wanswheel Kansan (UP) Kansas City to Salina Ohioan (PRR) Chicago to Columbus Connecticut Yankee (NYNH&H) New York to Springfield
Kansan (UP) Kansas City to Salina
Ohioan (PRR) Chicago to Columbus
Connecticut Yankee (NYNH&H) New York to Springfield
Johnny
Also, can I suggest or ask the moderators to please delete some of the above pages of listings to avoid confusions and save space!
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ZephyrOverland Here is Henry's list cleaned up..... BLACK=STATE, BLUE=RIVER, RED=NICKNAME, PURPLE=CITY, GREEN=OTHER
Here is Henry's list cleaned up.....
BLACK=STATE, BLUE=RIVER, RED=NICKNAME, PURPLE=CITY, GREEN=OTHER
Appreciate what you did, ZO. Just fixed a couple of color codes, added a few explanations, and raised a few questions. I hope we can start another two listes: one people named trains and animal named trains. By the time we finish that, intergrate the lists, we should have every named train ever run! Not.
Alaskan – CBQ/NP Chicago-Seattle
Ak Sar Ben
Arizona Limited - RI/SP
Arkansas and Texas Express - Frisco - St. Louis-Oklahoma City
Bay State (Massachusetts) – NH
Californian - CRI&P/SP - Chicago – Los Angeles
California Fast Mail - RI/SP - Chicago-Los Angeles
California Limited – ATSFCalifornia Zephyr - CB&Q/D&RGW/WP
Carolina Special – SOU
Colorado & Kansas City Express - CRI&P - St. Louis – Denver
Colorado Eagle - MP - St. Louis – Denver
Colorado Express - C&NW/UP - Chicago-Denver
Colorado Flyer - AT&SF - Chicago – Denver
Colorado Limited - Alton/CB&Q - St .Louis – Denver
Colorado – New Mexico Express – D&RGW – Denver – Grand Junction
Colorado Special - C&S/FW&D - Denver – Dallas
Connecticut River Night Express - NH/BM/CV/CP/Quebec Central - New York-Quebec
Dakota 400 - C&NW
Dakota Limited - M& St. L - Minneapolis- Watertown
Delaware Valley Express - PRR - Philadelphia-Trenton (go to Stroudsburg, PA?)
Del-Mar-Va Express - PRR - Philadelphia-Cape Charles
Empire State Express - NYC
Fast Flying Virginian (C&O) Washington to Cincinnati
Florida Arrow - PRR/L&N/ACL/FEC - Chicago-Cincinnati –Miami
Florida – Cuba Special - PRR /ACL/ FEC - New York – Key West
Florida East Coast Limited - PRR/ACL/FEC - New York – Miami (named for the railroad?)
Florida Limited – FEC - Jacksonville – Palm Beach – Miami
Florida Special - PRR/RF&P/ACL
Florida Sunbeam - RFP/SAL - Washington-Miami/St. Petersburg
Floridan - IC/C of G/ACL/FEC - Chicago – Miami
Georgia Cracker - CoG - Atlanta-Savannah
Georgian – NC&STL/L&N - St. Louis – Atlanta later C&EI provided Chicago service
Idaho Express - UP - Salt Lake City-Pocatello
Idahoan – C&NW/UP Chicago – Portland
Illinois Limited - CSS&SB
Illinois Limited - North Shore - Chicago-Milwaukee
Indiana-Ohio Special - B4 - Detroit-Indianapolis
Hoosierland Indiana Railroad (interurban) Fort Wayne - Indianapolis
Iowan (IC) Chicago to Sioux City
Iowa-Nebraska Express - Milwaukee Road - Chicago-Omaha/Sioux City
Iowa – Nebraska Ltd. - CRI&P – Chicago – Omaha
