Bad train pictures

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

The only thing that holds a freight car on the trucks is gravity. There is a circular indentation in the top of the truck that mates with a circular casting on the bottom of the bolster.

The same thing with the wheels on a modern roller bearing truck. Some trucks have a keeper block that keeps the axle in the truck, but many times the truck is just sitting on the axles. If you pick up the car, the trucks stay on the track, if you pick up the truck frames the wheels and axles stay on the tracks.

Dave H.

IIRC from a CSX hazmat car orientation, the lack of fastening of the truck and the wheels is partly by design - if they part company with a tank car during a derailment, they are less likely to puncture said tank car.

[tree68]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

The only thing that holds a freight car on the trucks is gravity. There is a circular indentation in the top of the truck that mates with a circular casting on the bottom of the bolster.

The same thing with the wheels on a modern roller bearing truck. Some trucks have a keeper block that keeps the axle in the truck, but many times the truck is just sitting on the axles. If you pick up the car, the trucks stay on the track, if you pick up the truck frames the wheels and axles stay on the tracks.

Dave H.

IIRC from a CSX hazmat car orientation, the lack of fastening of the truck and the wheels is partly by design - if they part company with a tank car during a derailment, they are less likely to puncture said tank car.

[coborn35]

QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


Regards

Ed

Of course it s off!
You mean 2006 right??

[coborn35]

QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


Regards

Ed

Of course it s off!
You mean 2006 right??

[CShaveRR]

Actually, Dave, there are small supports under the inboard side of the bearings that hold them to the trucks in most cases.

[CShaveRR]

Actually, Dave, there are small supports under the inboard side of the bearings that hold them to the trucks in most cases.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

QUOTE: Originally posted by doghouse

I have a question and, more that likely, its been asked before. Plus, I was too lazy to search this thread to see if was asked before so here it goes. How and where did the term "fallen flag" arise and how did it become associated with railroads that have been absorbed into others.

The term "fallen flag" was coined by the editorial staff of TRAINS as part of a delightful series of articles which ran around 1980. The articles were a series of photos with capsule descriptions of various Class I railroads which had been merged into other carriers or abandoned. It is probably a play off of Wabash's old flag herald, which passed out of existence into N&W on October 15, 1964.

[CSSHEGEWISCH]

QUOTE: Originally posted by doghouse

I have a question and, more that likely, its been asked before. Plus, I was too lazy to search this thread to see if was asked before so here it goes. How and where did the term "fallen flag" arise and how did it become associated with railroads that have been absorbed into others.

The term "fallen flag" was coined by the editorial staff of TRAINS as part of a delightful series of articles which ran around 1980. The articles were a series of photos with capsule descriptions of various Class I railroads which had been merged into other carriers or abandoned. It is probably a play off of Wabash's old flag herald, which passed out of existence into N&W on October 15, 1964.

[doghouse]

I have a question and, more that likely, its been asked before. Plus, I was too lazy to search this thread to see if was asked before so here it goes. How and where did the term "fallen flag" arise and how did it become associated with railroads that have been absorbed into others.

[doghouse]

I have a question and, more that likely, its been asked before. Plus, I was too lazy to search this thread to see if was asked before so here it goes. How and where did the term "fallen flag" arise and how did it become associated with railroads that have been absorbed into others.

[dehusman]

The only thing that holds a freight car on the trucks is gravity. There is a circular indentation in the top of the truck that mates with a circular casting on the bottom of the bolster.

The same thing with the wheels on a modern roller bearing truck. Some trucks have a keeper block that keeps the axle in the truck, but many times the truck is just sitting on the axles. If you pick up the car, the trucks stay on the track, if you pick up the truck frames the wheels and axles stay on the tracks.

Dave H.

[dehusman]

The only thing that holds a freight car on the trucks is gravity. There is a circular indentation in the top of the truck that mates with a circular casting on the bottom of the bolster.

The same thing with the wheels on a modern roller bearing truck. Some trucks have a keeper block that keeps the axle in the truck, but many times the truck is just sitting on the axles. If you pick up the car, the trucks stay on the track, if you pick up the truck frames the wheels and axles stay on the tracks.

Dave H.

[CShaveRR]

You have no idea how many tank cars' contents have leaked out because the screws to attach the trucks were tightened just a little too far...

No, I'm sorry--wrong scale.

On the prototypes, the truck bolster has an indentation in which the car bolster fits--and a center pin helps hold it there. Lubrication is all there is there--no bearings in the center bolster.

[CShaveRR]

You have no idea how many tank cars' contents have leaked out because the screws to attach the trucks were tightened just a little too far...

No, I'm sorry--wrong scale.

On the prototypes, the truck bolster has an indentation in which the car bolster fits--and a center pin helps hold it there. Lubrication is all there is there--no bearings in the center bolster.

[Anonymous]

Ed,
That's what's nice about this thread. No one cares if a question gets asked over and over!

mike

[Anonymous]

Ed,
That's what's nice about this thread. No one cares if a question gets asked over and over!

mike

[egmurphy]

QUOTE: I think I remember this coming up before....

Man, I knew I should have used the search function first. Just being lazy this evening.


Thanks

Ed

[egmurphy]

QUOTE: I think I remember this coming up before....

Man, I knew I should have used the search function first. Just being lazy this evening.


Thanks

Ed

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


Thanks

Ed

Ed, I think I remember this coming up before, and if memory serves me well, your assumptions are pretty much right. I remember it because mention was made that there were no pins, nuts, etc., and gravity was all there was holding it all together. If I'm wrong, someone correct me.

mike

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


Thanks

Ed

Ed, I think I remember this coming up before, and if memory serves me well, your assumptions are pretty much right. I remember it because mention was made that there were no pins, nuts, etc., and gravity was all there was holding it all together. If I'm wrong, someone correct me.

mike

[Sterling1]

I wonder when the politics will stop and this thread reverts back to Q & A . . . ?

[Sterling1]

I wonder when the politics will stop and this thread reverts back to Q & A . . . ?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?

They take forever to load.

If that's true, then what's the best loco that can load real quick, or is that just opinion?

Second generation EMDs load quickly. NOTHING GE makes loads quickly ! ! ! But the newer EMD don't load as quickly as the older EMD either.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?

They take forever to load.

If that's true, then what's the best loco that can load real quick, or is that just opinion?

Second generation EMDs load quickly. NOTHING GE makes loads quickly ! ! ! But the newer EMD don't load as quickly as the older EMD either.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


Regards

Ed

Not quick enough!
Allan.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by egmurphy

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


Regards

Ed

Not quick enough!
Allan.

[egmurphy]

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


Regards

Ed

[egmurphy]

Unless I'm off in my calculation, you'll have an opportunity to vote for our next president in 2008.


Regards

Ed

[Anonymous]

When is President Bush gona go away forever?
Allan.

[Anonymous]

When is President Bush gona go away forever?
Allan.