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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, November 29, 2013 10:30 AM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, November 30, 2013 9:44 AM

LION visits Whitehall Street...

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Posted by daveklepper on Saturday, November 30, 2013 1:38 PM

OK you win, you did photograh the Sea Beach.     This looks like the Sea Beach's (N's) 8th Avenue station with the LIRR Bay Ridge Branch to the left, formerly electrified for New Haven RR freight, now used by the NY&Atlantic to connect with Cross-Harbor.  The freight sidings on the Sea Beach were all east of New Untrecht Ave., on the north side.  The LIRR is not parallel east of NUA.

At Whitehall, you were photographing a northbound train.

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Posted by Fox2! on Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:07 PM

Did you get up the hill to visit with the De La Salle Christian Brothers? 

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Posted by Fox2! on Sunday, December 1, 2013 8:08 PM

(that should have been linked to a picture of the 1 train at 242nd St & Broadway)

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, December 1, 2013 9:37 PM

I was always told that the Sea Beach had three freight sidings.   But when I first railfanned the line, about age 12, I saw only two, both with trolley wire, from openings in the north-side concrete wall east of New Utrcht Avenue.   But there was a large petroleum tank farm surrounded by BMT-NYCTA Coney Island yard propertly, just north of the Coney Island Creek, with track access from both the Macdonald Avenue streetcar-South Brooklyn freight tracks, and from the two-track shared West End and Sea Bach line.  (The West End and Sea Beach had a level junction just south of where the West End structure ramps down to grade level.  The separation of the two lines with separate bridges over Coney Island Creek came around 1948 or 1949.)  I wonder if this was what Lester Barnet and Herman Rinke and others meant by the third freight siding.

In visiting relatifves in Brooklyn, the Brighton was used most often, but we also had relatives near Culver and West End stations.   But not Sea Beach or 4th Avenue.   The first time I rode the Sea Beach was with two friends on a trip to Coney Island when we decided to return to Manhattan via route we had not seen up to that point  in our lives.  I don't think I saw the freight sidings on that trip, since the D-types at the time had full-width cabs, making looking out front a bit more difficult.   I think I saw them when I railfanned the Coney Island - Chambers St. Express service that summer and could enjoy the end-door window on the standard "Steels" commonly known as "B-types."

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, December 3, 2013 6:52 AM

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 3, 2013 3:05 PM

E180

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:48 AM

The front end of the R-180 car (6820) looks like it was stolen from the Chicago Transit Authority.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 6:58 AM

It is a photoshop puttogether or a photo on his or someone else's model railroad.  Because the 5 train is not red.  I think uses a green symbol, but certainly not red, reserved for 1, 2, and 3.   I think it is on his model rialroad with the photo diorama behind showing the E180 NYW&B station.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:04 AM

After reviewing the nycsubway website, I've established that 6820 is actually an R-142 and the front end really does look like it came from CTA.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 7:11 AM

daveklepper

It is a photoshop puttogether or a photo on his or someone else's model railroad.  Because the 5 train is not red.  I think uses a green symbol, but certainly not red, reserved for 1, 2, and 3.   I think it is on his model rialroad with the photo diorama behind showing the E180 NYW&B station.

LION does not Photoshop photos. Him uses Serif Photo Plus to add a little LION, (which you did not find yet) and Photomatix software to bring HD to the colors. Otherwise the photo was taken by me as you see it.

All high tech trains use red LEDs for the end marker.

ROAR

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 8:54 AM

So it is a photo taken on your model railroad with the diarama photo background including the NYW&B E180 station and your having modified one of your storebought IRT SMEE cars with a CTA rear end.

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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 9:00 AM

B.L.: repost your video ride from the Bronx down...good time and place to do it as it explains a lot about what you are doing....

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 10:28 AM

henry6
B.L.: repost your video ride from the Bronx down...good time and place to do it as it explains a lot about what you are doing....

LION is using "wayback" machine to visit 207th Street yards. The slants are on their way out (going for a swim, they are). The automobiles look like so many cubs at feeding time. LION is in hiding.

LION has taken no video in the city. If you want the one on my layout, I can show it again here.

watch?feature=playerembedded&v=wtxsdwqv08

It has now become an old video, there have been many improvements since then. I ought to shoot it again, but at the moment I am re-wiring the signal system. The trains are fully automatic, I do not control them once they leave the terminal at 242nd Street.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 2:35 PM

wonderful layout      captures the spirit of the subway system    

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Posted by NorthWest on Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:19 PM

Various comments (in chronological order):

1. The New Technology trains (including R142s) have all red LEDs. Although one with green LEDs and cab front sides would be interesting for the 5...

2. The R142 to me doesn't look like a CTA train, as it doesn't have class lights, and the sides are vertical (not sloped like CTA cars). The headlights and taillights are vertical, not horizontally arranged. But I can see where the resemblance is. To each their own opinion!

3. The Lion is on top of the plastic barrier below R40 4231's first door.

4. Lion, you have done amazing work considering the resources you have. If it brings you joy, you are doing it right.

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:17 AM

The TA has used several manufactuers and models of diesel switchers in work-train service.  Is the one model seen several times on the video a model of one they used or are using?

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Posted by henry6 on Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:00 AM

NorthWest

4. Lion, you have done amazing work considering the resources you have. If it brings you joy, you are doing it right.

This is the most important point.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, December 5, 2013 9:14 AM

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn....

The baskets between the ties are to catch bolts and stuff before they land on pedestrians and cars below. LION is hiding, and given his size, he is in a safe enough place given the frame of the photo.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, December 5, 2013 2:50 PM

OO

BroadwayLion

A Tree Grows in Brooklyn....

The baskets between the ties are to catch bolts and stuff before they land on pedestrians and cars below. LION is hiding, and given his size, he is in a safe enough place given the frame of the photo.

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Posted by NorthWest on Thursday, December 5, 2013 8:00 PM

Nice eye, Lion! Thanks for posting.

The Lion is on the iron bar with holes in it between the right rail and the walkway, three ties up from the base of the tree.

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Posted by NorthWest on Monday, December 9, 2013 11:06 PM

Where is Lion now? Back in the tunnels, or freezing away in North Dakota? 

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:04 AM

I'm still hoping that he would make a visit to Chicago, lots of interesting places on the L for him to see.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:43 AM

Possibly he has not finished exploring NY.   Has he been to 95th and Ft. Hamilton?  Or Broad and Nassau?   Or Nostrand and Flatbush?    The Crosstown part of the G?   The "L" end-to-end?  1st things 1st!

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Posted by NorthWest on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:09 AM

How about PATH, the other subway?

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:45 AM

LION is indeed in North Dakota, but it has been very cold out here, and the fire in our boiler went out yesterday morning. We fire with coal, and it was so cold out that the coal froze, (to the side of the bin). This created a coal bridge inside the bin with several tons of coal up in the air, and not down on the augers.

It was quicker to bang down the coal, and relight the coal boiler than it would have been to start up the gas boiler. The coal saves us about $200 per day over gas. Anyway, it is all working now. We also have our own generator so that if power goes out we are still lit up.

LION has been working on model railroad since Monday was a holiday.

Here is LION in Hiding at Dyckman Street....

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 1:41 PM

At about platform level between the black control box and the right face of the tunnel portal.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 2:04 PM

Nah... The LION is on the green wall just in front of that dead tree.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:49 AM

Not on, behind, one paw showing "on".

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