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[coborn35]

I have a question about seniority. I know that the more years you have, the more senority you have. But what if, persay, my frined Will were to work for 5 years as a yard engineer and decide he wants to be a through freight engineer. Would he go back to the bottom of the pile for through engineers or would his seniority count for anything?

[coborn35]

I have a question about seniority. I know that the more years you have, the more senority you have. But what if, persay, my frined Will were to work for 5 years as a yard engineer and decide he wants to be a through freight engineer. Would he go back to the bottom of the pile for through engineers or would his seniority count for anything?

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

MWH: Your definition of the term is probably the best that I've seen. As a reader of TRAINS with some seniority, I am proud that their editorial staff over the years has never used the word regarding work-rules disputes or anywhere else.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

MWH: Your definition of the term is probably the best that I've seen. As a reader of TRAINS with some seniority, I am proud that their editorial staff over the years has never used the word regarding work-rules disputes or anywhere else.

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

I have a question about seniority. I know that the more years you have, the more senority you have. But what if, persay, my friend Will were to work for 5 years as a yard engineer and decide he wants to be a through freight engineer. Would he go back to the bottom of the pile for through engineers or would his seniority count for anything?

That answer is complicated! In reality, it depends on the actual contract. Some contracts provide for full seniority after a transfer, others provide for restricted seniority i.e. can't bid on other work for a certain time period.

-Mark
The other "MWH"
Teamster since 1996
www.fuzzyworld3.com

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

I have a question about seniority. I know that the more years you have, the more senority you have. But what if, persay, my friend Will were to work for 5 years as a yard engineer and decide he wants to be a through freight engineer. Would he go back to the bottom of the pile for through engineers or would his seniority count for anything?

That answer is complicated! In reality, it depends on the actual contract. Some contracts provide for full seniority after a transfer, others provide for restricted seniority i.e. can't bid on other work for a certain time period.

-Mark
The other "MWH"
Teamster since 1996
www.fuzzyworld3.com

[gacuster]

Modelcar & MWH: Thanks for the answers and link to the other website. I imagine a fireman on a diesel locomotive has little to do, but at the same time there is the safety factor of another person in the cab.

[gacuster]

Modelcar & MWH: Thanks for the answers and link to the other website. I imagine a fireman on a diesel locomotive has little to do, but at the same time there is the safety factor of another person in the cab.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

Modelcar & MWH: Thanks for the answers and link to the other website. I imagine a fireman on a diesel locomotive has little to do, but at the same time there is the safety factor of another person in the cab.

I don't think you will find the "fireman" in the cab anymore. [:0]

There is the craft called, Firemen and Oilers. [8D]

I think Mr. H. could explain it much better than I. [;)]

So I will bow to the knowledge and experience of those with such knowledge. [bow]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

Modelcar & MWH: Thanks for the answers and link to the other website. I imagine a fireman on a diesel locomotive has little to do, but at the same time there is the safety factor of another person in the cab.

I don't think you will find the "fireman" in the cab anymore. [:0]

There is the craft called, Firemen and Oilers. [8D]

I think Mr. H. could explain it much better than I. [;)]

So I will bow to the knowledge and experience of those with such knowledge. [bow]

[Anonymous]

Thank you, MWH, for your great explanation of the benefits of leasing rolling stock. [:)]

You should consider donating what you said to Wikipedia. Meanwhile I have made your post part of my "permanent record." [;)]

Gratefully,
allen

[Anonymous]

Thank you, MWH, for your great explanation of the benefits of leasing rolling stock. [:)]

You should consider donating what you said to Wikipedia. Meanwhile I have made your post part of my "permanent record." [;)]

Gratefully,
allen

[Anonymous]

I noticed the other day that when I went to the Ozarkmountainrailcar.com website that most every locomotive they HAD listed had sold. In the past some of the forum members had said the listed price there was high. I am curious, and I bet others are too, what would be a ballpark price of used locos these days.

I know that it is not possible to price something you cannot see. So for our pricing let's just say the locos are in average condition for their age.

What would be a ballpark price for a:

GP7

GP30

GP40

GP40-2

SD45

SD45-2

GP38

GP38-2

If you want to, you can include some GEs.

Can anybody give us some figures on these, please?

[Anonymous]

I noticed the other day that when I went to the Ozarkmountainrailcar.com website that most every locomotive they HAD listed had sold. In the past some of the forum members had said the listed price there was high. I am curious, and I bet others are too, what would be a ballpark price of used locos these days.

I know that it is not possible to price something you cannot see. So for our pricing let's just say the locos are in average condition for their age.

What would be a ballpark price for a:

GP7

GP30

GP40

GP40-2

SD45

SD45-2

GP38

GP38-2

If you want to, you can include some GEs.

Can anybody give us some figures on these, please?

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.

Well much of what they had for sale were older units such as GP7, GP20, GP9, F40, GP16. They have an old GE unit but it seems like no one wants it (wonder why [;)] ). In the past I have seen up to about 4 of the same type unit such as GP16, for sale. But right now they only have a few left for sale.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.

Well much of what they had for sale were older units such as GP7, GP20, GP9, F40, GP16. They have an old GE unit but it seems like no one wants it (wonder why [;)] ). In the past I have seen up to about 4 of the same type unit such as GP16, for sale. But right now they only have a few left for sale.

[dehusman]

There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Regarding the seniority question if a engineer in the same crew district changes from a yard engineer to a road engineer or vice versa, they normally retain their seniority. If they transfer to a different craft (trainmen, mechanical, etc.) or change railroads or seniority districts then they will probably start their seniority over.

Dave H.

[dehusman]

There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Regarding the seniority question if a engineer in the same crew district changes from a yard engineer to a road engineer or vice versa, they normally retain their seniority. If they transfer to a different craft (trainmen, mechanical, etc.) or change railroads or seniority districts then they will probably start their seniority over.

Dave H.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman



There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.


Dave H.

The Fireman and Oilers I know about are on the mechanical side doing a variety of jobs that keep the locos running and many other things also.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman



There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.


Dave H.

The Fireman and Oilers I know about are on the mechanical side doing a variety of jobs that keep the locos running and many other things also.

[cpbloom]

I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?

[cpbloom]

I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Dave H.

The sides of a locomotive have been known as the "engineer's side" and "fireman's side", although by the time I figured out which was which, the fireman's side was occupied by the conductor!

-Mark
www.fuzzyworld3.com

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Dave H.

The sides of a locomotive have been known as the "engineer's side" and "fireman's side", although by the time I figured out which was which, the fireman's side was occupied by the conductor!

-Mark
www.fuzzyworld3.com

[gacuster]

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?

[gacuster]

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?

They take forever to load.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?

They take forever to load.