charlie hebdo Elderly casualty: Casualty
Elderly casualty: Casualty
Johnny
2024!!!!!
It is urgent to understand the future of severe acute respiratory syndrome–coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission. We used estimates of seasonality, immunity, and cross-immunity for betacoronaviruses OC43 and HKU1 from time series data from the USA to inform a model of SARS-CoV-2 transmission. We projected that recurrent wintertime outbreaks of SARS-CoV-2 will probably occur after the initial, most severe pandemic wave. Absent other interventions, a key metric for the success of social distancing is whether critical care capacities are exceeded. To avoid this, prolonged or intermittent social distancing may be necessary into 2022. Additional interventions, including expanded critical care capacity and an effective therapeutic, would improve the success of intermittent distancing and hasten the acquisition of herd immunity. Longitudinal serological studies are urgently needed to determine the extent and duration of immunity to SARS-CoV-2. Even in the event of apparent elimination, SARS-CoV-2 surveillance should be maintained since a resurgence in contagion could be possible as late as 2024.
Deggesty charlie hebdo Elderly casualty: Casualty This sounds like malicious mischief.
This sounds like malicious mischief.
The motive was unknown for damaging the two DC-3s on Cape Cod.
charlie hebdoIs this TOS the same as the updated forum rules?
No; that's Brian channelling Jeffrey Wimberley. People keep adding and deleting special 'rules' like the ban on discussing graffiti, hoboes, and moderation actions... usually for some ad hoc reason or personal preference.
The actual TOS -- and it varies by site -- is the one that used to be linked from the right-hand top menu, and is now almost impossible to actually navigate to (despite being invoked in the boilerplate in all the general Trains Magazine categories!) Much of this has gone unrevised while rules and wretched overmoderation have been changed over the years; it certainly isn't viewed as important, and we've seen action taken against people for 'violations' either not in the TOS or arbitrarily interpreted. At some point some CYA language regarding 'banned' users' rights to material they posted was introduced, which essentially reinforces that moderators can leave or remove any material they see fit to leave or remove, but can't edit (or selectively remove) any part of a particular post.
I don't think we'll necessarily see any improvement in the situation when the 'new' forum experience is finally rolled out, either, although I seriously think it should be (if the advertisers are to get their best value out of a well-regulated community of marks).
If so, there is nothing about the OP having any special privileges. But there are several rules about things like political topics and use of copyright material that much of Klepper's postings (and that of others) violates repeatedly. [/quote]
Convicted One Miningman https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1249715841618362369 Thanks, a bit of a shocker. I believe there could be some validity as to the toxic environment we maintain in our bodies likewise being toxic to the bugs that torment us. I have in years past assembled considerable anecdotal experience that suggests exactly that. Two day cures for even the nastiest flu that I ever had, as well as lesser bugs.
Miningman https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1249715841618362369
Thanks, a bit of a shocker.
I believe there could be some validity as to the toxic environment we maintain in our bodies likewise being toxic to the bugs that torment us.
I have in years past assembled considerable anecdotal experience that suggests exactly that. Two day cures for even the nastiest flu that I ever had, as well as lesser bugs.
It has been postulated that, while growing up in a filthy environment isn't something to be desired, growing up in an environment that's too clean isn't necessarily all that good either. It's been said the bodys immune system is like a muscle that needs to be excercised on a regular basis, no exercise, it atrophys, just as a muscle will.
Or so they say. I don't know.
I suppose there's historic evidence for this if not scientific evidence. It was noted by US Army doctors, up to and including the First World War, that young men who came from the cities were as a rule much heathier and less prone to disease than young men from rural communities. It was an easy one to figure out, men from the cities having come from areas of heavy population density had already caught and survived any communicable disease that was out there, the country boys not so much, since they came from areas without that same population density.
Probably a couple of punks with too much time on their hands.
God help 'em if any classic aircraft fans get their hands on 'em!
Flintlock76 It's been said the bodys immune system is like a muscle that needs to be excercised on a regular basis, no exercise, it atrophys, just as a muscle will.
Hypothetically, if it was discovered that some societal taboo actually killed the virus and restored the person to functional health in just a few days... do you think the authorities would alter policy to relax the prohibition of the taboo? I don't want to venture into the realm that might make the forum police believe I was trying to promote illicit activity, so just use your imagination.
Flintlock76It has been postulated that, while growing up in a filthy environment isn't something to be desired, growing up in an environment that's too clean isn't necessarily all that good either.
Those of you about my age will probably remember images back in the fifties of rows of kids with polio lying in iron lungs. There was a program, I think on PBS, that said polio had been around for a long time, but with horses, chickens and other livestock around most households, the virus was more prevalent, and children were exposed to it at an early age. The immune system could cope with it in infants and the very young, but this capability was lost later in life. With the automobile and other changes in lifestyle, exposure to the virus was less likely, and when it did occur later in life, the results were devastating. I thought it ironic that sanitation was a major contributor to the problem.
