Bad train pictures

[Anonymous]

Doghouse,

No, I live in Schulenburg, about half way between Houston and San Antonio. I have a son who lives in Kerrville, though.

m

[Anonymous]

Doghouse,

No, I live in Schulenburg, about half way between Houston and San Antonio. I have a son who lives in Kerrville, though.

m

[egmurphy]

Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


Thanks

Ed

[egmurphy]

Taking advantage of the fact that this thread has come back to life, let me ask one (or two).

How is a railcar fastened to the truck? I can imagine that the bolster on the car must have a pin that fits down through a matching hole in the truck bolster or something along those lines.

Is there any kind of retaining washer/nut/pin arrangement to positively fasten the car to the truck, or do they rely on the pin and gravity to maintain the car in position on the trucks?

Anything special about the bearing faces where the car bolster and truck bolster meet? Or just flat metal faces with some grease?


Thanks

Ed

[doghouse]

Mehrlich, can't answer your question, but I have one for you. Is where you're from in the Hill country?

[doghouse]

Mehrlich, can't answer your question, but I have one for you. Is where you're from in the Hill country?

[Anonymous]

What's the tolerance of the distance between rails? 1/2", more, less? How often do tracks need to be put back in tolerance?

m

[Anonymous]

What's the tolerance of the distance between rails? 1/2", more, less? How often do tracks need to be put back in tolerance?

m

[Sterling1]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...There is a very active one right north of Sanford, Fl...on waters leading from Lake Monroe. CSX travels over it passenger Amtrak as well....I have ridden over it on Amtrak. It is parallel at that location to Rt. 17-92.

And you can see it from I-4 . . .

[Sterling1]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Modelcar

...There is a very active one right north of Sanford, Fl...on waters leading from Lake Monroe. CSX travels over it passenger Amtrak as well....I have ridden over it on Amtrak. It is parallel at that location to Rt. 17-92.

And you can see it from I-4 . . .

[Sterling1]

I'm not too sure if you've seen anything like this but here goes:

On a railfaning walk'round at night in FL (actually north of downtown Orlando) I heard and saw 3 CSX (is YN2 refering to gray yellow and blue) SD units . . . 3 ex-Cheesie 85xx SD50's and an ex-Conrail SD40-2 8801. The clincher? Three crew members and a melodius horn; the conductor looking straight, the engineer blowing for crossings and the brakeman was slumped in his seat so he could stick both shoes, feet and legs out the open window . . .

You can imagine my reaction . . .

[Sterling1]

I'm not too sure if you've seen anything like this but here goes:

On a railfaning walk'round at night in FL (actually north of downtown Orlando) I heard and saw 3 CSX (is YN2 refering to gray yellow and blue) SD units . . . 3 ex-Cheesie 85xx SD50's and an ex-Conrail SD40-2 8801. The clincher? Three crew members and a melodius horn; the conductor looking straight, the engineer blowing for crossings and the brakeman was slumped in his seat so he could stick both shoes, feet and legs out the open window . . .

You can imagine my reaction . . .

[SALfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

No, not any more offensive that the recent blitz of TV shows about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or the constant use of the Swastika in reference to Germans that you also see on TV...Note the media has pointed out the new Pope was a member of a Nazi youth group...so, should all Jews be offended?

WWII happened, for several reasons that would take forever to debate, but it still happened.
To not acknowledge that, or the sacrifices made on all side of the conflict, is to attempt to rewrite, or ignore our history.
Neither option strikes me as a good idea.
If any Japanese, or Japanese Americans take offense to the photo, sorry, but it did happen, many people, on both side of the Pacific theater, lost their lives, and regardless of who won, or who lost, we should never attempt to hide it.

The Japanese have a very well done, tasteful, and moving museum in Hiroshima, chronicling both their version of WWII, and the atomic bomb and its aftermath.

Trust me, if you ever get a chance to visit it, well, after viewing the images there, and looking at the artifacts, when you leave, you find it hard to look any Japanese in the eyes for a long time.

What was unleashed over those two cities should never, ever be let lose again.


Ed

Guess it's my turn to ruffle some feathers. Thank you, Ed, for saying this. I get SO tired of Americans who feel guilty about winning the war, and foreigners who try to make us feel guilty for winning it.

I also get SO tired of people who criticize the U.S. for dropping the atomic bombs. My father participated in the invasion of Okinawa, and carried the psychological scars of that experience for the rest of his life. When the bombs were dropped, he was waiting to get on a ship and be part of the forces to invade Japan. It is quite possible that he would have been one of the 500,000+ casualties the military estimated that invasion would cost. Am I sorry the bombs were dropped? Not on your life.

I have no desire to offend anyone, Japanese or otherwise, unless they are part of the revisionist/guiltmonger groups mentioned above. Whatever their reasons for doing so, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor with no warning, when a state of war did not exist between the U.S. and Japan. They started the fight, we ended it.

