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[siberianmo]

G’day Gents!

A nice warm, breezy and partly cloudy sky at mid day in mid Continent USA. Temps today are expected to reach 80 (F) – again. Gasoline is now at $2.18 (rounded) up at “Collusion Corner.”

I’ve just completed my ‘epoch’ compilations for Friday’s Veterans/Remembrance Day postings … time to come up for air, so to speak, and I see we’ve had a couple of visitors this day.

I’m not “up” for much more than to acknowledge Theodorebear Ted and passengerfan Al for stoppin’ by.

Al - Appreciate your comments on the [purpleFallen Flag – Reading[/purple]. Other than appearing on the Monopoly board game, I doubt whether too many people know a thing about this once fine railroad in PA. Obviously you do! That is quite a run down you’ve provided us. [tup] Don’t forget to find the time to Post something appropriate this Friday ……..

Ted I’ve promoted this Friday’s Vets Day just about as much as possible through a ‘special’ Post last week and every day since in the daily SUMMARY The support is appreciated! Hope you will have a little “something” to contribute too.

Haven’t seen our friend CM3 yet today. Kinda got used to the early mornin’ Pick us up Posts of his. [tup] If you are lookin’ in on us, consider sending me whatever you’d like to Post on Friday by Email – I will Post it for you. Every little bit helps to keep this “thing” of ours movin’ along.

Almost time for the NOSTALGIA piece ……..

Catch y’all later!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[coalminer3]

Good Afternoon All; coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox. Running late today as it is time for "annual retraining." No, it has nothing to do with railroads.

Note to our 'steamed manager. The CGW post was not there, but the RDG one was - go figure.

PCC's brought back many memories, I rode them all the time when residing in Boston area. The PCCS in Boston ran in a variety of seting; underground, street running, right of way, and also on various elevated segments. The Boston cars had rider windows. It didn't make any difference as you couldn't see where you were most of the time. The Riverside Line, actually an old B&A branch, had an interesting interurban flavor and the PCCS could roll along through there. In 1976, I remember photographing several of them painted red white and blue (a stylized flag design). Most of them were traction orange but were later painted green to correspond with their service on the Green Line.

Classic Trains showed up today. In the back is a set of color shots from the Cincinnati St. Railway. Spread includes a Cincinnati car, a Witt, and a PCC that looks like a yellowjacket on steroids. This jogged my memory a little as IIRC, a lot of the Cincinnati cars went to Toronto. For all I know, I may have ridden some of them during sojourns in that fair city.

There is also a two-page color spread of the SP's only RDC in this issue as well.

Sorry to be so quick, but class calls..........

work safe

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom Time for a Coffee and one of those diet pastries from the Mentor Bakery.
Just looked over your fallen flag of the Reading and thought I would add a short note on their one and only streamliner the CRUSADER.
It was the first streamliner from Budd to have two Observations. Actually it was the first stremliner from any manufacturer with an observation at each end. The CRUSADER was assigned to a twice daily round trip schedule between Philadelphia and Jersey City. The Reading shops rebuilt two G-1sa Pacifics for the new trains and clad the two in Stainless steel to match the following consist. The 117 and 118 weighed in at 306,340 pounds after the shrouding was added the tenders had an indentation to receice the rounded observation car end giving it the appearance of one long stainless steel train .
The CRUSADER was inaugurated on December 13, 1937.
The cars were numbered 1 through 5 with one and five round ended observations with 56 coach seats and 14 seat smaoking lounge in the observation end. Cars 2 and 4 were 56-seat coaches with a 12 seat smoking lounge at one end. Car 3 the center cars was a dining lounge car with 22 seat tavern Lounge and 32 seat dining car. In 1952 the Reading retired the 117 and 118 and replaced them with a pair of back to back EMD F7A units in 1952.
In 1964 the Canadian National purchased the five car streamliner and extensively refurbished the interior before renaming the train LA CHAMPLAIN when it entered service between Montreal and Quebec City.
Former Reading Car 1 was renumbered 302 by CN and the interior was equipped with 59 coach seats a pantry and luggage racks at the vestibule end.
Former Reading Observation 5 was renumbered CN 304 and was equipped with68 coach seats and a snack bar at the observation end.
Former Reading Coach 2 was renumbered CN 303 and received 72 coach seats.
Former Reading Coach 4 was renumbered CN 301and received 54 coach seatrs and a pantry and luggage racks.
And former Reading 3 was renumbered CN and refitted with a 32 seat lounge mid car with a snack food area at one end and the bar at the other.
After service as the LA CHAMPLAIN for several years the cars were transferred to Toronto and operated mixed with other cars to Southwestern Ontario serving Sarnia and Windsor. Rarely at this time were the cars kept in tack as a train. Two of the cars have been sold to US museums and I believe the others were scrapped. They were the first Budd cars operated on the CN other then the RDC's.

[Anonymous]

Well, good Tuesday a.m. to our "breakfast clubbers." I think just a toasted English Muffin, grape jelly and lots-a-cream cheese with a Veldez wash, please Tom. In line with the new projects that Rob and yourself are embarking on; I think I'll look into the possibility of adding an elevated train. Although KCity had only a few blocks of elevated street cars around 6th Street which then plunged into a tunnel and thence across a high bridge to the "West Bottoms," I may employ "artistic license" and run the entire length of the southern leg. This will surely change the focus of the layout but then, why not? Will you fellas be using strap hangers for suspending your subway tunnels? Those N.Y.C. "picket fence" entrances (HO) look mighty good on the URL sent by Russell, don't they?

Although folks could rightly accuse me of "over-kill" and the Pike being "too busy;" my "sixth sense" urges me to use this option. For sure I will need to add a couple more skyscrappers on the back drop before "El" construction begins. That's okay, the real imagery for K.C. has long since been lost anyhow.