Kansas City-Florida Special - SLSF/SOU
Kansas Limited - MP - St. Louis-Kansas City-Wichita
Kentuckian – C&O – Washington – Cincinnati
Kentucky Cardinal - IC - Louisville-Memphis
Louisiana Eagle –T&P – New Orleans – Ft Worth
Louisiana Limited - TP - New Orleans-Ft. Worth-El Paso
Louisiana Sunshine – MP – St. Louis – Shreveport
Louisiane – IC – Chicago – New Orleans
Penn Texas - PRR
Maine Coast Special - BM/CV/CN - Portland-Montreal
Marylander - CNJ/RDG/BO - Jersey City-Washington
Memphis – Californian - CRI&P/SP Memphis – Los Angeles
Michigan – MC – Chicago – Detroit
Michigan Boulevard – IC- Chicago – St. Louis (famous Chicago waterfront street)
Michigan Central Limited –NYC - Chicago – New York
Michigan Express –PM/C&O – Detroit – Chicago
Michigan Limited – MC – Chicago – Detroit
Michigan Special (NYC) Cincinnati to Detroit
Minnesota 400 – C&NW – Mankato – Wyeville
Minnesota & Black Hills Express – CMSTP&P – Chicago – Deadwood
Minnesota Marquette - Milwaukee Road - Chicago-Madison-Minneapolis
Minnesotan (CGW) Chicago to Minneapolis
Mississippian - Gulf & Ship Island - Jackson-Gulfport
Miss Lou - IC - Jackson-New Orleans
Missourian – MP – St. Louis – Kansas City
Missouri Flyer – CB&Q – St. Louis – Kansas City – Lincoln
Missouri Limited – CB&Q – Chicago – Kansas City/St. Joseph
Missouri River Eagle - MP – St. Louis – Kansas City – Omaha
Missouri River Express – C&NW – Minneapolis – Omaha
Missouri State Express - Chicago & Alton - St. Louis-Kansas City
Nebraska-Chicago Limited - CBQ - Lincoln-Chicago
Nebraska Zephyr (CB&Q ) Chicago to Omaha
New England States-B&A (NYC)
New Mexico, Utah and California Express - DRG/RGW - Denver-Ogden
New York & New Orleans Ltd. – PRR /Sou/W of A/ L&N – New York – New Orleans
New York & Washington & Seaboard Airline Express – PRR/RF&P/SAL/ New York – Miami
New York Boston Express - NYNH&H – New York – Boston
New York – Cincinnati – St. Louis Limited – B&O – New York – St. Louis
New York Day Express –B&A/NYNH&H – Boston – New York
New York Express – B&A/NYNH&H – Boston – New York
New York – Florida Ltd. – NYNH&H/PRR/RF&P/ACL/FEC – Boston - New York – Miami
New York Limited – PRR – New York – Atlantic City
New York Night Express – B&O/Read/JC – New York – Washington
New York Special – NYC- New York – Detroit
New York State Express – BA-NYC – Boston- New York – Buffalo
New York – Washington – Atlanta – New Orleans Express – PRR/SOU/W 0f A/ L&N –New York – New Orleans
New Yorker – LV/PRR – Buffalo – New York
New Yorker – PRR – New York – St. Louis
New Yorker –DL&W, NKP
New York Mail-DL&W
Ohio Special –NYC – Cincinnati - Detroit
Ohio State Limited - NYC
Ohio Special - Q&C/SR - Cincinnati-Jacksonville
Oklahoman - Frisco - Kansas City-Tulsa
On Wisconsin - CMSTP&P – Madison – Milwaukee – Chicago
Oregon-Washington Limited - CNW/UP/Oregon RR & Nav/Oregon Short Line - Chicago-Portland
Pennsylvania – Lehigh Express – LV/PRR – Buffalo – Philadelphia (named for railroad and river?)
