"OUR" PLACE - SEE NEW THREAD!

[trolleyboy]

Good afternoon gentlemen. Cindy I'll have a Keith's while we await the boss to return.One word of caution though Cindy, Tex is not paper trained yet best we don't let him up on the bar top. [:O][xx(]

Tom Nice fallen flag as per usual. The IC is / was one of the great rebuilders.Many a long dead locomotive has been reserected in the Paducah shops. The rebuilt SD24's and GP9 programs are a thing of legeand. Who know's how many of the Paducah geeps are still going strong. many a shortline bought them up after IC was finished with them.

As an Olive branch one good set of E8's 9's would be the set that CN had repainted in their classic Super Continental passenger scheme for their inspection train.[tup][;)] The IC's shop boys painted them in the classic paint scheme shortly after the CN takeover


CM3 Loved the catalgue story you definatly could tell what time of the year it was when all the Christmas cat's started comming out. For me it was Eaton's, Sears,Canadian Tire, Consumers Distributing and a couple others. Most of these dept store cat, listed some fine trains in their toy sections. Sears and Eatons always had a page or two of Lionel trains HO and O.

Like Tom my first train set I bought myself. It was an HO one though and have stuck with it ever since.

Pete It was CN that has taken over the riegns of the IC. This happened what 5 or 6 years ago ? In essence it has given CN a Coast to Coast to Coaaast railway. Atlantic to Pacific in Canada and a mainline down through Chicago to the Gulf of Mexico. If you count the Northern Manitoba Churchhill line to hudson Bay then CN has access to the arctic as well.

Fergie nice to see you drop by . Hopefully you can stay longer the next time. Those loved but not forgotten east coast routes will be a welcome read for everyone here. Close to the Bosses heart will be any info on the Dominion Atlantic RDC's as well.[tup]
[:D]


Tom Nice follow up on the RDC's as well. I would imagine that to find rail car / locomotive ads today one would have to get a hold of a janes all the worlds railways yearbook. If they are at all like their Fighting ships eries than that would be the case. I know that in the old used copies of Fighting ships that I have you find ad's for shipbuilders and systems manufacturers.

Here's a little ad exerpt from a book I have here at home. This is an add from 1952 from Electro motive. This comes oout of the book In the shadow of giants the toronto Hamilton and Buffalo Railway story By Norman Helm.

"Good for another million miles."

Here is Electro-Motive gas-electric rail car number 301. Which has passed the million mile mark on the Toronto Hamilton and Buffalo Railway and is still performing perfectly in passenger service between Welland , Hamilton ,and waterford Ontario.

Mr W B Slater, assistant General Manager of the T H & B RY, writes:...


"This car has been in service since dec 14 1927, and the 1,000,000-mile mark was reached on January 8 1949. The car still provides excellant riding qualities. It is functioning 100% and without some unusual circumstances arising it should be good for another million miles. "

we expect reports like this. Practically all of the 500 Electro-Motive rail cars built between 1923 and 1932 are still in active service.The work these old-timers are doing will not match the spectacular achievements of their diesel successors. But it was in th steady, outstanding performance of such rail cars that railroads learned they could rely on locomotives which bear Electro-Motives name plate.

i'll pop back in later evryone.

Rob

[bjdukert]

Hi there Siberianmo Mind if I stick my head in the door for a couple of minutes and say it was nice to see you in the CS.

QUOTE: Looks like my "funny" from Halloween didn't "make the grade." Oh well, win some - lose some and some are rained out! <grin>

Wasn’t sure if you would be back so didn’t say anything,but it was good. The place looks good and it won’t be that long before you will have a year in,will it?
Ok,time to go and everyone take care
Talk to you later

Duke

[pwolfe]

Hi Tom and all.

A pint of the usual and a ham sub please.

A great party yesterday [tup] glad you liked the tale.Thanks TOM TED CM3 ROB RUSSELL AND DAVE.

Another great flag I marval at some of the wonderful train names. Who owns the Illinois Central today[?].

Thanks for the words to New Orleans. While we were waiting for a table at the Union Station Brewery next to the old Union Station in Providence RI it was playing on the outside loudspeakers. It has got to be one of the best of all the Railroad songs[yeah].

CM3 That wonderful piece on the model catalogs took me back many years our main manufactures were Tri-ang, Hornby Dublo and Trix.

Well I had better do some chores hope to pop back later PETE.

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #17

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Budd RDC’s from a 1950 advertisement found in my personal collection.

RDC – All-purpose Railway Passenger Coach

RDC, introduced a year ago, is the new all-stainless steel, self-propelled Budd rail diesel car. It is good looking, quiet, smooth riding. It is comfortable, clean and air-conditioned.

The New York Central now has two Budd RDC’s operating express service between Springfield and Boston, and a third, providing local service between western Massachusetts and Albany.

Western Pacific has two RDC’s covering the 924 miles which separate Oakland and Salt Lake City.

Pennsylvania-Reading Seashore Lines have just placed six RDC’s in operation between Camden, Ocean City, Wildwood and Cape May. They leave Camden as a six-car train and end up as two-car trains at each of the three Jersey cities.,

Chicago & North Western has three RDC’s in commuter service; the Baltimore & Ohio will soon haves two and New York, Susquehanna Western, four.

These varied uses to which RDC is being put cover almost every kind of service a railway passenger coach can render.

The general acceptance of the Budd all-stainless steel RDC suggests that the development of railway passenger coach equipment may be headed in a new direction.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The Budd Company . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . Philadelphia, Detroit, Gary. . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Budd . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

CHECK THE MONDAY SUMMARY and INDEX PAGES FOR MORE GREAT NOSTALGIA POSTS!

[siberianmo]

Mornin' (again)!

Just want to acknowledge coalminer3 CM3 for that interesting Post. [tup] Covered some ground with that one ....

