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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:05 PM

Tree - Federal Firefighter - never heard of that before.  Care to explain? 

Southwest is good - I can practice my yodel!

I think some of our city fire and rescue personnel headed to FL area from LA.  They seem to be dispatched quite a bit.

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Posted by locomutt on Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:09 PM
 Mookie wrote:
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 Mookie wrote:

 Had to dope up "sniffles" after he came home from work today.  Talked to several other people that are having the same problem.  Going to be a long fall!

 

Hammock/couch look busy.  Guess I will check out the Sears catalogue and see about ordering that new recliner.  Will charge it to diner.....CW r u listening?  Mischief [:-,]



 

You must have sent "Sneezy" in this direction,  that's all I've done for the past half hour.

 


She assured me she Was listening, and said to order one for her.

Send bill to Bergie; in care of Trains.com Mischief [:-,]

  Keep tissues/nose drier pills/and cof meds close at hand.  Sleep sitting up and wear a gas mask when you go outside! 

If I send the bill to Bergie, he will come to the diner and nail me to the recliner....must think of something else to do with the bill.  Maybe build my own.  I hear Sir Chicken has some extra lumber and da Boyz would help!  Model Car has a motor I could borrow (let the grass grow....) and a blanket from Tree's spare bedroom (Mom went home).  As soon as Dan gets all his wedding gifts, I can get a recliner from them!  Approve [^]

Well, I have a hard time sleeping while sitting up, but guess I can try.

Not sure about the gas mask, haven't found a military surplus store around here that sells them.

 

We need to find out where Dan and Misty are registered; CW and I could have used

a recliner 21+ years ago.We had to go out and buy our Her own.


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Posted by tree68 on Thursday, September 4, 2008 9:51 PM

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Tree - Federal Firefighter - never heard of that before.  Care to explain? 

Certainly.  Uncle Sam signs his paycheck (figuratively, anyhow).

He and his co-workers are little different from any other firefighter, except they work for the federal government.  In my son's case, the Navy.

Civilian firefighters protect most military installations (the military firefighters are often subject to deployment so can't be completely relied upon to be available), as well as some other large federal facilities.

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, September 4, 2008 11:22 PM
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 Mookie wrote:
Tree - Federal Firefighter - never heard of that before.  Care to explain? 

Certainly.  Uncle Sam signs his paycheck (figuratively, anyhow).

He and his co-workers are little different from any other firefighter, except they work for the federal government.  In my son's case, the Navy.

Civilian firefighters protect most military installations (the military firefighters are often subject to deployment so can't be completely relied upon to be available), as well as some other large federal facilities.

ok, I think I can follow that.  So is that his main job with Navy - as firefighter?

 

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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, September 5, 2008 6:21 AM

Good Friday morning, everyone.  Guess what?!?!?!  We're getting rain here in Louisville this morning!!  A very nice, slow, gentle rain.  And our temp is around 71, 72 degrees this morning.  High today:  about 80, according to the weather guessers.  

Coffee, juice(s), milk,  (chocolate milk, strawberry milk) and hot water for tea are all ready and available this morning.

On the counter, this morning, you'll find a good variety of doughnuts, danishes, muffins, bagels, bear claws, along with cantaloupe and watermelon chunks, that are in the cooler, behind the counter.  

You all have a great morning!

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Posted by JoeKoh on Friday, September 5, 2008 6:56 AM

good morning-happy friday

our ns train made an engine disappear overnight.maybe thats why they were stopped.Matt is on time today and on his way to school.Defiance goes to auglaize county tonight to play football.The weather guessers say the rain should be out of the area by tonight.70's for the weekend.time for a nap.

stay safe

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, September 5, 2008 7:08 AM

......72 degrees about an hour ago here, and we've had a bit of light rain overnight.  All needed badly.  Might even have to do a yard mowing today or tomorrow if it dries off....

Jen up at 12:22 am......!  Looks like she is getting that routine modified from what it had been....That's just about my routine bedtime....maybe a bit later.

Dark and cloudy this morning but that's what it takes to get some moisture thru here and more is certainly needed.  Looks like the next big weather situation might be "Ike".....Florida seems to be near it's target.

And Friday is upon us again...Hardly noticable by us retirees but I'm sure working folks still take note.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Friday, September 5, 2008 7:15 AM

Welllll hello there. At present. 70 and cloudy in Carolina. Charleston radar is beginning to show counterclockwise flow a ways out to sea, so I guess Hanna is coming. It is supposed to pass east of Little River Inlet, near the NC line, and may well hit Wilmington. According to the boffins, we should see 25 MPH wind at Florence, along with rain. Ike, on the other hand, is tracking toward Miami with 140 MPH winds. Not good!!! We expect a high of 83 today, along with more lightning, and Hanna to pass by around 0200 tomorrow. Everybody take care

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Friday, September 5, 2008 7:21 AM

I'm glad to hear that you are finally getting some rain in your part of the country, CW. And from what the Weather Underground tells me, your temp should max out at about 79 or 80 degrees.

