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Leeds Sovereign Street & Clarence Dock - a UK based layout

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, July 20, 2021 11:43 AM

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Empty parcel vans passing Leeds Sovereign Street Station on their way to York.

That picture makes me want to work on my own mail train.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, July 21, 2021 9:06 AM

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Empty parcel vans passing Leeds Sovereign Street Station on their way to York.

 That picture makes me want to work on my own mail train.

-Kevin   

 

That would be nice to see.   Railroad modeling never ends.  Laugh

Here in the UK  we had parcel vans carrying only parcels.   Letters were carried in letter sorting carriages.   I have a rake of blue carriages and a rake of red ones.  The red ones were the more modern ones.

These days letters are no longer sorted on trains, so they are carried in the parcel vans.

 

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Class 26  26015  on a York to Leeds Central  two carriage  local train.   The curves of the track are on the small size for the now longer carriages.    One reason why the real rail line closed.  Modelers license means the line is open.

 

 

As an aside.   Now the real area the line ran through is more populated,  there is (serious)   talk  of relaying track from Leeds to Wetherby.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, July 21, 2021 9:20 AM

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That would be nice to see.   Railroad modeling never ends. 

All I can share are the models I have collected to represent my mail train.

It will be pulled by either this USRA Light Pacific or an Alco RS-3.

It will have an express reefer and two mail storage cars.

This Railway Post Office will be include for letter sorting.

Finally, this passenger car will be included in case of any fare paying passengers.

All of these are shorter model, the longest being 65 feet, so they should look OK on my tighter curves.

I have not decided what colour to paint the mail train equipment. I am thinking very dark olive green with white lettering would look appropriate for this equipment.

Mt intention is to add lighting to the RPO and Obsevration car. This will be the first time I have lighted a passenger train, and just having two cars to work on seems like a good place to start.

I have five pairs of excellent Tenshodo passenger car trucks for this train. My plan is to use the two mail storage cars and maybe the express reefer for electrical pickup, and run wires to the two lighted passenger cars. I will probably put a constant lighting circuit in one of the mail cars to prevent flickering.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, July 21, 2021 10:44 AM

They look really good, Kevin.  Dark olive green seems a good color.  Reminds me of the old Post Office Telephones vehicles here in the UK.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, August 2, 2021 10:02 AM

A couple of pictures from the last running session.

 

Class 47  47402  Gateshead with a Castleford to Leeds Central  two carriage local train  passing Wyndham Farm and Canal Corner.

 

 

The same train passing Marston's Scrap Yard.

 

 

Thanks for looking

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, August 5, 2021 5:03 AM

More pictures taken on a running session.

 

A Leeds Central to Dewsbury Market Place Station DMU  waits at the jJunction Signals.

 

 

Two freight locomotives wait at Crown Point Yard  ready for their next turn of duty.

 

 

A Wetherby bound Class 142 waits for right of way  as a late, diverted London to Leeds Central Pullman service clears the Junction.   There must have been a locomotive failure as a Class 37  37417  'Highland Region' is in charge of the train.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:36 AM

The grandchildren take control.

 

 

 

I shall entertain myself with the new garden railway.

 

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:48 AM

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The grandchildren take control.

That looks like fun! I'll bet the risk is worth the reward.

Happy kids are the best.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:57 AM

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 That looks like fun! I'll bet the risk is worth the reward.

Happy kids are the best.

-Kevin  

 

I gave up worrying about broken things when they visit.  Whistling  Laugh

 

One way for passengers  to travel! Yeah

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, August 11, 2021 2:00 PM

The gandchildren have gone home.    One last turn of the controls.  One speed = full speed.

 

Almost a blur at the rear.

 

 

Speeding over the level crossing.

 

 

Meanwhile I took the relaxed approach at Clarence Dock.  Two rare boxvans  make an appearance.

 

The steam crane is called to do some work

 

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:01 AM

Just before I went on vacation I ordered some 'Victorian' figures  from a local company,  Northumbrian Painting Services, Hexham, Northumberland.   They have arrived and are in a little scene outside Roseville Station.  They fit in with the car my younger granddaughter bought me.

Where are they going?

Or have they just returned?

 

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, August 24, 2021 6:15 AM

Three views around Clarence Dock.

Clarence Dock Goods Yard.    The building on the right was originally from my old diorama/layout of Lybster Station.  Lybster is near Wick, Caithness, Scotland.  The building was made of wood  (typical to the line.)    Here, brick papers are added to give a feeling of Leeds, Yorkshire.  

The platform at the rear is also from 'Lybster'.    The real platform at Clarence Dock was a temporary affair and lasted  less than a year.  Modelers license means it is still in use.

 

 

Clarence Dock.   The Glencairn wagon is far from home.   Glencairn is aso near Lybster. Smile

 

 

The Signal Box controls the entrance to Clarence Dock.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, September 2, 2021 2:30 PM

When I am on my own and run the steam engines I have them running in a 1914/1919  timeframe.  A timeframe that interests me.  Not the horrors of the trenches.  More the political side.  Britain was preparing for war in 1909 and the build up to 1914.

 

A local business near me, Northumbrian Painting Services make models of figures for different theaters of war and different timeframes (as far back as 1513 and the Anglo-Scots War.)   They also make various other items.   I purchased some ammunition boxes and recently some 'pit props',  all in HO/00  scale.

 

Here is a train of wagons with some pit props for usein France.  Locomotive 'East Keswick' in charge  about to pass Roseville Station.