Before I get into it, however, a reminder of sorts is in order: There have been a few Posts put out there for your enjoyment that I'm not so sure have been followed by the majority 'round here. Yesterday's feature for the Fallen Flag was
the N&W -page 151, followed by a NOSTALGIA piece on the Budd RDC - page 152 which was then followed with another Fallen Flag the Erie - page 152.

Okay, now to CM3:

That Pennsy steam turbine you mentioned was my first Lionel 0-27 locomotive. Came with a great freight set found under the Christmas tree back in 1948 (I think). Magne Traction, headlight, smoke and a great looking tender that "whistled," what memories. I could fill the page with recollections ......

GG1s are my most favorite of all - loved to look at 'em and still do. Have two in my "retired" display cases of HO "stuff" - Pennsy passenger in tuscan and freight in Brunswick green, both have the 5 stripes. Look great!

Transformers! Oh how I dreamed on the day I would own one of the "biggies," the "ZW." It wasn't to be, I settled on a used "KW," which was a power monger as well. Everything for my Lionel trains (which grew to two sets and accessories), aside from the intial gift, was purchased by me over the years from paper route money, cutting grass, shoveling snow, etc. All those trains are gone and placed into memory. A story for some other time ......

The Burlington - CB&Q was featured on page 129 ....... but without much "fan fare" as I recollect. Nice supplemental info and next time I run the CB&Q I'll have to append your info ...... [tup]

I will be gone for the rest of the AM and into early PM - so, Cindy has the bar!
[yeah][wow] [}:)][:-,]

Watch for the NOSTALGIA piece this afternoon ....... [tup]

Catch y'all when the wind shifts! [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

The City of New Orleans
by Steve Goodman

Riding on the City of New Orleans,
Illinois Central Monday morning rail
Fifteen cars and fifteen restless riders,
Three conductors and twenty-five sacks of mail.
All along the southbound odyssey
The train pulls out at Kankakee
Rolls along past houses, farms and fields.
Passin' trains that have no names,
Freight yards full of old black men
And the graveyards of the rusted automobiles.

CHORUS:
Good morning America how are you?
Don't you know me I'm your native son,
I'm the train they call The City of New Orleans,
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done.

Dealin' card games with the old men in the club car.
Penny a point ain't no one keepin' score.
Pass the paper bag that holds the bottle
Feel the wheels rumblin' 'neath the floor.
And the sons of pullman porters
And the sons of engineers
Ride their father's magic carpets made of steel.
Mothers with their babes asleep,
Are rockin' to the gentle beat
And the rhythm of the rails is all they feel.

CHORUS

Nighttime on The City of New Orleans,
Changing cars in Memphis, Tennessee.
Half way home, we'll be there by morning
Through the Mississippi darkness
Rolling down to the sea.
And all the towns and people seem
To fade into a bad dream
And the steel rails still ain't heard the news.
The conductor sings his song again,
The passengers will please refrain
This train's got the disappearing railroad blues.

Good night, America, how are you?
Don't you know me I'm your native son,
I'm the train they call The City of New Orleans,
I'll be gone five hundred miles when the day is done.

My preference is the Willie Nelson version, although Arlo Guthrie's was the first to make the charts!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Morning All: Coffee, please; round for the house and $for the jukebox. Emmylou Harris this a.m. She'll be in Charleston soon. Lovely fall day today; a little frost, and gas is $2.39/gal.

I went to the Post Office this a.m. and the box was full of catalogs which sne me to the noteboosk. Hope it ties in with model rr Wednesday.

The catalogs come in November, just as they have for years. The catalogs are books that deserve serious study. The catalogs mean that Christmas is coming. The Lionel catalog is the one that gets the most attention. Its glossy pages contain enough railroad-related material to satisfy Commodore Vanderbilt and all of his vest-wearing, watch chained, cigar-smoking lackeys.

Look, here’s a Pennsylvania Railroad steam turbine. On the next page is a Tuscan red GG1 electric with a set of Pennsy passenger cars. My father tells me that they look just like the ones he rides to Washington. I want to go to Washington, too, and see the “Congressional Limited” as it passes along the tidal basin by the cherry blossoms – at least it does in the catalog.

Here’s a GP7 in red, black, and silver from the Burlington Route set against a generic picture of the heartland. Turn the page and there’s some EMD switchers decorated for the Seaboard Air Line and for the Central Railroad of New Jersey. My, what we could do with a set of those. Then there are lovely F units in Santa Fe red and silver war bonnet paint and on the next page a pair of Fs for the New York Central. You can get freight or passenger sets with these.

Right after that is a monstrous FM Trainmaster lettered for the fearsome, far away, Virginian.

Toward the back of the book is page after page of freight cars of all types. Then there are pages of passenger cars. The very back has track, accessories, and transformers big enough to power a small city. It’s pretty simple: we want it all. And why not? Christmas is, after all, a time of renewed hope and possibility.

IIRC, we haven't heard too much from the Burlington. In 1930, the CB&Q celebrated their 80th Anniversary. Part of this activity was reequipping three trains: the Aristocrat (Chicago-Denver), the Blackhawk (Chicago-Minneapolis), and the Ak-Sar-Ben (Chicago-Lincoln).

Here's the ad copy for the Blackhawk. Again, style, style, style.......

The New Blackhawk – One of the Anniversary Fleet

Smoothly over a grade leveled by the mighty Mississippi goes the Blackhawk in superb new splendor. A felicitous service already known to travelers between Chicago, St. Paul and Minneapolis, today has a background of new and exquisite beauty. Designer and decorator have collaborated to realize a harmony of masculine comfort and feminine gracefulness never before achieved in transportation. Low, rakish Pullman seats complements with personal reading lamps and winged head-rests, generous, ceiling high partitions, deep pile, smartly modern rugs…window panes cushioned in rubber… ventilators adjustable by a mere touch…over-sized dressing rooms…cushion-spring mattresses in berths as restful as sleep itself.

Next behind the diner is the unique salon car, which has the comforts and atmosphere of a smart club; in the same car there are single rooms with stationary beds in addition to compartments and drawing rooms available in any combination desired.

