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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, April 13, 2009 9:09 PM

Forget it! Not a chance. No, not on a bridge. However, I was definitely looking at a train--not sure, but I think it was CP up on that hill. So I guess I give it to Henry for saying Niagara Falls. Objections?

Mark, I know it sounds like a copout, but I don't have said picture--one of my sisters does, I think. It's a slide. My dad thought it was hilarious, but I'm rather proud of the concept, regardless of how homely I was (little if any improvement since then, by the way). After all, that train was moving and would be gone; the river and the Falls have stayed around for a while.

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Posted by KCSfan on Monday, April 13, 2009 7:07 PM

I want to see that picture of Carl as a teenager.

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Posted by rrnut282 on Monday, April 13, 2009 11:21 AM

 A train crossing the Niagra Suspension Bridge, perhaps?

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, April 13, 2009 10:19 AM
No, not a barrel. I had my back to the crowd, and was looking at...

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, April 13, 2009 9:51 AM

Niagra Falls.  You were in a barrel.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Monday, April 13, 2009 9:39 AM
Deggesty

Anyhow, let's see what Carl comes up with to tease us.

Johnny

Well, Johnny, in honor of your current trip oot and aboot:

In the early 1960s, my family took a trip into Canada. At a particular location, my dad took a priceless picture of me (I was a homely teenager then, so the shot will never see the light of day if I can help it). Anyway, it was of hundreds of people looking down over a railing. And here I was, looking in the opposite direction--away from the railing, and up.

So, where were we, and what was I looking at, eh?

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Posted by spokyone on Monday, April 13, 2009 8:26 AM

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Posted by Deggesty on Monday, April 13, 2009 6:10 AM

KCSfan

With regard to the difference between Yellow Jackets and Stripes pictures are worth a thousand words. Check this link. http://www.ncps-576.org/576/stripe.htm

Mark, since it has been a few years since I read the account, my memory may be faulty, but I recall that when the second ten were being built, instructions came from Washington to eliminate unnecessary metal--so the broad band became just wide enough to support the walkway. Personaly, I think that the Yellow Jacket looks much better.

Anyhow, let's see what Carl comes up with to tease us.

Johnny

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Posted by KCSfan on Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:59 PM

As Johnny has already posted Carl correctly answered my question - the 4-8-4's were officially called Dixies by the NC&StL.

With regard to the difference between Yellow Jackets and Stripes pictures are worth a thousand words. Check this link. http://www.ncps-576.org/576/stripe.htm

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:35 PM

Okay, I'll go for it:  What is the difference between "Yellow Jackets" and "Stripes"? 

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:58 PM

KCSfan
The next question is about steam locomotives. A certain RR received ten 4-8-4's from Alco in 1942 and another ten in 1943. Crews promptly dubbed the first ten "Yellow Jackets" and the second ten "Str

Mark, why didn't you make this difficult by asking about the difference between the "Yellow Jackets" and the "Stripes"?

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:53 PM

Hey, Carl, in case Mark is slow in responding to your answer, let me tell you that you are absolutely right in naming the NC&StL, and telling us that the the engines were "Dixies."

Now, if Mark had asked about the difference between a "Stripe" and a "yellowjacket"....

We are in Fredericton, N. B., having driven from Moncton after church today. About ten in inches of snow were predicted for the area, and the snow started after we went to bed last night.

We had a drawing room every night all the way from Vancouver to Moncton, but our travel schedule puts us into a sorry Renaissance bedroom for our trip back to Montreal tomorrow. The only difference between an ordinary bedroom and a deluxe bedroom in a Renaissance sleeper is that the deluxe has a shower. There is no shower room for all passengers in the Renaissance cars (each of the sleepers from the CP's Canadian, except the Park cars, has a shower room which is greatly superior to what Amtrak offers).

Back to the States Wednesday.

Best to you,

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:49 PM

Hey, Carl, in case Mark is slow in responding to your answer, let me tell you that you are absolutely right in naming the NC&StL, and telling us that the the engines were "Dixies."

We are in Fredericton, N. B., having driven from Moncton after church today. About ten in inches of snow were predicted for the area, and the snow started after we went to bed last night.

We had a drawing room every night all the way from Vancouver to Moncton, but our travel schedule puts us into a sorry Renaissance bedroom for our trip back to Montreal tomorrow. The only difference between an ordinary bedroom and a deluxe bedroom in a Renaissance sleeper is that the deluxe has a shower. There is no shower room for all passengers in the Renaissance cars (each of the sleepers from the CP's Canadian, except the Park cars, has a shower room which is greatly superior to what Amtrak offers).

Back to the States Wednesday.

Best to you,

Johnny

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, April 12, 2009 3:13 PM
Nashville, Chattanooga & St. Louis was the railroad with these 4-8-4s. And I believe they were called "Dixie" types--anything but Northern!

