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Posted by wanswheel on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:36 PM

Illinois Central commuter trains at the old depot on Randolph Street.

http://transportation.northwestern.edu/docs/2006/2006.07.17.Carlson.Publication.pdf

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:41 PM

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But Michigan Southern also used the IC Central Station at the time.   Except possibly one thorugh train from NYC.   But please continue.   Any one else know the obvious one left out?

 

 

Are you thinking of Michigan Central?  I forgot to include them in my previous post - they also used Central Station.

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Posted by daveklepper on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 6:43 AM

But Michigan Southern also used the IC Central Station at the time.   Except possibly one thorugh train from NYC.   But please continue.   Any one else know the obvious one left out?

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Posted by ZephyrOverland on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:33 PM

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Can you name the stations and the reasons for the two stations in each case?  Need not be complete but give it a try.

 

I'll start with the NYC.

Most of its trains running on the former Lake Shore and Michigan Southern used La Salle Street Station and its BigFour subsidiary Chicago-Cincinnati trains used Central Station because those trains utilized IC trackage between Chicago and Kankakee.

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:38 AM

Can you name the stations and the reasons for the two stations in each case?  Need not be complete but give it a try.

I have my doubts about the UP (did not serve Chicago, just through trains on other railroads), and you did leave out one very different but obvious one.   Hint:  The one left out had most trains running through a downtown or near-Loop terminal to terminate at the opposite side of the city from where its trains came from.

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, December 21, 2009 9:08 AM

B&O, PRR, NYC, IC, SF, UP and possibly RI.

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Posted by passengerfan on Monday, December 21, 2009 6:05 AM

Just wanted to wish everyone the best of the Season.

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Posted by Deggesty on Sunday, December 20, 2009 5:16 PM

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How can a railroad line have more than two terminals, one at the end of each linel?  Everything along the line would be a way station, wouldn't it, no matter how busy? 

 

 

Al, look at it this way: railroad A was built into Chicago, and its terminal is E; railroad B was built into Chicago, and its terminal is F; railroad C was built into Chicago, and its terminal is E. In time, A, B, and C are consolidated into one system, D--but there is no immediate change in the usage of the terminals. Thus, D has at least two terminals in Chicago.

Also, think about the CNW system in Omaha: the C&NW used the UP station, and the Omaha road used its own station for the trains that came down west of the Missouri.

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Posted by al-in-chgo on Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:31 PM

How can a railroad line have more than two terminals, one at the end of each linel?  Everything along the line would be a way station, wouldn't it, no matter how busy? 

 

 

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Posted by daveklepper on Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:16 PM

OK, I'll assume I was correct and ask the next question:   Name all Class I railroads/railroad systems in the 1928-1932 period that had at least two different Chicago terminals for passenger service.

 I don't include the C&O which had a day train from Cincinnati that terminated at Hammond but sent through cars to Chicago over the New York Central System. 

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 10, 2009 9:51 AM

Or are you thinking of another accident and another train?

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 8, 2009 2:28 AM

Your question makes sense.  Since the Tom Thumb belt braking was not a train in revenue service, I assume that you are talking about one carrying passengers other than just the engineer and a mechanic.  I seem to remember that the first run of the De Witt Clinton on the Schenectedy and Mowkawk caused an injury by some important politician being to close to the track.   Is that memory correct?

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Posted by henry6 on Monday, December 7, 2009 9:21 AM

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All right, I am again confused.  Should I re-pose my quiz...that since I am an easterner I am again thinking of a train of my youthful days?

Unless anybody wants to take it from here, this is the question on the board...please, I am old and thinking can be a chore...

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Posted by daveklepper on Monday, December 7, 2009 3:27 AM

I just posed a question of the other thread so go ahead and pose a new one here.  Or I am willing to discount the Tom Thumb belt break and have a go at finding the first "in revenue service" accident?