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Convicted One Flintlock76 It's been said the bodys immune system is like a muscle that needs to be excercised on a regular basis, no exercise, it atrophys, just as a muscle will. Hypothetically, if it was discovered that some societal taboo actually killed the virus and restored the person to functional health in just a few days... do you think the authorities would alter policy to relax the prohibition of the taboo?
Hypothetically, if it was discovered that some societal taboo actually killed the virus and restored the person to functional health in just a few days... do you think the authorities would alter policy to relax the prohibition of the taboo?
Flintlock76On a more positive note, I just looked at a chart put out by the CDC that indicates smokers are less susceptible to COVID-19 than non-smokers.
Can you please provide a link to that chart? This is counter-intuitive.
NKP guy Flintlock76 On a more positive note, I just looked at a chart put out by the CDC that indicates smokers are less susceptible to COVID-19 than non-smokers. Can you please provide a link to that chart? This is counter-intuitive.
Flintlock76 On a more positive note, I just looked at a chart put out by the CDC that indicates smokers are less susceptible to COVID-19 than non-smokers.
I know! It surprised the hell out of me too!
Anyway, here's the link, scroll down through it for the US stats.
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/1249715841618362369
Through the courtesy of Miningman, I don't do the Twitter.
Anyway, you know what we smokers say:
"I'm gonna die someday, I might as well have a say in it!"
And:
"Smoking takes ten years off your life? So what? They're the worst ten years of your life anyway!"
Everything I have been hearing is that covid-19 hits smokers harder as their lungs are in nominally worse shape than non-smokers. They 'may' not contract it as easily as non-smokers (I have see no data one way or the other) but having contracted it, it is supposedly deadlier to smokers than non-smokers.
The deadly effects of covid-19 affect the respiratory system.
Never too old to have a happy childhood!
Flintlock76 243129 David Klepper, are you an Israeli citizen? If not, why not become one and contribute to the cause you admire and espouse so fervently? Let's not have any of that. I'm the one who started this thread, if it gets nasty I'll have it shut down. Play nice people. On a more positive note, I just looked at a chart put out by the CDC that indicates smokers are less susceptible to COVID-19 than non-smokers. Light 'em up boys!
243129 David Klepper, are you an Israeli citizen? If not, why not become one and contribute to the cause you admire and espouse so fervently?
David Klepper, are you an Israeli citizen? If not, why not become one and contribute to the cause you admire and espouse so fervently?
Let's not have any of that. I'm the one who started this thread, if it gets nasty I'll have it shut down. Play nice people.
On a more positive note, I just looked at a chart put out by the CDC that indicates smokers are less susceptible to COVID-19 than non-smokers.
Light 'em up boys!
Any of what? I asked a valid question. If he is so enamored of Israel and Israelis why not become a citizen and help the religion of your ancestry. I will add however that a railroad-themed forum is not the venue for espousing the prodigiousness of ones 'adopted' country.
Quoting 243129 ". If he is so enamored of Israel and Israelis why not become a citizen and help the religion of your ancestry. " In previous posts, he has told us he is a citizen of Israel. Also, from what he has posted, he is an Orthodox Jew.
Why do you think he is not a citizen of Israel?
DeggestyIn previous posts, he has told us he is a citizen of Israel.
Where? On this thread?
243129 Deggesty In previous posts, he has told us he is a citizen of Israel. Where? On this thread?
Deggesty In previous posts, he has told us he is a citizen of Israel.
It doesn't matter.
An "expensive model collector"
Many people who move to Israel are able to have dual citizenship with the US and do so. Perhaps he did. It's legal.
NKP guy This is counter-intuitive.
Well, if you have a nice tarry pair of lungs, perhaps it's hard for the virus to get a foothold in such a hostile environment.
Just as the non-smokers who pitch such a fit over the blue clouds near building entrances.
"Completely unsurvivable" to hear them tell their story.
