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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 6:49 AM

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 7:09 AM

Not an HO-gauge Lion but an N-gauge Lion about the size of a paw.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:18 AM

YIKES! Plenty of places for a LION to hide (or get hurt) on a machine like that. I sure hope he is careful.

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Posted by NorthWest on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:57 PM

On the farther cab, find the white air conditioner. Lion is sitting just to the left of the left fan.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 12, 2013 3:22 AM

Could be Westchester or White Plains Rd. yard, with inspection building new since my last visit.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, December 12, 2013 7:03 AM

Could also be the Corona Yard.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:38 AM

If you say you took the pix at Corona, I will have to believe you.   But you had posted a pix of Corona with its new inspection barn having a four-track lead and identified as such by the LIRR Port Washington Line adjacent to the yard.   So if it is Corona, they have more than one new structure since I was there.  Can you check on this?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:21 PM

White Plains Rd.  (Av.) pix from south end of northbound 238th st. Sta.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, December 12, 2013 8:10 PM
Looks like it was taken from the walkway to Citifield. I think the to the left of the shop building is the tennis centre. I still think the Mets play at Shea and tennis at Forest Hills.
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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:24 PM

You may be correct.   The walkway was also built after my last visit.  But why would a ballast tamper be at Corona?  Ah, yes, the concrete viaduct along and above Roosevelt south of Broadway has ballested track, not convenetional elevated construction.   I thought it was at WPR for Dyar Avenue and forgot about the concrete viaduct.  Which is an unusual and relatively beautiful example of transit architecture.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, December 13, 2013 10:01 AM

This one cannot be too difficult...

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Posted by NorthWest on Friday, December 13, 2013 7:59 PM

42nd Street, on the column in front of the one with the readable sign, where it meets the beam.

Dave, how is the snow?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, December 14, 2013 6:46 AM

LION went to Brooklyn

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:44 AM

F and G over the Gowanus?

Snow?    Because of the extreme cold,  took a cab to the Yeshiva Thursday morning.    Thursday afternoon, with the snow heavy, Jer. Post's website said buses had been curtailed although the light rail website said they were running with delays, but LRT doesn't do my commute much good.  The effort to fix up the duplicating room for a night's stay, as I do for Shabbats and holidays, seemed like too much effort, so I assembled a bed of eight chairs in the library, with the effective heat on.  Sporadic, because we are served by the same Arab-run Jerusalem Electric Company that serves most of the West Bank (Judia and Samaria to us Zionists), and we have the same problems as most of the people living under Abbas's rule wih regard to electricity.  Nobody had checked the fuel level for the emergency generator!   Spent all Friday snowed-in at the Yeshiva, warm because someone braved the storm and got the fuel needed, switching back and forth with commercial power.  Plenty of food and water available.  Sabbath evening had normal feast, night in the duplicating room in my comfortable folding bed with plenty of heat, normal Sabbath and a second night in the duplicating  room, all with no change of clothes.  Clearing up now, sun up, buses starting to run again, expect to be able to take a normal bus ride home after dinner this evening.   One of the kids said:  "Hey David, looks like you're stuck with us."   I said, "I consider myself lucky."   ("Yesh lee Mazal.")  Buses and light rail were not running Sunday morning, today, but gradually came on line by Noon.

The 42nd Street photo is at the north end of the uptown platform looking north on the Broadway  BMT line at Times Square.   Note the the rails start turning slightly to the right, not to the left as in a normal express station, just leaving the station.  That is because this station is at the point where the line curves from Broaway onto 7th Avenue.  Track used by northbound R trains..

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:12 AM

Pictures of snow in Jerusalem made it onto Subchat. Not much snow by North Dakota standards, but then Jerusalem is not in North Dakota.

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:30 AM

That is not a Broadway Lion but is a Mountain Lion!  Deep in the bowels of Canal St. on the M train.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:16 AM

Thats the MMM train to ewe!

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:20 AM

Bah!  Hamburg!

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:23 PM

iBut nobody else has caught the unusual nature of the pix beyond the cat.  When the M regularly "called" at Canal, lower level as in the picture, the M sign was brown, like the J and z, the other Wiliiamburg Bridge routes also "calling" or terminating at the Chambers Street Station.  Now that the line runs up Sixth Avenue, bypassing Canal and going directly from Essex and Delancy to Houston-2nd Avenue, it caries the orange M sign, as shown in the pix.  So this pix must have been taken a few days before the rerout.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:36 PM

The (M) never called on this platform.

The BMT has three different Canal Street stations. The (M) used to stop on the BROAD STREET/ CANAL station wince it came across the Williamsburg bridge. Now that it goes north on 6th Avenue it goes nowhere near Canal at all.

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:20 PM

Of course you are right, but no train with orange signs ever regularly called at Canal.   So this must be a photo taken during the Manhattan Bridge reconstruction, when the D and B from the Bronx and Washington Heigihts turned at 34th and 6th, and the D and B from Brooklyn ran up Broadway.   Still, an unusual photo!

I checked.  The M now carries and orange sign, since it does go up 6th.  But it had a Brown sign when it sstopped at Canal-Broad and went to Chambers Street and at one time through the Nassau Cut and the Montague Street tunnel to 9th Avenue on the West End line.

So the train is eiher a D or B rererouted up Broadway to 57th instead of going uo 6th to the Bronx or Washington Heights.

The regular trains at the station have yellow signs, the Q and the N.

The three BMT Canal street stations have always been connected for free transfer between them.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, December 16, 2013 11:14 AM

LION wants a ride on the Third Avenue Subway. Him asked Token Clerk for directions to the (8) train. She said him was 40 years too late.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:30 AM

So, that must be looking north on the east side of Gunn Hill Road station, where the upper level tracks are used by the 2 fulltime and the 5 during rush hours.  Are there still tracks on the old lower level, 3rd Avenue level or just structure?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:38 AM

LION is inspecting the third rail on the Sea Beach Line.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:44 PM

from the base of the farthest left bush just beyond the third rail.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:35 AM

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:41 AM

BroadwayLion

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:57 AM

My guesses is that it is NOT IND, despite the photo label,, because of the limited use of wood ties on the IND.  If it is IND, I would think at Smith and Bergan, where the southbound F can to the express track or join the G on the local track.  But I prefer to think it is the IRT looking north from 138th Street toward 149th or east of Franklin where the choice is to New Lots or to Nostrand and Flatbush.

Cat located to the left of the trip-hammer box, left of the rail, and about one or two ties further away.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:49 AM

My guess is that it is just east of the Euclid Avenue station. And the LION is not on the tracks.

You can see the Trip Lever? Is it on the right or on the left? Where does B division put the trippers.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 18, 2013 2:47 PM

I cannot make out the trip lever, but at 81 my eyes may not be that great anymore.   But it does seem inconceivable to me that they replaced concrete roadbed with wood stub ties and a drainage ditch bewen with the kind of track construction in the photo,, which, in tunnels, I remember only on IRT and BMT lines, not on the IND.  If not on the  IRT, possibly BMT in the neighborhood of DeKalb., possibly north lookiing to Manhattan Bridge.

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