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Posted by henry6 on Friday, December 4, 2009 7:51 PM
All right, I am again confused.  Should I re-pose my quiz...that since I am an easterner I am again thinking of a train of my youthful days?

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Posted by daveklepper on Thursday, December 3, 2009 1:50 PM

 You might say that the first USA railroad accident occurred when the belt broke on the Tom Thumb and the horse won the race.   B&O, 1829.

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, December 3, 2009 6:12 AM
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Posted by henry6 on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 7:45 PM

First things first...the train I was thinking of:  the answers to the clues included Baltimore as one city of origin, the O indicated Buffalo as in NY on Lake Erie, and the Central in question was the Northern Central, the line the PRR used north out of Baltimore to Harrisburg.and Williamsport before turning west to Emporium Jct. and then north to Keating Summit, Olean and Buffalo.  The train: The Buffalo Day Express (southbound the Baltimore Day Express, but thats not what I was thinking of).

So I have to go again: and again my eastern homesteading comes into play.

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Posted by Southerngreen1401 on Wednesday, December 2, 2009 6:11 PM

 

What was the name of the Railroad of the first railroad accident in the USA and where did it happen?
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Posted by henry6 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 8:43 PM

Ok...its past 9:30PMEST 12/1/09.  But since I don't have another question handy, lets let this ride until tomorrow night.  See if there are any more guesses...or better yet, answers!

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Posted by henry6 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 3:22 PM

#19 No, too far west to be central.  #20 OH No!  But O yes, and definitely not Toledo.

IGN, by the way is more close to central.  I will return after 9pm EST tonight to collect five more chances before giving the answer.

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Posted by daveklepper on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 1:27 PM

As far as I know, the only railroad that was evicted was the Baltimore and Ohio, which did have to use Jersey Central and Reading tracks to reach the PRR tracks to Penn Station.   (I think they also had use a short stretch of Lehigh Valley tracks, whose trains stayed in Penn Station for the duration of LV passenger service, although not all LV trains went to Manhattan, some continued to use the Jersey Central station in Jersey City, then switched to the PRR Exchange Place Jersey City station.    Hope this helps.

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Posted by narig01 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 11:42 AM

 

As I'm not going to be here to watch, I'll make these points 1. Railroads Cheasapeake & Ohio(C&O)(Purred like a Kitten, Ohio O+Ohs)  Central Railroad of New Jersey(Central) .  Possible connections Reading, Western Maryland or Pennsylvania RR.

      One other comment during WWI (USRA) several trains were run into Penn Station (Pennsy) for other railroads. for a number of years during and immediately after WWI any number of long distance trains did run into Penn Station. (Pennsy did eventually evict them)

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Posted by KCSfan on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 11:17 AM

How about Toledo Ohio. Would that be one of the terminal cities?

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Posted by Great Western on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 10:59 AM

 Illinois Central? Wink

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Posted by henry6 on Tuesday, December 1, 2009 9:13 AM

Reviewing your thinking, you are certainly on the right track.  And you are central on the O, just not in the right central area.

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Posted by wanswheel on Monday, November 30, 2009 10:22 PM

Way too late I realize "big but not Four" = a big city, but not a Big Four city, which makes my questions about Cincinnati and the Penn Texas completely ridiculous. On my mind now is a big city that required PRR trackage rights on other railroads via a medium big OH city ending with the letter O. If that's the terminal and if PRR is the railroad, the train from New York couldn't be the famous one because its name would be okay in New England. I'm just thinking out loud. This post does not contain a question!

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:28 AM

#18.  NO!  Review the accepted railroad,  the geography, the "OH's and O's", and the "Central" issue.  There are only two questions left unless the dispatcher wants us to work overtime and gives us orders to proceed beyond the end of the division.

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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, November 29, 2009 10:23 AM

The Penn Texas?

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Posted by henry6 on Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:57 AM

#17.  Way off central!  So, no.  Didn't even pass through.

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