1. Yes, I am a dual citizen, and 2. I am concerned about both countries' welfare, and 3. I am a USA Army Veteran, and 4. moved from Reform to Orthodox in 1970, age 38. Am now 88. Also a vegeetarian. Reasons? Not on this website. Contact daveklepper@yahoo.com
Subject: MTA Announces Partnership With Northwell Health-GoHealthUrgent Care to Provide COVID-19 Testing for Heroic MTA WorkersPress ReleaseApril 15, 2020MTA Announces Partnership With Northwell Health-GoHealth Urgent Careto Provide COVID-19 Testing for Heroic MTA WorkersNation’s Largest Transportation Agency Teams Up With State’s LargestHealthcare Provider in Latest Move to Protect Front Line MTA WorkersThe Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) today announced thatit has joined forces with Northwell Health-GoHealth Urgent Care toprovide prioritized COVID-19 testing to symptomatic frontline MTAworkers at its urgent care facilities throughout the New Yorkmetropolitan region. The new partnership with the state’s largesthealthcare provider marks the latest in a series of aggressive healthand safety measures taken by the MTA to protect its vital frontlineworkforce and limit the spread of the COVID-19 at no cost to MTAemployees.Under the new partnership, Northwell Health-GoHealth Urgent Care willprovide priority testing to symptomatic transportation workers a rateof up to 50 tests per day or 350 per week. The partnership between theMTA and Northwell Health-GoHealth Urgent Care is similar to thepartnership the organization has with the NYPD and FDNY. The agreementexpands the range of options available to MTA employees, who are stillable to go to their primary care physician or other medical providerat no cost to the employee.“We remain relentlessly committed to doing everything we possibly canto keep our frontline workers safe,” said MTA Chairman and CEO PatrickJ. Foye. “We will continue working to identify any and all solutionswe can deploy to help protect our employees. The region simply cannotfunction without the essential and heroic workers of this pandemic.”“As the largest employer of healthcare workers in the state, weunderstand how vital it is to have a functioning mass transit systemduring this time of unprecedented challenges,” said Northwell HealthPresident and CEO Michael J. Dowling. “Untold numbers of our ownemployees depend on mass transit to get to work each day. Ourrelationship with the MTA is a mutually essential one and we lookforward to partnering together in the days and weeks to come to makesure that MTA workers can get tested at our more than 50 urgent carelocations around the region.”Northwell Health-GoHealth Urgent Care centers throughout the city,Long Island and Westchester County began testing vital firstresponders from city agencies this week. Northwell Health-GoHealthwill be reaching out to MTA workers who have identified themselves assymptomatic to the MTA COVID-19 hotline and arranging appointments fora range of comprehensive medical exams and diagnostic tests, includingtesting for COVID-19 beginning Friday, April 17.Northwell Health-GoHealth Urgent Care locations are located at 52locations throughout the region and are open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. onweekdays and 9 a.m.-5 p.m. on weekends. For more information, visithttp://Gohealthuc.com/nyc <http://gohealthuc.com/nyc>.
The MTA has been a national leader among transportation agencies intaking aggressive action to battle the COVID-19 pandemic since theearly days of its arrival in New York. The organization hasdistributed millions of pieces of personal protective equipment,including 2.7 million pairs of gloves and nearly 750,000 masks, sinceMarch 1 <https://gcc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__www.mta.info_press-2Drelease_mta-2Dheadquarters_mta-2Dcontinues-2Ddistribute-2Dn95-2Dmasks-2Dand-2Dother-2Dppe-2Dheroic-2Dworkforce%26d%3DDwMF-g%26c%3Dvq5m7Kktb9l80A_wDJ5D-g%26r%3D2OO_YK3HShjWBHpwgOUKedaS_yDNJJh5Z1cSZhBHibU%26m%3DHJTRS0Ly3wmb8aLyg9Rs_ffri7vb25VYv5cDC4wi-RQ%26s%3DBeSGZ1btyvYWsadTDFBQNTmr73LPGm660eOI8b-gpt4%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Ctminton%40mtahq.org%7Ceb0dab4bde45423beb9208d7e132b200%7C79c07380cc9841bd806b0ae925588f66%7C0%7C0%7C637225480167066941&sdata=JRCMhM%2F%2Fr1ks5sMJ1XMLVvat5XWJENbT88jXTK6T3E0%3D&reserved=0>.In order to protect employees, the MTA also disregarded federalguidance and began handing out masks to all employees before theCenters for Disease Control and Prevention later issued new guidancerecommending all Americans wear masks. The MTA continues itscomprehensive disinfecting efforts systemwide with trains and busesbeing disinfected nightly, with the entire fleets for all agencies –more than 8,000 train cars and 5,000 buses – completed every 72 hoursor less, since March 2
The MTA has also implemented rear-door boarding and eliminated cashtransactions to prevent person-to-person contact to ensure the of operating employees. The MTA launched the nation-leading“Temperature Brigade” on March 24 and later expanded the force to 22locations testing tens of thousands of employees across New York CityTransit, Metro-North and Long Island Rail Road. The MTA is alsoworking to install plexiglass barriers at work locations across all 28bus depots to further protect employees. The health and safety of theMTA’s employees and customers continues to be the agency’s toppriority.
The following is edited for brevity. The URL is:
https://www.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israel-under-lockdown
The Israeli Government will convene a special hearing on Thursday at 3 p.m. to discuss the country’s exit strategy, a plan to gradually remove the restrictions that have been placed on the public to help stop the spread of the novel coronavirus.
I see where the daily death toll in the USA due to the virus was 2,405 on Tuesday. The highest single daily toll yet.
