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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

.....In the winter time the water was never "warm" in the tender....and some engines had preheaters [by steam], to take some of the cold out of the water before it entered the boiler....


When/where is the water heated? Can the water freeze in the tender?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:29 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

.....In the winter time the water was never "warm" in the tender....and some engines had preheaters [by steam], to take some of the cold out of the water before it entered the boiler....


When/where is the water heated? Can the water freeze in the tender?
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Posted by Nora on Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:41 AM
Here is a really irrelevant question. Does anyone know why they call it "Armour" yellow?

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Posted by Nora on Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:41 AM
Here is a really irrelevant question. Does anyone know why they call it "Armour" yellow?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:33 AM
I once read that hot water could not be picked up by the injectors for filling the boiler. This explains the economic value of feedwater heaters but I could never understand why injectors couldn't pick up hot water.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:33 AM
I once read that hot water could not be picked up by the injectors for filling the boiler. This explains the economic value of feedwater heaters but I could never understand why injectors couldn't pick up hot water.
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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:00 PM
.....In the winter time the water was never "warm" in the tender....and some engines had preheaters [by steam], to take some of the cold out of the water before it entered the boiler....

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:00 PM
.....In the winter time the water was never "warm" in the tender....and some engines had preheaters [by steam], to take some of the cold out of the water before it entered the boiler....

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:45 PM
QUOTE: You must have found my post from way back in this thread. Man that seems ages ago now. As I said in one of my posts I have read stories about the NYC [:)] scooping water from their track pans while on the fly. When the tender became full the water would flo through a pipe to the back of the tender and come out there. People who would be back there were given an involuntary bath. During the winter the water was heated but the bet the temperature wasn't all that hot. Probally just above freezing by a little and that was it, that is my guess. The thought of that cold water in the cold winter send shivers down my spine. (Oh, never mind, that was just Duchess cold nose. [:o)] )


[?] If the water was just above freezing how would this effect the steam? Would the loco slow because of the cold water? Also can the water freeze in the tender?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:45 PM
QUOTE: You must have found my post from way back in this thread. Man that seems ages ago now. As I said in one of my posts I have read stories about the NYC [:)] scooping water from their track pans while on the fly. When the tender became full the water would flo through a pipe to the back of the tender and come out there. People who would be back there were given an involuntary bath. During the winter the water was heated but the bet the temperature wasn't all that hot. Probally just above freezing by a little and that was it, that is my guess. The thought of that cold water in the cold winter send shivers down my spine. (Oh, never mind, that was just Duchess cold nose. [:o)] )


[?] If the water was just above freezing how would this effect the steam? Would the loco slow because of the cold water? Also can the water freeze in the tender?

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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:37 PM
The detector cars have to go over the mains several times a year. So the DC 20 was making its normal rounds.

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Posted by dehusman on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 4:37 PM
The detector cars have to go over the mains several times a year. So the DC 20 was making its normal rounds.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:32 PM
Any officials I would have known, from out Proviso way? You only did what I may have felt like doing often enough...

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:32 PM
Any officials I would have known, from out Proviso way? You only did what I may have felt like doing often enough...

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

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Posted by zardoz on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

[:0]

Mookie


Yea, something like that, except it was a bit more exciting at the time [B)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fiverings

"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

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You must have found my post from way back in this thread. Man that seems ages ago now. As I said in one of my posts I have read stories about the NYC [:)] scooping water from their track pans while on the fly. When the tender became full the water would flo through a pipe to the back of the tender and come out there. People who would be back there were given an involuntary bath. During the winter the water was heated but the bet the temperature wasn't all that hot. Probally just above freezing by a little and that was it, that is my guess. The thought of that cold water in the cold winter send shivers down my spine. (Oh, never mind, that was just Duchess cold nose. [:o)] )
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:15 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by fiverings

"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

--John


John [:)]