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Posted by KCSfan on Sunday, April 12, 2009 8:21 AM

Since Spokyone declared me winner of the last question I took the liberty of looking up the dates of operation of the Rebels. The Jackson - NO Rebel ran from 1935 to 1954 and the StlL- Mobile Gulf Coast Rebel ran from 1940 to 1958.

FYI Al-in-Chicago, Mike Haverty is the CEO of the Kansas City Southern.

The next question is about steam locomotives. A certain RR received ten 4-8-4's from Alco in 1942 and another ten in 1943. Crews promptly dubbed the first ten "Yellow Jackets" and the second ten "Stripes". On most RR's these engines would have been Northerns but the owning road deigned that label and instead adopted another name for this wheel arrangement. What RR owned these engines and what was the official name they gave to these 4-8-4's?

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Posted by spokyone on Saturday, April 11, 2009 11:39 PM

Mark: You have the route correct. I did not know the dates.
Just a note about New Albany Mississippi, the police cars have "In God We Trust" written in big letters, along with the officer's name. Four people stopped to ask if we needed help. I sure wanted a pic of street running.
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Posted by KCSfan on Saturday, April 11, 2009 11:01 PM

In my prior reply I failed to mention that New Albany was on the Jackson-New Orleans route of the original Rebel. IIRC that train was discontinued in the early 1950's while the Gulf Coast Rebel ran on until the late 1950's.

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Posted by KCSfan on Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:44 PM

The first Rebel ran between Jaxkson, TN and New Orleans on the GM&N RR. Later on after the road became the GM&O the Gulf Coast Rebel ran between St. Louis and Mobile. The Rebel was discontinued around 1959 give or take a year. I'm not sure of the exact year.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, April 11, 2009 10:20 PM

spokyone

Al

You now have the honor of posting the next question. 

I not sure about my question. Here goes.

I visited New Albany MS last month. While I was taking pics of the Mississippi Tennessee railroad, an old timer stopped to chat. He mentioned that "THE REBEL" used to pass through New Albany. Which two cities would have been served by that train. What year would that service been discontinued?

Is "MS" the Postal Service abbreviation for "Mississippi"? 

 

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Posted by spokyone on Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:56 PM

Al

You now have the honor of posting the next question. 

I not sure about my question. Here goes.

I visited New Albany MS last month. While I was taking pics of the Mississippi Tennessee railroad, an old timer stopped to chat. He mentioned that "THE REBEL" used to pass through New Albany. Which two cities would have been served by that train. What year would that service been discontinued?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:24 PM
spokyone
al-in-chgo
 from prior posts:  "First timer here.

Kevin V. Schieffer,

of the DM&E?"

_________________

 

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Bob, you need to think bigger.  Also the individual in question is still in office.

 

The book is about BNSF so,
Matthew K. Rose?

DING!  DING!  DING!  It is indeed Matthew Rose, Bob. 

You now have the honor of posting the next question. 


Cheers!  -  a.s.

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Posted by spokyone on Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:02 PM
al-in-chgo
 from prior posts:  "First timer here.

Kevin V. Schieffer,

of the DM&E?"

_________________

 

_________________

Bob, you need to think bigger.  Also the individual in question is still in office.

 

The book is about BNSF so,
Matthew K. Rose?
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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:02 PM

from prior post:  "Mr. Haverty?

Carl" 
 
Please tell us who this dude was/is, Carl, so we can include him in the process of elimination.  -  a.s.
 
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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 11, 2009 8:40 PM
Mr. Haverty?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:34 PM
 from prior posts:  "First timer here.

Kevin V. Schieffer, of the DM&E?"

_________________

CShaveRR
I suspect that we're referring to the Darling of Wall Street and Everybody Else (except for the railroaders who work under him), Mr. Harrison of the CN.

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Bob, you need to think bigger.  Also the individual in question is still in office.

Carl, great guess.  It isn't Hunter Harrison but stay in that vein.....

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:27 PM
I suspect that we're referring to the Darling of Wall Street and Everybody Else (except for the railroaders who work under him), Mr. Harrison of the CN.

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Posted by spokyone on Saturday, April 11, 2009 7:24 PM
First timer here.

Kevin V. Schieffer, of the DM&E?

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Saturday, April 11, 2009 11:43 AM

Paul_D_North_Jr
Paul_D_North_Jr

Is he a CEO / President / Chairman of the Board type, or another position ? (which would expand the possibilities greatly)

He is described in company literature as "chairman, president and chief executive officer" and the company he works for is a large one.   - a.s.

 

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:39 AM

Is he a CEO / President / Chairman of the Board type, or another position ? (which would expand the possibilities greatly)

"This Fascinating Railroad Business" (title of 1943 book by Robert Selph Henry of the AAR)

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