Lee,
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I guess that would be about three and half hours from Pittsburgh. But that's not a big problem. Just gotta love retirement.
Tom
Pittsburgh, PA
Garry- Nothing wrong with TYCO (though it doesn't sound like there's much TYCO left of those cars) I've got a few myself.Coming from me however, that probably isn't much. I did the same thing as you with the feeders to the rail joiners. I haven't soldered the joiners to the rails yet because with the way things are going I'm not real sure the track will stay were it is. That is in my future plans and I hope with my heavy handedness I won't heat the joiners with the feeders up enough to release the feeders. I didn't think of that when I did it. Maybe I'll skip those and see what happens. My original layout that was found in the garage never was soldered and it ran fine once I got it hooked up again what 30 years later. Had to clean the tops of the rails but the connections were fine. I'm not really anticipating a whole lot of issues.
Worst case, I suppose is I'll release some feeders and have to relocate them to the sides like Ray has. I'm gonna try the real quick method like he said, (I do it quick, but not that quick. Of course on a joiner by itself, I don't have ties to melt.) and hope the joiner and the rail get adhered to. If it doesn't work, keep at it I guess. Not like it's gonna get done tomorrow.
Lee- I like toggle switches. I remember as a kid seeing these big boards on the layouts in the magazines and saying "That's so cool. Someday I want that" Now, well I forsee myself in DCC after a while. Not for sound or all that stuff but for ease of having several trains on the tracks but only one running without figuring how to get one from pont A to point B without another loco starting up.
Todd
Central Illinoyz
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Hi Guys!
Nothing now, please...watching those "holiday pounds" add up! Even Turkey soup has calories.
Speaking or Turkey soup RYAN- I left out turnips and peas as neither I nor my other half like them, and left out the oregano as my other half dislikes that too, but basically the same. My other half suggested the soup, which I ran away with as a way to finish off the turkey as my other half is not usually fond of soup at all.
Had PT today, oh what a grand feeling it was to have someone so dedicated working on the kinks in my back!!!!!!!!! Tomorrow back to my hands for PT.
HAving ham dinner tonight, {ham, glazed carrots, creamy garlic shells or "smashed potatoes"- potatoes smashed up a bit with sour cream and chives incorporated- taste like twice baked taters} though as HAVE to get away from eating Bird somehow.
How is JEFF doing I wonder?
ROBBY- great work as always I'm a bit jealous of you as you have the space to have good sized layout.
RAY great tutorial on the wonders of soldering feeders.
It's supposed to be some dern cold end of week, here....I don't mind it BUT...here we go again with the frozen bathtub drain as below 20* it likes to freeze up. Time to open the cupboard doors on teh bath and kit sinks and put in the creens so the cats can't play so they don't freeze.
to the rest have a great rest of the day!
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Looks like we are under a winter storm watch Tuesday night - Wednesday morning. JUST GREAT !!! Calling for some ice, and snow. Maybe it will change.
Galaxy.........Thanks, but a "bathroom" almost stopped the expansion. My layout was a 8x12, and I wanted to expand it to 12x13. Then a bathroom (not even close to being finished) was in the way. The wife and I went back and forth on it. Finally she said to make enough room to get to it. Now this bath room is maybe 1% done, but it seems like the wife seen it at 100% done. Who knows????
Here's some shots of the new layout (well a few months old now).
The old layout (before the expansion).
"Rust, whats not to love?"
"Coffee coffee please.. I'd need something to warm me up.. ah thanks Chloe" Woot.. it is pouring cats and dogs out here. It never rains in California..but when it does.. its pouring rain.
Todd, just off hand.. it was many years ago when I had metal shop. Lets turn on the 'Way Back Machine' (rocky and bullwinkle) lol.. to the year 1968. The place, my old High school. Back then we did it all. even arch welding. But just off hand, just guessing .. I'd say.. I'd place the heat on top.. furthest away from the plastic and have the tip of the solder at some location near the joiner but slightly above touching the rail. Holding it there.. I'd say.. till ya see it melt.. and at that moment.. that very second.. I'll be wishing no more heat. And hopefully pulled the guy away in time. I doubt having a cloth or wire brush would be fast enough. I think I read some where here in the forums.. to get solder.. with a higher tin percentage for more flexibility? ah.. coffee
Robby, awesome work on that roof.
