, 2008 6:18 PM

Brent,

I've been using my NPCL Docksider for my Christmas freight cars. I've also been looking for that NPCL Berk but that must have been an extremely limited run or extremely popular, they are just not to be found anywhere.

The same as the Mickey & Minnie handcar, on E-Bay they go for above MSRP.

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Posted by dwiemer on Thursday, May 8, 2008 7:15 PM

Good Evening everyone!  Got my emergency case out of the way.  Enjoyed a quick dinner and then watched "Super Trains" on the DVR.  Has a lot of discussion of high speed train crashes.  Amazing how they figure out how things happen.  I have an uncle who is an accident investigator....would be a interesting line of work.

I am feeling run down, but hope to get some energy back with a few days of good sleep.  MIL and her husband are visiting this weekend for our daughter's ballet recital.  Should be fun...if she actually dances.  She has done so in the last two dress rehersals.

Doug, I will keep an eye out for that Berk for you.  I have seen them from time to time.  I had thought about buying one to repaint to Southern, but I'll give you first dibs if I find it.

Take care,

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Posted by Buckeye Riveter on Thursday, May 8, 2008 7:16 PM

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Buckeye, Some sad news today. Ohio Valley Trains, formerly Davis Trains, is closing it's doors. Whenever I got back that way to visit family Davis was always on my must visit list.

Doug....The whole operation had deteroiated over the last couple of years.  The next time you are in Cincinnati, there is a good train store in Mason and another one across the river in KY.   I have been dealing with TK near Wheeling, WV instead of Davis for the last year.

Mitch....My last training course in construction claims more or less told us to not to expect payment of liquidated damages.  However every state is different with their courts and judges.   I just completed a plan review and one thing that is always in the back of my mind is to avoid claims.  BTW, how much difference (percent) was there in the intial bids on the project?

Laz.....Do what the doctor says.

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 When we got there we said we could help keep an eye on some of the other kids. They assigned us two others besides our own. One of the other mothers and fathers we were standing with each got 2 besides there own. Boy i'll tell you what keeping an eye on 10 kids under the age of 5 wore me out. It was a good time though, Iam just beat.

The Chief, Chuck and a few others know why I'm LOL.  Wink [;)]

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Posted by jmkk on Thursday, May 8, 2008 7:39 PM
I would rather watch 5 year olds!Whistling [:-^]

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Posted by kpolak on Thursday, May 8, 2008 7:41 PM

Evening!

Sad day in Hockeytown...

Bride bought tickets for us to go to tonight's game 1...Both kids decided to let their noses start running...3-yo wakes up crying, and continues for 20 min after her nap...bees were attacking her...couldn't find a sitter.  She gave the tickets away, and I'm watching the game at home and typing.  Sigh [sigh]

I see the Penguins are still in it. 

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Posted by Brutus on Thursday, May 8, 2008 7:43 PM

88 and Doug, I would prefer a simple CHRISTMAS EXPRESS or something like that.  Holiday is a cop-out.  Maybe it's just me, but I don't think so from posts I've read before.

Fife - Laugh [(-D]

Doug M - hope you are having a seriously cool trip, my friend.  I would try to hit a hobby store, maybe you can pick up some stuff that they don't carry at your usual stores?

Don, apparently you left a souvenir behind last night?  I'll warm up the TARDIS in a little while and we can go back and get it, plus eat the rest of that chicken?!  We'll pick up Doug and Sir James later and then go to Kurt's for cookies and triffles?  I want to check out that control panel, it looks great to me! 

Laz, like I said before, prayers are for you my friend -- so glad your wife made you go!  Hey, maybe you can get a good skin doctor like Chief has?

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Posted by mitchelr on Thursday, May 8, 2008 8:14 PM
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Morning!

Mitch:  I'm glad the PM and Architect are doing the punchlist.  I didn't think schools were able to do bonus/liquidated damage contracts, since it could mean additional $$$ not included in bonds.  How were you able to swing this type of contract/funding?

Kurt - Truthfully I am not sure how liquidated damages work under Maryland School Construction Law.

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MITCH, be right down soon as school here lets out.  Should I bring tools? 

LAZ - I've got tools ...I'm just afraid of putting an eye out.... like Ralphie and the Red Ryder BB Gun.

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Mitch.....smart move having both a construction management firm and the BOE project manager.  Stay on them like flies on grits, with dated correspondence and issue detail. Your deadline doesn't move.  Those open houses and the first day of school:  "Mitch GOT IT DONE down to the details."  Taxpayers can be an unforgiving and cynical lot, and some will zero in on the 2% not done, not the mountain that was moved.

