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Posted by 54light15 on Friday, April 17, 2020 7:44 PM

Wayne- Here in Canada we get a lot of new from over 'ome and Captain Tom has been noteworthy for a couple of days. A lot of my friends are Brit ex-pats and there's been a bit of discussion about him on Zoom lately. But, what a guy! And that Tribble video-that was brilliant! Not taking anything away from Patrick Stewart, but I sure miss the original Star Trek. 

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Posted by Miningman on Friday, April 17, 2020 8:19 PM

Fun Tribble video. Back when the Klingons looked like a biker gang that rode Hondas and Yamaha's. 

Years later Worf when asked tried to explain that a certain group of Klingons looked like us ..all he said was " Yes, its true ...it's something we would rather not talk about"

One of the more famous and widely known and beloved episodes.

Spock states " Quadrotriticale is a wheat developed in Saskatchewan, Canada in the 20th Century" to which Checkov blurts out " NO! Everyone knows it's a Russian in-wention" 

My favourite orginal Star Trek episode was 'City on the Edge of Forever' introducing a very young Joan Collins and written by Harlan Ellison.

At the end Kirk says " let's get the hell out of here". 

Pretty cheeky for the 60's primetime. 

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Friday, April 17, 2020 9:13 PM

Glad you enjoyed the classic "Trek" boys!

I'll tell you, I enjoyed the "Next Generation" shows with Patrick Stewart (I'd have killed  to have had a command presence like he did!) but I never had the urge to watch them over and over again like I did (and do) the original series.  The first series was magic, there's no other way to put it.

I definately preferred the origina Klingons with their "Biker gang, Mongols in space"  look.   Mind you, any self-respecting biker gang rides Harleys!  No rice-burners!  

I concur, "City On The Edge Of Forever" was the best episode.  Second best?  In my opinion "Balance Of Terror," with Mark Lenard as the Romulan captain.  

"Let's get the hell out of here."  Came out of nowhere and hit like a hammer!  Brilliant!  

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, April 18, 2020 2:10 AM

If only the Romulans could fire weapons when they were cloaked eh!

Then the show would be called 'Romula'.

Like in the Westerns and Cop shows and all that... the bad guys have terrible aim and still do. 

 

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Posted by York1 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:41 AM

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I concur, "City On The Edge Of Forever" was the best episode.  Second best?  In my opinion "Balance Of Terror," with Mark Lenard as the Romulan captain.  

 

That's interesting.  I've always reversed those as my two favorite episodes, with "Balance" on top.

In the mid 1970s, before I was married, I attended Star Trek conventions in New Orleans.  They showed full-length movie film episodes of TOS on the big screen.  Everyone was amazed at the details that we had never seen on the small TV sets of the time.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:53 AM

York, you reminded me of some other "Star Trek" trivia.

Leonard Nimoy's makeup as Mr. Spock was supposed to have a slight yellowish-greenish cast to it, considering Mr. Spock had green blood, but with the color TV technology of the time you didn't see it.  If you watch the old episodes now with the current Hi-Def color it is noticeable.

Same with the "command" branch shirts that Captain Kirk and Mr. Sulu wore.  Those were a pale green in color, but in a color freak-out they came across as a gold color.  Now you can see the pale green.  

And you are right, the attention to detail in the first-year of the series was incredible.  Every penny spent showed on the screen.

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Posted by 54light15 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:13 AM

You know what makes the original Star Trek so good? It was the interplay between the characters and not a lot of reliance on special effects. You could care about these people. I loved how Spock used to irritate McCoy -"I hope you're not going to say it's fascinating, Spock!"  "Uhh, well it is interesting." I love "City on the Edge of Forever" - it really had something to say. I have a book by Harlan Ellison all about making that one show with the original script. Fascinating stuff.

But my favourite episode is where they land on a planet that's like 1920s Chicago. Scotty says to the gangster, "He was wearing concrete galoshes."  The gangster says, "You mean cee-ment overshoes?" Scotty looks befuddled and says, "Aye." 

