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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:57 PM
Actually, most of the time, we just wiss over the hand rail.
But yes, they do have toilets, in fact, I was on a pair of GP 30s this morning, you had to turn around backwards, then bend over, and back into the nose compartment, and stay crouched over while you used the toilet.
I am only 5'9" tall, and my head was hitting the roof of the compartment.
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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:57 PM
Actually, most of the time, we just wiss over the hand rail.
But yes, they do have toilets, in fact, I was on a pair of GP 30s this morning, you had to turn around backwards, then bend over, and back into the nose compartment, and stay crouched over while you used the toilet.
I am only 5'9" tall, and my head was hitting the roof of the compartment.
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Posted by ironhorseman on Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:02 PM
Speaking of toilets, I've seen the toilets in the SD90s and the Dash-9s, but did they have toillets in the old GPs and old SDs (you know? the non-wide cab or non-safety cab version?) I know train simulator can't simulate the toilet.

And on a more gross note, I heard in the news that the state of Washington has a problem with bottles and bags of human waste left on the highways. Someone said it was mostly the truckers fault. I shudder to think (yes I'm shuddering right now) that any train crews would be filling bottles with human waste and then bombing the countryside with them. [xx(] If anybody does use bottles I hope they put in the trash. YUCK! [xx(]

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Posted by ironhorseman on Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:02 PM
Speaking of toilets, I've seen the toilets in the SD90s and the Dash-9s, but did they have toillets in the old GPs and old SDs (you know? the non-wide cab or non-safety cab version?) I know train simulator can't simulate the toilet.

And on a more gross note, I heard in the news that the state of Washington has a problem with bottles and bags of human waste left on the highways. Someone said it was mostly the truckers fault. I shudder to think (yes I'm shuddering right now) that any train crews would be filling bottles with human waste and then bombing the countryside with them. [xx(] If anybody does use bottles I hope they put in the trash. YUCK! [xx(]

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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:49 PM
Because its just one more thing to repair.
The wipers run off of vacume, just like your old early 50s automobile.
When they fail, most of the time all thats needed is a o-ring to fix them, or a new vacume hose.
Cheap and easy to fix.
Washers would need to be filled and maintained, heck, we cant even get them to clean the toilet, and refill the water or drain the tank, they would never fill the washer fluid!
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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:49 PM
Because its just one more thing to repair.
The wipers run off of vacume, just like your old early 50s automobile.
When they fail, most of the time all thats needed is a o-ring to fix them, or a new vacume hose.
Cheap and easy to fix.
Washers would need to be filled and maintained, heck, we cant even get them to clean the toilet, and refill the water or drain the tank, they would never fill the washer fluid!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:13 PM
Why do locomotives not have windshield washers? Seems like a simple enough device to have.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:13 PM
Why do locomotives not have windshield washers? Seems like a simple enough device to have.
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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:43 PM
.....If my memory serves me correctly...E-8's and E-9's served Amtrak at times on the James Whitcome Riley running through Indiana from points east to Cincinnati to Chicago during the mid 70's. The route is now in process of becoming a bike and walking trail. We have 20 miles of it paved...10 miles north and 10 miles south of Muncie.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, December 21, 2003 3:43 PM
.....If my memory serves me correctly...E-8's and E-9's served Amtrak at times on the James Whitcome Riley running through Indiana from points east to Cincinnati to Chicago during the mid 70's. The route is now in process of becoming a bike and walking trail. We have 20 miles of it paved...10 miles north and 10 miles south of Muncie.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:27 PM
....Probably the windshield on most engines could use some elbow grease on cleaning them both inside and out...Doubt if they get much attention. At least not as much as they should to have them really clean. [:)]

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, December 21, 2003 12:27 PM
....Probably the windshield on most engines could use some elbow grease on cleaning them both inside and out...Doubt if they get much attention. At least not as much as they should to have them really clean. [:)]

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:51 AM
They have wipers (usually operated by compressed-air motors), but no washers like you have in your car. It's like when your car's washers don't work (frozen or out of fluid): give the wipers an assist with water or clean snow.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, December 21, 2003 11:51 AM
They have wipers (usually operated by compressed-air motors), but no washers like you have in your car. It's like when your car's washers don't work (frozen or out of fluid): give the wipers an assist with water or clean snow.

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Posted by Nora on Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:54 AM
Do locomotives have windshield washer things? Just wondering because I recently saw a train waiting at a signal, and the conductor got out and climbed up on the nose and threw a couple bottles of water at the windshield to clean it off. That's one way to do it, I guess.