Pennsylvania Limited – PRR – New York – Pittsburgh
Pennsylvania Special – PRR – New York – Chicago
Pennsylvanian - PRR - Chicago-New York
Rochester – Minnesota Special - C&NW – Chicago – Mankato
St. Louis & Colorado Express – CRI&P – St. Louis – Denver
South Dakota Express - CNW - Minneapolis-Huron
State of Maine NYNH&H, B&M, Msine Central, New York - GCT - Bangor (and Concord, NH)
Tennessean – Sou/N&W/Sou – Washington – Memphis
Tennessean - MP - St. Louis-Memphis
Texas Eagle - MP/T&P
Texas Flash - Frisco - Kansas City-Joplin/Dallas
Texas Rocket (CRI&P) Kansas City to Dallas
Texan – MP/T&P – St. Louis – Texas
Texas – Colorado Limited – C&S/FW&D – Dallas - Denver
Texas Limited – MP – New Orleans – Houston
Texas Ranger – AT&SF – Chicago – Galveston
Texas Special - SLSF/MKT
Texas Zephyr - C&S/FW&D
Utah Express - UP - Ashton-Pocatello-Salt Lake City
Utahn (C&NW, UP) Chicago to Los Angeles
Vermonter - CV - White River Junction-St. Albans
Virginia and Ohio Express - NW - Cincinnati-Norfolk
Washingtonian - MILW - Spokane-Tacoma
West Texas Express (AT&SF) Amarillo to Lubbock
West Texan – T&P – Dallas – El Paso
West Virginian – C&O – Washington – Cincinnati
West Virginia Limited - Western Maryland - Cumberland-Elkins
Wisconsin Lake Special - CNW - Ironwood-Chicago
Wyoming Valley Express – LV – New York – Wilkes Barre (named for local Native American tribe who lived there before white settlers drove them out to the west. State of Wyoming is named after them and the area of the Wyoming Express is Wyoming County, PA.)
Alaskan - CBQ/NP - Chicago-Seattle
Delaware Valley Express - PRR - Philadelphia-Trenton
Florida East Coast Limited - PRR/ACL/FEC - New York – Miami
Michigan Boulevard – IC- Chicago – St. Louis
New York State Express – NYC – New York – Buffalo
New York – Washington – Atlanta – New Orleans Express – PRR/SOU/W 0f A/ L&N –New York –
New Orleans
New York State Express - BA - Boston-Albany
Pennsylvania – Lehigh Express – LV/PRR – Buffalo – Philadelphia
Wyoming Valley Express – LV – New York – Wilkes Barre
I saw a photogrpah of the E-unit with the logos. They may not have lasted long. Perhaps they were there for inaugural publicity purposes. In any case it was definitely a D&RGW train as well as an MP train. It would handle local passengers Denver- Colorado Springs, Pueblo. This was always true. The MP power usually did run through, but on occasion was swapped at Pueblo.
The person with the first list should get to ask the next question? It is pretty extensive.
Wow! Can there be more? Not counting duplicates, I get a total of 130 so far, and I can add four more off the top of my head. I do query some of the routings, but I do not have a complete file of all timetables from the beginning of naming passengers trains into the late fifties.
Oh, the Colorado Eagle did not have logos on the engines; if we are to be accurate historically, we will speak of emblems or heralds, since the word "logo" (so far as I know) as used to describe a device used to identify a product did not come into the English language until in the seventies. (I'm being pedantic.)
Henry, you really did not need to perform your work of supererogation. Thanks, anyway for collecting them all together. I did note each poster's contributions as soon as I could, marking the duplicate listings (122 out of 251 names). I was wondering if anyone would note the reverse spelling of "Nebraska," and you did.
If anybody can top 59 new names, he is the winner. Otherwise passengerfan takes the honors. I think we are still missing some that were named in the question about compass directions.
One more day?
Henry, you don't have to edit again but I did add a rocket and a chief to my answer. -- Mike
I HAVE UPDATED AND REINTIGRATED LIST TO INLCUDE AL IN STOCTON'S ADDITIONS:
I have taken all lists/answers and cut and pasted an integrated aplphabetical list to my ability. I have also added some notation for clarification where I felt necessary or wanted to inject opinion or question. Again, this is based on what has been offered by others with the execption of Ak Sar Ben, Empire State Express, New England States, and the New York Mail(DL&W) which are mine, and is done as a public service.