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Posted by York1 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 11:35 AM

Whenever I watch "City on the Edge of Forever", I love watching Edith Keeler and Kirk walk past Floyd's Barbershop from the Andy Griffith show.  You can also see the Mayberry court house in that Trek episode.

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:19 PM

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Whenever I watch "City on the Edge of Forever", I love watching Edith Keeler and Kirk walk past Floyd's Barbershop from the Andy Griffith show.  You can also see the Mayberry court house in that Trek episode.

 

Like this?:

 StarTrek set in Mayberry

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:03 PM

Edited good newes frem the www.jpost.com

The number of coronavirus cases in Israel showed additional signs of beginning to level on Friday morning. The Health Ministry confirmed on Saturday evening that 13,265 people have been diagnosed with the virus.
So far, 159 people have died of SARS-CoV-2 in Israel and 3,247 have recovered.
Of the country’s 164 serious patients, 113 are on ventilators – an 8.6% drop from the day before, in line with the flattening of the curve. The number of patients in serious condition dropped by 8.3%.   The number of active cases rose from 9,764 on Wednesday morning to 9,827 on Thursday morning, it then decreased to 9,803 on Thursday evening and to 9,740 on Friday morning. The number of new cases per day also dropped on Wednesday with 455 new cases compared to 460 on Tuesday and then dropped n Thursday to 257.
The Health Ministry tested 11,908 people for the novel coronavirus on Thursday - the most in any one day so far. On Friday, 9,950 were tested.  As of Friday morning, 97 new cases had been confirmed, but that number will by the evrening. 
Israeli leaders agreed on opening the economy by Sunday, accepting the principals for an exit strategy by the National Security Council given the4 Prime M inister on Thursday. The government will gradually open a limited number of businesses, which will be subject to the rules and restrictions that the Health and Finance ministries will determine by Saturday night, and will permit exercise and sports up to 500 meters from home and re-opening small-scale special education programs. 
Jerusalem continues to have the highest number of cases in Israel at 2,524, with 276 out of every 100,000 residents infected with the virus. The Health Ministry has also conducted the most tests in the capital: 24,769 so far.  The second highest number of cases (2,258) is in Bnei Brak, where 10,719 people have been tested and 1,156 out of every 100,000 are infected – more than four times as many per capita as Jerusalem. In terms of per-capita infections disregarding recoveries and deaths, Bnei Brak is leading, while Jerusalem is 15th on the list. All other Israeli cities have less than 1,000 cases.
 
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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:12 PM

Miningman, sorry for the confusion.  My complaint agout Canadian statistics was not the date but the lack of recovered statistics. and I would thoroughly enjoy the "other" Finnish URL if posted in Classic Trains or Steam and Preservation here.  But I am looking for notices of cured and for likely short-time-framework research success stories.  Thanks in any case.

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:14 PM

How come Yeoman Rand never discovered me! ? 

 

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:32 PM

"The Deadly Years" perhaps has some relevance to what we are  currently  experiencing?

 

I thought "The Changling", "The Doomsday Machine",  "A Piece of the Action", and "Patterns of Force" were the best ST episodes.

I also enjoyed  "Assignment Earth", particularly the part played by Robert Lansing

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:17 PM

"Patterns of Force" was a good episode, but I thought they went a little overboard with the props. By that I mean German guns, German cars, and German army and SS and SA uniforms which made use of German traditional symbols and iconography that would have meant nothing to an alien society.

They should have stopped at the swastika and had everyone in non-descript khakis.  But that's just nit-picking on my part, it was a well-done episode nonetheless, and I did enjoy it.

"Doomsday Machine" was great!  I saw an up-dated version recently with CGI special effects, and it was jaw-dropping!  My God, how that series holds up 50 years after it went off the air! 

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:40 PM

Part of that might key in to what I was saying earlier about Hollywood cooking to a certain recipe?

We've been well programmed to recognize all of that iconography as symbolic of oppression.

Perhaps they were worried that anything less might be akin to Joe Stalin without the mustache

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:45 PM

Speaking of iconography, there was an episode that entailed parallel universes where Kirk is transposed with his evil twin from the other universe,...which I did not care for the episode as a child watching it. However just these past few years I've come to enjoy it...I guess ones perspective changes over time.