Say Pete, remembering the old "Jone's Store" kiddies train, were you able to find anything more on the gauge? We have a "live steam" outdoor R.R. club in Largo, Fl. about 15 minutes from me. Its a 7-1/2" gauge and there is just under 6 miles of main line including about a 90 ft tunnel. "Steamers" and some diesel builders come from far and wide on operating days to "show and tell." The show stopper, for me, is a U.P 4-8-4 Northern class with 6 yellow smooth side cars in tow. An Alco FA sometimes makes an appearance too. The Club has a transfer table for positioning the locos and cars from owner's vehicles to the yards. All in all, it is an impressive operation.[^] Swope Park (in Kcity) and Fairland Park (long abandoned now) both had 15" live steam trains for the kids in the late 1940's. My parents could buy a roll of tickets and know that I wouldn't stray from those trains for "love nor money."[^]

Now, that the FL weather is inhabitable, I'm spending more time outside and thus my posts will drop-off a bit. However, I'll always try to check in at least once a day for what appears to be a steady core of members with much to say and the ability to "say" it well.[tup]

"lest we forget," hopefully, "Our" Place folks and the "Order of the Stools" members won't "forget" this Friday is Veterans Day with appropriate salutations and rememberances. Though the "mainstream media" has all but trashed patriotic observances from their "socially engineered" calendars; perhaps there are still a few of us "reactionaries" left to honor past and present sacrifices being made for us? Okay Boris, I brought the "Old Glory" flags for inside and out. Mentor Bakery has the 3' X 2' "Stars and Stripes" layer cake on order and, for once, you could put a shine on those "Boondockers" this Friday.[V] Oh yes, be sure to put those John Phillip Sousa Marches on the Junk Box also. Happy rails gang. (get it?)

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Reading Lines

Headquarters: Philadelphia, PA

Mileage in 1950: 1,286

Locomotives in:

1930:
Steam: 930
Diesel: 2 (box cab switchers)

1963:
Steam 4
Diesel: 337

Rolling stock in

1930:
Freight cars: 43,298
Passenger cars: 910 (includes MU self-propelled)

1975:
Freight cars: 12,213
Passenger cars: 176 (includes MU self-propelled and RDCs)

Principal routes in 1950:

Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York via ferries, floats)
Philadelphia-Bethlehem, PA
Philadelphia-Reading, PA
Philadelphia & Camden-Atlantic City, NJ
Manville-Port Reading, NJ
Reading-Harrisburg, PA
Reading-Allentown, PA
Reading-Newberry Jct. (Williamsport), PA
Reading-Wilmington, DE
Harrisburg-Hagerstown, MD (through arrangement Hagerstown-Lurgan, PA)

Passenger trains of note:

Crusader (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Wall Street (Philadelphia-Jersey City (New York)
Schuylkill (Philadelphia-Pottsville, PA)
King Coal (Philadelphia-Shamokin, PA)
Harrisburg Special (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg
Queen of the Valley (Jersey City (New York)-Harrisburg)
North Penn (Philadelphia-Bethlehem


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

TUESDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day All! Coffee’s freshly brewed – The Mentor Village Bakery pastry case is full and our <light> breakfasts are ready to order! Whatillyahave [?]

Info for the Day:

(1) Wednesday is Pike Perspectives Day! A good time for those engaged in the model railroading hobby (or any other aspect of railroading for pleasure) to discuss and Post what they are doing, have done, or plan to do. [tup]

(2) Thursday is Fish ‘n Chips Nite!. [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM. [tup]

(3) Friday is Pizza Nite! along with Steak ‘n Fries Nite! [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM. [tup]

(4) Friday, November 11th is Veteran’s Day (U.S.) and Remembrance Day (Canada & Great Britain). In recognition of all those who have served or are serving, let’s do something special on that day at ”Our” Place.

Find something to Post that is reflective of either of the World Wars that has some connection to the railroads, the war effort or both. Advertisements abound from those times, so it shouldn’t be too difficult.

With ample time to prepare, my hope is that we’ll get good participation! [tup][tup][tup]



INDEX Mondays only!

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 05:24:19 (156) Monday’s Info & Summary

(2) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 05:25:39 (156) Fallen Flag – CGW

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 07:33:22 (156) reply to passengerfan, etc.

(4) coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 08:15:01 (156)

(5) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 08:26:34 (156)

(6) passengerfan Al Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 10:58:08 (156) CGW, etc.

(7) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 12:05:44 (156) reply to coalminer3 – Theodorebear – passengerfan

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 13:30:55 (156) NOSTALGIA #20 Ad – SP, Golden State

(9) gbrewer Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 14:10:22 (156) 1st visit

(10) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 14:12:42 (156) Inclusive Post!

(11) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 15:04:07 (157) Classic Juice #8 – PCC

(12) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 15:45:57 (157) reply to gbrewer

(13) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 16:08:34 (157) reply to trolleyboy

(14) trolleyboy Rob Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 16:19:12 (157)

(15) siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 16:47:51 (157) reply to trolleyboy

(16) Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 18:06:45 (157)

(17) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 19:33:21 (157) Inclusive Post!

(18)siberianmo Tom Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 19:48:31 (157) reply to Trainnut484 & Theodorebear

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[siberianmo]

Evenin' Guys!

Been an interesting day 'round here - a new visitor - some pretty good Posts and an all around improvement for sure! [tup]

Some acknowledgements are in order:

Trainnut484 Russell Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 18:06:45

Hey Russell, good seein' ya again!

Hate to break the news - but, only Doug 'n I Posted pix on Sunday! What in the world were YOU drinkin' - smokin' - doin' [?] [swg]

That was one terrific ending to the Chiefs game on Sunday! Gotta hand it to the Coach - he's something else indeed. When he left St. Louis, the "inside scoop" was that he wanted to prove to the ownership that he was a winner. Won the Super Bowl and exited. Don't blame him one bit, for these people are a bunch of AH's in the first degree.

Anyway, we've been following the Chiefs for years and wish 'em well. A malcontent or two on the roster, but then again, that seems to be commonplace throughout the league these days. I admire the Eagles for the stand they took with "TO." [tup] By the by I think Cheerleaders at a pro football game are about as necessary as ....... oh never mind! [swg]

Appreciate the URL on the subway "stuff." Thanx! [tup]

Hope you can participate in this Friday's Veterans/Remembrance Day postings.

Thanx for the round!

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 19:33:21

Fair enough with the CGW - the feedback means a lot in terms of whether these things are getting seen. Thanx!

I've checked out that subway URL before, during my preliminary round of exploring the subject. Good stuff indeed. All aspects of this hobby of ours surely holds so much fascination. Just a week ago, I honestly thought that I'd reached the "end of the line" in terms of finding a place for another layout. Then all of a sudden - the subway thought popped into my grey matter. [swg] I'm really lookin' forward to getting started with this venture. Of course, I still have my "S Capades" to complete - landscaping.