It's a little dry here in South Dakota, but cool. Right now we have 55.9 degrees and it's supposed to get up to about 65 this afternoon. Our annual Sidewalk Arts Festival in Sioux Falls is to be held tomorrow, and the high here will be around 67 or 68 but with a 30% chance of rain.

I can hear the Ellis & Eastern Railroad coming in from the west, they are probably going after some loads of crushed quartzite or other aggregate. The Ellis & Eastern is owned by Concrete Materials and they operate over trackage which was originally laid in 1893 by the Rock Island. They run past Wendy's, and when they blow the horns for the Minnesota Avenue crossing, it's always a source of frustration for the girls who are wearing headphones,Headphones [{(-_-)}] especially those who are working the pickup window, as you can't hear anything!

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, September 5, 2008 7:23 AM

....Tom, you sure seem to receive lots of lightning....I see you mention it quite often.  We've really not had much of that for some time now, but than we haven't had much of any weather systems thru here for weeks and weeks.

I note the Georgia water supply is still a critical subject.  Perhaps the approaching weather systems will at least help that cause.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Friday, September 5, 2008 7:47 AM

Yes, Quentin. Beginning sometime, in March usually, but no later than April, we have thunderstorm watches and warnings on a daily basis. I remember one year, 1994 I believe, we were under a thunderstorm watch for the whole month of April, and around 5 PM every day, we had a storm pass through. Usually, around 1 April or so, I disconnect my antennas and ground the rotor cables until September or so, and use the wireless on an as needed basis. Three years ago, a storm snuck up on me and burned up the entire station. PTL the insurance was good and replaced it all, but I take no chances now.

This current storm track has shifted slightly and may hit Myrtle beach. It has wobbled east and west for the past 36 hours... Anyway, we should not get hit too bad. They say 25-40 MPH winds and rain. Maybe the upper state reservoirs that feed Atlanta's water will benefit from all this activity currently going on.  C U

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Posted by adrianspeeder on Friday, September 5, 2008 8:20 AM

Why I like my job.

 

On days when there ain't guidance and control issues occupying my time and I get to play crew chief on a launch.  I find it satisfying standin' by on the startup of four 42000lbs of thrust per motor Pratt and Whitney F117 goodness.  Plus it makes a cool photo...



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Posted by Mookie on Friday, September 5, 2008 8:28 AM
Adrian:  Big aren't they!  Used to watch the B52's do touch and go's at Oklahoma AFB in the 60's - something that big doing t & g.  I was so impressed!

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Posted by locomutt on Friday, September 5, 2008 8:28 AM
 adrianspeeder wrote:

Why I like my job.

 

On days when there ain't guidance and control issues occupying my time and I get to play crew chief on a launch.  I find it satisfying standin' by on the startup of four 42000lbs of thrust per motor Pratt and Whitney F117 goodness.  Plus it makes a cool photo...



Adrianspeeder

Adrian, nice picture!

Is that a C-5 or a C-17?

And don't get too close to the intakes of those engines!

(and don't even think about using one of them in one of your trucks!)

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Posted by adrianspeeder on Friday, September 5, 2008 9:03 AM

It's the slightly smaller C17 compared to the larger, but mostly junk, C5.  At idle ya are good to walk up right to the engine.  Full power or even worse, thrust reversers for backing up, will suck a golf ball through a garden hose.

 

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Posted by locomutt on Friday, September 5, 2008 9:26 AM

 Mookie wrote:
Adrian:  Big aren't they!  Used to watch the B52's do touch and go's at Oklahoma AFB in the 60's - something that big doing t & g.  I was so impressed!

 

Humm, they are very big; you should see one of them go underneath your helicopter.

There are/were several low level flight routes here in Ky. for the B-52s; we'd be at

about 1000 feet and one of them would fly underneath.

 

(I won't make any comments to their "nickname"; BUFF)

 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, September 5, 2008 10:19 AM

I think there are B52 jockeys flying airplanes their grandfathers flew.   When I was at Griffiss AFB, I was always amazed by the airplane's nose down angle of attack.  I've been told that they tried putting four of those big turbofans you see behind AS on a B52 but the thrust was too much.