 

The same train passing Leeds Sovereign Street Station

 

 

The train has been marshalled at Leeds LNWR Goods Yard and is now heading south with locomotive 'Leefy' in charge

 

 

The journey south continues.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, September 2, 2021 2:59 PM

On the same running session as previous  here is a heavy troop train  with members of The Northumberland Fusiliers on board.  They are passing Leeds Sovereign Street Station heading south.

 

The Railway Executive Committee took overall control of  railway carriages and trucks etc to ensure supplies were reaching the Military in France/Belgium.

The troop train consists of various carriages from different Companies.

The front two are from the North British Railway Company.  Others from The Stockton & Darlington Railway.

 

 

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Posted by Pruitt on Friday, September 3, 2021 9:00 AM

Looks good, David!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, September 5, 2021 7:54 AM

Thank you Mark.    

Searching information  to add 'life' to the layout.

The soldiers on the platform are part of the  2/7 (Leeds Rifles) battallion  Formed at Leeds, 15 September 1914.. 1 March 1915 : came under orders of 185th Brigade, 62nd (2nd West Riding) Division.  They have been on the platform quite awhile.  Whistling

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, September 6, 2021 6:48 AM

A running session with  some 'big steam locomotives'.

LMS  6220  'Coronation'  at the Junction.

 

 

LMS 6149  'Lady of the Lake'  passing Crown Point Yard

 

 

LMS  5699  'Galatea'  passing Leeds Sovereign Street Station.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, September 9, 2021 12:06 PM

Some new residents have arrived.

 

Sylvester and Cassius

 

 

Cherub the cat and Ringo the dog.

 

 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Saturday, October 9, 2021 1:01 PM

Our town had a rare torrent of rain.   More than a months rain in a couple of hours.

The train room was partly damaged.  Clarence Dock area took the brunt of the water.

The bridge making the circuit was also damaged.

 

 

Today I did a temporary repair  using some of the parts that are damaged.

 

 

Hopefully when fully dry   it will all join together.   If not I do have some card to make a new bridge.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, October 9, 2021 10:10 PM

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Our town had a rare torrent of rain.   More than a months rain in a couple of hours.

We normally have heavy rains almost every day in the Summer, but this year has seemed more severe than normal. The rains seem heavier, and last longer. 

I hope the layout will be easy to get back into shape.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:16 PM

Clarence Dock got a bit of 1-1 weathering.  Umbrella Laugh

 

 

Within three days  steam services were resumed.

 


Whilst the Hudson Ward boxvan was unloaded at Hudson Ward Flour Millers,   'Tiger' the resident 'ratter' relaxes on the steps for a few minutes.

 

 

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Sunday, October 17, 2021 3:37 PM

I'm finally caught up. Being infirm for a year kinda breaks up the continuity of life.

Great layout. As I previously mentioned, my layout is same size as yours. You've set the bar pretty high. 

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 1:15 PM

Thank you for your kind comments,  Chip.   As for setting the bar pretty high;  it is just a layout with lots of things that remind the grandchildren and I  of times gone.  A layout that brings joy to us all.

 

New scenes of Clarence Dock  after the 1-1 weathering.

 

New wooden parcels shed.

 

 

 

End of the line at the Dock.

 

 

Thanks for looking.

 

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 1:20 PM

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As for setting the bar pretty high;  it is just a layout with lots of things that remind the grandchildren and I  of times gone.  A layout that brings joy to us all.

Loviing what you do is what makes a good layout great. 

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Posted by Pruitt on Wednesday, October 20, 2021 11:19 PM

David,

I really like the way you've achieved the gritty trackside appearance. Very realistic!

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Posted by NorthBrit on Thursday, October 21, 2021 5:13 AM

Thank you Mark for your comments.

To get the effect I used a sheet of gravel paper cut to size  and glued in place.  The gravel paper was then dirtied up somewhat giving (hopefully)  a worn, well used area.

 

I have retained the puddles after the rain look.  Puddles are done by a little clear varnish and pieces of plastic over the top. The wet ground is varnish again leaving part as if the ground is drying out.

I just have to clean the area every so often when it becomes a little dusty.  

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Posted by PM Railfan on Thursday, October 21, 2021 10:10 PM

Hey Dave) Enlighten us tourist types..... what is that red thing just right of the door in that last picture?

Did you get all the rain damage fixed? Bridge ok now?

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Thursday, October 21, 2021 10:15 PM

I love the way the bumpers look. Much more hefty and imposing than the USA bumpers. Do the protrusions strike the buffers on English railway cars?

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Posted by NorthBrit on Friday, October 22, 2021 4:16 AM

Douglas.   The 'red thing'  is a  Victorian Post Box.  It is hexagonel in shape.   Later post boxes are now round in shape.   People and businesses post their mail in them. A Mailman  comes round and empty them.

A scene on my 1970s section of the layout. The post box is a round one in the scene

 

and take them to the Sorting Office.

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Kevin.  Bumpers  (we call them bufferstops)  are made of different materials.   The old wagonways had wooden bufferstops.   Metal framed ones  (the ones in the picture)  had  wooden bufferstops attached to the frame.  More modern ones are hydraulic.

 

 

Not a good picture of the bufferstop.  I was taking a general picture of the scene.

 

And yes,  the buffers on trains strike the bumpers on the protrusions in the picture.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, October 24, 2021 11:46 PM

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And yes,  the buffers on trains strike the bumpers on the protrusions in the picture.

Interesting.

I have often thought the design of American end-of-track devices was a bit severe, either slamming against the coupler or the wheels. A spring loaded or hydraulic cushion seems like a better idea.

-Kevin

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