On the rear of the train is the Blackhawk lounge…its full length dedicated to complacent comfort. Magazines to read, card nooks, restful chairs, inviting divans, a***rays aplenty, tonight’s newspapers when you board the train…tomorrow’s when you arise; a special room – and a charming one – for the ladies; a radio, buffet service evening and morning; terminal telephones – a rolling club, no less.

I don't know about you, but I'm ready to go buy a ticket.

work safe

[siberianmo]

Mornin’ Gents!

Let me get right to the acknowledgments before events of the day begin to unfold:

trolleyboy Rob Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 22:22:19

Regarding the advertisements of “the day,” consider that some of them were well before the advent of nationwide TV. Magazines and newspapers were really “it” insofar as getting the written word out. I’ve noticed in my research that the later the decades, the fewer and fewer magazine ads are to be found. For example, there are all kinds of RR ads during WWII, but I haven’t found one for the Korean, Vietnam or Gulf wars. There very well may be some, but not in the resources I’m using.

You win (also!) Your breakdown of the Characters aboard the Halloween Train “work” too! [tup] [swg]

Looks like Boris and Tex have made it through the night! Your gift was very appropriate and already in use …… [tup]

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 01 Nov 2005, 04:54:10

Given the reduced numbers at the bar lately, yesterday’s event was well attended. Pete surely came up with the “best in show,” and Russell “dressed up” for the occasion! CM3 gets recognition for the most innovative use of RR names, Erie! You, Sir, may want to take a trip upstairs, dip your hand into the tub o’ cash, and draw out your “overtime” pay. [swg] Me [?] Heck, just goes with the territory – I’m ALWAYS here. <grin>

Looks like some sensitivities have been tweaked! No attendance records being maintained ‘round here. Banter is all part of the game. Guess I’ve been told, eh[?] Enjoy your hobby! [tup]

Fergmiester Fergie Posted: 01 Nov 2005, 06:36:45

Hi Fergie! Nice seein’ ya over here. [yeah] Those VIA Rail “Renaissance” cars surely should have something other than F40PH’s at the head end. Also, the idea of the Budd observation domes (Park Cars) at the end is supposed to “entice” the tourist crowd. I expect they will be taken off the line very shortly – was supposed to be between May and the end of October.

Anything you wi***o contribute ‘round here will be greatly appreciated! Always lookin’ for somethin’ new and different!


So, whatillyahave [?]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[Fergmiester]

Good Morning all

Just a quickie as I'm rolling through.

Tom thought you might be interested in my sighting of the new Renaissance Cars that were in the station in Halifax yesterday! As I know how impressed you are with them. The amusing part of it was the engines were still the FP40's and in the rear was a good old-fashioned observation car.

I saw your Fallen Flags list. I'll have to get some specs for you as I can think of three local ones off the top of my head.

Sydney and Louisburg
Atlantic Dominion
Inter-Colonial RR

Later everyone

Fergie

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Illinois Central (IC)

Headquarters: Chicago, IL

Mileage:

1950: 4,779
1995: 2,732 (including rights)

Locomotives in 1963

Diesels: 629

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars: 49,226
Passenger cars: 857

Principal routes:

Chicago-New Orleans via Mattoon & Carbondale, IL, & Grenada, MS
Memphis-New Orleans via Vicksburg, MS & Baton Rouge, LA
Memphis-Jackson, MS via Greenwood, MS
Fulton, KY-Birmingham, AL
Freeport-Centralia, IL via Clinton & Vandalia
Chicago-Omaha, NE
Tara (Fort Dodge)-Sioux City, IA
Cherokee, IA-Sioux Falls, SD
Manchester-Cedar Rapids, IA
Waterloo, IA-Albert Lea, MN
Centralia, IL-Madison, WI
Gilman, IL-St. Louis
St. Louis-Du Quoin, IL
Edgewood, IL-Fulton, KY
Fulton-Louisville, KY via Paducah
Effingham, IL-Indianapolis, IN
Mattoon-Peoria, IL via Decatur
Jackson-Gulfport, MS
Meridian, MS-Shreveport, LA

Passenger trains of note:

Chickasaw (Memphis-St. Louis & Chicago)
City of Miami (Chicago & St. Louis-Miami & St. Petersburg, FL; joint with CG, ACL and FEC)
City of New Orleans (Chicago & St. Louis & Louisville-New Orleans)
Daylight (Chicago-St. Louis
Delta Express (Memphis-Vicksburg, MS)
Green Diamond (Chicago-St. Louis)
Hawkeye (Chicago-Sioux City
Iowan (Chicago-Sioux City)
Irvin S. Cobb (Louisville-New Orleans)
Kentucky Cardinal (Louisville-Memphis)
Land O’ Corn (Chicago-Waterloo, IA)
Louisiane (Chicago & St. Louis-New Orleans)
Magnolia Star (Chicago-New Orleans)
Mid-American (Chicago-Memphis)
Night Diamond (Chicago-St. Louis)
Panama Limited (Chicago & St. Louis-New Orleans)
Planter (Louisville-Memphis)
Seminole (Chicago-Jacksonville, FLA via Birmingham & Columbus, GA)
Southwestern Limited & Northeastern Limited (Meridian-Shreveport)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

TUESDAY’S INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day Guys! What a rainy day yesterday was, sure put a damper on the night’s activities for the “Trick or Treaters.” Well, we’ve got all kinds of treats in The Mentor Village Bakery pastry case, along with lots of hot, freshly brewed coffee and of course the <light> breakfasts listed on the Menu Board. So, what’s stoppin’ ya [?]

Info for the Day:

(1) The Selection Committee for the Order of the Stools will release the results of their October tomorrow. Watch for it!

(2) Wednesday’s are for those engaged in the model railroad hobby, along with any other aspect of railroading that falls into the hobby category to showcase what you have done, are doing or are planning to do. That just about covers it, eh [?] We’re really lookin’ for track diagrams, but if all else fails, an overall photo (pix) of one’s layout will be fine. Just save the photo spread for our Sunday Photo Posting Day!. We call Wednesday, Pike Perspectives Day!