Should we decide to come to the St. Louis area for a Rendezvous I'll have to install a turnstile for access to the Can-Am trainroom! [swg]

Catch y'all later .......

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[Anonymous]

I see it is time to play "catch-up" again after a pretty scant offering on Sunday. Please, just a Crown and soda w/lime twist,Tom Oh yes, I did indeed see the C.G.W. Fallen Flag before my post. I just didn't know what to do with it.[:O] That one really left me in "left field" for anything worthy of mentioning. Al's horror story from his youthful encounter with the C.G.W. is surely enough to advise caution to all of us.[:O] Barndad's pix "rang a bell," however. The slightly desheveled S.R. business car tugged at the memory a bit. The major Roads all had their "executive, brass or business" varnish cars and most were really impressive, inside and out.[tup] HeyRob, lots a good info. on several subjects. Naturally, the P.C.C. "juice" caught my attention "big time." Very grateful for the additional "poop" on the final disposition of so many of those wonderful streamliners. Yes, they would indeed leave any of the contemporary autos in the dust from a standing start. At first, many a left turning driver had wished he had yielded the right of way when a wrecker truck peeled them of the anti climb of a P.C.C.! It was amazing the cavalier disregard some drivers would show for the size and weight of these street behemoths.[xx(] Trainnut Russell that URL on the subway, et al., cars is definately a "keeper." Surely appreciate the thought for all of us into the "juice" side of modeling.[bow]

Gbrewer, I wondered where the first "piggy backs" originated. Now I know, thanks.[^] Say, Tom, the S.P. "nostalga" piece was a good choice, as usual. Oh Rob, the "Dude" mentioned is an old reference out west to a "city dude" or "city slickers" who vaction at "Dude Ranches." BTW, I didn't know the P.C.C.s without the standee's clerestory windows were later issues rather than earlier, thanks. When you can, be sure to checkout Russell's URL. You're going to like it![tup]

I wish I could stay longer but today is laundry, and general maintenance day. Will return a.s.a.p. for further recognition of so many fine postings today. Happy Rails to all.

[Trainnut484]

Good evening Tom and all. I'll have a cold Miller Lite please. Mostly sunny and 70s today. It sure doesn't feel like November.

Tom, I've located a link for RDC subway cars. It may not be exactly what you're looking for, but might be useful somewhat:

http://www.collect-corner.net/subways.html

Thanks Barndad, Chris, Rob, and Tom for the great pics for Sunday Photo posting day. My wife and I were at the Chiefs game yesterday. Chiefs 27 Raiders 23 [tup][yeah][bow][bow]. I did take a few pictures, one being of the Chiefs cheerleaders out in midfield as our team took to the field. Everytime the Raiders had the ball, we definately lived up to our reputation as being the loudest stadium in the NFL [^]. Okay Boris
ring the ding-a-ling thing and a round for the house for me being a little [#offtopic]

This semester is keeping me busier than the last one. Mainly for the technical stuff.

Time for me to skeedadle

Take care,

Russell

[siberianmo]

Hey Rob (again} [swg]

You are in a great position to essentially "have it all" with your layout. What I mean is, you've got the trolley and rail lines. Why not a subway [?] From what I've gathered, these LifeLike sets are just the four cars - one powered, the others not. All are illuminated and they have the running lights and other nice features. They are DCC compatible too. Of course the decoders and all the associated "stuff" has to be purchased separately, but the connections are already in the cars. Makes it far easier.

Anyway, these subway layouts really can get quite involved. I've seen some "wall" and "floor" material for the stations, girders, lighting, and above ground subway "entrances," Really cool stuff indeed. So, if I were in your positioin, I'd just run a simple oval beneath the main layout with an above ground "entrance' for the passengers. You could also have a "trench" affair so that the cars could be viewed at a point on your layout that would be approrpaite. [yeah] You're in a good spot for something like this ....... I can easily spend your money for ya!! [swg]

Catch ya later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[trolleyboy]

Hi tom thank's as alway's. I definatly have something planned for friday that is appropriate.[tup] Watch for it. Also let me know how the subway project develops, I still haven't completely sealed in the " basement of the layout yet " any ideas ? [:D][swg]

Glad you liked the PCC's i figured with you being a new england/ St Lou / well you know what i mean guy that the PCC's may flick your switch. I'm sure that Ted ,Dave, and CM3 will likely go with it as well.

Rob

[siberianmo]

Hello Rob

Sure gets quiet 'round here without our "Canadian Connection" on board! [swg] Sunday's just won't be the same without havin' you make the first Post for Sunday Photo Posting Day! [tdn]

I tried to make the best of it on Sunday, just doesn't seem to be the activity we used to have. Additionally, all of our guys either don't have or cannot Post pix. Oh well ..... It will remain on the schedule of events nonetheless.

Another fine Inclusive Post from you and if gbrewer is lookin' in on us, perhaps he'll get the "idea" right off about the way we do things 'round here! (1) Greet the barkeep - (2) order a drink and (3) acknowledge the other guy's Posts. [tup]

Man oh man, that's a fine piece of work with your Classic Juice #8 - PCC. I'll be sure to add it to the Index for next Monday's Summary. Good job - as always; very informative and educational. A fine fit for what goes on 'round here I'd say! [tup][tup][tup]

I've just about exhausted all avenues insofar as locating those LifeLike subway cars in silver w/blue striping. No problem - there are plenty of "Red Bird" sets available, so I'll order one of those to complete my "inventory." First set is on the way, so there will be a total of 8 subway cars in two separate consists. I've established contact with a Forum member who is "into" HO subway design and operation. He has been very forthcoming with some helpful information and URLs. These Forums are absolutely loaded with some fine information and congenial guys. Problem is, there are so many - too many - idiots frequenting the Forums that at times I really avoid "going out there." <grin>

Hey Rob don't feel "pressured" about us, given your work load. We have one "event" comin' up this week - check the SUMMARY for Friday's Posts for Veterans/Remembrance Day. Hope you can particpate.

Catch ya later and as always, good to see ya! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

For gbrewer

Your Post is appreciated here at "Our" Place and I noticed that you also visited my other Thread on this Forum. Thanx. [tup]

What you had to say fits well with the conversations we have goin' on 'round here.

You may want to know that unlike the majority of other Threads, we are an interactive site where we greet one another, acknowledge one another's comments and have some fun while doing so.

