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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:55 AM
How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?
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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:55 AM
How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:13 AM
Because, Murph, they aren't "gears" at all. You're merely "stepping on the gas" to get more power, to turn the generator to provide electricity to the motors that power the wheels. You need to build up the speed, or at least the momentum, before you hit the grade.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:13 AM
Because, Murph, they aren't "gears" at all. You're merely "stepping on the gas" to get more power, to turn the generator to provide electricity to the motors that power the wheels. You need to build up the speed, or at least the momentum, before you hit the grade.

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Posted by Mikeygaw on Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:10 PM
What are the horn and bell requirements for lift bridges?

I frequently railfan by the Delair Lift Bridge across the Deleware River, and all of the NJT trains souns the horn on approach, most freights sound the horn and have their bell on while crossing the bridge
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:10 PM
What are the horn and bell requirements for lift bridges?

I frequently railfan by the Delair Lift Bridge across the Deleware River, and all of the NJT trains souns the horn on approach, most freights sound the horn and have their bell on while crossing the bridge
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Posted by northwesterner on Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:28 PM
After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

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Posted by northwesterner on Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:28 PM
After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

Thanks!
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Posted by bobwilcox on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by northwesterner

After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

Thanks!


Probably empties coming back from a phosphate fertilizer operation in NC of FL and going to Alberta for more sulphur.
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Posted by bobwilcox on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by northwesterner

After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

Thanks!


Probably empties coming back from a phosphate fertilizer operation in NC of FL and going to Alberta for more sulphur.
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 29, 2005 11:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 29, 2005 11:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 29, 2005 11:56 PM
Okay, I'll bite: Is a "scoot" what I think it is? A commuter train??

And does anyone still call passenger trains "the varnish"?
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 29, 2005 11:56 PM
Okay, I'll bite: Is a "scoot" what I think it is? A commuter train??

And does anyone still call passenger trains "the varnish"?
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by smalling_60626

Okay, I'll bite: Is a "scoot" what I think it is? A commuter train??

And does anyone still call passenger trains "the varnish"?


In Chicago, suburban trains are referred to as "scoots" on C&NW, "dinkies" on BN and MILW, and probably a variety of other names, usually less than complimentary, elsewhere.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:55 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by smalling_60626

Okay, I'll bite: Is a "scoot" what I think it is? A commuter train??

And does anyone still call passenger trains "the varnish"?


In Chicago, suburban trains are referred to as "scoots" on C&NW, "dinkies" on BN and MILW, and probably a variety of other names, usually less than complimentary, elsewhere.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:34 PM
Thank you, CS Hegewisch.

Stupid questions? I got a million of 'em:
Why is the element sometimes spelled "sulfur" and sometimes "sulphur?" It doesn't seem to be a Canadian-vs-American spelling issue, but my dictionary wasn't terribly helpful.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:34 PM
Thank you, CS Hegewisch.

Stupid questions? I got a million of 'em:
Why is the element sometimes spelled "sulfur" and sometimes "sulphur?" It doesn't seem to be a Canadian-vs-American spelling issue, but my dictionary wasn't terribly helpful.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:40 PM
It actually is a Canadian (ph)-vs-American (f) thing. It's just that most of the sul(fill-in-the-blank)ur originates in Canada, so most of the tank cars are lettered that way.

On the subject of sul*ur transport, I could probably look into it when I'm at work, but that won't be before next month. Anyway, I seem to recall the station of Roseport, Minesota, showing up in connection with a lot of these moves. FWIW.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:40 PM
It actually is a Canadian (ph)-vs-American (f) thing. It's just that most of the sul(fill-in-the-blank)ur originates in Canada, so most of the tank cars are lettered that way.

On the subject of sul*ur transport, I could probably look into it when I'm at work, but that won't be before next month. Anyway, I seem to recall the station of Roseport, Minesota, showing up in connection with a lot of these moves. FWIW.

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:47 PM
Smalling,
Both spellings are perfectly acceptable.

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:47 PM
Smalling,
Both spellings are perfectly acceptable.

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Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

It actually is a Canadian (ph)-vs-American (f) thing. It's just that most of the sul(fill-in-the-blank)ur originates in Canada, so most of the tank cars are lettered that way.

On the subject of sul*ur transport, I could probably look into it when I'm at work, but that won't be before next month. Anyway, I seem to recall the station of Roseport, Minesota, showing up in connection with a lot of these moves. FWIW.


The Koch refinery at Roseport, MN uses high sulfur crude from Alberta. They sell the sulfur waste product to the phosphate fertilzer people to make sulfuric acid. The acid is used as a flotation agent in purifying phophate rock.
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Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:03 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CShaveRR

It actually is a Canadian (ph)-vs-American (f) thing. It's just that most of the sul(fill-in-the-blank)ur originates in Canada, so most of the tank cars are lettered that way.

On the subject of sul*ur transport, I could probably look into it when I'm at work, but that won't be before next month. Anyway, I seem to recall the station of Roseport, Minesota, showing up in connection with a lot of these moves. FWIW.


The Koch refinery at Roseport, MN uses high sulfur crude from Alberta. They sell the sulfur waste product to the phosphate fertilzer people to make sulfuric acid. The acid is used as a flotation agent in purifying phophate rock.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:16 PM
What's the tolerance between rails? When they expand and contract with the heat, do they expand out or shrink in? Have they ever gotten so far apart with heat expansion that they caused trouble?


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:16 PM
What's the tolerance between rails? When they expand and contract with the heat, do they expand out or shrink in? Have they ever gotten so far apart with heat expansion that they caused trouble?


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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:05 PM
Would concrete ties have worked out in the steam era?It seems to me that the constant pounding of the rails by steam engines would crack the concrete ties.If you watch a train pass over wood ties,the rails flex slightly as the wheels pass over each section.Concrete ties are more rigid and do not flex.This does not seem compatable with constant use of steam engines.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:05 PM
Would concrete ties have worked out in the steam era?It seems to me that the constant pounding of the rails by steam engines would crack the concrete ties.If you watch a train pass over wood ties,the rails flex slightly as the wheels pass over each section.Concrete ties are more rigid and do not flex.This does not seem compatable with constant use of steam engines.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

Would concrete ties have worked out in the steam era?It seems to me that the constant pounding of the rails by steam engines would crack the concrete ties.If you watch a train pass over wood ties,the rails flex slightly as the wheels pass over each section.Concrete ties are more rigid and do not flex.This does not seem compatable with constant use of steam engines.



I am not sure about an answer to your question but Frisco had some steam engines with 10 driving wheels. The trackmen did not like those 10 driving wheels as they constantly were tearing up the track.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by espeefoamer

Would concrete ties have worked out in the steam era?It seems to me that the constant pounding of the rails by steam engines would crack the concrete ties.If you watch a train pass over wood ties,the rails flex slightly as the wheels pass over each section.Concrete ties are more rigid and do not flex.This does not seem compatable with constant use of steam engines.



I am not sure about an answer to your question but Frisco had some steam engines with 10 driving wheels. The trackmen did not like those 10 driving wheels as they constantly were tearing up the track.

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