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Leeds Sovereign Street & Clarence Dock - a UK based layout

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, November 14, 2020 11:21 AM

An overall view of Clarence Dock  with the new bckscene section added.

 

 

Agnes Marston is just going to the local store with her dog 'Prince'  leading.   It is 1970s dogs did not have to leads to keep them close to their owners.

The car is a Hillman Imp.  Charlie Marston must have made a sale at the scrap yard. Smile

Across the road from the Marston's house , Joe Johnson's fence is in need of repair. I shall have to  make a little cameo of him repairing it.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, November 15, 2020 4:48 AM

NorthBrit
Agnes Marston is just going to the local store with her dog 'Prince'  leading.   It is 1970s dogs did not have to leads to keep them close to their owners. The car is a Hillman Imp.  Charlie Marston must have made a sale at the scrap yard.  Across the road from the Marston's house , Joe Johnson's fence is in need of repair. I shall have to  make a little cameo of him repairing it.

Hi David,

More great scenes!! I dearly hope that when I get to the scenery stage that I will have enough patience to create such intricately detailed scenes. You are an excellent modeller!!

Cheers!!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:48 AM

Thanks for your comments, Dave.

 

I was told some time back when doing scenery to do what you see and not what you think you see.  Nature is many colors of the same thing;  even when together.

Earth is many colors of brown.   There are 'fifty shades of green'  intermingling into one.   The sky is not just blue and/or white.  It is not always 'Summer'.  Trees are differnt sizes; even the same type.  Nature is not 'HO scale'.

 

Then do little cameos of life.  Two or three people talking can be still there in five years time and still look right.   Vehicles and people at a rail crossing.  A delivery vehicle outside the store  whilst the driver is inside the store.  Just make sure the vehicle is relative to the store.   Every so often move any vehicles not in a cameo around.  You will see a different scene 

Somebody under a vehicle doing repairs.  Only the legs showing and  a 'few tools' nearby.  Somebody cleaning the windows of their house and they ar disturbed by a neighbor and they talk.  There are millions more.

Simple little tricks  that are common in real life.   

Do not follow the usual stereotype layout.  Dare to be different.  Make your layout stand out from the crowd.

See what you see and not what you thought you saw.

I am still working on it.  Big Smile

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, November 15, 2020 8:36 AM

NorthBrit
See what you see and not what you thought you saw.

I think I understand what you mean. Time will tell if my understanding actually translates into scenes that are as interesting as yours.

Thanks,

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, November 15, 2020 9:24 AM

hon30critter

 

 
NorthBrit
See what you see and not what you thought you saw.

Thanks,

Dave

 

 

 

If you go to a Mall or store  wait a few minutes and watch the people  going in or coming out.  How they suddenly stop and other people cannot pass.  They see someone and stop to talk.  Are they at the shopping trolley park?   Is someone else waiting to return their trolley?   Is there any birds on the ground?  Take a photograph.

One little scene, a lot going on.  A little scene that puts a layout up a notch.

 

Look at how the 'Greats'  in Model Railroading do. Pelle Søeborg  etc.   Why are they 'Great'.   Just follow their principal.   Mostly it is little (plausible) cameos all around the layout.  Cameos of believable scenes.

Anyone can do it.   Just look at the picture you took at the Mall  and put it on your layout.  See what you see and not what you thought.

Look at a family walking in the street.  Where are the kids?  Are they in front?  Behind?  Have they seen something?  Are they looking up at something; maybe a military airplane?   Look again.  Not an airplane but snowflakes.  (It is not always Summer. Smile)

If we look at life differently we see what we see.

Make the layout unique.

Happy modeling

David

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, November 15, 2020 10:51 AM

NorthBrit
Make the layout unique.

David,

Thanks for the inspiration!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, November 23, 2020 6:58 AM

Sometimes trains do not have to be running to enjoy railroad modeling.

Getting ready for a goods train to arrive atClarence Dock.

 

A quiet time at the junction

 

 

Happy modeling.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 6:07 AM

A little running session.

A new purchase.  A LMS Class 5 locomotive given a run.  Entering Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

 

A Class 121  Leeds Central to Seacroft railcar waits at the signal whilst a 'late' diverted Liverpool to Newcastle train clears the junction.