Page one is where to start in order to get the "gist" of what we're all about. If you are interested, I suggest you take a look at last several pages - start at #153 and you'll quickly get the idea.

There's a whole lot to know about us - but that will come in time if you decide to make return visits.

By the by, there isn't very much info in your "Profile," so we really can't get to "know you." Feel free to "check us out" through the "Profile" mechanism .... [tup]

Should you return to this cyber bar 'n grill (an adult eating & drinking establishment) the first drink is on the house! [swg] That's when you'll also get your "official" welcome!

Tom [4:-)][oX)]
Proprietor of "Our" Place

[trolleyboy]

Okay back to business. I think I'll fortify with another CR Tom while I add this next bit of content to the fine collection already contained here in.


Classic Juice #8 The PCC


The PCC car. The final of what I think were the major three tactics / car designs brought out to keep the riding public on the street railways, as opposed to busses or cars.

The PCC or Presidents Conference Committee cars were designed by a committee of the 21largest streetcar companies of North America { Toronto , Philly . Clebveland , KC , St Louis , Chicago , and Detroit being amoung the designing presidents ) The company presidents got together in St Louis in 1934 to brainstorm and come up with a car design to compete with burgeoining compition from cars and busses also to modernize and maintain passenger levels in the final stages of the great depression.


They wated to go with a car that could operate as a one man vehicle( coast saving) most older designs had been so converted at this point) utilizing the revolutionary Pay as you pass ( the farebox ) idea started by Peter Witt in the late teens. They also wanted a lighter weight, faster car ( the older wood and steel cars Witt's nearside's etc had heavy framing and were slow and in some designs rough riding ) which would be comfortable and warm and appealing to modern people.

The cars ended up with a light weight unibidy design which as was envogue at the time streamlined with leather,padded upolstry in single an double seat sets the length of the car. Efficient electric in floor heating and a very quick 0 to 50 mph start up which would leave auto's and cars weighting in a dead start. These were the frist stret cars that could actually maintain a constant quick speed with which they could keep up with traffic. The cars were first put into production at the St Louis car company with the first units rolling off the assembly line in 1936. Pullman standard annd CC&F ( Canadain Car & Foundry of Montreal ) soon had licence to build the design as well. The first CC&F units rolled off the assembly line for the TTC in 1938. Our museum has air electric # 4000 the TTC'S original Candain prototype car. ( still operable as well )



The first batches of the cars had a definate art deco design very curvy and gracefull. They are also known as the airelectric PCC's meaning that the doors and brakes were air powered with the traction power and heaters being electric. In 1944 PS and St Louis car began building the all electric version's which featured as the name suggests all door brake and traction power being electric ( thus simplifying maintenance ) The later all electrics could be mu'd for train service on busy routes. Shaker heights in Cleveland Bloor and St clair in Toronto are two that come imediatly to mind.

The PCC's certainly had staying power they were manufactured from 1936 straight through to 1951. many external changes ocured to the designs over the production spans. A few double ended cars, larger bus type windows, ommision of standee windows, and roof ventilation options, etc etc.

Close to 6000 units were produce for the major Us and Canadian cities as well as several European city systems, in France , Belgium and Holland. The TTC even sold older airelectric cars to Alexandria and Cairo i Egypt. Several Us cities also sold off theiir cars to Turkey or other cities as they discontinued service or replaced with newer LRV's.

At one point in 1965 the TTC webt all PCC sysrem wide with 400 cars they purchased new and the additional cars they bought used a refurbised from US cities finally topping out at 775 cars on the system. Today most PCC's are in musuems however San Fransisco's street railway runs several lines with just PCC cars bought mostly from Toronto & other cities as well. One thing with theirs are that they maintain the cars with their classic donner paintjobs so on San Fran you can see Baltimore,detroit ,Cleveland . PE just about everyone's liveries plying the streets still doing what they do best. Quick efficient point "A" to point "B" oublic transit.

Rob

[trolleyboy]

Good afternoon Tom. I have arrived and I guess I will partake in a CR and a nice roast beef sandwich while I put my thoughts together.[;)]

Though it does not feel like it it is my day off today. I does appear that i will be manning the nightcrew ( midnights [:(!][:(][xx(] ) on every sat and sun in Nov and dec. ( with three regular day shifts in the rest of the week [:(!][B)] ) So weekends will most likley be a wash for me the next 9 weeks or so.


The pictures from Chris's file were quite nice Tom. You can see a Montreal open car peeking out from behind the CP switcher and a Park cars hind quarters slinking around behind the Via "F" unit.I wonder if he took that picture from that angle for anyone's benefit [?] I have to say that i have always loved the massiveness of the FM trainmasters and the CPR old livery ( never should have done away with it ) makes it look even more imposing. Our good friend Chef Nick will i think appreciate the ONR RS10 as well. [tup]


I have recieved my email reguarding the railimages as well. i'll sit tight I don't think that they will be offline that long so for the moment I'll sit and wait.For the time being I have too many shots to transpose over to my photobucket account. There are maybe three that I will rescan and post there so I have access for them later this week.

Congrats on your new aquisition of some rapid transit for the Canam[tup] To me I have always liked the red set the best anyway ( very similar to the TTC's paint on their fierst gloschester built subway cars ) I have only seen the "red" and "green " sets in the LHS's around me. The green cars seem more prevalent now. I've toyed with the thought of obtaining a red set but they aren't that close to the red TTC cars so I may take a pass. MTS brass is still popping out various subway cars in HO but the prices would surly " gag a healthy maggot " to coin a phrase.[:D][:p]


Ted thank's for your concern about my l;essoned appearances here[;)] However i don't think my dental plan will cover Vito's remedial tooth straitening and removal 101. [B)][:0][xx(] Besides he likley wouldn't make it past the boarder checkpoints. He isn't very suttle in his attitude , mannor of dress, or his choice of luggage ( violin case )

Doug Thanks for the fine photo contributions as well. ( you guys really need to add a derail to avoid similar building damage in the future [;)][:p][swg] )
Nice baldwin locomotive as well. Does it still run ?Also did you folks finally gain the identity of your burnt out mystery car ?