(3) Thursday’s are for our Fish ‘n Chips Nite. We haven’t had a Nick’s Picks [C=:-)] in so long, I’m going to hold back on advertising that ‘til we hear from the “man” [C=:-)] himself! Dinner begins at 5 PM!

(4) Friday’s are for our Pizza Nite along with Steak ‘n Fries. [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM!

INDEX Mondays only!

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 05:40:08 (151) Monday’s Info, INDEX & Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 05:41:54 (151) Fallen Flag – N&W

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 05:57:23 (151) Acknowledgments for Sunday

(4) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 07:57:33 (151) The Crescent, etc.

(5) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 08:08:37 (151) Inclusive Post!

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 08:33:51 (151) reply to coalminer3 & Theodorebear, etc.

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 11:35:59 (151) NOSTALGIA #16 – Budd RDC

(8) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 12:46:49 (151) Boo!, etc.

(9) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 13:15:28 (152) Party!, etc.

(10) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 13:46:29 (152) Party!

(11) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 14:59:03 (152) Erie RR, etc.

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 15:21:22 (152) Fallen Flag – Erie

(13) West Coast S Dave Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 16:18:33 (152) He’s baaaaaaaaaaack!

(14) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 17:57:32 (152) reply to coalminer 3 & West Coast S, etc.

(15) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 18:08:02 (152) Boo! again

(16) pwolfe Pete Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 18:35:51 (152) Party Story!, etc.

(17) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 19:14:52 (152) Party!, etc.

(18) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 19:22:39 (152) reply to pwolfe, etc.

(19) siberianmo Tom Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 19:34:35 (152) reply to Theodorebear

(20) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 22:22:19 (152) Inclusive Post!

=======================================
That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom (Siberianmo) [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[Anonymous]

Good morning all, Tom, I got here early to get the place back in order. Just a wisk broom and dust pan did nicely. Ahh, a cup of green tea and a couple of crumpets should sate my breakfast apetite this Tuesday a.m. Pete, CM3, Rob, Russell, Dave and, of course the Boss, surely appreciate your participation, thanks.[^] Oh, CM3 yes, those "Cookers" can be dangerous allright.[:O] As to the Wednesday model rring feature, to my knowledge, "nostalgia" is always wecomed at "Our" Place. If not, I'm sure we will hear of it presently.

BTW, Tom, what is this "arrived late" nonesnse? Check out page 151, wherest I "checked in" quite early. The "hasty retreat" is logged in a 8:15 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, a full hour and 15 minutes after the appointed closing at 7:00 p.m."Easter Standard Time!" At the top of page 152, it occured to me I was "whipping a dead horse.!"[xx(] So what do you want, "blood from a turnip?"[banghead]

I need to get a early start on the HO today so, by your leave, I'll continue with my efforts along more rewarding endeavors.[tup] So long, till then.[:D]

[trolleyboy]

Good evening gentlemen. I've arrived later than I expected. Happy blated Boris. BTW I've left your gift outside your shed. An armadillo house and a length of chain to walk him with.

Tom I figured that it was boris on the front of the train with Ruthy in his hand the other three girls stiring a dirve by poster in the second car. I figured that Leon was wearing the pumpkin and Ted and I were riding the tail end car.

Loved todays two installments of fallen flags. Loved Eries early paint job ( before the Lakawanna merger ) Like Ted i've never had much experience with the N&W ither than seeing still shots of High hood diesels dragging long chains of hopppers.

Neet Budd ad as well. makes me want to run out and order one [tup] Interesting how the car manufactirers had to take out magazine adds to entice the railway barons. Streetcar manufacturers did the same though.

Pete Wonderfully appropriate story thank's for sharing.[tup]

CM3 Loved your train consist follow up. Truly wonderful bit 'o' research. [tup]. Toronto has three cars in their classic collection. Two PCC's and one small Witt 2766. They will charter out the cars to groups, and once in a while in the summer they will run all three in regular service on the harbour front line. Our museum's mechanical department helps them keep the Witt running. It recieved an entire new underframe two years ago as the rear truck bolster was comming up through the floor. The car is now essentially brand new. We figure it should last another 80 years !!!


Russel Nice costume.[:O] Did you don this to scare off the kids[?] More left over treats for you that way I suppose. [swg]. Yes that Michigan Central depot is immence. I'm glad that it's being retained for new usages. Most of the St Thomas rail facilities are gone. At one point it was a very major rail hub. Both CN and CP, the NYC/MC combo, Pere Marquette ( later C&O ) and the electrified L&PS all served this small city.


Dave welcome back to the land of the living er "undead" [swg][xx(]


Well folks i've much work related paper work to catch up on so i'm away for now.

Rob

[siberianmo]

Wait, wait - oh, well he's outta here!

Okay Manager Ted nice bit you pulled off. Arrived late - departed - dropped in to say goodbye and YOU think you've had it tough! <geesh> Seems that I've been defacto host by virtue of my barkeep responsibilities. Good thing Boris now has Leon to "play" with, otherwise I'd have him shipped to sunny FLA to bunk with "youse." By the by, a friend of mine may want to visit as well. You remember Vito the Hit! doncha [?]

I think you've done a credible job with putting some identities to the Characters in the "train." So let's see - The Proprietor in the loco - three of our gals, Ruth - Lucy and Jemima in the first car - Boris in the green outfit in the 2nd car and Ann back in the 3rd car. Hmmmmmm. [yeah] Why not![?] Good job, Ted with some help from Pete!!

The one thing we don't know is just how old is Boris[?][?][?] I think only Nick knows the answer, and who knows what's goin' on with him these DAZE!![?]

That was a stroke of creativity on CM3's part to come up with the Erie input ... I just happened to have the Fallen Flag in my "pending" file .... so it just was a natural response. Glad he thought of it, because it simply never occured to me .......Eeeeeeerie, isn't it [?] [swg]

Catch y'all later ........

