Beautiful diagram/modelboard. I gather track at Nevins and Lenox is to be extended, and currently these two stations are not in service, since I see no reversing crossover in either. Also, I assume the lead to the four Coney Island stub tracks has a slip switch not shown where it crosses the right-bound main track. So current operations are between 242 or Coney Island and the South Ferry Loop, with the option of running express. bypassing the three staions between Smith-9th and Prospect Park, or local stopping at all stations. No trains currently stop at 8th St, or use the 42nd St. local tracks.
Would you also consider the other questions?
daveklepper Beautiful diagram/modelboard. I gather track at Nevins and Lenox is to be extended, and currently these two stations are not in service, since I see no reversing crossover in either. Also, I assume the lead to the four Coney Island stub tracks has a slip switch not shown where it crosses the right-bound main track. So current operations are between 242 or Coney Island and the South Ferry Loop, with the option of running express. bypassing the three staions between Smith-9th and Prospect Park, or local stopping at all stations. No trains currently stop at 8th St, or use the 42nd St. local tracks. Would you also consider the other questions?
BUT: This is a model, not the actual railroad. So you are representing just part of a larger system. No need for crossovers at Lenox and Nevins. When a 2 or 3 dissapears off the model board at Nevins, theoretically bound for New Lots or Flatbush Aven., another 2 or 3 simultenously appears at Lenox theoretically from Lenox Terminal or White Plains Rd. And visa versa. So 2's and 3's in each direction can provide an unatttended continuous parade, while you play with the 1 line with some cutbacks at Coney Island and some through to 242.
daveklepperWhen a 2 or 3 dissapears off the model board at Nevins, theoretically bound for New Lots or Flatbush Aven., another 2 or 3 simultenously appears at Lenox theoretically from Lenox Terminal or White Plains Rd.
Correct. The Express trains are running on closed loops, there are no need for switches or reverse moves. They are physically on two separate levels of a two track helix, they loop from Nevins Street to Lenox Avenue via THE SECRET TUNNEL. It is tucked inside and below the Smith 9th Street station, so if you were to put a railfan cam on the train you would find yourself flying across the Brooklyn skyline. LION will ham it up with flashing IR lights, day glow monsters, and celestial effects none of which will be seen except by the Rail Fan Camera.
At the moment there is only one train on each of these express tracks. Some day there might be two on each track, but I have what I have.
Yes, there is MOW equipment including the Signal Dolly, the Money Train, the Revenue Train, The Super Sucker (Track Vac), and a simple work train.
If I remember your other questions aright, my LEAST FAVORITE color scheme while riding the trains in the '70s, was the blue stripe on silver. Now it is my favorite and looks great on the layout. Life-Like did a great job with that one.
ROAR
The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.
Here there be cats. LIONS with CAMERAS
I think that is the new inspection and light repair and maintenance facility at Corona Yard near Willets Point Station on the 7, with the LIRR Port Washington line on the right.
Are you going to install the four switches to provide service to your 8th Street station?
Lion,
Thanks for the map, I understand your layout much better now!
Also, thanks for your service, happy Veterans Day!
I also think that is the Corona Yard facility, completed 2006?
YES, HAPPY VETERANS DAY TO ALL FELLOW VETERANS AND FAMILIES AND FRIENDS
WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE JUST ABOUT EVERYONE
daveklepperAre you going to install the four switches to provide service to your 8th Street station?
Nope. The local tracks at 8th Street and 42nd street are not connected to any thing. They are just there to complete the model of the station.
The BMT at 8th Street has many mosaic roundels that I have photographed in anticipation of building this station.
I think it is most unfair of you not to provide good service for the imaginary people at 8th Street! Very discriminatory!
The previous photo might have been taken from a northbound F train on the ramp to the Church Avenue subway before the structure for the 9th Avenue shuttle was removed but after the track was removed, or from the J's ramp to the Archer Avenue subway before the northen part of the Jamaica Avenue el structure was removed. Problem with both these is that the structure looks too new and too heavy. So my guess is that it was taken from a Fulton Street el train headed to Est NY and the Rockaway Avenue free transfer to the A, of the structure leading to the new Grant Avenuue station that the A will use access the Liberty Avenue structure after the track kis installed. The train would consist of one or two C units and the next stop would be the old Grant Avenue station.