[SALfan]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

No, not any more offensive that the recent blitz of TV shows about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or the constant use of the Swastika in reference to Germans that you also see on TV...Note the media has pointed out the new Pope was a member of a Nazi youth group...so, should all Jews be offended?

WWII happened, for several reasons that would take forever to debate, but it still happened.
To not acknowledge that, or the sacrifices made on all side of the conflict, is to attempt to rewrite, or ignore our history.
Neither option strikes me as a good idea.
If any Japanese, or Japanese Americans take offense to the photo, sorry, but it did happen, many people, on both side of the Pacific theater, lost their lives, and regardless of who won, or who lost, we should never attempt to hide it.

The Japanese have a very well done, tasteful, and moving museum in Hiroshima, chronicling both their version of WWII, and the atomic bomb and its aftermath.

Trust me, if you ever get a chance to visit it, well, after viewing the images there, and looking at the artifacts, when you leave, you find it hard to look any Japanese in the eyes for a long time.

What was unleashed over those two cities should never, ever be let lose again.


Ed

Guess it's my turn to ruffle some feathers. Thank you, Ed, for saying this. I get SO tired of Americans who feel guilty about winning the war, and foreigners who try to make us feel guilty for winning it.

I also get SO tired of people who criticize the U.S. for dropping the atomic bombs. My father participated in the invasion of Okinawa, and carried the psychological scars of that experience for the rest of his life. When the bombs were dropped, he was waiting to get on a ship and be part of the forces to invade Japan. It is quite possible that he would have been one of the 500,000+ casualties the military estimated that invasion would cost. Am I sorry the bombs were dropped? Not on your life.

I have no desire to offend anyone, Japanese or otherwise, unless they are part of the revisionist/guiltmonger groups mentioned above. Whatever their reasons for doing so, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor with no warning, when a state of war did not exist between the U.S. and Japan. They started the fight, we ended it.

[CShaveRR]

As for upgrading the Kate Shelley Bridge, that was done a few years back. It was always a double-track structure, but for many years was limited to one train crossing it at a time. UP strengthened it so both tracks on the bridge can be occupied simultaneously.

But the reports out there suggest that the bridge is due to be replaced by a new two-track structure, utilizing steel from the former MILW crossing of the same river. These reports (maybe they shouldn't be considered more than rumors at this point) say that the existing bridge will be retained, with one track remaining on it, to serve as a siding/bypass route.

Slight correction to the Kate Shelley legend reported above--it was a smaller bridge that had washed out (or collapsed under the weight of a locomotive), and it was the Des Moines River Bridge (a predecessor to the current one, on a different, and much lower, alingment) that Kate had to crawl across to reach the station at Moingona, where the train could be stopped.

[CShaveRR]

As for upgrading the Kate Shelley Bridge, that was done a few years back. It was always a double-track structure, but for many years was limited to one train crossing it at a time. UP strengthened it so both tracks on the bridge can be occupied simultaneously.

But the reports out there suggest that the bridge is due to be replaced by a new two-track structure, utilizing steel from the former MILW crossing of the same river. These reports (maybe they shouldn't be considered more than rumors at this point) say that the existing bridge will be retained, with one track remaining on it, to serve as a siding/bypass route.

Slight correction to the Kate Shelley legend reported above--it was a smaller bridge that had washed out (or collapsed under the weight of a locomotive), and it was the Des Moines River Bridge (a predecessor to the current one, on a different, and much lower, alingment) that Kate had to crawl across to reach the station at Moingona, where the train could be stopped.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by crystelriverRR

I too have visited the Hiroshima Peace Park and found it to be very disturbing but unlike you Ed, I did not feel any real sorry for the people who lost their lives there. After all, when you consider the rape of Nanking, the Bataan death march and the Japanese treatment of prisioners of war and even Pearl Harbor, I felt they had brought it on themselves.

WRONG WRONG WRONG
The civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were no more responsible for the above mentioned atrocities than the civilians of the US are responsible for the atrocities we are perpetuating in Iraq. Maybe even less so, since "we" (meaning the majority) elected the war-mongering president.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by crystelriverRR

I too have visited the Hiroshima Peace Park and found it to be very disturbing but unlike you Ed, I did not feel any real sorry for the people who lost their lives there. After all, when you consider the rape of Nanking, the Bataan death march and the Japanese treatment of prisioners of war and even Pearl Harbor, I felt they had brought it on themselves.

WRONG WRONG WRONG
The civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were no more responsible for the above mentioned atrocities than the civilians of the US are responsible for the atrocities we are perpetuating in Iraq. Maybe even less so, since "we" (meaning the majority) elected the war-mongering president.

[CShaveRR]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeygaw

i've seen with my own eyes on an NS coil car Protect II and pics of Protect III on NS coil cars... what is Protect II and Protect III?

