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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:58 AM
I'm pretty sure that rail is now rolled in lengths that fit 89-foot flat cars comfortably. I've heard 78 feet (twice 39), but can't say for sure that that's the new standard.

Paul, as long as the wire delivering the power to the pantograph as at the bottom of everything, and is reasonably taut, there should be no snagging problems. Probably takes a lot of guy wires to hold things up at Kensington, though.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Saturday, November 19, 2005 11:58 AM
I'm pretty sure that rail is now rolled in lengths that fit 89-foot flat cars comfortably. I've heard 78 feet (twice 39), but can't say for sure that that's the new standard.

Paul, as long as the wire delivering the power to the pantograph as at the bottom of everything, and is reasonably taut, there should be no snagging problems. Probably takes a lot of guy wires to hold things up at Kensington, though.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, November 18, 2005 2:29 PM
I believe that rails were cut to that length at the rolling mill. You may be on the mark that it's based on the length of most freight cars at the time. CF&I Steel in Pueblo CO may be the last active rail rolling mill in the United States.

Growing up on the South Shore Line and riding home from high school from the 115th Street IC station, I've often observed the complex catenary at junctions. How is the catenary hung when two tracks cross each other so the pantographs don't snag and pull everything down?
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, November 18, 2005 2:29 PM
I believe that rails were cut to that length at the rolling mill. You may be on the mark that it's based on the length of most freight cars at the time. CF&I Steel in Pueblo CO may be the last active rail rolling mill in the United States.

Growing up on the South Shore Line and riding home from high school from the 115th Street IC station, I've often observed the complex catenary at junctions. How is the catenary hung when two tracks cross each other so the pantographs don't snag and pull everything down?
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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, November 18, 2005 1:40 PM
Possibly rehashing a question here: [%-)] Other than the fact that
a 39 ft. section of rail fits in/on 40 ft. flat or 40 ft. gondola, is there
another reason that the rails were generally 39 ft. long?
Besides asking the question, this thread was buried back 37 pages,
wanted to bring it back to page 1 for awhile.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Friday, November 18, 2005 1:40 PM
Possibly rehashing a question here: [%-)] Other than the fact that
a 39 ft. section of rail fits in/on 40 ft. flat or 40 ft. gondola, is there
another reason that the rails were generally 39 ft. long?
Besides asking the question, this thread was buried back 37 pages,
wanted to bring it back to page 1 for awhile.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:53 PM
Mikey, many box cars have cushion underframes. Most of these are hydraulic. The center sill, drawbar to drawbar, is actually a separate piece from the car itself, connected by a hydraulic centering device, in order to cushion impacts and slack action. Other cars have end-of-car cushioning, with springs to help absorb the changes in velocity.

Anything that you don't want damaged would be better off in a cushioned car. Newsprint and auto parts are a couple of the "biggies".

Now, as to your BNSF car with the markings, it sounds like a location and a date to me. Just more graffiti.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:53 PM
Mikey, many box cars have cushion underframes. Most of these are hydraulic. The center sill, drawbar to drawbar, is actually a separate piece from the car itself, connected by a hydraulic centering device, in order to cushion impacts and slack action. Other cars have end-of-car cushioning, with springs to help absorb the changes in velocity.

Anything that you don't want damaged would be better off in a cushioned car. Newsprint and auto parts are a couple of the "biggies".

Now, as to your BNSF car with the markings, it sounds like a location and a date to me. Just more graffiti.

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Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:45 PM
who got the Conrail office train equipment?

saw some boxcars marked as cushoin cars. What are some products that require cushioning, and what is used as the cushioning?

saw on a BNSF car carrying steel beems written in white chalk Erie, PA 3-31-00. what does that stand for?
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Posted by Mikeygaw on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:45 PM
who got the Conrail office train equipment?

saw some boxcars marked as cushoin cars. What are some products that require cushioning, and what is used as the cushioning?

saw on a BNSF car carrying steel beems written in white chalk Erie, PA 3-31-00. what does that stand for?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]



Both and how to calculate this . . .



I want to say 3,000 candlepower and 74 or 75 volts. Some of the voltages are around 30 something I believe. Some of the machinists or electricians can correct me if I am wrong.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 5, 2005 9:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sterling1


How much are the light bulbs on headlights rated for?



Are you looking for voltage or candlepower? [?] [?] [?]



Both and how to calculate this . . .



