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Leeds Sovereign Street & Clarence Dock - a UK based layout

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 5:40 AM

The layout has been 'freshened up' a little. 

 

Here is Crewe based  Class 47  47423  Sceptre  with a twice weekly oil train to Immingham.

 

 

After 'another fall of rain'   at Clarence Dock.    The red post box has been changed to a Victorian style one  in keeping with the area.

 

 

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Posted by PM Railfan on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 10:16 AM

Mrs NorthBrit says 55 locos is too many????

 

Ill pretend i didnt hear that. Headphones

 

 

Love the pics. Especially the last one - that is definately a double taker! The salvage yard shot too. Makes me wanna shrink down to a kid again and go exploring all over it.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 10:30 AM

PM Railfan

Mrs NorthBrit says 55 locos is too many????

 

Ill pretend i didnt hear that. Headphones

 

 

Love the pics. Especially the last one - that is definately a double taker! The salvage yard shot too. Makes me wanna shrink down to a kid again and go exploring all over it.

 

Douglas

 

 

Thanks, Douglas.   Glad you like  the pictures.

I have 55 diesel locomotves plus   23 steam locomotives  when I change to the 1914/1919  scene.

At least Dawn knows where I am.   Laugh

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, March 25, 2021 6:12 AM

A model of 40ft canal boat  'Kingfisher'  has arrived  and when I run diesel trains it is berthed at Clarence Dock.     

 

 

In real life  Clarence Dock now has been regenerated with the area turned into apartments  and chic restaurants etc.  and The Armouries Museum.  The area is now called Leeds Dock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds_Dock

Kingfisher is the third boat on the layout.

Here is  'Clarice'.    A 55ft Holiday Boat

 

 

We find Ada at Clarence Dock when I run steam engines.  Ada is a  60ft working coal barge.

 


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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, March 29, 2021 10:08 AM

I ran some trains yesterday.  Here are some pictures.

 

When I was 16 years of age a work colleague let me read his copy of Model Railway News.  One of the articles was about 'Western hydraulic locomotives'.   I loved the names they had.  I shall have to have one or two.  The total now stands at eleven.

Here is  Class 52  D1013  Western   Ranger  passing the signal cabin with right of way to enter  Crown Point Yard.

 

 

The running of a Steam Special.

From an unusual angle of Charlie Marston's yard  Ex-London, Midland & Scottish Railway (LMS)  locomotive 5699   'Galatea'   caught in the afternoon sunshine.

The real 'Galatea'  is still operating.  Sometimes it carries the name 'Alberta';  depending who is paying the Charter.

 

 

In real life one knows there is a train there, but cannot see it.  Just how I like it. Smile

A view from the control area of 'Galatea' passing.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, April 1, 2021 5:02 AM

A beauty of operating  a secondary rail line  that has diverted trains running on it sometimes is, I can run those trains when I feel like it.

Here are two pictures of 'The North Briton'.  A Leeds Central to Edinburgh Waverley Pullman Service.

Inverness based Class 47 47517  Andrew Carnegie  is in charge.

 

Passing Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

 

 

and passing Charlie Marston's Yard.  The railroad seems secondary to what is going on.

 

 

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Posted by JOCK GRAHAM on Thursday, April 1, 2021 6:47 AM

You might be interested in this photo of pre-gentrification warehouses on Leeds Dock Street.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:09 AM

Thanks for the picture,  Jock.

Leeds Dock Street is about a mile from Clarence Dock (now Leeds Dock.)  on the opposite side of Crown Point Road.   Dock Street got its name from being near Brewery Wharf;  which was originally used by Tetley Brewery.

I do have old pictures of Clarence Dock and surrounding area.  My model is about 60%  correct.   I do not have the space to build a proper model, but what I have done is a representation. 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 1, 2021 1:26 PM

Hi David,

Have you ever posted a track plan? I think people would be interested in seeing one.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, April 1, 2021 2:25 PM

There is a plan on page 1.  in more detail regarding how it works.

 

Here it is again (not to scale).

11ft X 8ft  over all.   The bridge lifts off  (sometimes Smile )

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 1, 2021 4:36 PM

NorthBrit
Here it is again

Thanks David,

I printed a copy for future reference.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, April 9, 2021 11:37 AM

I have been rather busy lately and not run any trains.  I must try tomorrow. 

 Meanwhile two views  taken some time back.

 

Policeman P. C. Henderson  on duty.

