....Point well taken Willy.
One thing though.....When it does hit now, we have catastrophic damage because of the massive build up of property and population since the previous hits early in last century, etc....
Andrew and Katrina have devastated such in the past decade or so that one probably has to go back years and years to equal. Not to speak of potential damage to vital oil and refinery infrastructure in the south and Gulf areas.
Edit: One more thing Willy.....TV reporting....130 mph....ratings...!
Quentin
Modelcar wrote: ....Point well taken Willy.One thing though.....When it does hit now, we have catastrophic damage because of the massive build up of property and population since the previous hits early in last century, etc....Andrew and Katrina have devastated such in the past decade or so that one probably has to go back years and years to equal. Not to speak of potential damage to vital oil and refinery infrastructure in the south and Gulf areas.
And I agree with those statements 100%. The increase in population along the Gulf Coast has had a major impact on the amount of damage we see from tropical cyclones that, in previous years, might not have caused nearly as much destruction.
EDIT: I agree also about the TV ratings. If Fox News puts their guy out in 130 mph winds, the other guy will have to put their reporter in 140 mph winds, just to outdo the competition. I also noted that as Gustav approached, some national news stations were reporting that it was a category 5 hurricane when it was actually a category 4 at the time. They could have just been misinformed, but my guess is that they were actually trying to get more viewers and higher ratings. Unfortunately, it can put the public in a lot of danger to report in a certain way, simply for the sake of getting a better rating.
Willy
Modelcar wrote:I'm not familiar with what the "17's" are....believe from what your comments are, it's a bit larger and maybe more capable than the "130's" have been....That sounds pretty good.
Quentin, the C-17 replaced the C-141 transport's which have since been retired.
The C-17 is also referred to as the Globemaster....For the Air Force this is I believe the 4th iteration of the Globemaster, whose history dates to the late forties (back when my Dad used to fly them).
Hope this helps.
Brian
(Retired USAF MSgt)
....Thanks Brian for the update. Globemaster is an "old" icon in airplanes. If I remember correctly while Uncle Sam had me in Korea in the dark ages....Very early 50's, I believe the 4 {prop}, engined Globemasters were ID'd as C124's. Think they had a pretty good reputation in their day. A cavernous interior to haul many, many troops or equipment. Thought I'd get to ride one on my trip to Japan on R&R but not to be....It was a C-47, which {was ok with me}, I knew it could fly even if half a wing was shot off....and one brought me back too....on Thanksgiving Day and they gave us chicken sandwiches at 12,000 cold ft. Hmmm good.
adrianspeeder wrote: tree68 wrote:I think there are B52 jockeys flying airplanes their grandfathers flew. When I was at Griffiss AFB, I was always amazed by the airplane's nose down angle of attack. I've been told that they tried putting four of those big turbofans you see behind AS on a B52 but the thrust was too much.For sure grandson crews on both the B52 and C5. The 8 TF33's are horribly inefficient, and the costs of remotoring with four RB211's were compaired to not be worth it. But wait, they screwed up, (what the air force mess up a budget contract? Nawww...) and it actually would pay off, so it could still happen. Not to much thrust at all and would make the 52 highly capible for another 50 years. Long live the Big Ugly Fat Fu.... Hey lunch is ready. locomutt wrote:The Army has to rely on the Air Force every so often to get their equipment to certain locations! Or every day, lol. "USAF: Coverin' the Army's tail since 1947". Modelcar wrote: ....Adrian: Do you ever get to work around or with a C5A-Glaxy aircraft.....Or possibly ride in one....? I think they are the most awesome aircraft I've seen operate. Edit: Just noticed your C-5 comment....What's the problem with them.....? It is awesome in the fact it can get off the ground. Testament to my maintenance friends on that side of the shop. You want really awesome? Take a plane a bit smaller than the C5, fully freight it, and have it do F-16 type manuvers. The capabilities designed into the 17 are amazing. Tactical takeoffs/landings, 3000ft long / 90ft wide dirt runway ability to rival the C130, electronic flight controls for off the chart relyability, and it does it with over twice the efficiency. An equal comparison is a '08 shortbox crew cab one ton diesel vs a '75 smallblock chevy longbox. Sure the '75 can work, but at cost. I work around C5's when they park next too us, but I swear the gremlins jump off and try to play with us. Not really interested in ridin' one either. Also all the C5As have been retired/scrapped, the remaining C5-Cs are being modified to C5-M with upgraded avionics and hopefully new motors. However it's still a maintenance intensive airframe. Adrianspeeder
tree68 wrote:I think there are B52 jockeys flying airplanes their grandfathers flew. When I was at Griffiss AFB, I was always amazed by the airplane's nose down angle of attack. I've been told that they tried putting four of those big turbofans you see behind AS on a B52 but the thrust was too much.