 

Happy modeling.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, November 26, 2020 2:05 PM

Signals at go.  The 1705  Leeds Central to Dewsbury Market Place DMU  departing Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

 

A view from the control area.

Just how I like it.  Knowing an engine is there, but can hardly see it.  Class 58 58001 (top right)  is approaching  the stop signal at the junction  on its way to Balm Road Yard.

 

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Posted by York1 on Thursday, November 26, 2020 2:08 PM

Great pictures.  Thanks for sharing.  You do a great job with your layout.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, November 27, 2020 4:48 AM

Thanks John.   It is an easy layout to operate and is enjoyable to build.

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Posted by FowlmereRR on Tuesday, December 1, 2020 3:47 AM

David - I love your pictures, and your whole modelling ethos., Great work.

I especially liked the "SOLD" painted on the old loco. Now, you have to wonder, has it been sold for scrap (booo!) or to an enthusiastic restorer so that one day it may live again Big Smile

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, December 1, 2020 4:40 AM

FowlmereRR

David - I love your pictures, and your whole modelling ethos., Great work.

I especially liked the "SOLD" painted on the old loco. Now, you have to wonder, has it been sold for scrap (booo!) or to an enthusiastic restorer so that one day it may live again Big Smile

Bob ( a Cambs Brit).

 
Thanks for your comments, Bob.  Glad you like the layout.   It is real fun to operate.
 
As for the 'sold' on the locomotive?   Charlie Marston is a bit like Dai Woodham (a saviour to old steam engines)  Big Smile
 
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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, December 1, 2020 11:14 AM

It is evening.   The 1718 London Kings X to Leeds Central Pullman service arrival into Leeds is running late due signal failure on the main line.  It to being diverted on to the secondary route past Crown Point and Leeds Sovereign Street, then to Leeds Central.  Here we see it passing Marston's Yard  D9004  Queen's Own Highlander  in charge.

 

Another evening shot.  This time D1008 Western Harrier is diverted because of engineering works.  She is on the Newcastle to Liverpool service due into Leeds Central at 1814.  Here she is at the junction.

 

And passing Roseville Station.  The Christmas lights are on in the village.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, December 4, 2020 2:48 PM

The young girl is in trouble for not doing her share of work.

 

Is the boy in trouble and the Policeman admonishing him,  or is the lad asking the Policeman a question?

 

A long way from home.   The Highland Stag on the side of Class 25  25218 tells us it is an Inverness, Scotland based engine and is heading south to Immingham, England.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, December 7, 2020 2:26 PM

Class 26  26016  is passing Roseville School with the evening oil train 

 The rear of the train  at the crossing.

 

Engines have been changed and is now passing Crown Point Yard.

 

Now waiting at the signal.  Class 25  25218 in charge.

 

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Posted by Pruitt on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 10:51 AM

Looks great, David!

Those Shell tank cars look like they just came out of the factory.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 11:31 AM

Thanks Mark.   The tank cars belong to my son, and they 'live' on my layout.  My son doesn't like weathering his items.    They fit in with the timeframe  of the layout of just been built, so look brand new. 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:10 PM

Class 47  47587  County of Hertfordshire  on a Royal Mail Parcels Service  from Doncaster to Leeds Central.   At the rear is a passenger carriage.  British Railways would pay Royal Mail to add the coach on to the train.  It saved BR running the service themselves.

 

 

The same train at Crown Point.

 

Class 27  27037 at Crown Point Yard.   It is a Glasgow Eastfield based locomotive,, easily identified by the 'dog'  on the side.

 

A drop of oil here.  A drop of oil there.

Class 52  D1013    Western Ranger  at Crown Point Yard.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 6:18 AM

Train services on Leeds Sovereign Street and Crown  Point Yard are   simple and easy to operate.

Leeds Central Station  (the next station down from Sovereign Street) actually closed in 1967,  but I use modeler's licence and the station is still open in 1972

With the lines being secondary routes the trains operated are Diesel Multiple Units (DMUs)  from/to Leeds Central to Wakefield Kirkgate,  Leeds Central to Dewsbury Market Place,   Leeds Central to Wetherby.    A Class 121 Unit runs Leeds Central to Seacroft.

A DMU bound for Dewsbury and Class 121 at the junction.