Al Is there a railroad that you haven't been a passenger on ? Your first hand knowledge is absolutly astounding [bow] I can hardly wait for the stories in may [tup]
It is too bad that your one and only experiance with the CGW was one that is best not remembered and punctuated by a grievious injury to your mother as well. That's just the kind of thing that would put most people "off" of ever using the train as a mode of travel.

[b[ Tom [/b] Seems that we have a fine first post from a new soarse [tup] My only recollections of the CGW are of the photographic nature. The deep maroon / burny red colour of their diesels was quite striking. Any shot's I have seen of them pre CNW take over were of well used but maintained consists of early F units and RS2's and RSC 2's

I can't beleave that the SP actually used the term "dude" in and ad from the 50's. California really hasn't chanfed much over the decades has it ?[:D]



Well fplks I'm concocting a content post for later this aft so I'm away to prepare it.


Rob

[gbrewer]

I remember the Chicago Great Western well.

Our house had, when I was a boy, a very fine view of the Chicago Great Western tracks. From the paired dinning room windows, I could see south across four vacant lots and Great Western Boulevard to the right-of-way where long, steam hauled, freight trains ran.

Railroads were the dominant means of transportation at the time. Not only were they the major providers of passenger and freight transportation, but mail and express arrived regularly by train in Villa Park as well as in most large cities and small towns throughout America. Even the newspapers came by train; I remember seeing the motorman on the CA&E tossing off bundles of the evening Daily News at the Ardmore station. The Interstate highway system wasn’t begun until over a decade later, and airlines were still in their infancy. Rail traffic, freight and passenger, reached unprecedented levels during the war years. There were massive movements of military goods and personnel, and because of gasoline and tire rationing, much traffic, previously lost to the highways, returned to the rails. Demand on railroad personnel and equipment was tremendous. During and for awhile after World War II there were many trains loaded with army goods: I remember seeing big guns, tanks, half-tracks and jeeps.

I was still quite young when the war ended, but business on the CGW continued at a high rate. I remember solid trains of refrigerator cars, yellow ones marked Armor and red ones marked Swift. There were also trains of black tank cars. The CGW carried truck trailers on flat cars. They were an innovator of this service.

Not long after the war, the Great Western quickly dieselized. They were the first railroad of my acquaintance to do so. Typically using six General Motors F units, trains became even longer: frequently well over 100 cars. Soon I started seeing the big steam engines, scattered mid-train behind the diesels, being hauled dead to the scrap yards of Chicago. That was about 1948. I never got over the sense of loss I felt; I have been a devoted steam fan ever since.

There were two passenger trains a day in each direction. The one I remember seeing most was a gas-electric powered car with RPO.

[siberianmo]

G’day All!

PASSENGER TRAIN NOSTALGIA #20

Here’s something to enjoy regarding the Southern Pacific (SP) from a 1951 advertisement in my personal collection.


Did you hear what the Cowboy said about the “Golden State”?

”WHAT A RIDE FER DUDES! SHE’S THE SMOOTHEST AND PURTIEST THING ON WHEELS FROM CHICAGO TO ARIZONA OR CALIFORNIA! ANOTHER OF SP’S WONDERFUL WAYS WEST!”

We think, you’ll enjoy our ”Golden State,” especially if you’re an experienced traveler. We have many friends who repeat, winter after winter, “chasing the sun Southwest” on this smooth, extra-fare S.P. & Rock Island streamliner. It’s convenient. Takes you via El Paso and Southern Arizona’s winter resorts to Palm Springs & Los Angeles.

She’s been re-streamlined, too, from stem to stern. We’ve issued a folder to celebrate the event and would like to send it to you. Helps you choose your accommodations, whether Pullman (Drawing rooms, Compartments, Bedrooms, Roomettes) or Chair Car (economical; Coffee Shop).

By the way, the ”Golden State” is extra fast, too – 44 ¼ pleasant hours, Chicago-Los Angeles or vice versa. Fine connecting streamliners. Perhaps you’d like to try another great S.P. route, going home. That way you see twice as much, usually for no extra rail fare. The little map shows how.

Why don’t you plan on the ”Golden State” for this winter or next summer? And meantime, let us send you that folder?

”GOLDEN STATE,” Chicago-Los Angeles, via El Paso, Douglas, Bisbee, Tucson, Phoenix, Palm Springs, 44 ¼ hours. Through Pullmans, Minneapolis and St. Louis to Los Angeles. Through Chair car, Minneapolis-Los Angeles. Connecting service to San Diego.

SP AMERICA’S MOST MODERN TRAINS


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

CHECK THE MONDAY SUMMARY and INDEX PAGES FOR MORE GREAT NOSTALGIA POSTS!

[siberianmo]

G’day Gents!

A bit windy, warm and cloudy here in mid-Continent USA. Gas at “Collusion Corner” was at $2.20 (rounded) and expected to continue downward – at least until someone sneezes at OPEC, Venezuela, Mexico, the North Sea, etc. [swg]

I see we’ve had a bit of activity this AM at the bar, so some acknowledgements are in order:

coalminer3 CM3 Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 08:15:01

Regarding the Veteran’s/Remembrance Day Posts – absolutely, true stories surely are appropriate. Also, if you can, Post on Thursday if your plans will have you away from the Ether on Friday. [tup]

I’d appreciate some help – the Fallen Flag for the day was posted at 5:25 AM. Your Post was about 3 hours later. Just curious, when you logged on, did you see it [?] This is not intended to the chastisement so much as I really want to know since it appears that my efforts to get the “word” out early isn’t reaching the intended audience. If not, then I’ll have to figure out some other way. Feedback really helps.

The only way I know of getting to the most current information is to log on – go immediately to “Active Topics” and then call up the Posts for a period of time – I recommend “last 12 hours.” It works for me. Also the use of the “Refresh” button BEFORE one Posts will bring up most current “stuff” too.

