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Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...There is a very active one right north of Sanford, Fl...on waters leading from Lake Monroe. CSX travels over it passenger Amtrak as well....I have ridden over it on Amtrak. It is parallel at that location to Rt. 17-92.


And you can see it from I-4 . . .
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Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:06 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...There is a very active one right north of Sanford, Fl...on waters leading from Lake Monroe. CSX travels over it passenger Amtrak as well....I have ridden over it on Amtrak. It is parallel at that location to Rt. 17-92.


And you can see it from I-4 . . .
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:25 PM
What's the tolerance of the distance between rails? 1/2", more, less? How often do tracks need to be put back in tolerance?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:25 PM
What's the tolerance of the distance between rails? 1/2", more, less? How often do tracks need to be put back in tolerance?

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Posted by doghouse on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:47 PM
Mehrlich, can't answer your question, but I have one for you. Is where you're from in the Hill country?
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Posted by doghouse on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:47 PM
Mehrlich, can't answer your question, but I have one for you. Is where you're from in the Hill country?
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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:59 PM
Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 6:59 PM
Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


Thanks

Ed

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:06 PM
Doghouse,

No, I live in Schulenburg, about half way between Houston and San Antonio. I have a son who lives in Kerrville, though.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:06 PM
Doghouse,

No, I live in Schulenburg, about half way between Houston and San Antonio. I have a son who lives in Kerrville, though.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM
When is President Bush gona go away forever?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:08 PM
When is President Bush gona go away forever?
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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:23 PM
Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:23 PM
Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


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Not quick enough!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:27 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


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Not quick enough!
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?


They take forever to load.



If that's true, then what's the best loco that can load real quick, or is that just opinion?


Second generation EMDs load quickly. NOTHING GE makes loads quickly ! ! ! But the newer EMD don't load as quickly as the older EMD either.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?


They take forever to load.



If that's true, then what's the best loco that can load real quick, or is that just opinion?


Second generation EMDs load quickly. NOTHING GE makes loads quickly ! ! ! But the newer EMD don't load as quickly as the older EMD either.
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Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:38 PM
I wonder when the politics will stop and this thread reverts back to Q & A . . . ?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Sterling1 on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:38 PM
I wonder when the politics will stop and this thread reverts back to Q & A . . . ?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


Thanks

Ed




Ed, I think I remember this coming up before, and if memory serves me well, your assumptions are pretty much right. I remember it because mention was made that there were no pins, nuts, etc., and gravity was all there was holding it all together. If I'm wrong, someone correct me.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:39 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


Thanks

Ed




Ed, I think I remember this coming up before, and if memory serves me well, your assumptions are pretty much right. I remember it because mention was made that there were no pins, nuts, etc., and gravity was all there was holding it all together. If I'm wrong, someone correct me.

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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:46 PM
QUOTE: I think I remember this coming up before....


Man, I knew I should have used the search function first. Just being lazy this evening.


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Posted by egmurphy on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:46 PM
QUOTE: I think I remember this coming up before....


Man, I knew I should have used the search function first. Just being lazy this evening.


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:59 PM
Ed,
That's what's nice about this thread. No one cares if a question gets asked over and over!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 7:59 PM
Ed,
That's what's nice about this thread. No one cares if a question gets asked over and over!

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:42 PM
You have no idea how many tank cars' contents have leaked out because the screws to attach the trucks were tightened just a little too far...

No, I'm sorry--wrong scale.

On the prototypes, the truck bolster has an indentation in which the car bolster fits--and a center pin helps hold it there. Lubrication is all there is there--no bearings in the center bolster.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 9:42 PM
You have no idea how many tank cars' contents have leaked out because the screws to attach the trucks were tightened just a little too far...

No, I'm sorry--wrong scale.

On the prototypes, the truck bolster has an indentation in which the car bolster fits--and a center pin helps hold it there. Lubrication is all there is there--no bearings in the center bolster.

Carl

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Posted by dehusman on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:25 PM
The only thing that holds a freight car on the trucks is gravity. There is a circular indentation in the top of the truck that mates with a circular casting on the bottom of the bolster.

The same thing with the wheels on a modern roller bearing truck. Some trucks have a keeper block that keeps the axle in the truck, but many times the truck is just sitting on the axles. If you pick up the car, the trucks stay on the track, if you pick up the truck frames the wheels and axles stay on the tracks.

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Posted by dehusman on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:25 PM
The only thing that holds a freight car on the trucks is gravity. There is a circular indentation in the top of the truck that mates with a circular casting on the bottom of the bolster.

The same thing with the wheels on a modern roller bearing truck. Some trucks have a keeper block that keeps the axle in the truck, but many times the truck is just sitting on the axles. If you pick up the car, the trucks stay on the track, if you pick up the truck frames the wheels and axles stay on the tracks.

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