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Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:45 PM
who got the Conrail office train equipment?

saw some boxcars marked as cushoin cars. What are some products that require cushioning, and what is used as the cushioning?

saw on a BNSF car carrying steel beems written in white chalk Erie, PA 3-31-00. what does that stand for?
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:45 PM
who got the Conrail office train equipment?

saw some boxcars marked as cushoin cars. What are some products that require cushioning, and what is used as the cushioning?

saw on a BNSF car carrying steel beems written in white chalk Erie, PA 3-31-00. what does that stand for?
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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:53 PM
Mikey, many box cars have cushion underframes. Most of these are hydraulic. The center sill, drawbar to drawbar, is actually a separate piece from the car itself, connected by a hydraulic centering device, in order to cushion impacts and slack action. Other cars have end-of-car cushioning, with springs to help absorb the changes in velocity.

Anything that you don't want damaged would be better off in a cushioned car. Newsprint and auto parts are a couple of the "biggies".

Now, as to your BNSF car with the markings, it sounds like a location and a date to me. Just more graffiti.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:53 PM
Mikey, many box cars have cushion underframes. Most of these are hydraulic. The center sill, drawbar to drawbar, is actually a separate piece from the car itself, connected by a hydraulic centering device, in order to cushion impacts and slack action. Other cars have end-of-car cushioning, with springs to help absorb the changes in velocity.

Anything that you don't want damaged would be better off in a cushioned car. Newsprint and auto parts are a couple of the "biggies".

Now, as to your BNSF car with the markings, it sounds like a location and a date to me. Just more graffiti.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, November 18, 2005 1:40 PM
Possibly rehashing a question here: [%-)] Other than the fact that
a 39 ft. section of rail fits in/on 40 ft. flat or 40 ft. gondola, is there
another reason that the rails were generally 39 ft. long?
Besides asking the question, this thread was buried back 37 pages,
wanted to bring it back to page 1 for awhile.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, November 18, 2005 1:40 PM
Possibly rehashing a question here: [%-)] Other than the fact that
a 39 ft. section of rail fits in/on 40 ft. flat or 40 ft. gondola, is there
another reason that the rails were generally 39 ft. long?
Besides asking the question, this thread was buried back 37 pages,
wanted to bring it back to page 1 for awhile.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, November 18, 2005 2:29 PM
I believe that rails were cut to that length at the rolling mill. You may be on the mark that it's based on the length of most freight cars at the time. CF&I Steel in Pueblo CO may be the last active rail rolling mill in the United States.

Growing up on the South Shore Line and riding home from high school from the 115th Street IC station, I've often observed the complex catenary at junctions. How is the catenary hung when two tracks cross each other so the pantographs don't snag and pull everything down?
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, November 18, 2005 2:29 PM
I believe that rails were cut to that length at the rolling mill. You may be on the mark that it's based on the length of most freight cars at the time. CF&I Steel in Pueblo CO may be the last active rail rolling mill in the United States.

Growing up on the South Shore Line and riding home from high school from the 115th Street IC station, I've often observed the complex catenary at junctions. How is the catenary hung when two tracks cross each other so the pantographs don't snag and pull everything down?
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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:58 AM
I'm pretty sure that rail is now rolled in lengths that fit 89-foot flat cars comfortably. I've heard 78 feet (twice 39), but can't say for sure that that's the new standard.

Paul, as long as the wire delivering the power to the pantograph as at the bottom of everything, and is reasonably taut, there should be no snagging problems. Probably takes a lot of guy wires to hold things up at Kensington, though.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:58 AM
I'm pretty sure that rail is now rolled in lengths that fit 89-foot flat cars comfortably. I've heard 78 feet (twice 39), but can't say for sure that that's the new standard.

Paul, as long as the wire delivering the power to the pantograph as at the bottom of everything, and is reasonably taut, there should be no snagging problems. Probably takes a lot of guy wires to hold things up at Kensington, though.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 19, 2005 2:31 PM
Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 19, 2005 2:31 PM
Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

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Posted by Junctionfan on Saturday, November 19, 2005 4:31 PM
Why aren't 10 unit spine cars still used (ATSF)?
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Posted by Junctionfan on Saturday, November 19, 2005 4:31 PM
Why aren't 10 unit spine cars still used (ATSF)?
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Posted by jeaton on Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

LC

LC If you are going to submit questions, why don't you ask something that has an answer, such as "How high is up"?

