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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 21, 2005 10:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

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Gee, was surprised to see this once very popular thread again....

It's a good place for us to enter all kinds of subjects.




Q [:)]

It sure is a very good place to ask question. It might even cut down on the number of threads that might be posted.

If you have a question, ask it here. [;)]



i guess it isn't much of a "stupid question thread" anymore , eh?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 21, 2005 10:17 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

....
Gee, was surprised to see this once very popular thread again....

It's a good place for us to enter all kinds of subjects.




Q [:)]

It sure is a very good place to ask question. It might even cut down on the number of threads that might be posted.

If you have a question, ask it here. [;)]



i guess it isn't much of a "stupid question thread" anymore , eh?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 21, 2005 10:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?


They take forever to load.



If that's true, then what's the best loco that can load real quick, or is that just opinion?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by Sterling1 on Sunday, August 21, 2005 10:15 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?


They take forever to load.



If that's true, then what's the best loco that can load real quick, or is that just opinion?
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]
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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:32 PM
The Large Rising Sun on a white, or blank background...troop ships.
The Rising Sun with Rays, Naval Vessels.
Stars on bars, US flyers,
Small Rising Sun on White background, Merchant Shipping.
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Posted by edblysard on Sunday, August 21, 2005 3:32 PM
The Large Rising Sun on a white, or blank background...troop ships.
The Rising Sun with Rays, Naval Vessels.
Stars on bars, US flyers,
Small Rising Sun on White background, Merchant Shipping.
Ed

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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:55 PM
I have a question.... On all of the class one railroads except for KCS and except for class one railroads operating in Wissconsin (spelling) do you have to become a quilified RCO before you can become a locomotive engineer or is that an option?? I've heard rommers of this.
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Posted by CSXrules4eva on Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:55 PM
I have a question.... On all of the class one railroads except for KCS and except for class one railroads operating in Wissconsin (spelling) do you have to become a quilified RCO before you can become a locomotive engineer or is that an option?? I've heard rommers of this.
LORD HELP US ALL TO BE ORIGINAL AND NOT CRISPY!!! please? Sarah J.M. Warner conductor CSX
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cpbloom

I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?



IF I can remember correctly:

the 12 "flags" on the left and right hand border are merchant ships,

the 5 bars with a star in them are pilots successfully rescued (an important task of a sub).

the 2 large stars in the bottom border are Japanese warships

I am not sure about the 2 large flags on each side of the warship flags.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, August 21, 2005 12:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cpbloom

I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?



IF I can remember correctly:

the 12 "flags" on the left and right hand border are merchant ships,

the 5 bars with a star in them are pilots successfully rescued (an important task of a sub).

the 2 large stars in the bottom border are Japanese warships

I am not sure about the 2 large flags on each side of the warship flags.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?


They take forever to load.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 20, 2005 11:31 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by gacuster

In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?


They take forever to load.
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Posted by gacuster on Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:29 AM
In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?
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Posted by gacuster on Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:29 AM
In several threads older GE diesel locomotives are often referred to in a derogatory manner. What characteristics made them worse than EMD units?
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Posted by fuzzybroken on Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Dave H.
The sides of a locomotive have been known as the "engineer's side" and "fireman's side", although by the time I figured out which was which, the fireman's side was occupied by the conductor!

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Posted by fuzzybroken on Saturday, August 20, 2005 5:18 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman

There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Dave H.
The sides of a locomotive have been known as the "engineer's side" and "fireman's side", although by the time I figured out which was which, the fireman's side was occupied by the conductor!

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Posted by cpbloom on Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:47 AM
I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?
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Posted by cpbloom on Saturday, August 20, 2005 3:47 AM
I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman



There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.


Dave H.



The Fireman and Oilers I know about are on the mechanical side doing a variety of jobs that keep the locos running and many other things also.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 20, 2005 12:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dehusman



There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.


Dave H.



The Fireman and Oilers I know about are on the mechanical side doing a variety of jobs that keep the locos running and many other things also.

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:32 AM
There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Regarding the seniority question if a engineer in the same crew district changes from a yard engineer to a road engineer or vice versa, they normally retain their seniority. If they transfer to a different craft (trainmen, mechanical, etc.) or change railroads or seniority districts then they will probably start their seniority over.

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Posted by dehusman on Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:32 AM
There are still "firemen" but they are engineers in training now.

Regarding the seniority question if a engineer in the same crew district changes from a yard engineer to a road engineer or vice versa, they normally retain their seniority. If they transfer to a different craft (trainmen, mechanical, etc.) or change railroads or seniority districts then they will probably start their seniority over.

Dave H.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.


Well much of what they had for sale were older units such as GP7, GP20, GP9, F40, GP16. They have an old GE unit but it seems like no one wants it (wonder why [;)] ). In the past I have seen up to about 4 of the same type unit such as GP16, for sale. But right now they only have a few left for sale.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 18, 2005 9:39 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by CSSHEGEWISCH

As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.


Well much of what they had for sale were older units such as GP7, GP20, GP9, F40, GP16. They have an old GE unit but it seems like no one wants it (wonder why [;)] ). In the past I have seen up to about 4 of the same type unit such as GP16, for sale. But right now they only have a few left for sale.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:00 AM
As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:00 AM
As a rule of thumb, an unrebuilt used locomotive should cost roughly the same as a brand-new luxury automobile. This isn't exact but it does provide a good starting point.
The daily commute is part of everyday life but I get two rides a day out of it. Paul
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:47 PM
I noticed the other day that when I went to the Ozarkmountainrailcar.com website that most every locomotive they HAD listed had sold. In the past some of the forum members had said the listed price there was high. I am curious, and I bet others are too, what would be a ballpark price of used locos these days.

I know that it is not possible to price something you cannot see. So for our pricing let's just say the locos are in average condition for their age.

What would be a ballpark price for a:

GP7

GP30

GP40

GP40-2

SD45

SD45-2

GP38

GP38-2

If you want to, you can include some GEs.

Can anybody give us some figures on these, please?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:47 PM
I noticed the other day that when I went to the Ozarkmountainrailcar.com website that most every locomotive they HAD listed had sold. In the past some of the forum members had said the listed price there was high. I am curious, and I bet others are too, what would be a ballpark price of used locos these days.

I know that it is not possible to price something you cannot see. So for our pricing let's just say the locos are in average condition for their age.

What would be a ballpark price for a:

GP7

GP30

GP40

GP40-2

SD45

SD45-2

GP38

GP38-2

If you want to, you can include some GEs.

Can anybody give us some figures on these, please?

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2005 9:17 PM
Thank you, MWH, for your great explanation of the benefits of leasing rolling stock. [:)]

You should consider donating what you said to Wikipedia. Meanwhile I have made your post part of my "permanent record." [;)]

Gratefully,
allen
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, August 15, 2005 9:17 PM
Thank you, MWH, for your great explanation of the benefits of leasing rolling stock. [:)]

You should consider donating what you said to Wikipedia. Meanwhile I have made your post part of my "permanent record." [;)]

Gratefully,
allen

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