For what it’s worth, I’ve encountered those “This is not the way out,” signs in my comin’s and goin’s. In Maine it would be more like, “Ya can’t get there, from heah!” [swg]

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 08:26:34

That era you referred to was the tail end of the most difficult in my experiences with our civilian not-so-civil population. I’ve already chronicled my self-defense involving a dirt-bag, pimpled face, “H – no, I won’t go” creep in Manhattan. I hope that his nose never healed. The stares from the less than adoring public didn’t bother me as much as the comments made loud enough for all to hear. Those were not good times for the guys in uniform. Seems like there’s another effort underway to get this crap started again – but you know what [?] We’re not making them “go.” [swg]

The N-scale layout is only second to the one I saw out in San Diego’s Balboa Park. That layout has to be the largest anywhere for the scale. I don’t have a “thing” for N per se, but appreciate detail and workmanship when I see it. I wish I had taken more shots out in KCity, but the ones Posted seemed to have done the trick here and over at the CS. Got lots of favorable comments there too. Somethin’ about trains ……. [tup]

passengerfan Al Posted: 07 Nov 2005, 10:58:08

Sure glad someone has picked up on the CGW this fine day! Appreciate the comments, as always. [tup] Walkin’ definitely could be hazardous to one’s health aboard a train – today, yesterday and most probably tomorrow. Never can take anything for granted while within a moving vehicle of any type. You being a former Navy man and accomplished rail traveler know all about what I’m sayin’. [swg]

Regarding law suits, then and now. There’s no question that today it would be a “given” to go the litigation route. The times were far different, people were too and so was the “common sense” factor in and out of the court system.

Okay – gotta get about the rest of this day. Watch for the NOSTALGIA piece comin’ up soon! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[passengerfan]

Good Morning Tom and the rest of the gang. Guess I'll have a coffee and one of the diet pastries from Mentor Bakery.
Just had to answer the CGW fallen Flag.
Somethings one never forgets and my one and only ride on the CGW Mills Cities was one of those. I was only four at the time but I remember we had traveled all night from St. Paul on this miserable excuse for a train my motrher my tyounger brother and I were on our way to rejoin my dad in Missouri. We had traveled from Vancouver Canada on the Great Northern including the brand new streamlined Empire Builder from Everett to St. Paul. in February 1947.
The Mill Cities was an old heavyweight train as wwe were approching the station at our final destination my mother with my brother in her arms suffered a terrible fall when the slack went out and the sudden jerk caused her to fall. So we arrived in St. Joe with my mother going immediatly to the hospital and not released for about two weeks. Here was my brother and I meeting my dads side of the family for the first time and we were strangers to them. But being midwesterners my brother and my worst fears were soon put at ease by our new aunts Uncles cousins and grandmother. We never rode the CGW again after that one experience and made yearly trips to the Northwest via the CB&Q, CRI&P, and GN to vist my mothers familys for a couple years until we relocated to Seattle. Then it was once a year trips to the relatives in Missouri but never again did we ride CGW rails. I guess today if something like that had happened their would have been a lawsuit. But as I recall the CGW picked up the hospital bill and that was that.
The train we rode after that was the CRI&P Twin Star Rocket and then the local CB&Q train between Kansas City and St. Joe.
Have to get back to the books for now.

[Anonymous]

Mornin' early people, Tom, think I'll go with a "eye opener" this a.m. I got into a pretty good discussion last night that ran later than it shoul have.[:O] Sooo, maybe a "Stoli" Vodka, V-8 and hold the garbage please. That'll "kill me or cure me!" Some nice pix yesterday, especially the N gauge layout at KCity Union Station. Seeing the background balconies and main entrances of the building takes me "way, way back." The last time I was there was on X-mas leave 1964. I changed Santa Fe trains there enroute from Chicago to Tulsa, OK. The El Capitan "high level" cars were on the first leg and Budd stainless on the last. I never failed to meet nice folks on those lengthy rail treks. I suppose the uniform served as a "ice breaker" too.

Later in the 1970's, when people had their "fill" of the prolonged Viet Nam War, I began driving my 1965 Dodge Polara instead. There was a lot of resentment against the war then and thoughtless people made it known through "icey stares" and the proverbial "cold shoulder" toward uniformed service people. I really didn't need 2-1/2 days of rude behavior from unkempt, surly "dirt bags" in a confined space and, of course, driving (via I-State) was much faster and a lot cheaper. Even though I knew where and why this misplaced animosity was coming from, I must be honest and say it really irked me.[V] Sorry, I'm [#offtopic] again.[#oops]

Oh yes Tom, there are many who would point out the "vanilla" aspects of some rolling stock, i.e. subway cars, R.D.C.'s and the like. I don't happen to be one of that number. For me, if its on rails, I'm in the game.[^] Passengerfan Al mentioned a distictive "feel" of the ride peculiar to the R.D.C. and I agree. For lack of a better word, I refer to the motion as a "gliding" effect. It is a much lighter unit than the heavier Budd cars and a feather weight compared to ealier standard cars. I can tell you that my ride from Baltimore to Wash. D.C. in the cab of a B & O RDC-3 was purely a pleasure.[tup] The engineer let me operate the air chime at grade X-ings until we neared the yard limit in D.C.[tup] It was at night and there were only a couple of other "regular" passengers on the train (single unit). Some things you never forget and that is one of them.

Okay Boris, you didn't need to bring the [soapbox] out.[alien] I can take a hint, see you's gents later.

[coalminer3]

Good Morning All: Coffee, please; round for the house and $ for the jukebox.

Rough weekend off to our west; a coworker from that part of the world said that several of her relatives lost their homes, but thankfully, no injuries or fatalities in her family.

Enjoyed reading through the posts. The MN&S locomotive is a true "beast." It looks like it was running (at least from the pictures). Does it still have its original power plant. My exposure to Baldwins was mostly samller ones on the Lehigh Valley; truly a unique sound. They'd pull anything you could put behind them.

I enjoyed the response to the Boston subway story about "picking a PCC." BTW, the maps in the MBTA stations are often out of date; again something done to confuse the tourists, I guess. The station that is currently called "Downtown Crossing" used to be Washington St. All of the big department stores were located there and it was a transfer point as well to what is now called the "Orange Line." Anyway (and this is the God's truth) there was a set of signs that read as follows. "This Way Out." Follow along and you came to a second sign which said "This Way Out." Follow along and you came to a third sign posted on a bricked up doorway. The sign said "This Is Not the Way Out." Sort of a metaphor for life.

I trust it will be O.K. to post wartime material a little ahead of schedule as I'll be offline on Friday. Do true stories count as well?

work safe

[siberianmo]

Mornin' Gents!

I just received a notice from RailImages.com informing me that they are going to be shutting down the service (pix storage & posting) some time this week as they are installing newer equipment. For all who store pix on that site, they will not be available. This will impact my Posts as well and I am going to place as many as possible over on PhotoBucket.com until RailImages comes back on line. Any of you who have accounts should have received your RailImages notice.