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Guys!

Pete A great story and very appropriate for the occasion for sure! [tup][tup][tup]

The Characters in the pix can be anyone you wish! That's the idea of this "contest" - really no particular answer! [yeah] [wow] [swg]



I haven't received my Winter issue of Classic Trains yet, but will surely look for that RDC! Thanx ...... [tup]

Appreciate your stoppin' by and have one on me!

Russell Received your Email and responded .... thanx! [tup] Been a rather slow night 'round here as far as Trick or Treaters are concerned - the rains of the day and night have surely put the damper on this day for kids! [tdn]

Appreciate the round AND the pix! [swg]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Happy[bday] Boris, and a spooktacular Halloween to all Our Place Members. I guess I can handle a Zombie in honor of tonights celebration, thanks Tom Love the "double take" CM3, "Erie" with eerie.[^] That Road had some peculiar looking passenger rolling stock. The vestibule ends took on an almost European appearance with narrow arched window frames as well. Even the monitor roof line on some older cars had an odd geometry that suggested a Asian influence. Thanks to you and Tom, perhaps other Members will "pile on" this Road at later posts.[tup]

Boris is entirely thrilled with his presents.[alien] Especially that new brick bat he delights in smashing up the decorations with.[:O] Welcome back Dave, I threw out some bait for you re: Pacific Electric which I hope you might bring into sharper focus.[tup] Tom, that's Annie seated in the "boat tail" observation car. Cindy works weekends only, right? As to the other four or five "Simpsons," I'll leave that for our later guests, if there are any.[:(]

Great costume Russell, and the "Grim Reaper" is certainly appropriate for this evening's activity.[v] Well that's okay, Halloween is really more for the younger set that still have a spark of imagination. [#oops]I just sampled the punch bowl![xx(] Gadfrey Daniel, no wonder there are so many "no shows." The "word" must have gone out to everyone that the "punch is spiked."[:O] Okay, Boris, its been grand and please remind me next year to "keep my big mouth shut."[8] Good night all and happy entrails.

[pwolfe]

Hi TOM and all.

[bday][bday]BORIS my present is in the package by the door.

For the party perhaps NICK can ship over some Moorhouse's Pendle Witches Brew after a few of those you dont need a broomstick to fly[swg][yeah].

Thanks for the Flags and Nostalgia. There is a great photo of a Budd RD1 on page 8 of the new Winter 2005 issue of Classic Trains.May I echo MANAGER TED's thanks for the great posts lately. [tup][tup].

TOM Is the person[?] in the 3rd truck BORIS[?].
A tale for Halloween.

It was a very foggy October 31st 1944 somewhere in England as they used to say. Actually it is the exchange sidings connecting the L.N.E.R line to the U.S.A.F. airbase in East Anglia.

Amos Smith a native of Iowa is in the enginemans shanty with his young stoker and the crew of the freight train that has brought the trucks he is to take to the airfield. They are holed up in the hut as there has been a air-raid warning. They had heard the sound of aircraft including one that was very low but the planes were heading further inland.

After a while Jed the singleman poked is head in the door of the hut to let them know that the all-clear had been given and they could move off.

The loco's used on the line to the base were 0-6-0 switcher tank locos built by Baldwin for the U.S. Transportion Corps. The line followed an original branch line for most of the way until swinging off on a new piece of ROW after crossing over the Big Cut River on an old swing-bridge which had luckily survived the branches closure.

After the young Stoker had brought the steam pressure up, they set off down the branch. the fog had gotten thicker but the Corps of Transport track crew had done a really good job of re-laying the track. Still the short wheel-based 0-6-0 was doing its usual waggle like dance. I'm getting too old for this thought Amos as he peered out into the wet fog .

As they approached the curve to the bridge the fog thickened,suddenly Amos thought he could see a light in the 4 foot ahead, with years of experience he closed the regulator and gently applied the brake well aware of the cargo of bombs and other ammuntion a few vans behind the loco. As the train stopped the light was still there
Amos climbed down off the loco as the young stoker could not understand the locals at all.

The source of the light was a lantern in the hand of a old guy in a long overcoat wearing an old railway hat with a badge Amos didnt reconise. As Amos drew level with him the old guy turned on his heel and headed towards the bridge. They had not gone far when the lantern picked out a sight that took Amos back 40 years, back to the family farm in Iowa when he had gone to the barn and came face to face with a Copperhead. Lying between the rails was a landmine dug into the ballast. Feeling someone next to him Amos looked around to see his stoker who said "If we had hit that they would have heard the bang back in the States."

Amos was about to thank the old railwayman who had warned him but he had disappeared. Very gingerly they reversed the train back to the junction where Amos informed Jed the signalman who had a direct phone-line to the air -base who called in the Bomb disposal squad.

Amos told Jed about the old railwayman, as the story went on Jed face turned white.
"That sounds like old Seth. He fell off the Swing Bridge into the Big Cut and drowned 60 years ago."

Great Party PETE

[Trainnut484]

BOO!!

Hello Tom and everyone. I thought I would come in and haunt sit a spell or so. A Miller Lite for me Tom.


Just waiting for trick-or-treators.

I'm [#offtopic] with this post so Boris ring the thing. The next round is on me. Oh and [bday] to you.

Happy Halloween

Russell

[siberianmo]

G'day (evenin') Gents!

Well, this is a revoltin' development! A [bday] party for Boris and hardly a stir was felt in the house ...... And where's Nick, not to mention our Host [?] Strange things are happen' ......... woooooooooooooo -<bump> in the night! [swg]

coalminer3 CM3 appreciate the info and "inspiration" regarding the Erie - great name for the day and good idea too!

Thanx for the round AND the quarters! [tup]

West Coast S Dave Send me an Email when you come up for air. Certainly glad you're still "one of us," was surely wonderin' .......

Thanx for the round! [tup]

Well, let's see - I've Posted TWO Fallen Flags and one NOSTALGIA piece along with a "contest," of sorts. Hardly any takers. Okay - so I'll get back to what I was doin' and check y'all later ........