Pounded through this monday. Was just flat-out tired. Good news is I should hopefully have plenty of projects for over the break this Christmas.
Sawyer Berry
Clemson University c/o 2018
Building a protolanced industrial park layout
Ray and Todd, thanks so much.. this is very helpful. So .. 1/2 a second. eh? Not much room for margin of error? Not something I can have Jeanne do? Ok.. Jeanne.. I want you to hold this for a 1/2 second.. no more .. no less.. "Doh Jeanne~!" As if my re-action time is that good. I better make sure I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed with a cup of coffee. Oh hey.. practice on some old track.. who'd ever guess.. .. yeah. why not. No harm no foul. I'm catching up on my reading.. but I'm hoping we've heard from Jeff.. and how's he doing.? I must admit.. I'm getting the itch to start laying tract. My wife is a very patient person.. but she'll put every thing away .. in just a couple of weeks... for the holidays. I've got some track laid out.. and with joiners.. its only a matter of getting the nerve to post a pic.
Keith
Blazzin Ray and Todd, thanks so much.. this is very helpful. So .. 1/2 a second. eh? Not much room for margin of error? Not something I can have Jeanne do? Ok.. Jeanne.. I want you to hold this for a 1/2 second.. no more .. no less.. "Doh Jeanne~!" As if my re-action time is that good. I better make sure I'm bright eyed and bushy tailed with a cup of coffee. Oh hey.. practice on some old track.. who'd ever guess.. .. yeah. why not. No harm no foul. I'm catching up on my reading.. but I'm hoping we've heard from Jeff.. and how's he doing.? I must admit.. I'm getting the itch to start laying tract. My wife is a very patient person.. but she'll put every thing away .. in just a couple of weeks... for the holidays. I've got some track laid out.. and with joiners.. its only a matter of getting the nerve to post a pic. Keith
LOL! Kieth as soon as the solder "flows" (you will see it) you are done. Remove the heat. The time depends on many factors too numerous to list here, but it happens very quickly if everything is ready, and the iron is placed in the right spot.......
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Wow Robby .. I am impressed. Whew.. thats quite the size.. way to go. Say .. you need some extra HO stuff. ? I've got a few cars around here.. and some buidlings. Let me know.~ keith
BlazzinI'm catching up on my reading.. but I'm hoping we've heard from Jeff.. and how's he doing.?
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Good Evening--
all done with all those Honey do's and honey buys---so now I get to do my MR stuff for the next few days I have off----heeheehee
Jeff: I can see why one does not get much done----that pain is really something else--
Chloe, I'll just have a coffee for now please---I'll be at the RC
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Rather quiet in here tonight Chloe or is everyone asleep?
If you would like them to wake up quickly, just open the door and let in some of that cool, crisp Winterpeg air I brought with me. What? You don't like -1F with a 13 windchill? Where's your sense of adventure? Besides I could wait until later tonight when it will be -15F. That ought to get their attention. But wait, I forgot to mention that it is a dry cold. Feels better already.
I've been reading the talk about soldering and must say that I first did it with a lot of trepidation. I wanted to install a decoder so I went out and bought a 30w iron that I had read was ideal for modelling. I quickly melted whatever I was practising on and didn't like the liquid wire insulation it created. I then found an old 15w iron I've had for many years but doubt I had ever used before. I find it ideal for the fine wires used with decoders. I'm far from any expert but that was my experience as a novice in soldering.
I did go down to Thief River Falls over the weekend to visit our friends there. We had a great time as usual. You often here a lot of negatives about the border officers but I have to say that the U.S. customs where we cross are usually efficient if not actually friendly. One of the guards gave our dogs milk bone treats while another looked into the trunk. They then started to joke about another guard who has the same breed of dogs that we do. We were all laughing as I pulled away.