 

There are trains of two carriages and diesel locomotive on the following routes;

Leeds Central to York,  Leeds Central to Goole   and Leeds Central to Castleford.

The timetable used is the 1966 Leeds Central one.    Trains arriving at Central Station on the Main Lines North, West & South exchange engines before carrying on with their journies.   The locomotives arriving then run light to Crown Point Yard for refuelling ready for their next turn of duty.

Locomotives from Stourton Freight Yard and Balm Road Quarry Sidings also run light to Crown Point, refuel and return.

Sometimes  to add more variety,  I have diverted trains off the Main Line.  Then we may see a London to Leeds Pullman service,  'Thames - Clyde',  'Thames - Forth'  or Liverpool to Newcastle expresses.

Then there is the Holiday Excursions,  a Soccer Special.   

Add a few freight trains and I am busy.    A real, living railroad.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, December 9, 2020 2:23 PM

Two pictures from the running session yesteday.

From a donor locomotive I made Class 47  47404  'Hadrian', a Gateshead based locomotive.  Within two days of me finishing the model  Bachmann Europe brought out an identical one.   

I also built the Class 55 engine at the rear.  22 locomotives of the class were built and named after either racehorses or Regiments of the British Army.    This engine is number 55023 and is named 9th Queen's Royal Lancers.   The number folllows the last one of the class.  The name is after the Regiment my father was in.

 

 

I metion previously of diverted trains running on the layout.

Here is Class 45  45048  The Royal Marines with a diverted Thames - Forth Express.   Class 45s and Class 46s were regulars on both Thames - Forth  &  Thames - Clyde services.  In reality both trains followed the same route until north of Carlisle.   There, the Clyde service went to Glasgow,  the Forth service to Edinburgh.  The Clyde service was half an hour ahead.  The same on return.

 I like to keep the correct classes of locomotives on the correct services.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, December 10, 2020 6:07 AM

A Short History Lesson

In 1909  fearing a war with a country from the East, (No country was ever mentioned.)   the British Government ordered Railway Companies to make Ambulance Carriages.

In 1912/13   several Military Manouvres took place in Anglia in the threat of an invasion.

1914  War was declared against Germany and her Allies.

Munitions Factories began their work.   

The Munitions Factory at Barnbow, Leeds was built and became National Shell  Filling Factory Number One.  Railway tracks were laid into Barnbow.

It was just after 10pm on Tuesday 5th December 1916, when several hundred women and girls had just begun their night shift. Their tasks that fateful evening consisted as they normally did, of filling, fusing, finishing off and packing 4½ inch shells. Room 42 was mainly used for the filling, and between 150 and 170 girls worked there. Shells were brought to the room already loaded with high explosive and all that remained was the insertion of the fuse and the screwing down of the cap. A girl inserted the fuse by hand, screwed it down and then it was taken and placed into a machine that revolved the shell and screwed the fuse down tightly.

At 10.27pm a violent explosion rocked the very foundations of Room 42 killing 35 women outright, maiming and injuring dozens more. In some cases identification was only possible by the identity disks worn around the necks of the workers. The machine where the explosion had occurred was completely destroyed. Steam pipes had burst open and covered the floor with a cocktail of blood and water.   Within a few hours of the explosion, bodies having been taken out, other girls were volunteering to work in room 42. Production was stopped only briefly.

Barnbow was Britain’s premier shell factory between 1914 and 1918 and at the end of hostilities on 11 November 1918, production stopped for the first time. By that time a total of 566,000 tons of finished ammunition had been dispatched overseas.

Fast forward to 1936.    Britain introduced a massive rearmaments program on all thee Military Services  -  Army, Navy and Air Force.   It is said, Britain was preparing for war in 1941.    Barnbow was reactivated, this time making Tanks. and became Royal Ordnance Factory 

(R. O. F.).  Leeds.

Production of tanks continued until 2004 when ROF Leeds closed.

The site is now a housing estate.   

In October 2016, the site of Barnbow Munitions Factory was listed as a scheduled monument.

There are two memorials to those killed, each listing all the names. In Manston Park is a stone with a plaque. On Cross Gates Road, by the roundabout at the Ring Road are 3 small stones with a simple inscription. Around them on the ground are metal tiles, each bearing the name of one of the women.