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, April 18, 2020 4:54 PM

Yes! Good episode. The evil Spock...I liked him better than the Spock -Spock . After that Spock looked kinda wimpy to me. Milquetoast.

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Posted by Miningman on Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:04 PM

Sask. COVID-19 update - April 18

There are currently five people in hospital in Saskatchewan, including one in intensive care.

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, April 18, 2020 5:49 PM

Off the beaten path here,...but isn't it possible that the virus could just evolve or mutate into a less harmful form, losing it's lethality in the process?

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Posted by Erik_Mag on Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:55 PM

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Off the beaten path here,...but isn't it possible that the virus could just evolve or mutate into a less harmful form, losing it's lethality in the process?

 

There's an evolutionary pressure to do exactly that as less sick people are more likely to pass it along.

I also wonder if the strain most common in the western US is less harmful than the one causing havoc in the NYC area.

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Posted by Electroliner 1935 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:05 PM

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Edited good newes frem the www.jpost.com

The number of coronavirus cases in Israel showed additional signs of beginning to level on Friday morning. The Health Ministry confirmed on Saturday evening that 13,265 people have been diagnosed with the virus.

So far, 159 people have died of SARS-CoV-2 in Israel and 3,247 have recovered.
Of the country’s 164 serious patients, 113 are on ventilators – an 8.6% drop from the day before, in line with the flattening of the curve. The number of patients in serious condition dropped by 8.3%.   The number of active cases rose from 9,764 on Wednesday morning to 9,827 on Thursday morning, it then decreased to 9,803 on Thursday evening and to 9,740 on Friday morning. The number of new cases per day also dropped on Wednesday with 455 new cases compared to 460 on Tuesday and then dropped n Thursday to 257.
The Health Ministry tested 11,908 people for the novel coronavirus on Thursday - the most in any one day so far. On Friday, 9,950 were tested.  As of Friday morning, 97 new cases had been confirmed, but that number will by the evrening. 
Israeli leaders agreed on opening the economy by Sunday, accepting the principals for an exit strategy by the National Security Council given the4 Prime M inister on Thursday. The government will gradually open a limited number of businesses, which will be subject to the rules and restrictions that the Health and Finance ministries will determine by Saturday night, and will permit exercise and sports up to 500 meters from home and re-opening small-scale special education programs. 
Jerusalem continues to have the highest number of cases in Israel at 2,524, with 276 out of every 100,000 residents infected with the virus. The Health Ministry has also conducted the most tests in the capital: 24,769 so far.  The second highest number of cases (2,258) is in Bnei Brak, where 10,719 people have been tested and 1,156 out of every 100,000 are infected – more than four times as many per capita as Jerusalem. In terms of per-capita infections disregarding recoveries and deaths, Bnei Brak is leading, while Jerusalem is 15th on the list. All other Israeli cities have less than 1,000 cases.

 
Thanks Dave.
Now that is the type of data that I wish we had here in Illinois and the other states. A meaningful set of indications that there is a reduction in new cases and a true flattening of the "curve." So far, the amount of testing is like a dribble compared to the number needed. And since people can be asymtomatic while being infectus, one doesn't know where the bullet is coming from. Does the postman have it and not know it? Or does your neighbor have it and not know it? Beware. Without meaningful and significant amount of testing, we don't know and now we have people clamoring for their "RIGHTS" and to OPEN THE ECONOMY. Forget about all those who have died, we want to go out and party on the beach. These are times of stress.
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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:07 PM

Miningman

Sask. COVID-19 update - April 18

There are currently five people in hospital in Saskatchewan, including one in intensive care.

 

Make sure you're not one of them Vince!  

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:09 PM

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Off the beaten path here,...but isn't it possible that the virus could just evolve or mutate into a less harmful form, losing it's lethality in the process?

 

A distinct possibility.  I believe viruses have been known to do just that.

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Posted by Flintlock76 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:12 PM

Convicted One

Speaking of iconography, there was an episode that entailed parallel universes where Kirk is transposed with his evil twin from the other universe,...which I did not care for the episode as a child watching it. However just these past few years I've come to enjoy it...I guess ones perspective changes over time.