The C5 dates back to the 70's and my tenure in USAF, so it's possible that there could be some father/son matchups there.

Don't dis the C5 too much - it's still one of the biggest airplanes flying.  Had one at our airshow here this summer.  You can drive a tank right straight through.

Tinker AFB in Oklahoma City was (and probably is still) the repair depot for B52's and KC135's.  They'd move them in one of of the mile-long building, and they'd come out the other end all fixed up....

 

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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, September 5, 2008 12:11 PM

Friday Fish Fry Menu:

1.  Cod

2.  Perch

3.  Bass

4.  Catfish

5.  Rolled oysters

6.  Butterfly shrimp 

Side dishes:

1.  corn on the cob; 2.  baked beans; 3.  fries; 4.  hushpuppies; 5.  cole slaw

Desserts:

The following pies:  1.  chocolate; 2.  apple; 3.  peach; 4.  pecan

 

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Posted by tree68 on Friday, September 5, 2008 1:02 PM

 Mookie wrote:
So is that his main job with Navy - as firefighter?

That is his job with the Navy.  24 on, 24 off, with the occasional extra day off thrown in. 

 

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Posted by locomutt on Friday, September 5, 2008 1:15 PM

I've seen the C-5s up close; C-17s are new to me; I've flown on C-130s and C-141Bs.

The Army has to rely on the Air Force every so often to get their equipment to certain locations!

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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, September 5, 2008 6:18 PM
 cherokee woman wrote:

Friday Fish Fry Menu:

1.  Cod

2.  Perch

3.  Bass

4.  Catfish

5.  Rolled oysters

6.  Butterfly shrimp 

Side dishes:

1.  corn on the cob; 2.  baked beans; 3.  fries; 4.  hushpuppies; 5.  cole slaw

Desserts:

The following pies:  1.  chocolate; 2.  apple; 3.  peach; 4.  pecan

 

The warmer bar has been refreshed for tonight's round of our Friday Fish Fry.

Hope you all enjoy your supper, and I also hope you all have a good evening.

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Posted by Modelcar on Friday, September 5, 2008 7:43 PM

....Adrian:  Do you ever get to work around or with a C5A-Glaxy aircraft.....Or possibly ride in one....?

I think they are the most awesome aircraft I've seen operate.

Edit:  Just noticed your C-5 comment....What's the problem with them.....?

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Posted by JoeKoh on Saturday, September 6, 2008 5:48 AM

good morning

juice coffee and lemonade are ready to go.We have eggs toast and sausage coming up.going to deshler today.we have a canadian foamer staying this week.will be back late for pizza.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by cherokee woman on Saturday, September 6, 2008 5:58 AM

Good Saturday morning to Joe and all the rest of you!  It's a very pleasant morning, with around 66, 67 degrees, and our high today is only supposed to get to about 79, maybe 80 by 5, 6 p.m.

I'm hearing on our local news that Hana has made landfall in the Carolinas.  I hope all our forum friends, and all the others along the coast are all right this morning.  Let's all keep them in our thoughts today.

Joe, thanks so much for getting breakfast this morning.  Sausage, eggs & toast sound pretty good this morning.  You all have a great time in Deshler, and keep safe, now, all right?

Wishing you all a safe Saturday, and everyone take care, please.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Saturday, September 6, 2008 7:18 AM

Good morning, it's Saturday! Having survived Hanna, it is described by one local TV station as a non-event. Very little wind, but a lot of rain tho. We had a leak around the chimney that dripped badly and annoyed the wife no end. The roofer said he would be here later to track down the problem. On a related note, the track for Ike shows it headed for New Orleans. That place seems to attract those things like a magnet.

Everybody take care

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, September 6, 2008 7:37 AM

....I was wondering about you and your area Tom, but you sound like it was just a heavy weather system with massive rain.....Now, as you say the other one....and again, headed into the Gulf.

What's up with such a pattern....?  We didn't seem to hear of such repeatable action before a few years ago with Katrina.  Wonder what's different now...?  Too many oil rigs in the Gulf....

I note with all the demand for oil being reduced and comparing the 4 dollar plus / gal. of gasoline and what crude was, and how much it has come down...we should be seeing roughly an 80 cent reduction in gasoline prices.  Not so around here.  Some, but not near that much.  Funny, it slips up so fast, but can't seem to fall back that easy.

Bright and light clouds and blue sky and sunshine this morning...62 degrees in the last half hour.  Wondering whether to open up the windows....Probably can.

Good weekend to all....