Well, yesterday was perhaps the lightest Sunday Photo Posting Day! that we've had since it began several weeks ago. Only barndad Doug and I particpated. My plans [?] No changes, we'll keep Sunday open for Pix, with the bar CLOSED. I don't expect lots of "narratives" on Sunday, that's what the rest of the week is for. [tup]

One acknowledgement:

passengerfan Al Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 21:31:33

That run between Calgary and Edmonton has been discussed, several times, for institution of a light-rail connection. I would think that modern DMUs from the RDC lineage would be far better. For a trip like that (177 miles/285 km), comfort surely would of prime importance and consideration.

Yes, RDCs were absolutely perfect for the runs you described and it is indeed puzzling why we cannot reinstitute rail connections between our metropolitan areas by more modern technology. High speed rail is fine - but I'm thinking MAGLEV. After all, we are in the 21st century. All the talk of the Northeast Corridor in the U.S. and the Corridor in Canada - can you imagine having the most modern equipment on the line for those routes [?] Ahhhhh, yes, dream on.

You know if Congress and the President goes for it, organizations like H&R Block may be on the outside lookin' in concerning tax preparation "services." Sorry, but anything and everything that can be done to make the taxation less intrusive and easier to file is what we should be pressing for.

Catch ya later!

Tom[4:-)][oX)]

[siberianmo]

Here’s another Fallen Flag for the gang from Classic American Railroads:

Chicago Great Western Railway (CGW)

Headquarters: Chicago (moved to Kansas City)

Mileage in 1950: 1,458

Locomotives in 1963:

Diesel: 141

Rolling stock in 1963:

Freight cars; 4,490
Passenger cars: 33

Principal routes in 1950:

Chicago-Olewein, IA-Omaha, NE
Oelwein-Minneapolis
Oelwein-DesMoines, IA-St. Joseph, MO-Kansas City, MO
Clarion, IA-Mason City, IA-Austin, MN-Hayfield, MN
Osage, IA-Rochester, MN-Red Wing, MN
Red Wing-Mankato, MN
Simpson-Winona, MN

Passenger trains of note:

Blue Bird (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Great Western Limited (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Rochester Special (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Red Bird (Twin Cities-Rochester)
Legionnaire (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Minnesotan (Chicago-Twin Cities)
Mills Cities Limited (Kansas City-Twin Cities)
Nebraska Limited (Twin Cities-Omaha
Twin Cities Limited (Omaha-Twin Cities)


Enjoy! [tup]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[siberianmo]

MONDAY’s INFO & SUMMARY of RECENT POSTS

G’day All!

Info for the Day:

(1) Wednesday is Pike Perspectives Day! A good time for those engaged in the model railroading hobby (or any other aspect of railroading for pleasure) to discuss and Post what they are doing, have done, or plan to do. [tup]

(2) Thursday is Fish ‘n Chips Nite!. [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM. [tup]

(3) Friday is Pizza Nite! along with Steak ‘n Fries Nite! [dinner] Dinner begins at 5 PM. [tup]

(4) Friday, November 11th is Veteran’s Day (U.S.) and Remembrance Day (Canada & Great Britain). In recognition of all those who have served or are serving, let’s do something special on that day at ”Our” Place.

Find something to Post that is reflective of either of the World Wars that has some connection to the railroads, the war effort or both. Advertisements abound from those times, so it shouldn’t be too difficult.

With ample time to prepare, my hope is that we’ll get good participation! [tup][tup][tup]



INDEX Mondays only!
Generic URL: Just insert the index page in place of “106,” copy ‘n paste ‘n “go,”

http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?page=106&TOPIC_ID=35270

-or- insert the index page in the address portion of this page (at the top).

Fallen Flags (passenger ops)

106/150 SP……. 106/150 MoPac . 108/155 WP …… 109 Frisco
112 CNR ………. 112 Heralds …… 114 ACL ………… 115 SAL
116 D&RGW ….. 118 RI .………… 119 D&H ………… 120/144 PRR
122/144 NYC …. 124 UP.………… 125 AT&SF …….. 127 B&O
128 CM&StP.…. 129 CB&Q ..……. 130 Soo Line ...... 133 C&NW
134 SP&S …….. 136 GN ………… 139 B&M ..……… 140 NYNH&H; NH
141 MEC ……… 142 BAR .………. 145 NP …………. 146 L&N
147 Wabash ….. 148 C&O ………. 148 KCS ……….. 151 N&W
152 Erie ..……… 152 IC ………….. 154 NPR .………. 155 SR

Passenger Train Nostalgia

110 ……… MKT Combined Fallen Flag and Ads
112 ……… CNR Ad - Super Continental Time Table
113/144 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #1 ”Start ups” 1800s & early 1900s
117/144 …. Passenger Train Nostalgia #2 Ad - Vista-Dome sleeper obs-lounge
121 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #3 Ad - CP Hotels & Lodges
124 ………. A tale of Classic Trains BC Rail RDC trip
127 ………. B&O Ad - Strata-Dome
127 ………. B&O Ad – Diesel Electric Trains
129 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #4 Ad - CN Hotels, Ltd.
130 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #1 Poster - East Coast Route
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #5 Poster - CP 1886
133 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #6 Poster - CP 1950s
134 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #7 Poster - Washington & Old Dominion Railway
134 ………. Personal RR journey CPR’s “The Canadian”
135 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #2 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #3 London & Northwestern & Caledonian Railways
137 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #8 Ad – Great Northern
139 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #9 Ads – Great Northern
140 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #10 Ad – Union Pacific
141 ………. Nostalgia 1956 Hotel Ads
142 ………. Nostalgia Fairbanks-Morse motive power Ad
143 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #11 Ad - PRR – The Jeffersonian
145 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #12 Ad – NP
146 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #13 Ad – L&N
146 ………. Great Britain Nostalgia #4 Poster - Silver Jubilee
147 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #14 Ad – Budd & Wabash
148 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #15 Ad – C&O
149 ………. HERTZ Ad
151 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #16 Ad – Budd RDC (1950)
153 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #17 Ad – Budd RDC (1950)
153 ………. North American Steam Loco Wheel Arrangements
154 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #18 Ad – Budd RDC (1953)
155 ………. Passenger Train Nostalgia #19 Ad – Budd RDC (1954)