And now back to another work week of trying to keep busy and also warm. I have an electric heater under my desk which I suppose I don't really need but it does make the office cosy to the point of drowsiness. I must make sure I don't drop off as that really wouldn't look very good. It does help keep me a little more mellow so that I don't lose my temper too much with the idiots I sometimes work with. What ever happened to a little logical thought or at least common sense?
I really doubt that I'll get much done on the RR until after Christmas as we are hosting the family dinner this year. There will only be 8 of us but my wife puts a lot of effort and time into making the dinner special so as chief go-fer and dogs body, I will have a lot to do too.
Anyway it's getting late so I best say good-night one and all,
CN Charlie
(chuckle) Keith- I hope I didn't make it sound horrible. I didn't mean too. I'm no instructor, but I have taught a few things in Uncle Sams little mess. I usually point out the worst and when people try it they find out it's not that bad, but at least they expect the bad as opposed to hearing the good and ignoring the bad. In my experience and it's not at all the only or maybe the recommended way, when I tell people they could lose a hand they seem to pay more attention to what they are doing than if I don't. I'd rather them be cautious knowing what could happen, than to jump in and lose the the old pointing finger. If you've brazed before you've soldered. Just with a flame. The same concept applies. After reading what Ray says, if anything disagrees with what I said..... Do what Ray says. You've seen is work. I haven't really had too much experience with soldering rails attached meer hairs from plastic. Yes test track is the way to go. I'll do it myself when the time comes to solder my joiners. I don't want a million melted ties and stakes.
Prayers for those in need.
Good Evening, Chloe - sheesh, I miss a day or two and then I have to do some rapid skimming and posting! I'll need a bowl of chili with some grated cheese, and a glass of milk, please. Oh yes, a RBF for dessert, too. Thank you!
Ulrich, depending on how tall your clearance under the son's bed would be, you could have detachable legs and slide the layout under the bed, perhaps? Nah, wouldn't be able to have much height for buildings... The Murphy bed sounds like a possibility, or the one you mentioned of something to fit across bookcase tops (and I guess put it in the attic when the son is going to be there? Hmm, how can you bribe Petra into some kind of compromise...? Sorry to hear of your parents' health problems, and will add them to the list of . Even though I'm not into narrow gauge, that new 'love of your life' looks like an excellent choice (HAVE to put that in quotes or I'll be in deep doo-doo with Petra )! Very well built - a real looker [WHAP!] Hey, Chloe, I was talking about that loco, really! (Ouch!....)
Keith - thanks for the length of your yard - now, how wide is it, and what brand of turnouts (Peco)? Or just email me your answers. Thanks.
Vincent - ouch! That's not good about the ice cube (re-)machined GP18. And I'm sure 'nobody' will admit to having moved it for you, right?
Uh, Ray... by any remote chance, Fergie (Fergmeister on here - he lives over not too far from DerJohn) wasn't at your soldering clinic, was he? I understand that once upon a time he may have learned about that soldering safety tip. I've heard, that is, y'know, don't know that for a fact... And could you email me a copy of that clinic handout, too? Please? Thanks.
All of you Diners talking about power outages are chilling me! [Brrrr!!] Keep in mind, my place is ALL-electric, and my only stove is a mini-charcoal grill (and I'm not even gonna try using that thing inside, even with the best of windage...). I have one blanket, and several pairs of socks. Not sure how many pairs of pants I could put one on top of the other. Only good thing I have going for me is, I'm on the middle floor of our 3-floor building, and my longer wall of the apartment is on the south side of the building. And then again, we're warming up to the 40's during the days lately here.
Robby - I like your 'manufacturing complex' (and the roofs on it).
Rob, sorry to hear about your FIL's apparent stroke. He's been having a tough time of things for a while.
Ah, I see Todd just gave me an idea for how to stay warm during a power outage. Wonder who in town might carry that Farrah poster?....
Well, I'm overdue to head back home tonight. Will continue catching up tomorrow morning, I hope.
