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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:39 AM
Concrete ties do have rubber cushioning to provide some vertical play similar to wood ties, but I doubt that artificial rubber (neoprene and similar compounds) technology of that caliber existed during the steam era. Dynamic augment, more than axle loads, would have destroyed concrete ties.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:39 AM
Concrete ties do have rubber cushioning to provide some vertical play similar to wood ties, but I doubt that artificial rubber (neoprene and similar compounds) technology of that caliber existed during the steam era. Dynamic augment, more than axle loads, would have destroyed concrete ties.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:50 AM
do reefers, refridgeraded boxcars, have batteries? or how do they run and keep their product cold? i was just wondering, and its a pretty stupid question
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:50 AM
do reefers, refridgeraded boxcars, have batteries? or how do they run and keep their product cold? i was just wondering, and its a pretty stupid question
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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by OneSecondPle

Do reefers, refrigerated boxcars, have batteries? or how do they run and keep their product cold? i was just wondering, and its a pretty stupid question

Mechanical reefers have a fuel-powered (diesel, these days) cooling system. Yep, they have to be refueled and maintained.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:07 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by OneSecondPle

Do reefers, refrigerated boxcars, have batteries? or how do they run and keep their product cold? i was just wondering, and its a pretty stupid question

Mechanical reefers have a fuel-powered (diesel, these days) cooling system. Yep, they have to be refueled and maintained.

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Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:08 PM
In the Conrail break-up, other than the NYC/PRR names, how were the various names and images of the railroads that were used to form Conrail distributed for licensing rights? or would they be considered to long unprotected to be worth the effort?
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:08 PM
In the Conrail break-up, other than the NYC/PRR names, how were the various names and images of the railroads that were used to form Conrail distributed for licensing rights? or would they be considered to long unprotected to be worth the effort?
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Posted by Sterling1 on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]



Both and how to calculate this . . .
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Posted by Sterling1 on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 1:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]



Both and how to calculate this . . .
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Sterling1 on Friday, September 2, 2005 11:18 PM
OK I have a stupid question: I remembered seeing this railroad, but it doesn't seem to be well mentioned. What happened to it?

Louisiana & North West

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=117635
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Posted by Sterling1 on Friday, September 2, 2005 11:18 PM
OK I have a stupid question: I remembered seeing this railroad, but it doesn't seem to be well mentioned. What happened to it?

Louisiana & North West

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=117635
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by cprs8622 on Sunday, September 4, 2005 1:49 AM
I was told to post this here to get more results...?

My first question is what type of cab did CSX get with there new ES44? Also di they stay with the K5LA on those and the SD70ACe?

My other question is what types of horns can be found on the following locomotives.

SOO LIne SD60 and GP38

CP AC4400 and SD90MAC

BNSF Dash 9

CEFX AC4400 (Blue Locos)

Also anyone know who is interested in the SD70M-2?

Thanks - sorry for all the questions...?
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Posted by cprs8622 on Sunday, September 4, 2005 1:49 AM
I was told to post this here to get more results...?

My first question is what type of cab did CSX get with there new ES44? Also di they stay with the K5LA on those and the SD70ACe?

My other question is what types of horns can be found on the following locomotives.

SOO LIne SD60 and GP38

CP AC4400 and SD90MAC

BNSF Dash 9

CEFX AC4400 (Blue Locos)

Also anyone know who is interested in the SD70M-2?

Thanks - sorry for all the questions...?
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, September 4, 2005 10:15 AM
That question about the Louisiana & North West isn't so stupid. I haven't heard much about them lately, either.

The 2005 DPA/LTA roster book still shows their fleet of eight locomotives, including a couple of GP40s. They were "famous" when they were operating F units on that shortline, but those are now gone--sorry, no details.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, September 4, 2005 10:15 AM
That question about the Louisiana & North West isn't so stupid. I haven't heard much about them lately, either.

The 2005 DPA/LTA roster book still shows their fleet of eight locomotives, including a couple of GP40s. They were "famous" when they were operating F units on that shortline, but those are now gone--sorry, no details.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:07 PM
I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?
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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:07 PM
I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?
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Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cherokee woman

I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?


Raw steel.
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Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cherokee woman

I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?


Raw steel.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:54 PM
These are thick steel slabs ,stacked 4 to 6 to a car. The slab trains around here run from the port of L.A. to a steel mill in Fontana on the BNSF.These trains are usually about 74 cars long and usual power is 4 four axle EMDs and GEs.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:54 PM
These are thick steel slabs ,stacked 4 to 6 to a car. The slab trains around here run from the port of L.A. to a steel mill in Fontana on the BNSF.These trains are usually about 74 cars long and usual power is 4 four axle EMDs and GEs.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 11:16 PM
Cher, if you'd asked the question about slab trains at the diner, I might have given you a gentle ribbing!

My requirements could be met by a half-slab train.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 11:16 PM
Cher, if you'd asked the question about slab trains at the diner, I might have given you a gentle ribbing!

My requirements could be met by a half-slab train.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 7:58 AM
One of the earliest slab trains was an operation to the Jones & Laughlin finishing plant in Hennepin, IL. I'm not sure of the point of origin. The slabs had hardened but were still hot when shipped in conventional mill gondolas with steel floors.

By position in the steelmaking process, a bottle train runs from the blast furnace to the basic oxygen or other steelmaking furnace; a slab train runs from the rolling mill to the finishing mill.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 7:58 AM
One of the earliest slab trains was an operation to the Jones & Laughlin finishing plant in Hennepin, IL. I'm not sure of the point of origin. The slabs had hardened but were still hot when shipped in conventional mill gondolas with steel floors.

By position in the steelmaking process, a bottle train runs from the blast furnace to the basic oxygen or other steelmaking furnace; a slab train runs from the rolling mill to the finishing mill.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 1:00 PM
Steel slabs, huh? Okay, that answers my questions. Carl, I purposely
did not ask this question in the Diner: knew I'd get answers regarding
different SLABS of meat!!

Thank you all for your answers. Greatly appreciated.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 1:00 PM
Steel slabs, huh? Okay, that answers my questions. Carl, I purposely
did not ask this question in the Diner: knew I'd get answers regarding
different SLABS of meat!!

Thank you all for your answers. Greatly appreciated.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]



Both and how to calculate this . . .



I want to say 3,000 candlepower and 74 or 75 volts. Some of the voltages are around 30 something I believe. Some of the machinists or electricians can correct me if I am wrong.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]



Both and how to calculate this . . .



I want to say 3,000 candlepower and 74 or 75 volts. Some of the voltages are around 30 something I believe. Some of the machinists or electricians can correct me if I am wrong.

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