It is on the IRT in the Bronx, and that is why I took these pictures: This inactive structure is in better repair than the structure that the train runs on. You are looking at the old NYW&B tracks at the East 180th Street Station (AKA the Dyre Avenue Line.) This is the portion that NYCT did not use and it ends just a few feet beyond this picture. The tracks in the original station, a real land mark of a station, are intact, but are only used by MOW equipment. It was indeed built to heavy rail standards rather than to subway standards.
Here is the NYW&B Station:
For a long time after the Dyar Avenue Line was operated with thru serive, the structure was still used with one track connection to the NEC in place and used on occasion for IRT new car delivery. I think the track was removed after the ramp was installed in the IND concourse yard leading to the Jerome Avenue elevated, which is the current track connection between the A and B divisions (for practical track connection purposes, as well as car overhaul, 7 is in the B division.) and all new car deliveries are via 39th Street and South Brooklyn tracks. After the 2nd Avenue El over the Queensboro Bridge was removed, the only track connection between the A and B divisions was via the LIRR Bay Ridge Branch, New York Connecting, and New Haven and that structure. I think the switch and single track were in when I had my 1970's GG1 New Haven - Penn Station cab ride.
Again, we are back on the Brighton Line, again looking south, but possibly the stretch between Beverly and Courtelyou, at the overpass at the Beverley Road Station, although possibly Courtelyou.
No, I don't think it is the Sea Beach Line. The Express tracks with new 3rd rail plastic shields, are in too good condition for it to be the Sea Beach. But I have not been there for a long time.
21st st. on the g in LI City after sandy
You were good for a while, but that is BEFORE Sandy.
Amazed that they let the station become so decrepit. I had not been there since the GG morphed into the G,when the GG was still running through to Continental Avenue, Forest Hills, and I am amazed at the poor condition of the station. Hope remedial work is in progress.
According to the folks over at SubChat, water from a mineral spring had been getting in at that point, and there was no point in fixing it until that part of the issue was fixed. That pic is several years old, and I am told that remediation has occurred, but that has yet to be seen.
NB: On SubChat a 20px LION has been added to the above photo, in case you want to find him.
What we have here is another "LION in HIDING"
I think he is on the black box in front of the signal. That was hard! He looks almost like one of those cottonwood things that blow off the trees.
Correct. Him is on that latch thing on the back of the key-by switch box.
Looks to me like the junction for the yard leads off the Pelham Bay Line to Westchester Yard. But it
could be the similar junction at Willes Pt. Blvd.
I want to recommend a book, although you may have bought it already. The book is
Subway Style, 100 Years of Architecture and Design in the New York City Subway
You will find detailed descriptions of grilles, turnstyles, benches, kiosks. all manor of signs. just about everything. The pictures are excellent, and it is also a good read. It is published by and available from the Transit Museum. I don't know the price, because I got it from a friend as a gift (a friend who was a tower operator at times for both the AT&SF and the SP in California, and then went into audio.)
LION has not the book. Maybe the zookeeper will give him one for Christmas.
Photo is at White Plains Road.
LION is hiding on the key-by box.
Thought of that after leaving the computer. If you don't get the book for Xmas,by all means look for it the next time you visit the Museum, which should be the next time you visit NY. I have a pix of the same location withoiut telephoto lens, but normal perspective, and with the Low-V Nostalgia train. Glad to share with anyone contacting me at daveklepper@yahoo.com.
Here be the stairway to the 242nd Street Station on Broadway.
The LION is in hiding!
Middle right, on top of second square from bottom. Isn't this Van Courtland Park-242nd St? Terminus of the 1 in the Bronx? Seems like 242nd St. needs some paint!
You are correct, and the 1, 2, 3, Yonkers trolleys used to load dowstairs in the middle of the street. And the C streetcar ran through.
The No. 4 train is southbound on the old NYW&B Dyar Ave RofW, and the two tracks in the cut is probably the Franklin Avenue shuttle looking north from the portal north of Prospect Park Station.
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