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Posted by jeaton on Saturday, November 19, 2005 6:22 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

LC

LC If you are going to submit questions, why don't you ask something that has an answer, such as "How high is up"?

J

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:57 PM
Because we need the comic relief?[:D]
That, and Curly, Larry and Moe were all booked up...
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QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:57 PM
Because we need the comic relief?[:D]
That, and Curly, Larry and Moe were all booked up...
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Because we need the comic relief?[:D]
That, and Curly, Larry and Moe were all booked up...
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

LC



Now guys be nice. [:D]

I don't always agree with FM on many issues but I do respect his right to post and disagree. I respect the fact that his opinion is based upon his experience with life and the fact that he, at least, has a few years under his belt. It is those who are not old enough to drive but have lived life to the fullest and know everything about everything that it is hard to agree with or even respect. We have some good, knowledgeable, respectable teens on the forum, and unfortunately we have a few who are not and who try and tell us how it is when they are basing their opinion on the nonsense that others have fed them. It is difficult to argue "experience" with them when they have none.

And now ladies and germs, how about we talk trains? ! [;)]

We have had some very good (trains and railroads) questions (and answers) discussed in this thread. Let's get this thread back on track (pun intended) and have some more good discussion. [:)]





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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Because we need the comic relief?[:D]
That, and Curly, Larry and Moe were all booked up...
Ed
QUOTE: Originally posted by Limitedclear

Here is a new question. Why is Futuremodal still on this site?

LC



Now guys be nice. [:D]

I don't always agree with FM on many issues but I do respect his right to post and disagree. I respect the fact that his opinion is based upon his experience with life and the fact that he, at least, has a few years under his belt. It is those who are not old enough to drive but have lived life to the fullest and know everything about everything that it is hard to agree with or even respect. We have some good, knowledgeable, respectable teens on the forum, and unfortunately we have a few who are not and who try and tell us how it is when they are basing their opinion on the nonsense that others have fed them. It is difficult to argue "experience" with them when they have none.

And now ladies and germs, how about we talk trains? ! [;)]

We have had some very good (trains and railroads) questions (and answers) discussed in this thread. Let's get this thread back on track (pun intended) and have some more good discussion. [:)]





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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:41 PM
Ok, let me jump start this thread with a new stupid question or two. [^]

After watching one of the three vids in another thread and seeing the 3985 with two diesels behind it I wonder . . . can the diesels now be controlled by the 3985's engineer (thanks to moderen technology and MU and all) or do the diesels still have to have its own train crew ? ? ? Is the 3985 set up with DPU technology ? ? ? OR is there some other way the 3985 might control the diesel helpers ? ? ?

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:41 PM
Ok, let me jump start this thread with a new stupid question or two. [^]

After watching one of the three vids in another thread and seeing the 3985 with two diesels behind it I wonder . . . can the diesels now be controlled by the 3985's engineer (thanks to moderen technology and MU and all) or do the diesels still have to have its own train crew ? ? ? Is the 3985 set up with DPU technology ? ? ? OR is there some other way the 3985 might control the diesel helpers ? ? ?

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Posted by Sterling1 on Monday, December 26, 2005 10:51 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Ok, let me jump start this thread with a new stupid question or two. [^]

After watching one of the three vids in another thread and seeing the 3985 with two diesels behind it I wonder . . . can the diesels now be controlled by the 3985's engineer (thanks to moderen technology and MU and all) or do the diesels still have to have its own train crew ? ? ? Is the 3985 set up with DPU technology ? ? ? OR is there some other way the 3985 might control the diesel helpers ? ? ?




This might be kinda off topic but C&O 614 has a diesel throttle along witht he usual steam controls ...

It may be that 3985 had two crews ... but then again I could be wrong ... the diesels could have been hauled dead ...

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Posted by Sterling1 on Monday, December 26, 2005 10:51 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Ok, let me jump start this thread with a new stupid question or two. [^]

After watching one of the three vids in another thread and seeing the 3985 with two diesels behind it I wonder . . . can the diesels now be controlled by the 3985's engineer (thanks to moderen technology and MU and all) or do the diesels still have to have its own train crew ? ? ? Is the 3985 set up with DPU technology ? ? ? OR is there some other way the 3985 might control the diesel helpers ? ? ?