I think there are B52 jockeys flying airplanes their grandfathers flew. When I was at Griffiss AFB, I was always amazed by the airplane's nose down angle of attack. I've been told that they tried putting four of those big turbofans you see behind AS on a B52 but the thrust was too much.
For sure grandson crews on both the B52 and C5. The 8 TF33's are horribly inefficient, and the costs of remotoring with four RB211's were compaired to not be worth it. But wait, they screwed up, (what the air force mess up a budget contract? Nawww...) and it actually would pay off, so it could still happen. Not to much thrust at all and would make the 52 highly capible for another 50 years. Long live the Big Ugly Fat Fu.... Hey lunch is ready.
locomutt wrote:The Army has to rely on the Air Force every so often to get their equipment to certain locations!
The Army has to rely on the Air Force every so often to get their equipment to certain locations!
Or every day, lol. "USAF: Coverin' the Army's tail since 1947".
Modelcar wrote: ....Adrian: Do you ever get to work around or with a C5A-Glaxy aircraft.....Or possibly ride in one....? I think they are the most awesome aircraft I've seen operate. Edit: Just noticed your C-5 comment....What's the problem with them.....?
....Adrian: Do you ever get to work around or with a C5A-Glaxy aircraft.....Or possibly ride in one....?
I think they are the most awesome aircraft I've seen operate.
Edit: Just noticed your C-5 comment....What's the problem with them.....?
It is awesome in the fact it can get off the ground. Testament to my maintenance friends on that side of the shop.
You want really awesome? Take a plane a bit smaller than the C5, fully freight it, and have it do F-16 type manuvers. The capabilities designed into the 17 are amazing. Tactical takeoffs/landings, 3000ft long / 90ft wide dirt runway ability to rival the C130, electronic flight controls for off the chart relyability, and it does it with over twice the efficiency.
An equal comparison is a '08 shortbox crew cab one ton diesel vs a '75 smallblock chevy longbox. Sure the '75 can work, but at cost.
I work around C5's when they park next too us, but I swear the gremlins jump off and try to play with us. Not really interested in ridin' one either. Also all the C5As have been retired/scrapped, the remaining C5-Cs are being modified to C5-M with upgraded avionics and hopefully new motors. However it's still a maintenance intensive airframe.
YEAH; IT WAS THE U.S. ARMY AIR CORP THEN!!
(well, up until that time.)
Ediit: Q, I belive the original Globemasters were designated C-119s and were called
"Flying Boxcars". I had a cousin (distant) that used to fly them; and he was killed in a mid-air collision years ago while flying one of them.
Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
.....Walt....The "Flying boxcars" were 2 engined planes with double long extended tails and tied together with rudders and horizonal parts....and indeed they were "119's" and they were around the same time the "Globemasters" I speak of were.....It's possible, but {and certainly I'm not an authority on it}, I never remember "Globemaster" being applied to them.
I do remember they were at the Seoul airport in Korea {as we were heading to R&R in Japan}, and we were commenting, hoping it was not going to be one of them to ride on.....They would seemingly run almost the whole length of the runway before lifting off the ground..!
Tom
COAST LINE FOREVER
It is better to dwell in the corner of a roof than to share a house with a contentious woman! (Solomon)
A contentious woman is like a constant dripping! (Solomon)
Tom , the Douglas ( Dakota c47- R4d - Goony ) or any other bird was and still is a great aircraft and can only be replaced by another of the same. One story comes to mind of a DC2 So shot full of holes by unfriendly guys , it continued to fly sounding like a screaming Mimie. Long live the old bird.
Respectfully, Cannonball
Y6bs evergreen in my mind
Hi Cannonball! Where have you been lately? Seems like awhile since I've seen you in here. How are you and Shirl doing? All right, I hope!