You must have found my post from way back in this thread. Man that seems ages ago now. As I said in one of my posts I have read stories about the NYC [:)] scooping water from their track pans while on the fly. When the tender became full the water would flo through a pipe to the back of the tender and come out there. People who would be back there were given an involuntary bath. During the winter the water was heated but the bet the temperature wasn't all that hot. Probally just above freezing by a little and that was it, that is my guess. The thought of that cold water in the cold winter send shivers down my spine. (Oh, never mind, that was just Duchess cold nose. [:o)] )
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:05 AM
"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 17, 2003 8:05 AM
"Blind" is an archaic term--it means the end of a passenger car or baggage car that is without steps and a platform for the boarding and detraining of passengers. To "ride the blinds" was hobo slang for riding between the blind ends of 2 adjacent cars (or between the tender and the first car, if the first car had a blind end facing the tender). The idea was to avoid detection by the crew. Obviously it was a dangerous practice, and old timers still tell stories of finding hobos frozen to death "in the blinds."

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 1:23 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by zardoz

AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
You told the superintendent to do what and put it where???!!!!

[:0]

Mookie

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Posted by zardoz on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:06 PM
AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
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Posted by zardoz on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:06 PM
AntonioFP45-

I was an engineer for the CNW between 1973 and 1992.

Then there was the little matter of gross insubordination.......
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

MC


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The ties and ballast were redone within the last year or so. This was on the Van Buren sub but still in North Little Rock (Levy area). The tracks go under I-40 and there is major work on the road and bridges in our area. I was curious if the current road work had anything to do with DC-20 being here. Just a note--the Camp Robinson spur is right there also. This spur sees MOW equipment parked there every now and then. A year or two ago they parked a CNW unit there for a day or two. I wish now I would have taken a pic or two of it but didn't. The special WWII Trains magazine showed a troop train at Camp Robinson being loaded with solders going off to war. Who knows when the last "real" train (not MOW equipment) went down those tracks. It would have been sometime between WWII and who knows when.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 16, 2003 2:27 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

MC


Thanks M C [:)]

The ties and ballast were redone within the last year or so. This was on the Van Buren sub but still in North Little Rock (Levy area). The tracks go under I-40 and there is major work on the road and bridges in our area. I was curious if the current road work had anything to do with DC-20 being here. Just a note--the Camp Robinson spur is right there also. This spur sees MOW equipment parked there every now and then. A year or two ago they parked a CNW unit there for a day or two. I wish now I would have taken a pic or two of it but didn't. The special WWII Trains magazine showed a troop train at Camp Robinson being loaded with solders going off to war. Who knows when the last "real" train (not MOW equipment) went down those tracks. It would have been sometime between WWII and who knows when.
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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, December 15, 2003 4:21 PM
Nance
In most cases when you let the hogs get you ( hours of service) a relief crew is already their and no reason to tie the train down. but if you do tie it down it is 4 hours that has to go by before a air test needs to be done. unless you leave the engine running.

the speeds of past was also due in part of the time table. if you had to get to point b in so many min the speed limits was only a guide there was many times you run 10-15 mph over to stay on time now adays there is no schedual so you do as told by the book.
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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, December 15, 2003 4:21 PM
Nance
In most cases when you let the hogs get you ( hours of service) a relief crew is already their and no reason to tie the train down. but if you do tie it down it is 4 hours that has to go by before a air test needs to be done. unless you leave the engine running.

the speeds of past was also due in part of the time table. if you had to get to point b in so many min the speed limits was only a guide there was many times you run 10-15 mph over to stay on time now adays there is no schedual so you do as told by the book.
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, December 15, 2003 3:20 PM
DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

MC
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Posted by mudchicken on Monday, December 15, 2003 3:20 PM
DC-20 is an ultrasonic rail test truck looking for rail defects. Wherever it goes, bedlam is sure to follow. (slow orders, whining dispatchers, frazzled track gangs changing rail, welders, delayed trains...that type of bedlam) .... may now be equipped with a rail corrugation analyser as well (and yes, it's GPS equipped)

MC
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west

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