Ak Sar BenArizona Limited - RI/SPArkansas and Texas Express - Frisco - St. Louis-Oklahoma CityBay State (Massachusetts) – NH
Californian - CRI&P/SP - Chicago – Los AngelesCalifornia Fast Mail - RI/SP - Chicago-Los Angeles
California Limited – ATSFCalifornia Zephyr - CB&Q/D&RGW/WPCarolina Special – SOUColorado & Kansas City Express - CRI&P - St. Louis – DenverColorado Eagle - MP - St. Louis – Denver Colorado Express - C&NW/UP - Chicago-Denver Colorado Flyer - AT&SF - Chicago – Denver Colorado Limited - Alton/CB&Q - St .Louis – Denver Colorado – New Mexico Express – D&RGW – Denver – Grand Junction Colorado Special - C&S/FW&D - Denver – DallasConnecticut River Night Express - NH/BM/CV/CP/Quebec Central - New York-QuebecDakota 400 - C&NWDakota Limited - M& St. L - Minneapolis- WatertownDelaware Valley Express - PRR - Philadelphia-TrentonDel-Mar-Va Express - PRR - Philadelphia-Cape CharlesEmpire State Express - NYCFast Flying Virginian (C&O) Washington to Cincinnati Florida Arrow - PRR/L&N/ACL/FEC - Chicago-Cincinnati –Miami Florida – Cuba Special - PRR /ACL/ FEC - New York – Key West Florida East Coast Limited - PRR/ACL/FEC - New York – Miami Florida Limited – FEC - Jacksonville – Palm Beach – Miami
Florida Special - PRR/RF&P/ACLFlorida Sunbeam - RFP/SAL - Washington-Miami/St. Petersburg
Floridan - IC/C of G/ACL/FEC - Chicago – MiamiGeorgia Cracker - CoG - Atlanta-Savannah
Georgian – NC&STL/L&N - St. Louis – Atlanta later C&EI provided Chicago serviceIdaho Express - UP - Salt Lake City-Pocatello
Illinois Limited - CSS&SBIllinois Limited - North Shore - Chicago-MilwaukeeIndiana-Ohio Special - B4 - Detroit-Indianapolis
Iowan (IC) Chicago to Sioux CityIowa-Nebraska Express - Milwaukee Road - Chicago-Omaha/Sioux City
Iowa – Nebraska Ltd. - CRI&P – Chicago – OmahaKansas City-Florida Special - SLSF/SOUKansas Limited - MP - St. Louis-Kansas City-Wichita
Kentuckian – C&O – Washington – CincinnatiKentucky Cardinal - IC - Louisville-Memphis
Louisiana Eagle –T&P – New Orleans – Ft WorthLouisiana Limited - TP - New Orleans-Ft. Worth-El Paso
Louisiana Sunshine – MP – St. Louis – Shreveport Louisiane – IC – Chicago – New OrleansPenn Texas - PRRMaine Coast Special - BM/CV/CN - Portland-MontrealMarylander - CNJ/RDG/BO - Jersey City-Washington
Michigan Central Limited –NYC - Chicago – New York Michigan Express –PM/C&O – Detroit – Chicago
Minnesota & Black Hills Express – CMSTP&P – Chicago – DeadwoodMinnesota Marquette - Milwaukee Road - Chicago-Madison-Minneapolis
Minnesotan (CGW) Chicago to MinneapolisMississippian - Gulf & Ship Island - Jackson-GulfportMiss Lou - IC - Jackson-New Orleans
Nebraska Zephyr (CB&Q ) Chicago to OmahaNew England States-B&A (NYC)
New York Mail-DL&WNew York State Express - BA - Boston-AlbanyOhio Special –NYC – Cincinnati - Detroit
Ok her is the balance of my list I posted yeaterday.
Nebraska – Chicago Limited – CB&Q – Lincoln – Chicago
New York Mail – DLW- Buffalo – New York
New York – Washington – Atlanta – New Orleans Express – PRR/SOU/W 0f A/ L&N –
New York – New Orleans
New Yorker – DL&W- Buffalo – New York
Ohio State Limited – NYC – New York - Cincinnati
Oregon – Washington Limited – ORW&N – Portland – Seattle
State of Maine Express – NYNH&H/MeC – New York – Portland
Texas Special – Frisco/MKT – Chicago – San Antonio
Texas Zephyr – C&S/FW&D – Denver – Dallas
All of the train Names With Washington in them refer to the city not the state and are not included
Ok There are a few others if I think about it I can come up with but I don't have the time right now.