 

Today streets on the estate are named after the women killed in the explosion in 1916.

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On the layout I have nurses doing practice outside Leeds Sovereign Station.

 

 

 

For increased traffic I have trains taking goods  and workers to and from Barnbow.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, December 10, 2020 9:36 AM

Another source of traffic on the layout is taking  workers and  supplies  to and  from Blackburn's Aircraft Works at Olympia Works, Roundhay,  Leeds.

Blackburn Aeroplane & Motor Company started making Aeroplanes in Balm Road, Leeds.

They opened another factory in Roundhay in 1914.   In association with Hudswell Clarke  production of aircraft and parts continued up to 1961 alongside their other factory in Brough, Yorkshire.

Upon closure work was trasferred to Hudswell Clarke, Jack Lane near Balm Road, Leeds.

The site at Olympia Works, Roundhay is now a supermarket.   A small section of the land is the Air Training Corps.

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The beauty of a little research bring a reason to run different traffic on a railroad.  Thus making it a 'Living Model Railroad'.

 

David

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, December 11, 2020 6:05 AM

A Class 58  58001  On a Northbound  'Quarry Train'  to Northumberland, passing 'Marston's Yard.

 

The early arrival of the Wakefield Kirkgate to Leeds Central waits at the signal  for The Calls Junction,  whilst the Class 121  Seacroft to Leeds Central has right of way.  The tall signal is a new addition and needs 'bedding in'.  The tall signais required because of the footbridge obscuring the drivers of trains view.

 

 

The Wakefield Kirkgate to Leeds Central  DMU  arriving at Leeds Sovereign Street Station.   The Leeds Central destination sign  on the DMU is done on the computer, printed and affixed to the front.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:45 AM

The Class 58 with the Northbound train of Quarry wagons.   The locomotive is  slow on its 'fast speed'  irrespective what it is pulling.  Therefore looks great hauling full coal wagons which it normally does.

The scenery is  still being redone from the footbridge to the front.

 

 

A long way from home,  Inverness based Class 37   37026  'Glencairn'  on a diverted Newcastle to Liverpool service.  At Leeds Central engines will be exchanged and a Class 52  will take over.   After refuelling at Crown Point Yard,  37026  will return to Newcastle on a later service.

 

 

I saw this 'lomac and aeroplane load'  and had to buy it.   Here it is on its way to  'Olympia Works'  Roundhay.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:32 PM

Little scenes bringing some life to the reason of the layout.  Father and son watching the trains.

 

 

What are they seeing?     A Class 26  26016  on a freight train bound for  Royal Ordnance Factory  (ROF)   at Barnbow.

 

 

The same train at Canal Corner.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:14 AM

Class 47  47474  Sir Rowland Hill arrives at Crown Point Yard to refuel.   Behind is Class 55  55016   Gordon Highlander  about to depart on her next turn of duty,  the 1411 Leeds Central departure to London Kings Cross.

 

 

Class 47  47474   receiving a drop of oil here and there  to be ready for the Up Postal at 2245.

 

 

Class 47  47401  North Eastern  on the 1511  Leeds Central to York  arriving at Roseville Station.  The locomotive's home base is Gateshead

 

Another Gateshead based locomotive  Class  47  47402   Gateshead   on a Castleford to Leeds Central train  due arrival 1558.

 

 

Having locomotives running for a reason  keeps the enjoyment at a high point.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, December 17, 2020 5:29 AM

A  Steam Special.  Former London, Midland & Scottish Railway locomotive 46210  Lady Patricia  at the junction.

 

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, December 18, 2020 5:21 AM

That is correct up to Nationalisation when British Railways changed the colors of rolling stock.

The layout is set in the timeframe of 1968 to 1972 and the engine is running as a 'Steam Special'.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, December 18, 2020 8:51 AM

Lastspikemike

I left England in 1965, departing from Albert Dock in Liverpool. 

My last memory of British steam was an A4 down from Newcastle arriving at Kings Cross. That was green LNER as it appears in my mind's eye.  

 

That could  be British Railways Green.

They did  B R  blue,  changing to green.  A lot were changed to black color.

Some ex LNER remained Apple Green or Silver.

 

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