Who ARE these Characters [?]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[West Coast S]

Afternoon Tom and the gang, betcha thought I fell off the edge of the planet these past few weeks, anyhow I feel like i've fallen off the edge of the planet...Round for the house, your call...

Afternoon all, as you might surmise I have quite a bit of catching up to do. Tom, i'm out of the Federal Protection business after a heated exchange with my superiors, i'll be returning to duty in a new capacity hopefully, decision awaits. I'll have my new puter together soon, so will be able to return to fold on a regular basis..Technology is a wonderfull thing...

Quite a bit has occured during my extended absence, i'll do my best to get up speed and provide some updated postings.

Until later, Boris, lead those size 17 1/2 boondockers over to the bell and do your thing.

Dave

[siberianmo]

Thanx to coalminer3 CM3 a great idea for another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Erie Railroad

Headquarters: Cleveland, OH

Mileage in 1950: 2,341

Locomotives in 1960:

Diesel: 695

Rolling stock in 1960:

Freight cars: 20,372
Passenger cars: 519

Principal routes in 1950:

Jersey City-Paterson, NJ-Middletown-Hornell, NY-Youngstown, OH-Chicago (Hammond-Chicago via rights on the Chicago & Western Indiana)
Marion-Dayton-Cincinnati, OH (Dayton-Cincinnati via rights on the B&0)
Hamilton, OH-Indianapolis, IN (rights on the B&O)
Leavittsburg-Cleveland, OH
Pymatuning, PA-Leavittsburg, OH
Hornell-Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY
Salamanca-Dunkirk, NY
Corning (Painted Post)-Attica, NY
Avon-Rochester, NY
River Junction-Cuba Junction, NY
Carrolton, NY-Eleanora Jct., NY (Brockway-Eleanora Jct. via B&O rights)
Corning, NY-Newberry, Jct., PA
Lanesboro-Wilkes Barre & Scranton, PA
Lackawaxen-Avoca, PA
Newburgh Jct.-Campbell Hall-Graham, NY
Maybrook-Pine Island, NY
Croxton (Jersey City)-Nyack, NY
Piermont-Suffern, NY
NY&NJ Jct.,-Ridgewood Jct.
Paterson (Newark Jct.)-Newark, NJ
Croxton-Midvale, NJ

Passenger trains of note:

Erie Limited (Jersey City-Chicago & Buffalo)
Lake Cities (Jersey City-Cleveland & Buffalo; later extended to Chicago)
Pacific Express (Jersey City-Chicago)
Atlantic Express (Chicago-Jersey City)
Midlander (Jersey City-Chicago)
Southern Tier Express (Buffalo-Hornell-Jersey City)
Mountain Express (Jersey City-Hornell)
Tuxedo (Jersey City-Port Jervis)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon All: Coffee, please, round for the house and money to keep the tunes going.

Was looking through "many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore" yesterday (knew I could find a tie-in to Halloween somewhere) and found the following piece for the Erie Limited. The choice of language gave me pause, but here 'tis.

The Erie Limited

Fast
Modern Luxurious
Human

Individual Seat Coaches, Coach Club car. Superb Dining Car Service, Ultra Modern Sleeping and Parlor Cars. Sun Room Observation Lounge, Radio Equipped

New York – Buffalo- Chicago

Erie Railroad System – The Heavy Duty Railroad

Again this is from the early 30's. Maybe they were trying to set their personnel up against the competition.

Have a good night and see you tomorrow. I promise I'll open the door quietly and try not to shine my caplight directly on anybody.

work safe

P.S. to our "steamed manager (he got to close to the cooker?) IIRC< we do stuff related to model rrs on Wednesday. Can we do nostalgic model stuff for that section?

[siberianmo]

Hello Mr. Manager!

Just waitin' for YOU to arrive - after all, it's YOUR showcase today! [swg]

Okay - let's see, our guest of honor, Boris has already torn into the pile of gifts left under the "tree," which is actually his favorite "stump" from out back - he just had to drag it into the pool room - kinda like a security blanket, donchaknow [?] <huh>

Anyway, he has three new pair (all LEFT) of steel-toed Boondockers for his 17 1/2 size cloven feet; the "indestructible" flashlight he wanted with one of those energy cells that supposedly will outlive the sun; another Dolly; and his favorite of all - a pet Armadillo named Tex. There appears to be remnants of food stuff and drink smattered throughout the remains of what was gift wrap and ribbons, but kinda hard to tell. The gals were in earlier but had to scram when he started "that thing" with "Dolly" ...... not good! Right now he's trying to figure out whether to eat Tex or stomp him. They're havin' a great time ....... [wow]

Those 4x4's across the entrance to the pool room have to stay put, at least until Leon the Night Man arrives, for he's the only one, aside from Nick who seems to be able to calm this "thing" down! <good grief>

Appreciate your "participation" in the Name the Characters of "Our" Place contest ... here it is again:



Hmmmm, we have four original gals - where does Ann fit in [?] Recall that we have Ruth the redhead – Ann the blonde – Lucy the brunette and Jemima the raven haired beauty. Then of course there's Cindy our other lovely who is in a word, stunning. Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble ........

I'm stayin' behind the bar. Remember, this is YOUR showcase, Mate!

Back, baaaaaaaack, baaaaaaaaaaaack, I tell ya ......

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

P.S. I KNEW that was you, Russell! You dress up quite well ... [swg]

[Anonymous]

OOOOPS! Looks like I dropped in on the wrong party. This surely is some strangers Wake. I know things are getting a little slow hereabouts but I didn't think we were leasing the pool room for funeral services.[:)] Hey Tom, make it a Crown and soda, if you please.[^] Good promotional stuff from the Budd folks on the R.D.C.s Sure miss 'em from the days in the Boston area.[tup] YIKES Russell, I hope you don't get buck shot for a treat somewhere. CM3, thanks for the "skinny" on the Crescent. As you know, I'm modeling the Southern R.R. "leg" of that fine train. Your input is really helpful. Tom, I'm pretty sure the three witches are Ruthy, Lucy and Jemima and the cauldron is the guest's cuspidor from the Patoot room. Noooo doubt the enginman is our esteemed and worthy propritor himself, right? Okay, I'll check back when the Bash is in full swing. Help yourself to the punch bowl and dixie cups gents. Just don't ask for the recipe. Its a "top secret" concoction that only [b]Nick{/b] knows. See Y'all a little later.