Al in Stockton
daveklepper CORRECTION The Colorado-New Mexico Express went to Alamosa (as well as Grand Junction?) It was the overnight from Denver connection for the narrow gauge day train San Juan to Durango at Alamosa
CORRECTION The Colorado-New Mexico Express went to Alamosa (as well as Grand Junction?) It was the overnight from Denver connection for the narrow gauge day train San Juan to Durango at Alamosa
According to the March 1915 edition of the Official Guide, the Colorado-New Mexico Express was a Denver-Grand Junction train on the Denver and Rio Grande. I wouldn't be surprised if we were both right, since train names and their associated endpoints were always in a state of flux on the Denver and Rio Grande and Rio Grande Western until the end of WWI.
Even editing, things are running together...but I hope it is helpful anyway.
CORRECTION: The Colorado Eagle should be MP and D&RGW, not just MP. And for a while the E-units did have both logos, not just MP
State of Maine, NYNH&H, B&M, Maine Central, New York - GCT - Bangor (and Concord, NH)
I am trying to keep up with the above lists and combining them...hopefully sometime tomorrow I will be able to pass it on to all here. I will eliminate obvious trains named for people, rivers, etc. and include only those named for states.
Idahoan (UP) Cheyenne to Pocatello
Kansas Cityan (AT&SF) Chicago to Kansas City
Kansas City Chief (AT&SF) Chicago to Kansas City
City of Kansas City (WRR) St. Louis to Kansas City
State of Maine (B&M) Lawrence, Mass. to Portland
New Yorker (NKP, DL&W) Chicago to New York
New York Mail (NKP, DL&W) Chicago to New York
New York Express (GTW, CN, LV) Chicago to New York
New York Special (NYC) Chicago to New York
Oklahoma Rocket (CRI&P) Kansas City to Oklahoma City
Texas Chief (AT&SF) Chicago to Galveston
http://www.cohs.org/repository/Archives/cohs/web/cohs-6714.jpg
George Washington (C&O) Washington to Cincinnati
West Virginian (B&O) New York to Parkersburg
Here is half my list today and I will post the other half tomorrow.
Alaskan – CB&Q/NP – Chicago –Seattle/Portland
Arkansas and Texas Express – Frisco – St. Louis – Oklahoma City
Arizona Limited - CRI&P/SP/Pullman - Chicago – Tucson-Phoenix
California Fast Mail – CRI&P?SP – Chicago – Los Angeles
California Limited - AT&SF - Chicago –Los Angeles
California Zephyr - CB&Q/D&RGW/WP - Chicago – Oakland
Connecticut River Night Express – NYNH&H/CV/CP/QC – New York – Quebec City
Dakota 400 - C&NW – Chicago – Rapid City
Delaware Valley Express – PRR – Philadelphia – Trenton
Del – Mar – Va Express – PRR – Philadelphia – Cape Charles
Florida Special - PRR/RF&P/ACL/FEC - New York – Miami
Florida Sunbeam - PRR/SOU/SCL - Chicago – Cincinnati – Tampa
Floridan - IC/C of G/ACL/FEC - Chicago – Miam
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Georgia Cracker - C of G - Savannah – Atlanta
Idaho Express – UP – Salt Lake City – Pocatello
Illinois Limited- CNS&M- Chicago – Milwaukee
Indiana – Ohio Special – NYC – Detroit – Indianapolis
Iowa – Nebraska Express CMSTP&P – Chicago – Omaha/Sioux City
Kansas City – Florida Special - Frisco/Sou/FEC Kansas City – Miami
Kansas Limited – MP – St. Louis – Wichita
Kentucky Cardinal – IC – Louisville – Memphis
Louisiana Limited – T&P – New Orleans – Ft. Worth
Maine Coast Special – BM/CV/CN – Portland – Montreal
Marylander – CNJ/RDG/B&O – Jersey City – Washington
Michigan Special – NYC – Cincinnati – Detroit
Minnesota Marquette – CMSTP&P – Chicago – Minneapolis
Minnesotan – CGW – Chicago – Minneapolis
Al - in - Stockton
California Limited - ATSF
Colorado Eagle - MP
Pennsylvania Limited - PRR
California Zephyr - CB&Q/D&RGW/WP
Carolina Special - SOU
Bay State (Massachusetts) - NH
passengerfan The only one I see you have missed was the DW&P that crossed from Ontario to Minnesota. I think it is pretty close to a tie so whoever wants the next question go to it. From what I have understood the GN and NP both operated into Winnipeg from the Canadian border via trackage rights and the GN did own some trackage in Winnipeg itself and remember a GN switcher was stationed at Winnipeg. Al - in - Stockton
The only one I see you have missed was the DW&P that crossed from Ontario to Minnesota.