Classic Juice by trolleyboy ROB

116 Classic Juice #1 (The London & Port Stanley L&PS)
123 Classic Juice #2 (The Niagara St. Chatharines Toronto Railway NS&T)
131/155 Classic Juice #3 (The Montreal & Southern Counties Railway –MS&C)
134 Classic Juice #4 (The Brantford and Hamilton B&H)
142 Classic Juice #5 (The Berlin & Water Street Railway - B&WSR)
146 Classic Juice #6 (The Nearside Car)
148 Classic Juice #7 (The Peter Witt Story)

SUMMARY

Name - Date/Time - (Page#) – Remarks

(1) barndad Doug Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 07:03:41 (156) Inclusive Post! and Pix

(2) Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 07:11:18 (156)

(3) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 08:10:04 (156) Sunday’s Info & Summary

(4) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 09:10:50 (156) Pix from Chris’ album

(5) barndad Doug Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 10:19:45 (156) Pix

(6) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 14:46:36 (156) Pix – N-scale layout

(7) bjdukert Duke Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 15:20:18 (156) Thank you

(8) siberianmo Tom Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 17:54:55 (156) reply to barndad – Theodorebear – bjdukert

(9) passengerfan Al Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 21:31:33 (156) RDCs

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That’s it! [tup][;)]

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]
Proprietor of “Our” Place, an adult eating & drinking establishment!

[passengerfan]

Good evening I know we are closed on Sunday but my guests just departed and I wanted to get back to my RDC reminising from the other day when they arrived.
Another intersting RDC trip was on CP Rail when they were operating between Calgary and Edmonton just before VIA Rail Canada. The Consist was an RDC 2 and an RDC 1 and the interesting feature was they operated with borrowed Stewardesses from CP Air to see if this would attract more riders. The stewardess pushed a drink car down the aisle of the two cars and served drinks just like they had on the planes. They only served snacks as well as the drinks as the RDC's operated during non-meal hours. I don't know if they were successful or not for Via Rail took over the service shortly after I rode these RDC's.
RDC trips I wish I had ridden would include the Northwestern Pacific to Eureka on the lone SP RDC.
The AT&SF pair of RDC when they operated between Albuquerque and El Paso.
I don't know whether it was my imagination playing tricks with me or not but I seem to recall a rather unique swaying motion the RDC's had compared to regular trains and i was always able to sleep easily on the cars. Of course being a truckdriver for many years it has been said I could sleep standing up in a line waiting for dispatchers to get off the phone with other drivers.
When I get a chance I will try and catch up on some of the other postings you have had the last few days but I still have to get ready for finals in another week and a half.

[siberianmo]

Evenin’,

Just checkin’ out the place for tomorrow and saw the Posts that were dropped through the mail slot, along with the pix from barndad Doug.

The boyz and I just returned from our Sunday afternoon up at Can-Am Gorge and this was the first time Boris had his pet Armadillo, Tex with him. Between Leon, Boris and the Armadillo things were a bit “interesting” to say the least. Phew ……. How in the world did I ever get involved with these characters [?][swg]

barndad Doug Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 07:03:41 and 10:19:45

Appreciate the narratives you provided along with the Pix. Some good “stuff,” indeed.

Is that MN&S a U-boat? Sure looks like it. Also, the SR heavyweight is a great looking car. Didn’t know that they had that color scheme back in those times.

Don’t be concerned about the RDC pix – there will be other Sundays! Appreciate the thought – isn’t it “The thought that counts” [?] [tup]

As busy as you’ve been, it’s nice to know you’ve been able to keep up with the conversations goin’ on ‘round here. We may be down in numbers, but the quality of Posts has never been better.

Theodorebear Ted Posted: 06 Nov 2005, 07:11:18

You ARE the Manager ‘round here and have the keys – why not just slide in and enjoy the place [?] I’ve had more than my share of wakin’ up early – it’s a way of life for me. Reveille is at 5:10 AM, and most times I’m awake well before that …….

Interesting thoughts you posit regarding the “look alike” subway cars. I like the way you worked your way through your thoughts to come up with your conclusion. [tup] Ever think that RDCs also fall into the same category, but somehow there IS a place for ‘em on many pikes [?] [swg]

Ordered my first subway set today and it is to ship tomorrow, so I’m on the way!

For me, there’s absolutely NOTHING that can rival a matched consist of passenger cars with head end motive power in equally matched livery. Ummmmmmmm Um – looks great! [tup] I have two VIA Rail Budd stainless sets, powered by F40PH locos, one VIA Rail smoothsides blue & yellow livery, powered by EMD E8 A/A units, two Amtrak Superliner consists (Phase III and IV), powered by AMD103’s and two Amtrak “Horizon” {Phase III) and “Amfleet” (Phase I, II, III) sets, [powered by F40PH locos. I get just as much enjoyment looking at them at their platforms in Union Station as I do watching ‘em make the journey round the Can-Am. A great hobby, isn’t it [?]

bjdukert Duke 06 Nov 2005, 15:20:18

Saw your note tacked to the door! Nice of you to take the time to share your thoughts …… [tup]

Okay – I’ll see y’all in the ‘morrow!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

[bjdukert]

Afternoon

QUOTE: A loss of a friend is indeed a difficult thing to handle. For as long as you two knew one another and enjoyed the relationship, I offer: Friendship doesn't end with death - you will always have those memories - and pictures. Be ever more thankful that you and Jack shared some time on this Earth.

Tom

Thank you very much for the kind words Tom and yes the memories will always be there. The other thing I didn’t realize was how many pictures I do have with him as I was going through them about a week ago to post some in the CS and they will always be with me. I wanted to post this in Our Place as I thought you would see it here first and again Thanks.

Duke

How about if I leave this tacked to the front as I didn’t know you were closed on Sunday.

[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

Here are some Pix you may have seen before of the N-scale layout on display in KCity’s Union Station in September.

Click to enlarge!

















That’s it – Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!

[Anonymous]

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[siberianmo]

Even though ”Our” Place is CLOSED on SUNDAY’s we do observe Sunday Photo Posting Day!!

Here are some Pix from an album I created for Chris taken at The Canadian Railway Museum at Delson/Saint-Constant, Quebec, Canada:

Click to enlarge!

















Enjoy!

Tom [4:-)] [oX)]

REMINDER! Read the SUMMARY!