I'm a tad bit early for our Saturday Night Pizza Fest, but here is tonight's menu:
1. Anchovie
2. Cheese
3. Pepperoni/mushroom
4. Goetta
5. Hawaiian
6. Supreme
7. Calzones
Hope you all enjoy your pizzas/calzones tonight, and have a great evening. And Tom, glad everything is o.k. your way, as far as the weather is concerned.
.....Some years ago we had to travel back and forth from here to Chicago {for my company}, and we used a commuter air line {Lake Central}, here in Muncie to make that trip back and forth for a while...
Along the way they actually were using DC-3's.....and I rode them quite a few times. Sometimes in the winter it would be dark on the way back and riding along I could see the carbon and or sparks of some kind blasting out of the engine exhausts, but didn't seem to bother me very much as I have been around since they {the planes}, were born, and all the talk that followed them and I had the same feelings for those old birds....It dosen't matter, it can fly regarding whatever it's doing. Plenty of rattling and banging too.
Actually, make that three iterations of the Globemaster:
The C-124 used to be nicknamed "Old Shakey"
Those C124's defined "drone" when they took off. Sure carried a lot of stuff, though.
Survived my first tour of duty as conductor of record. All the passengers, crew, and equipment made it back to the station in one piece.
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Modelcar wrote:.....Walt....The "Flying boxcars" were 2 engined planes with double long extended tails and tied together with rudders and horizonal parts....and indeed they were "119's" and they were around the same time the "Globemasters" I speak of were.....It's possible, but {and certainly I'm not an authority on it}, I never remember "Globemaster" being applied to them. I do remember they were at the Seoul airport in Korea {as we were heading to R&R in Japan}, and we were commenting, hoping it was not going to be one of them to ride on.....They would seemingly run almost the whole length of the runway before lifting off the ground..!
I stand/sit corrected on giving that aircraft that designation, I was wrong.
tree68 wrote: Those C124's defined "drone" when they took off. Sure carried a lot of stuff, though.Survived my first tour of duty as conductor of record. All the passengers, crew, and equipment made it back to the station in one piece.
She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw
good morning
Cw thanks for saving us some leftover pizza.We had a great day at deshler.Matt and I were tired when we got home.Mookie there is a bluebonnet "B" unit coming back home to you.We saw it in deshler but there was a UP powder river coal train that came by it.But the other surprises were a K803 with up power turning south on the toledo sub and a Loram badger ditcher going to Lima.Juice coffee and rolls are ready to go.
stay safe
Joe
Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").
Daggone it!! I went to bed a few minutes too early last night, didn't I?!?! Missed out on the chocolate cake, durn it. Oh well, I'll just have a slice of chocolate cake w/my breakfast.
Good Sunday morning, everyone. It's a very pleasant morning: temp is about 66 degrees, and looking for a high around 85, 86, with cloudy conditions this morning, and some sun this afternoon.
Coffee, juice (s), and other beverages are ready; and on the breakfast bar, you'll find turkey bacon, sausage, pancakes, scrambled eggs, cinnamon rolls and muffins.
Sunday Dinner today will be:
1. beef stew w/cornbread, fresh sliced tomatoes
2. country fried steak w/mashed taters, gravy, green beans and corn.
You all have a great morning, and I'll be around here somewhere (you never know where I'll be 'hiding').
......65 degrees now, and very light rain....very light. But we're told it will be off and on until about noon. That was the forecast last night.
We do need the rain, for sure.
Hope it stopped {raining}, down in Virginia for today as our Nascar race was posponed...{all activity}, for yesterday and the Sprint race scheduled for today. Important race as the results from it decides who runs for the "gold" the next 10 races. Qualifying was rained out so they line up in order of current points.
Looked like the last of Hanna was up over New England last night. Neighbors have a summer home in N H, so I'd bet they were in the middle of it.
For today: Start on here....Church.....Lunch....and then Nascar.
A good Sunday for all.
Brian (IA) http://blhanel.rrpicturearchives.net.
....Not that much Brian. But Hendrick is the group I root for.
Believe I've seen a young man interviewed recently but really don't remember the name. Seems they were excited about the young man up and coming to one day fill in, in the Sprint series.