 

 

L.M.S.  locomotive   5699 Galatea passing Wyndham Farm  on a 'Steam Special'.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, April 9, 2021 2:42 PM

Lastspikemike

And is the town council planning on repairing that pavement any time soon, I wonder?

 

 

You should know already that very little is perfect on my layout.  Big Smile   The large  number of broken pavement I have seen. Smile

As for any murders.  We have no faith in the BBC.     The only murders here are  "I could murder a cup of tea."  Laugh

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, April 18, 2021 9:51 AM

I have been in the process of painting some figures.   Once done I will place them around the layout in little scenes.

Meanwhile a new locomotive has arrived.  A Class 50  50036  Victorious.   It was at a bargain price (not from Ebay)  that I could not refuse.   A few circuits of the layout; I am really pleased with it.

 

First pose on the layout ; at Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

 

Passing Charlie Marston's Yard.   She was actually pulling carriages effortlessly.  The Class 50 locomotives were/are named after Royal Navy warships.

 

 

A final photograph at the Locomotive Depot.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 2:24 PM

New arrivals today.

40mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Guns.   I have them loaded on Lomac wagons.

Here they are on their first run on the layout.  Class 47  47404  Hadrian in charge.

 

 

A little scene.  Margaret Griffiths and her daughter Sally  in the garden

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:26 PM

NorthBrit
40mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft Guns.

Those look like excellent models. Roco?

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:33 AM

Lastspikemike

I had not realized things were getting so dangerous in the UK. 

Even model railroads need air defence?

 

 
 
Laugh
 
The reason for the Bofors guns.
 
In 1914 on the outskirts of Leeds at what became Barnbow,  Number 1 National Filling Station was built.  They filled the shells to be used in France/Belgium )in the Great War).
 
After the war the site was closed.
 
It reopened again in 1936  during the massive rearmament program.   Becoming the Royal Ordnance Factory   it made mainly tanks;   Churchill,  Conqueror  and Challenger tanks.   They also made other pieces of ordnance; hence the Bofor Guns.
 
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Those look like excellent models. Roco?

-Kevin

 

I received an email from my model store (on Monday) they had arrived and was I still interested in them?

A quick reply  and payment.   As can be seen  'on the train'  by Wednesday.

Just waiting for a crane now.   I have been waiting 18 months.  Told it will arrive in September.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Thursday, April 22, 2021 9:56 AM

NorthBrit
Becoming the Royal Ordnance Factory   it made mainly tanks;   Churchill,  Conqueror  and Challenger tanks.   They also made other pieces of ordnance; hence the Bofor Guns.

I intend to model a military transport train on my layout so I have watched eBay for several years for suitable loads at a reasonable price. The loads were extremely rare, and the reasonable price concept was even rarer. However, perseverence paid off and a couple of years ago I scored six unmarked Sherman tanks for peanuts. Now I just have to acquire six shorter flat cars with roadnames from the same railway so I can run the tanks. I recognize that I could use longer flat cars and put two tanks on per car, but that will make for a much shorter train, and that's no fun!

Cheers!!

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, April 22, 2021 10:03 AM

hon30critter
The loads were extremely rare, and the reasonable price concept was even rarer. However, perseverence paid off and a couple of years ago I scored six unmarked Sherman tanks for peanuts.

Dave,

There is a Russian company called Zvezda that makes a good assortment 1/100 scale armoured military vehicles. These can be found at very low prices. I order them on eBay from sellers in Russia. I usually have them within a week!

Normal plastic cement does not work on these small Zvezda models, but super-glue does.

Believe it or not, the 1/100 scale vehicles actually look better to my eye on HO scale flatcars. They fit better, and are still large enough to have the proper amount of "heft".

I have used bits from Zvezda models of German WW2 vehicles in scrap loads.

These Lionel Shermans on flat cars are quite a bit more undersized than 1/100 scale models on 1/87 scale flatcars, but they still look hefty and heavy.

Here is the real deal. You can see the "duckbill" tracks hang over the sides, and two tanks barely fit. Earlier Shermans would just fit onto a flatcar deck with no overhang. The barrel from the main gun on the lead tank extends over the flatcar in front of it. The two tanks are different, so this picture might be post war. The front tank looks like it might be a field modified "Jumbo", and the second one looks to be a late-war M4A3-E8. That might be an M7 armoured howitzer carrier on the second flatcar.

It looks like there are buffers on these US ARMY flatcars, circled in red.

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Posted by Overmod on Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:20 PM

Lastspikemike
Could these be Firefly tanks?