I can't imagine what these people who are trying to rush the reopening of te country can even be thinking.
Does any reader have access to the USA Recovered number?
Note now deaths in Israel are avout 5% of the recovered. Were 10%.
Convicted One-- They think that the 'peak' is now and it's down hill from here. Listening to them is quite dizzying. I really don't think they know nearly as much as they would like. People are getting antsy, Governors are getting totalitarian like in Michigan. A Michigan resident cannot go to their cottages up North, but out of state residents can. You can use a canoe but not a motorboat! It goes on and on and where does it end.
If we wait to open our countries until the last case there will be no country left to open up to.
On a further note I am inspired by a certain poster and will henceforth and forthwith post the twice daily 3 page report from the Government of Saskatchewan, covering all seven sub areas. That'll be a dozzie!
Also the research results from the Univ. of Saskatoon, Univ. of Regina and the Innovation Centre.
Might as well throw in the latest on Quadrotriticale and other wheat research. ... because we all want to know right?
Should I include all the rest of Canada? I think I should.
No body every talks about Finland... think I'll throw in Finland.
Convicted One I see where the daily death toll in the USA due to the virus was 2,405 on Tuesday. The highest single daily toll yet. I can't imagine what these people who are trying to rush the reopening of te country can even be thinking.
They're thinking about the economy. And it does bear thinking about.
The problem is no-one can say with any certainty just when the pandemic will be truly over and done with. While I have the greatest respect for the medical professionals it seems that concerning COVID-19 where you have five of them together you get six opinions. Speaking rhetorically, of course. Are they all right, are they all wrong, are some right and some wrong? Who knows? Do they know? Personally, I'm hoping the medical professionals my sister works with are correct in assuming that COVID-19, as bad as it is, will behave the same as any of the flu viruses they've had to deal with in the past and abate with the longer days, increased sunlight and its UV component, which have knocked down flu strains pretty reliably in the past.
Now this is when those we've elected to govern us have to step up to the plate and make decisions none of them ever expected to make. Do we wait two months, four months, six months, a year, until we're absolutely sure? How much can the economies of all fifty states stand a lockdown and slowdown of commerce until the whole economy collapses? And it's not just us, it's the rest of the effected world as well.
Sooner or later the hard, teeth-clenching decision's going to have to be made to assume the risk and get the economy moving again. It won't be an easy one, I understand that, but it's going to have to be made.
Welcome to the real world of high command.
For years I have quite honestly been in disbelief with the way western culture has come to exaggerate the value of human life. Just think of the standard narrative for a typical wrongful death lawsuit for an example of what I am saying. The recriminations of the plaintiff and the cost inflicted by their "wanton disregard" etc etc etc.
But now, we are seeing a quantum shift where the worshipers of the high church of Capitalism are now trying to convince us that their priorities merit a "plan B" where certain segments of society be regarded as "expendable" towards some greater common good?
Really?
I saw a claim by a local reporter the other day that Covid 19 deaths thus far in Indiana are already twice the total amount of flu related deaths the state typically records during an entire 7 month flu season.
And that is with the shelter in place requirement in effect...imagine where we'd be without restriction?
Convicted OneI saw a claim by a local reporter the other day that COVID-19 deaths thus far in Indiana are already twice the total amount of flu related deaths the state typically records during an entire 7-month flu season.
This being the phrase that is likely operative here. I'd want to see substantiation of both statistics indicated before even beginning to assess if this is 'factual' or not.
Convicted OneI can't imagine what these people who are trying to rush the reopening of te country can even be thinking.
People in Michigan feel that it is unnecessary to lock down the entire state just because Detroit has exploded with the virus. They draw that conclusion because after watching the virus tear through Detroit, they see that the spread seems to be stalling out when it gets into areas of lower population density everywhere outside of Detroit. So they want the Governor to keep Detroit locked down if she feels it is necessary, but let the rest of the State get back to making a living. I have a feeling that the Governor would never consider such a proposal. I believe she would think it unfair to Detroit.
OvermodThis being the phrase that is likely operative here. I'd want to see substantiation of both statistics indicated before even beginning to assess if this is 'factual' or not.
Our local newspaper appears to be at war with non-paying online users, stuff appears and vanishes on a whim, I guess trying to get us to pay up. I was unable to locate the source I saw a couple days ago. But it was just a blanket statement accompanying a scoreboard type tally of then current numbers, so even at best I doubt it would have satisfied you.
I did find the following, which if one accepts the data reported,... appears to support that claim
From an Indianapolis TV station second graph down depicts average flu deaths last 4 years
From the Indiana dept of heath reflecting current conditions with 436 cov19 deaths statewide
I am aware that there is a broad opportunity to dismiss the numbers if one is so inclined..."small sample size" "no access to raw data" etc etc yada yada, but that's the best I can do.
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