This might be kinda off topic but C&O 614 has a diesel throttle along witht he usual steam controls ...

It may be that 3985 had two crews ... but then again I could be wrong ... the diesels could have been hauled dead ...

Matt
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Posted by Sterling1 on Monday, December 26, 2005 10:54 AM
BTW I have a question to stir in this pot ... :

How long does it take a railroader (engineer or conductor) to go up the ranks if they already had a college education?

I'm just wondering ... I don't want to be stuck in an office doin' paperwork that's a pain ...
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Sterling1 on Monday, December 26, 2005 10:54 AM
BTW I have a question to stir in this pot ... :

How long does it take a railroader (engineer or conductor) to go up the ranks if they already had a college education?

I'm just wondering ... I don't want to be stuck in an office doin' paperwork that's a pain ...
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by ironhorseman on Monday, December 26, 2005 4:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Here's a bad train picture:



Seriously, though, who really needs a 60+ page thread of questions, dumb and otherwise? Nobody's ever going to read through all this and it's probably more effective to just start a new thread. Can't we just let this die? I'd delete the thread except I can't, since there are replies.

--Nora, 12/26/05


You're joking right? I'd like to have that picture on a T-Shirt or large wall poster.

But I agree with you about the uselessness of a 60+ page thread. Most the time the stuff I read on these forums just goes in one eyeball and out the other. I tried closing one eye but it just made it lazy. Then I closed the other eye and couldn't see anything and went to sleep. When I opened both eyes it was time for breakfast, but I didn't have any cereal so I had lunch instead. But that didn't work because I didn't have any bread for sandwiches. I would've went to the store but couldn't on account my back was broken. That wouldn't have happened if I weren't right handed. I put my pants on backward the day I broke my back. I had one pair on front ways and one pair on back ways so that I could go either way. I had my keys in my right pocket because I'm right handed, you see, so now the keys that were in my right pocket that should've been on my right sight were now in the right pocket on my left side which would make it the left pocket now. So you can imagine what it must have been like to reach for keys with a right hand to a right side pocket now on the left side. That's when the truck hit me. I never saw the truck because the driver never had the lights on. But the truck driver refused to take any responsibility for not having his lights on. Probably because it was daytime.

The lesson here: never fall asleep before before putting your keys in backward pants, or look both ways when crossing a street.

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Posted by ironhorseman on Monday, December 26, 2005 4:55 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Here's a bad train picture:



Seriously, though, who really needs a 60+ page thread of questions, dumb and otherwise? Nobody's ever going to read through all this and it's probably more effective to just start a new thread. Can't we just let this die? I'd delete the thread except I can't, since there are replies.

--Nora, 12/26/05


You're joking right? I'd like to have that picture on a T-Shirt or large wall poster.

But I agree with you about the uselessness of a 60+ page thread. Most the time the stuff I read on these forums just goes in one eyeball and out the other. I tried closing one eye but it just made it lazy. Then I closed the other eye and couldn't see anything and went to sleep. When I opened both eyes it was time for breakfast, but I didn't have any cereal so I had lunch instead. But that didn't work because I didn't have any bread for sandwiches. I would've went to the store but couldn't on account my back was broken. That wouldn't have happened if I weren't right handed. I put my pants on backward the day I broke my back. I had one pair on front ways and one pair on back ways so that I could go either way. I had my keys in my right pocket because I'm right handed, you see, so now the keys that were in my right pocket that should've been on my right sight were now in the right pocket on my left side which would make it the left pocket now. So you can imagine what it must have been like to reach for keys with a right hand to a right side pocket now on the left side. That's when the truck hit me. I never saw the truck because the driver never had the lights on. But the truck driver refused to take any responsibility for not having his lights on. Probably because it was daytime.

The lesson here: never fall asleep before before putting your keys in backward pants, or look both ways when crossing a street.

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Posted by wanswheel on Saturday, June 6, 2015 1:49 AM

Was there always an echo in here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDbeqj-1XOo

 

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Posted by cacole on Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:40 AM

Who dredged up an 11 year old thread ?

 

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