Oh yes Tom....Those leaks around chimneys....They always seem to be a bit difficult to overcome.  Never had such problem...No chimney....all electric.  Guess that's one way to cure it.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Saturday, September 6, 2008 8:07 AM
Quentin, thanks for the reply. Actually, there wasn't all that much rain total. Just very heavy at times. I live in a low spot, as spots go, and a heavy rain will fill the ditch to the top. None is visible in the ditch. The leak was on both sides of the chimney, and I am toying with the idea of having the thing taken out and roofed over. It is a faux chimney and is decorative only. The fireplace is designed for gas logs and will never have a wood fire, so the loss would be negligible. I agree about the change in weather patterns. When I was growing up, a major hurricane was a rarity and those names are remembered distinctly. Now, they are regular occurrences, often in the same areas, and the names blend together. A sign of the end times....

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Posted by adrianspeeder on Saturday, September 6, 2008 9:28 AM
 tree68 wrote:

I think there are B52 jockeys flying airplanes their grandfathers flew.   When I was at Griffiss AFB, I was always amazed by the airplane's nose down angle of attack.  I've been told that they tried putting four of those big turbofans you see behind AS on a B52 but the thrust was too much.

For sure grandson crews on both the B52 and C5.  The 8 TF33's are horribly inefficient, and the costs of remotoring with four RB211's were compaired to not be worth it.  But wait, they screwed up, (what the air force mess up a budget contract? Nawww...) and it actually would pay off, so it could still happen.  Not to much thrust at all and would make the 52 highly capible for another 50 years.  Long live the Big Ugly Fat Fu....  Hey lunch is ready.

 

 locomutt wrote:

The Army has to rely on the Air Force every so often to get their equipment to certain locations!

Or every day, lol.  "USAF: Coverin' the Army's tail since 1947".

 

 Modelcar wrote:

....Adrian:  Do you ever get to work around or with a C5A-Glaxy aircraft.....Or possibly ride in one....?

I think they are the most awesome aircraft I've seen operate.

Edit:  Just noticed your C-5 comment....What's the problem with them.....?

 

It is awesome in the fact it can get off the ground.  Testament to my maintenance friends on that side of the shop. 

 

You want really awesome?  Take a plane a bit smaller than the C5, fully freight it, and have it do F-16 type manuvers.  The capabilities designed into the 17 are amazing.  Tactical takeoffs/landings, 3000ft long / 90ft wide dirt runway ability to rival the C130, electronic flight controls for off the chart relyability, and it does it with over twice the efficiency.  

An equal comparison is a '08 shortbox crew cab one ton diesel vs a '75 smallblock chevy longbox.  Sure the '75 can work, but at cost.

 

I work around C5's when they park next too us, but I swear the gremlins jump off and try to play with us.  Not really interested in ridin' one either.  Also all the C5As have been retired/scrapped, the remaining C5-Cs are being modified to C5-M with upgraded avionics and hopefully new motors.  However it's still a maintenance intensive airframe.

 

 

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Posted by Willy2 on Saturday, September 6, 2008 9:38 AM

Tom and Quentin,

This table from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration lists the 65 major (Category 3 or higher) hurricanes that have made landfall in the United States from 1900 to 1999. It is interesting to note that 35 of those 65 major hurricanes hit the United States before 1950. Thus, there has not been an increase in the number of major hurricane hits to the United States in recent years.

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/Table4.htm

The table is a link off of this very informative page:

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/index.html

Plus, in both 2006 and 2007, not a single major hurricane struck the United States. The United States has not been hit by a major hurricane this year either (although we have been hit by numerous weaker tropical storms and hurricanes). Thus, it really can't be said that we've seen an increase in major hurricane strikes since Katrina either.

The reason that it seems that major hurricanes were rare through the mid 1900s and even into the late 1900s is simple: the media was not nearly as dramatic as it is now. Back then, you didn't have 100 reporters standing out in the 130 mph winds and screaming at the top of their lungs that the sky is falling. Now, it seems that even a tropical storm with 40 mph winds brings out that behavior.

Just keeping it real here.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, September 6, 2008 9:51 AM

....Adrian:

I'm not familiar with what the "17's" are....believe from what your comments are, it's a bit larger and maybe more capable than the  "130's" have been....That sounds pretty good.

My only experience of watching a C5 perform {up close}, has been at the Ft. Wayne {In}, airport some years ago.  Watched it taxi to the take off position on the runway and turn around and go full throttle and I couldn't believe my eyes the size if it rolling down the runway and lifting off in such a short run, in a surprisingly steep angle before it got to where the runways cross....half way....and then make a wide sweeping turn and fly right back down the same runway {with flaps hanging down}, it just lifted off from, but just several hundred ft. high.....What a sight....!!  And sound. 

Quentin

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