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Posted by bobwilcox on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by northwesterner

After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

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Probably empties coming back from a phosphate fertilizer operation in NC of FL and going to Alberta for more sulphur.
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Posted by bobwilcox on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by northwesterner

After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

Thanks!


Probably empties coming back from a phosphate fertilizer operation in NC of FL and going to Alberta for more sulphur.
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Posted by northwesterner on Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:28 PM
After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

Thanks!
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Posted by northwesterner on Sunday, August 28, 2005 3:28 PM
After seeing this week's Trackside Volume and the discussion of Molten Sulfur trains, I have a question. I saw such a train northbound on the Metra Milwaukee District North line in Deerfield, IL. Where was it going?

Thanks!
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:10 PM
What are the horn and bell requirements for lift bridges?

I frequently railfan by the Delair Lift Bridge across the Deleware River, and all of the NJT trains souns the horn on approach, most freights sound the horn and have their bell on while crossing the bridge
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Sunday, August 28, 2005 12:10 PM
What are the horn and bell requirements for lift bridges?

I frequently railfan by the Delair Lift Bridge across the Deleware River, and all of the NJT trains souns the horn on approach, most freights sound the horn and have their bell on while crossing the bridge
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:13 AM
Because, Murph, they aren't "gears" at all. You're merely "stepping on the gas" to get more power, to turn the generator to provide electricity to the motors that power the wheels. You need to build up the speed, or at least the momentum, before you hit the grade.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:13 AM
Because, Murph, they aren't "gears" at all. You're merely "stepping on the gas" to get more power, to turn the generator to provide electricity to the motors that power the wheels. You need to build up the speed, or at least the momentum, before you hit the grade.

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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:55 AM
How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 28, 2005 8:55 AM
How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:54 PM
Wow! I guess that really was a stupid question![:I]. Is it common to start puttin' her into high gear 1/2 mile or more before the hill? And why do they seem to go from super low gear to top notch all at once?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:54 PM
Wow! I guess that really was a stupid question![:I]. Is it common to start puttin' her into high gear 1/2 mile or more before the hill? And why do they seem to go from super low gear to top notch all at once?

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Posted by Mark300 on Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:03 AM
Momentum & inertia!

Means different things to different kinds of transportation conveyance....and railroads, given their different geography, assignments, train lengths and so forth are no exception.

That revv'g up of the engines is the 'magic' I hear when the challenge of mak'n the hill is at hand!

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Posted by Mark300 on Saturday, August 27, 2005 9:03 AM
Momentum & inertia!

Means different things to different kinds of transportation conveyance....and railroads, given their different geography, assignments, train lengths and so forth are no exception.

That revv'g up of the engines is the 'magic' I hear when the challenge of mak'n the hill is at hand!

Happy Railroading

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:08 AM
.........Doesn't it sound "normal" getting a "run" for the hill....with any kind of transportation conveyance.....

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:08 AM
.........Doesn't it sound "normal" getting a "run" for the hill....with any kind of transportation conveyance.....

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, August 26, 2005 10:20 PM
Okay, I'm feeling rather stupid...ergo ( a new word I learned from futuremodal-don't know what it means,but.....it is a cool sounding word, nonetheless) when I am hard at work, I can hear the Dakota & Iowa Railroad rock train rumble through town three blocks up the street. While hauling a mile of empty gondolas back to Dell Rapids, S.D., the train has to climb a good sized hill in Sioux Falls. The engines, a half dozen old geeps,will *rev up* into a higher running speed. I would think they would notch up the engines to climb a major hill, but this is done at least 1/2 mile before the hill starts? What is the engineer doing?

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, August 26, 2005 10:20 PM
Okay, I'm feeling rather stupid...ergo ( a new word I learned from futuremodal-don't know what it means,but.....it is a cool sounding word, nonetheless) when I am hard at work, I can hear the Dakota & Iowa Railroad rock train rumble through town three blocks up the street. While hauling a mile of empty gondolas back to Dell Rapids, S.D., the train has to climb a good sized hill in Sioux Falls. The engines, a half dozen old geeps,will *rev up* into a higher running speed. I would think they would notch up the engines to climb a major hill, but this is done at least 1/2 mile before the hill starts? What is the engineer doing?

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, August 26, 2005 8:47 PM
Air powered Fred, has a small, turbine like generator for power running off the train line, also charges a small battery in the Fred.

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Posted by edblysard on Friday, August 26, 2005 8:47 PM
Air powered Fred, has a small, turbine like generator for power running off the train line, also charges a small battery in the Fred.

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Posted by Mikeygaw on Friday, August 26, 2005 8:36 PM
i sometimes hear a high-pitched whine coming from a FRED... is this normal or is it indicative of something wrong?
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Friday, August 26, 2005 8:36 PM
i sometimes hear a high-pitched whine coming from a FRED... is this normal or is it indicative of something wrong?
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:18 AM
As a general rule, yard crews are paid hourly and road crews are paid by mileage. I'm not sure sure of overtime provisions for road crews, perhaps a Brotherhood member could enlighten us in this regard. Hogging out usually means hitting the 12-hour limit under the Hours of Service Act.

Supervisors are on salary, and get paid the same no matter how many hours they work.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:18 AM
As a general rule, yard crews are paid hourly and road crews are paid by mileage. I'm not sure sure of overtime provisions for road crews, perhaps a Brotherhood member could enlighten us in this regard. Hogging out usually means hitting the 12-hour limit under the Hours of Service Act.

Supervisors are on salary, and get paid the same no matter how many hours they work.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:44 PM
Some railroad employees clock in and clock out and are paid an hourly wage. I had heard at one time that train crews were paid by the mile. The last figure I remember hearing (years ago of course) was 120 miles. Many times we hear of a crew hogging out, so how do they figure miles or hours for a crew that hogs out? What is a train's crew normal pay, what is their overtime pay?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 7:44 PM
Some railroad employees clock in and clock out and are paid an hourly wage. I had heard at one time that train crews were paid by the mile. The last figure I remember hearing (years ago of course) was 120 miles. Many times we hear of a crew hogging out, so how do they figure miles or hours for a crew that hogs out? What is a train's crew normal pay, what is their overtime pay?
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Posted by egmurphy on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:20 PM
QUOTE: coborn35: Of course it s off! You mean 2006 right??


Unless my memory is getting even worse that it used to be (a distinct possibility), it seems to me we voted for President last year, 2004. With a four year term that would make the next presidential election 2008. Mid-term elections in 2006 for representatives and 1/3 of the senators.

Or did you leave out a smiley in your response? I'm not good at pickinging up on humor.

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Posted by egmurphy on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 2:20 PM
QUOTE: coborn35: Of course it s off! You mean 2006 right??


Unless my memory is getting even worse that it used to be (a distinct possibility), it seems to me we voted for President last year, 2004. With a four year term that would make the next presidential election 2008. Mid-term elections in 2006 for representatives and 1/3 of the senators.

Or did you leave out a smiley in your response? I'm not good at pickinging up on humor.

Regards

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Posted by Junctionfan on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:47 PM
Which company produces the most sulfuric acid and sends it by rail? Who the greatest consumer of it by rail?
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Posted by Junctionfan on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 1:47 PM
Which company produces the most sulfuric acid and sends it by rail? Who the greatest consumer of it by rail?
Andrew

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