I think it is pretty close to a tie so whoever wants the next question go to it. From what I have understood the GN and NP both operated into Winnipeg from the Canadian border via trackage rights and the GN did own some trackage in Winnipeg itself and remember a GN switcher was stationed at Winnipeg.
Edited to make it a little harder by asking for the roads.
I'll add C&O into Sarnia and Windsor by carferry, although C&O later got into Windsor by way of the Detroit River Tunnel.
O M G ! as they say in computerese! How could I miss the CP flight across the Pine Tree state after having just read about it!!!!! And yes, the NYC Ottawa Div. did both Ontario and Quebec while the Canada Southern was Ontario.
A few more: GN & NP in B. C. and Man., SI in B. C., NYC in Quebec as well as in Ontario, BAR in N. B., DW&P in Ontario,
Which road crossed the St. Mary's River at Sault Ste. Marie (Henry, this is the way it is spelled on the map); the CP into Mich. or the Soo into Ontario? Or, did both cross?
CP in Maine, Vermont, Mont. (unless the interchange with the GN in Sweetgrass was right at the border), and N. D. (or did CP track end in North Portal at the Sask-N.D. border). the CN came into Port Huron, Mich. and into Vermont (do you consider the GT from Island Pond to Portland a Canadian or US road?), the CP entered Detroit on NYC trackage rights, so this does not count.
I'll take a stab, for starters anyway:
US Roads, Canadian track…Delaware and Hudson (Napierville Jct. To Montreal)
New York Central (Ottawa Div., Canadian Southern
Buffalo to Detroit).
Wabash Detroit to Buffalo
Great Northern
Canadian Roads, US track:
Canadian National: Grand Trunk; Grand Trunk Western; Central Vermont; Duluth, Winnipeg and Pacific
It's been six days so being one who answered the previous question I will ask a question.
Which US RRs owned trackage in Canada and which Canadian RRs owned trackage in the US and which provinces and states did this take place?
Keep in mind this is fifty years or older.
In August of 1977 when Great Lakes shipping was on strike and no ore boats were working and DM&IR had no ore to ship,DM&IR did run. I saw a train which carried a solid consist of logs powered by SD 9-s.
Plenty of interesting replies here. So, it would seem that my three flat cars with logs running on my small RR are not out of place. I shall sleep well tonight.
Thanks folks.
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In the 90's...the 1990's...I saw logs being loaded on Conrail team tracks in Deposit, NY and Emporium, PA.
KCSfan 50 years ago all over the south pulp wood would be shipped by rail to the paper mills. Wood yards were common sights along the rail lines in those regions where southern pines grew and were harvested. Most all southern railroads had large fleets of pulpwood cars on which the cut logs would be loaded at these woodyards. Today the wood yards and the pulp wood cars are nearly, if not all, gone and pulp wood is shipped directly from where it is cut to the paper mills by truck.
Another source of fiber for paper mills was woodchips from sawmills--which were carried in covered hoppers from the mills to the mills; some sawmills sent their chips by highway in, I think, 25 foot semitrailers.
Back to woodracks--I can claim to have taken a ride on one fifty-five years ago, with the permission of the conductor, who recognized me. Of course, we acknowledge that times have changed, and I would not advise anyone of any age to do such.
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