[Trainnut484]

Hello Tom and all. It's too early for ML so I'll have a hot cup of Folgers and a cold cut sandwich. Definately feels like fall today with the cool weather, rain, and the colorful leaves both in the trees and on the ground.

Thanks for all the compliments who enjoyed my pics for yesterday's Sunday Photo Posting Day. Rob, nice pics of the CP power and the Michigan Centrals St Thomas railway station/ freight shed. That is HUGE [:0]. I wouldn't even try to model that in HO or any scale for that matter.

[bday][bday] to Boris [alien]. Enjoy your cake and watch out for the fireworks candles. Make a wish.

Now, something for HALLOWEEN

DON'T FEAR THE REAPER MUHA-A-A-A-A-A (or insert Vincent Price's evil laugh here)

Yep, that's me

I know pics are for Sundays, but it being Halloween I couldn't resist.

Happy Halloween all,

Russell

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #16

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Budd RDC’s from a 1950 advertisement found in my personal collection.

. . . . . . . . . . Single Car “Limited” . . . . . . . . . .

Here is the new railroad car which is a train in itself – the self-propelled, diesel-powered, all-stainless steel RDC-1. The Budd Company created it to perform a service both to railroads and their patrons, by carrying more passengers on short or long hauls at lower operating cost.

The RDC-1 seats ninety in air-conditioned comfort. With power transmitted hydraulically, from an effortless start it picks up speed like a whippet and stops in a fantastically short space . . . with the easy softness of pushing your hand against a pillow.

Railroad men foresee a wide usefulness for this car. It may be operated as a single unit, or a number of cars can be coupled into a train, operated by one engineman.

Improvement in any field of endeavor begins with imagination. The RDC-1 is another example of Budd practice which is first to envision clearly the need and then bring to bear all the resources of inventive engineering. It follows the modern stainless steel streamliner, the all-steel automobile body, the tapered steel disc wheel and so many other products in which Budd has translated imagination into practical accomplishment. The Budd Company, Philadelphia, Detroit.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Budd . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

CHECK THE MONDAY SUMMARY and INDEX PAGES FOR MORE GREAT NOSTALGIA POSTS!

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Gents!

I see we're off to a fine start and thought it best to try and keep up with the acknowledgments:

coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 07:57:33

Nice break down on the Crescent. I've done a bit of research on that train once or twice, in that I think my mother and I traveled that Southern beauty back in 1950 from Mobile to NYC. The times you listed and the ones that I've found in my 1956 Guide to North American Railroads kinda "clicks" in my mind. Seems we did board in the afternoon and I know we arrived at Penn Station in mid to late morning. It was a beautiful train for sure, and we spent the time in the observation car, diner and the bedroom. A great trip home after spending about 2 weeks (I think) in Mobile. My father was a Mate aboard a freighter bound for Korea - we didn't know then, but it turned out it was for the Inchon landing.

Thanx for the round - the quarters and the kind remarks regarding our Sunday Photo Posting Day!

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 31 Oct 2005, 08:08:37

Nice Inclusive Post to begin the day! [tup] Ah, if only we could see the likes of the boyz you listed - all in one afternoon. No matter, those who do particpate are the ones we'll 'play' to ...... [tup]

That's an interesting thought you brought to mind regarding the smoothsides vs stainless - I like the analogy. My experiences are more with the stainless, however, I too appreciate the look of the smoothsides when all in conformity, lined up with matching motive power and ready to go. I do recall them from the trips to Penn Station and Grand Central as a youngster back in the '40s with my "Gramps." [yeah] lookin' good! [tup]

Okay, here's a little something for the day: (click to enlarge)



Now, let's affix some names to the characters aboard the "train" - names appropriate to the clientele of "Our" Place! Any takers [?][?][?]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

Some fine photo posts yesterday. Rob, Russell, Tom and Doug came through like the 7th Cavalry to save the day. Doug are there plans for the restoration of the steam loco pictured? That is a grand "old lady" and surely deserves a "make over." Tom, the N. & W., yet another Flag of which I'm unfamiliar. Except for seeing endless coal hoopers (per the C. & O.), up until now, I thought it was a freight only Road. Al, what a great "breakdown" of the Texas Eagles I and II. The number of cars built by A.C. & F. surprised the heck out of me. Mopac's Eagles had such a great livery and reminded me a little bit of the old N.Y.C. "grays" decor.

Tom, I'll just snag a Bear Claw and a cuppa that fine Master Blend, thanks. Hey, nobody appreciates the later diesel locos and rail cars more than yours truly.[^] Its just that when it comes to the "Golden Years," those late arrivals simply weren't around. I could really get into "deep do do," if I devulged my tastes on the 1960's to present motive power.[:O] I should admit that I prefer the smooth side cars to stainless because the painted livery is distinctive to each Road. Stainless steel is sort of like that old saying: "If you've seen a shopping center, you've seen a mall." Ooooh![V]

