A walkway along the car?
Johnny
Johnny beat me to it. It would be walkways with handrails along each side of the cars.
Mark
Carl
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CShaveRRMark, Johnny beat you to another wrong answer!
Thank you, Carl.
Hey, no prob! Most 103s did have walkways and handrails around the tank to hold onto, but there were plenty of 111s with those features as well (they're disappearing fast, though!).
The difference is as obvious as the nose on your face--or the hat on your head!
Carl,
I'm out of my league when it comes to the construction details of these cars so I'm just guessing. The tanks on the older cars were cylindrical in cross section. I see many cars thse days that are not true cylinders but have flattened vertical sides. Could that be the difference?
Your "hat on your head" comment leads me to believe it may have something to do with the tank domes but I have no idea what it is so I'll have to stick with my guess above.
KCSfanThe tanks on the older cars were cylindrical in cross section. I see many cars thse days that are not true cylinders but have flattened vertical sides. Could that be the difference?
The tanks on the older cars were cylindrical in cross section. I see many cars thse days that are not true cylinders but have flattened vertical sides. Could that be the difference?
Nope
KCSfanYour "hat on your head" comment leads me to believe it may have something to do with the tank domes but I have no idea what it is so I'll have to stick with my guess above.
Mark, you should know by now that I try very hard to choose my words well!
OK. SWAG number 3 for me. An overflow?
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
oltmannd OK. SWAG number 3 for me. An overflow?
Some sort of gas bleeding or pressure equalization valve? - a.s.
Expansion dome?
--The little fencelike apparatus surrounding the dome? - al
It has to do with difference between welded and rivetted and pressurization due to thermal exapansion. I imagine that a rivetted car would not withstand much pressure, but a welded one could. Even for a commodity that didn't need pressurization, I imagine there could be quite a bit of thermal exansion of product, and on a full car, that could mean quite a bit of pressure. Both were probably vented, but if the vent got plugged, you'd have to relieve the pressure on the welded car to prevent catastrophic failure. The rivetted car would probably just partially bust a seam, popping a few rivets.
And, now I'm stuck...
TrainManTyExpansion dome?
See what I mean by obvious?
The 103-class cars have (had) a dome on top (or one for each compartment); the 111-class cars do not. Expansion is the reason usually given for the domes on older tank cars, but given the fact that we've now gotten along for decades without them (insulation is not the issue), I question that.
Tyler, you're up!
Wow...that was just a wild guess... Now I have to think of a question...
I'll check back when I've got one...
It's taken a while to come up with a question that I actually know something about that isn't way too obvious or impossibly hard... I still don't know if this one is easy enough for some of you to get. I've researched it and am writing an article for the local newspaper, and there's a complete lack of information on the subject, or even on it's successor! So it'll be more of a geography question;hopefully some of you with knowledge of local geography will be able to get it.
Worcester Consolidated Street Railway Co. Route 70 probably became a bus route in the 1920s. I don't know whether the bus in the picture went there. Also pictures of Massachusetts Central Railroad trestles in the reservoir and book pages referring to the Worcester & Clinton. On the last link, scroll down a notch to page 107 for a map of the consolidated system.
http://www.autopaper.com/Ebay1/atlas/39742.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Wachusett_Res_2005.jpg
http://dlib.cwmars.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/w_boylston&CISOPTR=2&REC=16
http://dlib.cwmars.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/w_boylston&CISOPTR=11&REC=5
http://books.google.com/books?id=P8JIAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA75&dq=%22Worcester+%26+Clinton%22
http://books.google.com/books?id=S3wpAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA106&dq=%22Worcester+%26+Clinton%22
Mike
We have a winner! Yes, Route 70 was converted to buses, and may still be one. I haven't seen the buses in a couple years though.
Thank you for the great links! I've saved most of the photos for future reference.
Your turn to ask a question!
I took an interest because my mother was from Ware, as was my grandfather who graduated from the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester in 1906. Probably he rode that railroad in the reservoir.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/1888_Central_Mass.gif
What did the Santa Fe have twice as many of as the D&RGW, the Milwaukee Road, the New Haven, the B&M, the L&N and the Monon? And what railroad had exactly as many of these as the Santa Fe?
I don't know how far back in time the question applies, but I'll just guess: UP and division points. - a.s.
How about F units? The other road - PRR?
They're relatively rare. UP and PRR and most railroads didn't have them. The few that did typically had fewer than two.
How about Alco HH660s? The other road - D&H?
Not a locomotive. In fact not even railroad property, except as in a trademark.
wanswheel Not a locomotive. In fact not even railroad property, except as in a trademark.
In what year(s) did this situation exist? Can you give us a clue? - a.s.
1912 to 1956. The railroad was leased in 1900 but remained famous.
Mascot? Or Stewardesses?
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