Blessings and prayers,
Jim in Cape Girardeau
Good evening, waiting for the blizzard to hit. Weather Speculationists are calling for THAT white stuff which falls from the sky to start later tonight, and all day tomorrow with ever increasing winds to blow it about mightily. We're hearing up to a foot around here with steady winds of 15-30 mph, and frequent gusts to... oh my gosh...50!
My Fire Chief said he hopes its bad enough everybody just stays put...so we don't have to go out and get 'em out of the ditches. If we lose electricity, the station has a generator...we'll be baby-sitting the citizens of Clarence.
Snow day for sure for Loving Wife on Wednesday when the "big blow" will be in full force. I'm not scheduling ANY story assignments until Thursday. Fortunately, I've been busy enough I've already got three articles to write for THAT, to turn in Friday. Plus, I dropped off two others yesterday. THAT should have plenty of content.
I stopped in this morning, and after almost ten pages...I think I'm caught up. Some random thoughts:
JIM: Loving Wife and I agreed "one box" each. Now, there is no limit other than fiscal, on how many items can go into said "one box." She's getting a chess board and a book on chess, as well as a die-cast VW Beetle. She's nuts about 'em, and has well over 100 or so by now. The tiniest came from a true gentleman by the moniker of DER JOHN in fact.. I'm sure I'll add another item or two. As for the train, I've had the Lionel stuff for a few years now, since rescuing it from my parents' basement. She never said a word about wanting a train under the tree...but once she saw it, "I've always wanted a train under the tree!" WOMEN.
RAY: I like the drill a hole in the rail soldering ideer...when I finally get THAT far...I'll have to try it.
I see DC vs. DCC was raised again. I'm gonna go with old-school DC. Why? I'm only going to have one train operating at a time on what is a single-track industrial lead. IF I desire to have another train (CRANDIC, Chicago Central, or Iowa Northern) w**king, or moving through, it won't be any big deal to flip a toggle switch and kill the track the CNW switch job is on for the opposing movement to occur. Like TODD, I like the panel with the lights and toggle switches.
TYCO stuff: In the pics I saw, it looked just fine! Heck, I wouldn't have known it was except for the description. I've got an AHM flat I painted/decaled back in '86, the first such project I undertook. It now has a heavy equipment load. It will make occasional appearances on the to be built layout.
ULRICH: I see you decided against N-sane scale...don't blame you a bit on THAT. But, here's an idea Petra might go-for. I remembered seeing an article where a guy built an N-sane scale layout inside a glass-top coffee table. Just a thought... There are times I wish I'd gone with N-sane scale...but at 40, I'm already starting to have "issues" with some of the "small stuff" in HO! On the other end, I also remember seeing a book shelf layout in LGB-size. Obviously not much of a mainline run, but it had enough room to do some switching. Where there is a will, there is a way. We're still pullin' for ya.
Best wishes to all in need or suffering, or who have loved ones in need or suffering...
Chris
The Cedar cRapids Industrial Branch: Proudly Shipping Yesterday's CrunchBerries Tomorrow!
Aw, shucks, I just had typed up a lengthy post and it got lost on the way to the server
Good Morning Everyone!
Flo, may I have some coffee in my LKAB mug and a French Toast to go with it? Thank you!
Since yesterday, I am "commanded" to attend a further seminar on job integration for the elderly. It appears to be the same nonsense as last time, but the duration is now 9 weeks. What a waste of time!
On the issue of my future MRR plans, I have decided to postpone the discussion with Petra until next year. No need to rush things at a time, when we still have plenty to do to get settled in our new "home" and the necessary cash is light years away. She already starts to acknowledge the fact, that reserving a whole room for our son, who is only visiting a handful of days in a year, may be wasting precious space. So time will be working in my interest (don´t let her know)
I will make use of that time to push forward my planning - also a way to keep my sanity.
None of that white stuff in sight - temp is at 6 C and it is just wet ...
You all have a good day!