Nick [C=:-)] has laid on some diversions for "It's a Boris' Halloween" Ba***hat sound a lot more fun than anything I conjured up. I mean, how much "fun" can pin the tail on the "Bikni Witches" posterior be? "Trick or Meat, Hollow Weenies, Grab Bag and Shag" are all fine for Boris' [bday] but Nick has the right idea for the traditional holiday spirit.[tup] Rob, see what you will be missing from Noon 'til 7 p.m.? Just as well, I understand from Inspector Clueless that vampire bat season started last mid-night.[xx(] Barndad may arrive as the "Headless Horseman," Tom is our resident Awk festooned "Pirate of Pinzanse," Peter is coming with Juneau in tow as the Wolf, Dan might show up as "The Count of Monte Frisco," Russell will probably be wearing a "War Bonnett," CM3 rented a beard and wig, so it must be "Shakespeare," no doubt Al will come as a Pullman Conductor, Dave could appear as "Agent 007," we won't see Chris as the "Invisible Man," I'm guessing that Nick may don a powdered wig and arrive as that "man of a thousand talents," Benjamin Franklin, Gunns, of course, will emulate "The Red Baron." Have I over looked any members? I'll check again before the Bash.[tup]

Okay, Boris, you look ...eh...resplendent in your Alpine Cap.[:-^] Looking forward to seeing more of the whole gang this p.m. Just had the place exorcized by Father Flannigan, so "Our" Place is as clean as "Boy's Town." Happy rails.[:D]

[coalminer3]

Good Morning All, coffe please, round for the hoisue and $for the jukebox. Since it is Halloween, let's start off with two tunes, "Miner's Silver Ghost ,"followed by "Uncle Billy Richardson's Last Ride."

Lots of fascinating stuff posted over the weekend. I enjoyed reading through all of it and learned a lot. My compliments to the writers/researchers. The Fallen Flags postings are real memory joggers. Also seeing the pictures of the Toronto Witts answered a question I had re their paint schemes. Does the Toronto system have any of them left that they run on special occasions like the Boston folks do with some of their cars?

Since we are looking at classic passenger material. Here's some more information on the Crescent ca. 1930

This was an L&N/A&WP/SOU/PRR operation

Northbound

Lv. New Orleans 9:00 p.m. – L&N
Lv. Mobile 1:15 a.m. – L&N
Arr. Montgomery 6:25 a.m. – L&N
Arr. Atlanta 11:40 a.m. – A&WP
Arr. Spartanburg 5:30 p.m. – SOU
Arr. Charlotte 7:25 p.m. – SOU
Arr. Lynchburg 12:40 a.m. - SOU
Arr. Washington 5:20 a.m. – SOU
Arr. Baltimore 6:35 a.m. – PRR
Arr. W. Phila. 8:43 a.m. – PRR
Arr. No. Phila. 8:55 a.m. – PRR
Arr. New York 10:45 a.m. – PRR

Southbound

Lv. New York 8:40 p.m. – PRR
Lv. No. Phila 10:34 p.m. – PRR
Lv. W. Phila. 10:49 p.m. – PRR
Lv. Baltimore 12:57 a.m. – PRR
Lv. Washington 2:10 a.m. – SOU
Lv. Lynchburg 6:52 a.m. – SOU
Lv. Charlotte 12:01 p.m. – SOU
Lv. Spartanburg 1:50 p.m. – SOU
Lv Atlanta 6:05 p.m. – A&WP
Lv. Montgomery 11:30 p.m. – L&N
Lv. Mobile 4:22 a.m. – L&N
Arr. New Orleans 8:30 a.m. – L&N

Flag stops were at Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, Gulfport, Edgewater Park, Biloxi, Ocean Springs, and Pascagoula “to take on passengers to or from Atlanta and points east.”

“The Crescent Limited will carry northbound from Mobile, and southbound to Mobile, only passengers to and from destinations beyond Alabama; south of Montgomery will carry Montgomery passengers only from or to New Orleans and points west.”

EQUIPMENT

Club Car: New Orleans – New York (Valet service, movable chairs, two sofas, four double seats, buffet, magazines, writing desk and accessories, shower bath.)
Dining Cars – All meals en route
10 sect/2 compt/1 dr. room sleeper: New Orleans – New York
10 sect/2 dr. room sleeper: New Orleans – New York (2 cars)
14 section sleeper: New Orleans – New York (at least one car)
10 sect/2 dr. room sleeper: New Orleans – Washington
2 dr. room/3 compartment/observation car: New Orleans – New York (women’s lounge room, shower bath, maid and manicure service, sofa, movable chairs in the observation end, magazine, writing desk and accessories.)

No coaches.

work safe

P.S. Happy Birthday to Boris

[siberianmo]

Mornin’ Gents!

Just a few words this fine day in acknowledgment of the Posts from yesterday’s SUNDY PHOTO POSTING DAY!

Four of us took the time to participate by posting Pix – thanx to trolleyboy Rob – barndad Doug and Trainnut484 Russell!

passengerfan Al As mentioned, your efforts regarding those elaborations on the MoPAC and Texas Eagles are interesting and thorough efforts. I will be resubmitting them this week if only to ensure that they do not get “lost” in the Ether. Well done, Mate! [tup][tup]

Theordorebear Ted Your Emails and have been received and responded to – thanx! [tup]

Appears as if we’ve got something “brewin’” regarding not only the EMD E8s, but now a not-so-complimentary remarks about MY RDCs!!! Hmmmmmm.

earlydiesels Dan Looks like it's you and me regarding those E8s! [swg] [tup] Glad you stopped by to check out the Pix!

pwolfe Pete Hopefully you’ll be getting’ on board with the Pix submissions. Keep in mind that you can always send ‘em to me as Email attachments …. I’ll Post ‘em for ya!

Your Email was received and responded to – thanx! [tup] See in Hermann on the 19th!

BudKarr BK As is becoming somewhat repetitive – thanx for the continuing support! Means a lot, especially with your submissions over on my new thread. I’ll let that run for a bit, just to test the waters, so to speak. Getting’ just one new customer over here would make it all worth the effort.

See ya soon and have a safe trip …… by the way, Email received and responded to – thanx!

nickinwestwales Nick <huh> [?][?][?] Whazup, Mate! [?] [swg]


Catch ya at the Party commencing at NOON today (Eastern). I see Boris put on his Lederhosen, Alpine Hat and the last of his new steel toed boondockers (both left) for HIS day! [bday] to our cloven footed friend!

So, whatillyahave [?]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]