Just having a bit of fun.  Now let's get back to more stories, which to me are some of the best part of model railroading...

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:26 PM

OK, no need to hijack David's thread with a bunch of nonsense about Fireflys and Easy-8s.

I was providing some product and modelling information to Dave with my response, let's not go any further in this direction unless David leads us that way.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, April 22, 2021 2:48 PM

SeeYou190

I was providing some product and modelling information to Dave with my response, let's not go any further in this direction unless David leads us that way.

-Kevin

 

 

As interesting as it is and my father being in a Tank Regiment,  I shall continue painting some figures. Smile

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, April 28, 2021 2:15 PM

I have been running a few trains after some ballasting and painting figures.

Edinburgh Haymarket based Class 47  47711  Greyfriars Bobby  passing Leeds Sovereign Street on its way to Crown Point Yard.

 

 

At Crown Point Yard.   Class 37  37417  Highland Region,  47711 Greyfriars Bobby  and Class 52 D1035  Western Yeoman.

Amongst the staff on duty is photographer John King. (The figure at the rear, near the wall.)   He has been given a Yard Pass to photograph locomotives.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, May 4, 2021 7:43 AM

I was having a challenge with one of my carriages;  forever derailing.   It was always at the same place and I thought it was the track.

Anyway it turned out to be a set of wheels.  Not sure why, but I replaced them.

 

I then decided to run the carriages on test runs. 

Sometimes I get  weird and wonderful pictures depending on the 1-1 world outside the train room.    It is raining.  Raining hard.

 

A misty, eerie feel as  Class 25  25 218  waits at the signal  with a Leeds Central to York local service.   

 

 

25218 now has right of way.

 

 

Near Canal Corner.  A shaft of sunlight.    Does Stevie Steel  (in the heavy yellow coat)  get a good picture?

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, May 4, 2021 8:01 AM

It is still raining outside, but not as heavy.

Class 47  47515  Night Mail has been at Doncaster Locomotive Works for a major overhaul.   Her first run before  being put into service properly is on a Doncaster to Leeds Central local.  Seen here passing the Junction.

 

 

Here is 47515 again at Crown Point Junction.  Ash Farm Fields and The Lake are at the rear.   Workmen at J.H. Thompson's Builders Merchants are hard at work  oblivious to the goings on on the railway.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:49 AM

Little things added here and there.

People waiting at the crossing  as Class 47  47402  Gateshead passes on its way to York

 

 

Class 142  arriving at Leeds Sovereign Street Station  on its way to Wetherby.   A driver and passengers have been added.

 

 

A rarity  A former Autocoach  converted to run with a Cravens DMU power car.  The Autocoach was originally powered by a small steam engine.   Now converted and repainted blue and cream  is on the Wakefield Kirkgate to Leeds Central  service.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, May 6, 2021 4:24 AM

When running steam locomotives at Clarence Dock  thing are okay.   Changing to diesel running a few minor problems are happening.  I shall have to alter the track plan a little.   A bigger run round is needed.

 

Meanwhile  Class 25 25237  is reversing trucks at Clarence Dock.

 

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, May 7, 2021 2:38 PM

Two pictures of diesels at Clarence Dock.   The little station platform  is from a diorama of Lybster Station I did a few years ago.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 4:37 AM

Class 58  locomotives were built mainly to haul coal trains from collieries to the power stations.

Here is Class 58  58001  with train of coal hoppers.   The hoppers are of 1910 (or so) era  and operate mainly on my steam engine running days.   At least the Class 58 is hauling real coal.   Smile

 

 

 

(I thought)  In real life Class 52  locomotives never ventured to Leeds  and I always operated my small fleet of them on the Rule 1 basis.    Two weeks ago I was informed (on the odd occassion)  Class 52s  on the Swansea to Leeds Central  did the whole journey.

Here is Class 52  D1057  Western Chieftain on a diverted  Leeds Central to Swansea  train at Crown Point Junction  signals.    Class 58  58001  is in the Yard.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 5:50 AM

How many times do we know there is a locomotive or train there, but we cannot see it (properly).

View from the control area looking over Roseville School railings towards Crown Point Yard.

Bescot based (near Birmingham)   Class 47 47474  Sir Rowland Hill  on its way to Leeds Central for its next turn of duty.

 

 

The same time, but a view over the bushes.  In the Yard is  Gateshead based  Class  47   47404  Hadrian.    47404  was regularly seen around Birmingham.

 

 

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