Actually in Lincoln's time it was simply the Hudson River Railroad. South of the 60th St. yard the tracks came down 11th Ave. to 33rd St., curved southeast to 10th Ave. at 30th St. Except for local trains to Spuyten Duyvil, all passenger trains were moved to Grand Central in 1871. Lincoln's station became the milk depot.
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Lincoln's Inauguration
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Lincoln's Car
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Since the NY and Harlem taversed the Harlem Valley to Chatham, NY thence west to Troy, the railroad with stops at Rhinecliffe, Poughkeepsie, etc, was the New York and Hudson River Railroad. But the Harlem did come into Manhatten as did the New Haven a few years ahead of the NY&HR RR.
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If I had read your last post carefully, I would have seen that it was the Harlem Railroad's station, just below City Hall, that brought Abe Lincoln in from the north.
Johnny
Yes indeed, but my question is about Lincoln's arrival on a railroad in the state of New York, and not about either of his arrivals in Philadelphia: the first from Trenton as scheduled, and returning to Philadelphia from Harrisburg in secrecy instead of going directly to Baltimore as planned. I referred to Barack Obama because his ride today had inspired the question, and also to see if anyone would point out that 30th Street Station in Philadelphia wasn't built yet.
Mike
Thursday morning, I named the Trenton and Philadelphia (1851 Guide), which had been renamed the Philadelphia and Trenton by 1868.
Johnny, we continue to wait for someone to name the railroad that brought Lincoln to the 30th Street Station in New York on February 19, 1861.
Mike, what's the status on this quiz?
Deggesty I forgot that he came by way of New York.
I forgot that he came by way of New York.
That's true, and for 70 years there was a depot on West 30th Street.
Excerpt from A Train Ride For Mr. Lincoln by Marc B. Grayson
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22A+Train+Ride+For+Mr.+Lincoln+by+Marc+B.+Grayson%22&btnG=Search
At Troy, the President's party was transferred to a new train of the _____ _____ Railroad. The car provided for the President was described as: "one of the handsomest, perhaps, ever run in this country. The decorations are blue, with silver stars, and the rich sofas, carpeting and luxurious chairs give to the car the appearance of an elegantly furnished salon." Lincoln spoke briefly at Hudson, Rhinebeck, Poughkeepsie, Fishkill, and Peekskill. At 3 P.M., the special train arrived at the new 30th Street depot in New York, the nation's largest city with a population exceeding eight hundred thousand.
wanswheel President-elect James Buchanan rode the P&C from Lancaster to Columbia in 1857, same year it was reorganized into PRR Philadelphia Division. The 30th Street Station that President-elect Lincoln arrived at was elsewhere and was demolished in 1931.
President-elect James Buchanan rode the P&C from Lancaster to Columbia in 1857, same year it was reorganized into PRR Philadelphia Division. The 30th Street Station that President-elect Lincoln arrived at was elsewhere and was demolished in 1931.
The reprinted Guide has this caveat: "We must warn against writing to the advertisers herein as a satisfactory reply cannot be expected. For this please accept our most humble apologies." Often, the railroads made no mention of the necessity of using a ferry to reach their trains. There is a list of the various piers and ferry slips and stations used by the railroads that served New York CIty.
wanswheel The old thread is full of junk and treasure. Barack Obama will board a train at 30th Street Station. Abraham Lincoln arrived at 30th Street Station on what railroad? Mike
The old thread is full of junk and treasure.
Barack Obama will board a train at 30th Street Station. Abraham Lincoln arrived at 30th Street Station on what railroad?
You guys aren't going to believe this but I just attempted to post a message to this and the old Classic Trains Questions and got another one of those G-- D--n Post Pending Moderation messages on both threads.
Mark
KCSfanNo cigar for you yet. The earliest gas electric wreck happened many years prior to 1940.
Incidentally I also posted this question to the old thread without any problem whatsoever. Since others are used to viewing that one, if it continues to work OK, we might want to discontinue this new one.
Wanswheel wins. See my reply on the other Class Railroad Questions thread.
Missouri & North Arkansas motor car and KCS train crashed at Tipton Ford in 1914.
http://mysite.du.edu/~jcalvert/railway/trainord.htm#Tipt
I also posted this answer at the old thread using the reliably functional Quick Reply.
TZ,
No cigar for you yet. The earliest gas electric wreck happened many years prior to 1940.
July 31, 1940; Pennsylvania Railroad; Front Street and Hudson Drive Cuyahoga Falls, OH. ??? 43 dead.
This question has to do with gas electric motor cars which I've heard referred to as interurbans without wires. These doodlebugs rapidly gained popularity early in the 20th century and saw years of service on both Class I's and shortlines. What was the first accident of a gas electric in the U.S. that resulted in the death of a passenger or employee? Name the railroad, the year and the location.
Classic Railroad Quiz.
Just for fun, a thread to quiz forum members on railroad subjects. Person who answers the question correctly gets to post the next quiz question.
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