 

It was called "Mirror, Mirror," and it was a good one!  Great "What if?" as in...

"What if the 'Enterprise' crew were just like Klingons?" 

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:27 PM

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A distinct possibility.  I believe viruses have been known to do just that.

As overmod has pointed out a few times, much of the lethality has come as a result of people's immune system over reacting to the infection. A "good" parasite does not want to kill it's host.

So, it would seem there to be worthwhile benefit for the virus to cure this defect in it's relationship with it's host.

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Posted by samfp1943 on Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:08 PM

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Flintlock76

As overmod has pointed out a few times, much of the lethality has come as a result of people's immune system over reacting to the infection. A "good" parasite does not want to kill it's host.

So, it would seem there to be worthwhile benefit for the virus to cure this defect in it's relationship with it's host.

 

  
   I would make a 'disclaimer'<I know this is vering somewhat off topic, but it might be helpful info to some here> I am not in any way a medical person! 
   My only interest in 'following' available information on the COVID-19 virus is;     I fall into several catagories of 'underlaying conditions'. So I do pay attention to available information.
 
 I have a friend down the Hot-Lanta area, who shares some of the same of my medical conditions;     A trip to his provider, got him  an explanation of what may be a part  of the reason the virus can run rampant in folks with underlaying conditions.   His provider warned him to watch his blood sugar levels; apparently, his provider suggested that the virus might feed off of those higher blood sugar levels, in the host body.
   A patient with a high blood sugar level, could possibly, 'feed' the virus, and cause it to infect, and amplify the virus in the body of the host patient. Creating a condition that would cause an increase in the leathality of the viral infection; causing damage organs of the host.  
   
  Blood sugar, in diabetics, is checked by most patients on a daily basis, higher levels are  watched by most patients, and they work to correct that level.  
 I have not heard any of the 'experts'ion much more than diabetes is one of the underlaying conditions  that can be problematic in Covid-19 patients.  Just wanted to pass this aqlong, hopefully, it might help someone here.
 
 

 

 


 

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:40 AM

Sunday morning, I am only posting the specific informatin that modifies the just-previous posteing:

As of Saturday evening, 13,265 people have been diagnosed with the novel coronavirus in Israel, according to the Health Ministry, showing signs that the spread is beginning to level out. So far, 165 people have died of SARS-CoV-2 and 3,456 have recovered.

Of the country’s 164 serious patients, 113 are on ventilators, a number which marked a 7.4% drop from the previous day. Moreover, the number of patients in serious condition similarly dropped by 2.4% from the day before, which had already seen an 8.6% drop from Thursday

Prayer quorums in open spaces may also resume in groups of 19 people, as long as participants maintain a distance of two meters apart.  In addition, up to 10 people can now attend circumcision ceremonies and weddings as long as guests maintain a distance of two meters from one another. Men can go to the mikveh as long as at any given time there are no more than three people on premise.
 
Special education will also start to operate again in groups of up to three children, and three families can hire a caretaker for their children in order to go to work.
The government will now allow zoos, safaris and national parks to operate, too, for the purpose of holding an activity in an open place intended for a person with a disability and in accordance with the guidelines of the Health Ministry.
 
Distilled from the report:  Wearing masks in public spaces is commanded, with fines and jail as possible for nnn-compliance.
 
In order to facilitate the increased public activity, public transportation will be boosted accordingly.

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, April 19, 2020 12:52 AM

Miningman, can you get them tob publish recovered statistics?

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Posted by Miningman on Sunday, April 19, 2020 1:19 AM

The Saskatchewan Government states 234 recoveries .

 

Miningman

Sask. COVID-19 update - April 18

There are currently five people in hospital in Saskatchewan, including one in intensive care.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, April 19, 2020 2:58 AM

Thanks!  Cannot figiure out why I missed it earlier.  And on the top line, where it should be, too.  And the less than 2% ratio of deaths to recovered is even better than Israels!  I  wonder if Nebraska's is available.

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