Jack - Having a PM Firm, Supervising Architect, and Construction Manager is Standard Operating Procedure in our district now.  In the long run, the PM saves $$$ because they are there everyday to catch the contractors who try to cut corners.  Our district has built almost a new school a year for the last 10 years plus some major renovations for older buildings and additional rooms to accommodate Full Day Kindergarten.  We had really been taken to the cleaners on a few jobs before we started hiring the PM's.  Our construction staff is too small to act as PM on the many different jobs, some are supervising four or five projects.

Buckeye - I don't think we will collect the damages either but hauling them to court (or the threat of it) seems to get their attention.   I am not sure how much of a difference (percent) was in the intial bids.  I know there are about 35 or so different subs that are doing the work.  I wish two or three of them could be eliminated from future bidding due to their lack of responsiveness.  Some of those guys are just plain cantankerous and had no intention of providing what it was they bid on.  The specs are so detailed and they try to slip by all the time, especially trying to substitute particle board where our spec says all furniture must be constructed with veneered plywood.

Take care,

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Posted by ChiefEagles on Thursday, May 8, 2008 8:46 PM
Storms all around.  None here [yet].   Tired.  Movie time and popcorn.  Got meeting at lunch [FREE MEAL] and then nothing. Big Smile [:D]  Will not have a lot of Miss Edna time Saturday as wife had invited her whole family for dinner on Sat. [Mother's Day meal as we go to my Mom's on Sunday].  All 30,000 will come.  Well, not quite that many.  Two sisters, their kids and "friends" and their kids and so on.   Not much in the way of trains going on.  Hey, am I retired? Laugh [(-D]  Need to call Social Security office.  I can draw next month.  Then I can get some of that money you all are working so hard to earn and give the Giverment. Whistling [:-^]  Later

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Posted by rtraincollector on Thursday, May 8, 2008 8:49 PM

Okay all If your going to pray for me to get this house nows the time as the loan goes in front of the underwriters tomorrow (Friday) for there reveiw and acceptance . If not I get to go back down tuesday to look for a mobile home and a lot. If yes I go down tuesday to close so either way tuesday I'm heading to SC

Laz watch it that could of been ungly glad it was found early.

by paperwork I got yesterday found out that because I'm heart patient even thou I'm back to full use I'm still concidered handicapped now I don't need or want (or think I'm egible) for a special parking place but kinda interesting knowing that lol.

My father lost his left arm in an accident in 1959 and he refused to get handicapped plates even thou he could.

not to much going on here tonight had to fax some more papers for the house but I've gotten all that taken care of.

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Posted by sir james I on Thursday, May 8, 2008 8:52 PM

EVENING ALL,

Kurt sorry for your misfortune, my wife is watching the game also.still 4 to 1 Detroit.

Guys the fridge is bare, you will have to settle for banilla or peach and cookies. Forget about the pj top, one of the dogs left a deposit last night and I needed to clean it with something so.

Skies cleared this afternoon but it stayed chilly. 60s hi & lo predicted for the next week. Take care all and pleasent dreams......S.J.

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Posted by fifedog on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:03 PM

Well, left the dance recital feeling awful "spiritual"... Proud of my girl;looked very mature up on stage.  Last day of a long stretch of daywork tomorrow---yippee.

rt - Hope you get your house.  Hope you get your job.  And hope you get a winning scratch-off too (you're certainly due).

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Posted by rtraincollector on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:06 PM
Got job just need place to live to accept it LOL

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Posted by cnw1995 on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:31 PM
Evening all. Decided to hike back to the 'villa' rather than wait for the shuttle bus. Sure is quiet here - like the mountains are listening. As the sun sets, all the wild life came out - thought of the Chief and Dennis and their rifles. Saw rabbits, roadrunners (no coyote) all on this little walk. Going home early tomorrow. Missed the local hobby store - it was closed.

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Posted by dougdagrump on Thursday, May 8, 2008 10:12 PM

Fife, You mean to say that you didn't do anything to embarass your daughter, that's what a dad is supposed to do. Whistling [:-^]

RT, You could always do a short term rental, it is a pain in the butt but it is an option. That would give you more time to find a place you really want.

Doug, I really like those roadrunners, kinda awkward looking but they can move PDQ.

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Posted by Brutus on Thursday, May 8, 2008 10:29 PM

Good news on the job, RT!  Prayers for your house, too.

Sounds like a cool trip, Doug - never did see a roadrunner when we were in Arizona on a trip, back in about 1980 I think?  I'm sure the family will be glad to have you back home though.

Okay guys, getting late so I'll head out in a few minutes.  Doug, turn on the beacon so I can find you.  TTFN

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