Charlie; a good solder = clean surface + flux. On track I use a stainless steel brush to clean the surface, and then I add pipe soldering flux. Tin the soldering irons then solder. With wires I dip the bare wire into the flux, tin the soldering iron and the loose wire then solder. When a stainless steel brush is used it does not imbed impurities into the metal being cleaned. The hot solder wants to chase the flux. If you touch the bare metal with your hands you may leave behind oils that will give you a poor joint.
Todd, granted my layout is far from finished, but it’s nice to have a couple friends over and just run trains without the hassles of finding the right toggle switch. There is a huge layout SE of me and they have walkie talkies and a dispatcher because it’s DC and there is a 5’ x 9’ toggle board that needs tending to in the middle of the basement just to run trains.
BM1 Lee Soule USCG (ret) L.S.&W Railroad Serving the Lower Great Lakes
Good morning all!
a toasted english muffin topped with ham, egg and cheese please, coffee too.
Have PT for my hands today. Yesterday was great on my back the PT did a thorough job as loosening it up with a massage, it just didn't last long enough, lol. It also only worked till I had to cook dinner. The leaning/bending while doing that killed the progress she made.
Posta be chilly and snowy here the next few days. about 6". I will have a devil of a time shoveling with my back in the condition it is in. I hope we don't have the frozen tub drain as we did last year this early, but with temps in the teens likely to happen. Get out the bucket to bucket out the tub after a shower! Such is the life in a trailer.
I see the postings for Christmas gifts is already going in here. I envy you guys who are getting, but we decided not much more {if any} train stuff till we get a place where we can set up and run the trains bettter than we have o now. Also it give us $$ to save toward the house, er model RRing space witha house to cover it.
LSWrr Chris, you and I are NOT 40 something, we are 20 something with 20 years experience.
Chris, you and I are NOT 40 something, we are 20 something with 20 years experience.
I agree with that!!!!
WEll, have a great day everyone!
galaxy LSWrr Chris, you and I are NOT 40 something, we are 20 something with 20 years experience. I agree with that!!!!
I agree too!!
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Good Morning--
We're all sunny and going to 3C tonight-----we'll be getting snow --up to a coupla inches and then it'll turn to rain tonight and tomorrow before turning to little snowflurries tomorrow night---but, boy, will we see wind!---up to 80kmh!
I got up all piculous and Audrey and I went for a very early walk outside before the weather hits---hopefully we'll see not so much of that wind. This afternoon I'm taking an elderly gentleman out to the local mall so that he can at least get out on occassion which means that I'll be having another honey buy to deal with
Lee: I ended up getting a TYCO boxcar so that 'Spring' has something to clobber every so often!! It seems to keep him from getting too curious about what is up on the layout to nab!
Galaxy: The layout space with the house attached will be a good thing for your back---
Chloe, I'll have a coffee and a toast with jam please-----I'll be over at the RC for a bit---
Good morning. It's 53 and cloudy. The high will be in the upper 60's and there's a 60% chance of rain.My feet hurt a bit less this morning (walking on hot nails). I have an appointment this morning with the foot doc at the Deer Creek hospital wound care clinic. I'm sure they'll do their usual poking and prodding and explaining how I should be doing things that I can't do. The rest of the day will be spent keeping my feet up and watching some old movies (I have tons of 'em) as well as some TV shows and surfing the net some.
Good Morning All,
Sebring went well and we were back in the shop late yesterday catching up paperw..k. Rain in Sebring and s..w here while we were gone but the car ran well and we ended up second in the championship and second in both races we ran. Not bad for a learning year with a very different car to any we'd run before. The driver especially did well adapting and has gone from mid pack at best to running consistently in the front group. The guys to beat are both retired pros and there's a bit of w..k to do there before we become a threat to them.
Sorry to see Jeff is still suffering with his feet and now Robs' got issues with his FIL again. Prayers for those in need. It also sounds like the govt is giving Ulrich full time employment taking classes. Hope the rest of you are hanging in there. I'll try to catch up later. Cheers, J.R.