I'm not sure what the differences between the "II" and the "III" (and the "I", if there is such a thing) are, but PROTECT is an acronym used by NS to describe these cars and their covers:

PROtected TEmperature Coil Transport

[CShaveRR]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeygaw

i've seen with my own eyes on an NS coil car Protect II and pics of Protect III on NS coil cars... what is Protect II and Protect III?

I'm not sure what the differences between the "II" and the "III" (and the "I", if there is such a thing) are, but PROTECT is an acronym used by NS to describe these cars and their covers:

PROtected TEmperature Coil Transport

[Anonymous]

I too have visited the Hiroshima Peace Park and found it to be very disturbing but unlike you Ed, I did not feel any real sorry for the people who lost their lives there. After all, when you consider the rape of Nanking, the Bataan death march and the Japanese treatment of prisioners of war and even Pearl Harbor, I felt they had brought it on themselves.

[Anonymous]

I too have visited the Hiroshima Peace Park and found it to be very disturbing but unlike you Ed, I did not feel any real sorry for the people who lost their lives there. After all, when you consider the rape of Nanking, the Bataan death march and the Japanese treatment of prisioners of war and even Pearl Harbor, I felt they had brought it on themselves.

[edblysard]

No, not any more offensive that the recent blitz of TV shows about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or the constant use of the Swastika in reference to Germans that you also see on TV...Note the media has pointed out the new Pope was a member of a Nazi youth group...so, should all Jews be offended?

WWII happened, for several reasons that would take forever to debate, but it still happened.
To not acknowledge that, or the sacrifices made on all side of the conflict, is to attempt to rewrite, or ignore our history.
Neither option strikes me as a good idea.
If any Japanese, or Japanese Americans take offense to the photo, sorry, but it did happen, many people, on both side of the Pacific theater, lost their lives, and regardless of who won, or who lost, we should never attempt to hide it.

The Japanese have a very well done, tasteful, and moving museum in Hiroshima, chronicling both their version of WWII, and the atomic bomb and its aftermath.

Trust me, if you ever get a chance to visit it, well, after viewing the images there, and looking at the artifacts, when you leave, you find it hard to look any Japanese in the eyes for a long time.

What was unleashed over those two cities should never, ever be let lose again.


Ed

[edblysard]

No, not any more offensive that the recent blitz of TV shows about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or the constant use of the Swastika in reference to Germans that you also see on TV...Note the media has pointed out the new Pope was a member of a Nazi youth group...so, should all Jews be offended?

WWII happened, for several reasons that would take forever to debate, but it still happened.
To not acknowledge that, or the sacrifices made on all side of the conflict, is to attempt to rewrite, or ignore our history.
Neither option strikes me as a good idea.
If any Japanese, or Japanese Americans take offense to the photo, sorry, but it did happen, many people, on both side of the Pacific theater, lost their lives, and regardless of who won, or who lost, we should never attempt to hide it.

The Japanese have a very well done, tasteful, and moving museum in Hiroshima, chronicling both their version of WWII, and the atomic bomb and its aftermath.

Trust me, if you ever get a chance to visit it, well, after viewing the images there, and looking at the artifacts, when you leave, you find it hard to look any Japanese in the eyes for a long time.

What was unleashed over those two cities should never, ever be let lose again.


Ed

[Hugh Jampton]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by cpbloom

I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?

IF I can remember correctly:

the 12 "flags" on the left and right hand border are merchant ships,

the 5 bars with a star in them are pilots successfully rescued (an important task of a sub).

the 2 large stars in the bottom border are Japanese warships

I am not sure about the 2 large flags on each side of the warship flags.

Don't you think that Japanese members of this forum (if there are any) might find this slightly offensive??

[Hugh Jampton]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by cpbloom

I was always curious about this......

jhhtrainsplanes what type of ships do the various Japanese flags represent in that picture in your posts?

IF I can remember correctly:

the 12 "flags" on the left and right hand border are merchant ships,

the 5 bars with a star in them are pilots successfully rescued (an important task of a sub).

the 2 large stars in the bottom border are Japanese warships

I am not sure about the 2 large flags on each side of the warship flags.

Don't you think that Japanese members of this forum (if there are any) might find this slightly offensive??

[Sterling1]

I have a question: UP is going to upgrade the Kate Shelley Bridge. Where did the name Kate Shelley come from?

[Sterling1]

I have a question: UP is going to upgrade the Kate Shelley Bridge. Where did the name Kate Shelley come from?

[cpbloom]

Well it never really was a stupid question thread; it always has some good Q & As.

Thanks edblysard and jhtrainsplanes for answering my question [:)]

[cpbloom]

Well it never really was a stupid question thread; it always has some good Q & As.

Thanks edblysard and jhtrainsplanes for answering my question [:)]