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Posted by Nora on Sunday, December 21, 2003 9:54 AM
Do locomotives have windshield washer things? Just wondering because I recently saw a train waiting at a signal, and the conductor got out and climbed up on the nose and threw a couple bottles of water at the windshield to clean it off. That's one way to do it, I guess.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:38 AM
OK - Another stupid question - What would cause an AMTRAK train to be running 6 hours late, and then stop in a town for an hour that it isn't even supposed to stop in. The one AMTRAK that comes through brunswick has done that a few times (I have found the explination for 2 of those times, but there are many unefined days, one time the lead AMD-103 died and had to be taken off and placed in the yard here, leaving the second unit to run the 16 car train on is own, the other, it ran out of fuel)
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:38 AM
OK - Another stupid question - What would cause an AMTRAK train to be running 6 hours late, and then stop in a town for an hour that it isn't even supposed to stop in. The one AMTRAK that comes through brunswick has done that a few times (I have found the explination for 2 of those times, but there are many unefined days, one time the lead AMD-103 died and had to be taken off and placed in the yard here, leaving the second unit to run the 16 car train on is own, the other, it ran out of fuel)
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:31 AM
E-8s were used in Maryland for commuter service up to around 1995 to 1996 (former BN, kept in their own colors for years), and one of those units, I think it was an E-8, was shipped to Washington State for the Spirit of Washington Wine train.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:31 AM
E-8s were used in Maryland for commuter service up to around 1995 to 1996 (former BN, kept in their own colors for years), and one of those units, I think it was an E-8, was shipped to Washington State for the Spirit of Washington Wine train.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:04 AM
I don't know about other railroads but I do know that Frisco used their E units right up to the day they discountinued passenger trains in 1967. I (choke, hate to admit it) but as a very small boy I remember seeing them and even road the passenger trains a few times. [;)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 21, 2003 6:04 AM
I don't know about other railroads but I do know that Frisco used their E units right up to the day they discountinued passenger trains in 1967. I (choke, hate to admit it) but as a very small boy I remember seeing them and even road the passenger trains a few times. [;)]
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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:53 PM
Dont know if grades made such a difference, but maintainance would.
If I had to keep two locomotive(E unit and its booster) running, with two diesels each in two frames, or two seperate diesels in two seperate frames, that could fulfill the role not only of passenger service, but pull freight too, I would go with the F unit system.
Because, if either unit failed, I would still have a running locomotive.
But with both the E unit, and its booster having two diesels each, thats twice the maintainance headaches.
I wasnt around then, but if csshegewisch says grades were a problem, I would tend to belive him.
But I would bet the dual usage of the F unit pretty much put a end to the E units.
From what I have read, most railroads went to the F unit in a big way, for both services.
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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, December 20, 2003 8:53 PM
Dont know if grades made such a difference, but maintainance would.
If I had to keep two locomotive(E unit and its booster) running, with two diesels each in two frames, or two seperate diesels in two seperate frames, that could fulfill the role not only of passenger service, but pull freight too, I would go with the F unit system.
Because, if either unit failed, I would still have a running locomotive.
But with both the E unit, and its booster having two diesels each, thats twice the maintainance headaches.
I wasnt around then, but if csshegewisch says grades were a problem, I would tend to belive him.
But I would bet the dual usage of the F unit pretty much put a end to the E units.
From what I have read, most railroads went to the F unit in a big way, for both services.
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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:51 PM
....In several posts back, the poster indicates the E's may have not lasted long because of grades....and I'm thinking if they had 2 engines why that was a factor....Were the 2 engines less horsepower than the F series...and possibly the PA's as well....Or was it all a factor of gearing....?

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:51 PM
....In several posts back, the poster indicates the E's may have not lasted long because of grades....and I'm thinking if they had 2 engines why that was a factor....Were the 2 engines less horsepower than the F series...and possibly the PA's as well....Or was it all a factor of gearing....?

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:35 PM
And Uncle Petes E units, 951 and 949, have standard EMD control stands, if you ever ran a GP 38 through SD 40-2, you would be right at home.
But they sure look pretty.
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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:35 PM
And Uncle Petes E units, 951 and 949, have standard EMD control stands, if you ever ran a GP 38 through SD 40-2, you would be right at home.
But they sure look pretty.
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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:29 PM
E units had two engines and two generators. Nominally 900-1100 hp per engine, 1800 to 2200 hp per locomotive.

The exception are the UP heritage E's which could be called E-38-2's. They had the two diesels removed and a single "standard" EMD 645 2000 hp engine installed. Nominally the same hp, only now it uses standard, modern components.

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Posted by dehusman on Saturday, December 20, 2003 5:29 PM
E units had two engines and two generators. Nominally 900-1100 hp per engine, 1800 to 2200 hp per locomotive.

The exception are the UP heritage E's which could be called E-38-2's. They had the two diesels removed and a single "standard" EMD 645 2000 hp engine installed. Nominally the same hp, only now it uses standard, modern components.

Dave H.

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