Good morning. Coffee and biscuits and Gravy please. Thank you. Today: A chance of snow and sleet before noon, then rain and snow. High near 36. East southeast wind between 10 and 16 mph, with gusts as high as 23 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Little or no snow accumulation expected. Tonight: Rain before midnight, then snow. Low around 28. Breezy, with a east southeast wind 13 to 20 mph becoming southwest. Winds could gust as high as 29 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.
LSWrrChris, you and I are NOT 40 something, we are 20 something with 20 years experience.
Lee- Best thing I've heard in a long time! I'm gonna try to remember that!
I have thought of the visual appeal of all the switches as opposed to the reality of using all those switches, and know that what looks cool isn't always cool. BTDT got the T-shirt too many times to count. Like I said, I'm running DC now and with no real time frame, I will, more than likely, switch to DCC. I have decided on the Digitrax Zephyr. I like the control box as opposed to the handhelds. (hm,,,(scratches chin) I seem to see apattern here) The layout is really not large enough to need a portable control, throttle, cab, whatever, but, I see where it could come in handy with the future yard. From what I've heard from users, it is a great starter at a decent price. Most importantly it is upgradable if the layout grows or if for some reason I need multiple controls. Which, unless the wife wants to give up her laundry room, or part of the storage room, I'm landlocked.
Jeff- Hope things go well at the docs today.
Saaay, there juuuust may be a way I can ease into the main room a tad.
Have a Great Day!!
J.R. - Glad things went well for you. I have a semi&trailer with Raybestos Racing decals on it. Also , on tractor, Bobby Allison Motorsports. Inside the traler is a Buick race car , #12 with a teeny, tiny name on it. Can't make it out, to darn small. Any idea?
Flip
Good morning. Another cold morning, but it might warm up. Of course with "mixed" weather on the way.
Not much planned today. Might just be a lazy day for me.
Hope everybody has a good morning.
Mornin' everyone!
Flo I'll have the #2 special this morning. Over easy on the eggs, homefries, some turkey sausage, and a double order of sourdough toast if you please to go along with that cup of dark roast coffee in a FGLK mug you just brought. I'll stay right here at the rivet counter.
The ground outside got all white last night. The green color is peeking through little by little. Currently 33°F under cloudy skies. We are also under a high wind watch for the rest of the day. Predicting 1 to 3 inches of partly cloudy tonight.
Lee, your soldering method is an old "tried and true" technique that does the job very nicely with a bit of practice. Only suggestion I would make is to replace the "pipe flux' with electrical flux, aka: rosin flux. The pipe flux stays acid and will corrode the track and wire over time. I use the Micro Mark liquid rosin flux, but there are many sources of paste rosin flux out there.
Jim send me an email with your home email address and I will forward you a copy of the clinic. I can't do an attachment with the forum software email client.
Jeffrey glad you are a bit better this morning. Good luck with the Doctor appointment.
All you folks talking about Christmas presents........ I probably ought to start thinking about what I getting some people this year. I have absolutely no idea what to get my son and DIL or the youngest Granddaughter..........
Flo, need a refill over here if you please!
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Good point Ray, I didn't have a problem with the white fluffly paste, but in a pinch I used the black tar looking paste and hand some green fur on my joints.
LSWrrUlrich; Good idea, but “next year” is less than 30 days away.
Lee - you caught me there! Is that true? Next year seems to be light years away, looking at the list of things I have to do until year end.
But here is my tactics: Christian´s room is used as storage for all those boxes and things we have not yet found a place for. The place is a mess, filled to the brim. Petra is starting to understand that a few things will have to go before our son is joining us for the holidays. There is no room to put up a bed for him (which will be one of those inflatable things - good enough for those 5 - 10 nights a year). Once we have cleared the ground, I will talk her into leaving the open space to me & my "trains". Of course I will have to find a way to compensate the loss for her. Pretty smart way, isn´t it? Unfortunately; Petra knows me quite well, no wonder, after 25 years, she can read me like a book...
Jeff & Rob - my healing