Yes, Jimmy, Gordon and Earnhardt are the ones I favor....There are lots of good fellows on the circuit but these have been the teams I've rooted for, for quite a while.
Hope the weather clears to allow the event to run today....Should be a good one on the smallish track with some banking and quite a few hot teams competing for a slot to run for the "gold".
Good morning, folks. I just got up here and at the moment we have a cloudy, overcast sky here in Sioux Falls and our temp is at 53.4 degrees. It rained here yesterday, and we have a 60% chance of precipitation tomorrow. I've got roughly three hours to kill before I head for work this morning.
I was up kind of late last night, a very nice young lady in Louisville called me last night, and we were on the phone yakking with each other for at least an hour and a half. I sure enjoy my conversations with Sarah. I told her that I will try calling her again in November.
Ray ooo ooo ooOOOOOo
CW , we have been busy lately runnin' back & forth to the ( dispatcher / doctor ) for suspected illness?? , by doctors??. We felt better when we were on the road. Maybe we should hit the road again. Certain freight rates have gone up, due to fuel surcharge.~~~~~ Maybe~~~ where is Rattler hidin' . However, we are in good shape for bein'in the shape were' in. We still hit the rails on 10-6 for Ohio. A different change , to see the highway from the rails. Izzat you fryin' taters and pork chops with snap beans w/ corn cake??? ~~~~ my my, larapin good. For now, just waitin' for more ( cartoons) from doctor doctor LOL LOL Ahhhhh life is good .
Respectfully, Cannonball & Shirl
Good Monday morning, everyone. We've got a pleasant 66 degrees this morning, and going for a high in the mid 80s, with the muggies.
Coffee, juices, lemonade and hot water for tea are all ready. On the breakfast warmer bar, you'll find: BLTs, oatmeal, toast, bagels and bear claws this morning.
Today is "doctor day" for me, a visit with my primary care doctor. So, I'm not sure if I'll be back in time to get lunch ready. So, if one of you could take care of that for me, I'd really appreciate that.
You all have a good morning, and I'll see you all later.
.....A bright {to be}, sunny morning....Clear sky and at 7 am, 59 degrees. Should be a real nice day. Maybe A/C season is coming to an end. We really can have nice weather in Sept. and many times in Oct. Blue sky days and low humidity, etc....cool nights.
Best wishes to all in this new week.
Modelcar wrote: Maybe A/C season is coming to an end.
No A/C at my house, but I did notice that my furnace was running this morning. Must be because I left the window out of the back storm door...
No wonder the stock market is up with all the doctor appointments! Keep the economy going, good people!
It's been raining! We are pleased! Pretty stiff wind out of north this afternoon and they say..... 41 degrees tonite? Forget covering the plants - gonna cover Mookie with a couple of blankets! Ah the 5th season - sumall.
Lunch today should be a picnic on the porch - fried chix (sorry MC), corn on the cob, salad of choice, usual asst of beverages and lots of napkins. Watermelon and choc cake! Ok, I got mine!
Yo Joe - going back to your bluebonnet B unit - I just saw one of ours the other day - but they are all the old GN green and black 60's B units. Send yours. We need some variety.
Mook
mookie
should be on its way.we'll keep our eyes open for others.time for a nap.sounds like the dispatcher gave a slow order for FC.
joe
Yeah, my dr. appointment was a regular follow-up appt., and spent two hours and 10, 15 minutes before I was even called to the back, and then to an exam room. Everything o.k.: bp was 122/70, and I've lost five pounds since my last visit to him. Mutt and I will go to his office tomorrow, for our flu shots, then I don't have to go back for another visit until 12/08/08. But, next Wednesday, the 17th, I go back to the surgeon for my one year after surgery visit.
Mookie, you lunch menu sounds pretty good: think I'll continue that for tonight's supper, along with freshly made (on the stove top now, simmering) beef stew, and will make some cornbread in a couple of hours to have with the stew. Everything should be ready for you guys and gals to eat at around 6:45, 7:00 p.m. EDT.
Supposed to have some rain coming in later tonight. Not sure exactly what time frame it is supposed to be in, but will continue on into tomorrow morning, sometime.
Have a good afternoon (what's left of it, here on the East side of the country, and see you all later.
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