I want to say 3,000 candlepower and 74 or 75 volts. Some of the voltages are around 30 something I believe. Some of the machinists or electricians can correct me if I am wrong.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 1:00 PM
Steel slabs, huh? Okay, that answers my questions. Carl, I purposely
did not ask this question in the Diner: knew I'd get answers regarding
different SLABS of meat!!

Thank you all for your answers. Greatly appreciated.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 1:00 PM
Steel slabs, huh? Okay, that answers my questions. Carl, I purposely
did not ask this question in the Diner: knew I'd get answers regarding
different SLABS of meat!!

Thank you all for your answers. Greatly appreciated.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 7:58 AM
One of the earliest slab trains was an operation to the Jones & Laughlin finishing plant in Hennepin, IL. I'm not sure of the point of origin. The slabs had hardened but were still hot when shipped in conventional mill gondolas with steel floors.

By position in the steelmaking process, a bottle train runs from the blast furnace to the basic oxygen or other steelmaking furnace; a slab train runs from the rolling mill to the finishing mill.
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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Wednesday, September 7, 2005 7:58 AM
One of the earliest slab trains was an operation to the Jones & Laughlin finishing plant in Hennepin, IL. I'm not sure of the point of origin. The slabs had hardened but were still hot when shipped in conventional mill gondolas with steel floors.

By position in the steelmaking process, a bottle train runs from the blast furnace to the basic oxygen or other steelmaking furnace; a slab train runs from the rolling mill to the finishing mill.
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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 11:16 PM
Cher, if you'd asked the question about slab trains at the diner, I might have given you a gentle ribbing!

My requirements could be met by a half-slab train.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 11:16 PM
Cher, if you'd asked the question about slab trains at the diner, I might have given you a gentle ribbing!

My requirements could be met by a half-slab train.

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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:54 PM
These are thick steel slabs ,stacked 4 to 6 to a car. The slab trains around here run from the port of L.A. to a steel mill in Fontana on the BNSF.These trains are usually about 74 cars long and usual power is 4 four axle EMDs and GEs.
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Posted by espeefoamer on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:54 PM
These are thick steel slabs ,stacked 4 to 6 to a car. The slab trains around here run from the port of L.A. to a steel mill in Fontana on the BNSF.These trains are usually about 74 cars long and usual power is 4 four axle EMDs and GEs.
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Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cherokee woman

I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?


Raw steel.
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Posted by bobwilcox on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:29 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by cherokee woman

I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?


Raw steel.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:07 PM
I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?
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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, September 6, 2005 7:07 PM
I'm reading the Oct. Trains Magazine, the article on Norfolk Southern.
On page 33, engineer Brian Timmerding says his regular assignment
is a 10,000-ton slab train. My question is:

What is a slab train?
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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, September 4, 2005 10:15 AM
That question about the Louisiana & North West isn't so stupid. I haven't heard much about them lately, either.

The 2005 DPA/LTA roster book still shows their fleet of eight locomotives, including a couple of GP40s. They were "famous" when they were operating F units on that shortline, but those are now gone--sorry, no details.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Sunday, September 4, 2005 10:15 AM
That question about the Louisiana & North West isn't so stupid. I haven't heard much about them lately, either.

The 2005 DPA/LTA roster book still shows their fleet of eight locomotives, including a couple of GP40s. They were "famous" when they were operating F units on that shortline, but those are now gone--sorry, no details.

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Posted by cprs8622 on Sunday, September 4, 2005 1:49 AM
I was told to post this here to get more results...?

My first question is what type of cab did CSX get with there new ES44? Also di they stay with the K5LA on those and the SD70ACe?

My other question is what types of horns can be found on the following locomotives.

SOO LIne SD60 and GP38

CP AC4400 and SD90MAC

BNSF Dash 9

CEFX AC4400 (Blue Locos)

Also anyone know who is interested in the SD70M-2?

Thanks - sorry for all the questions...?
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Posted by cprs8622 on Sunday, September 4, 2005 1:49 AM
I was told to post this here to get more results...?

My first question is what type of cab did CSX get with there new ES44? Also di they stay with the K5LA on those and the SD70ACe?

My other question is what types of horns can be found on the following locomotives.

SOO LIne SD60 and GP38

CP AC4400 and SD90MAC

BNSF Dash 9

CEFX AC4400 (Blue Locos)

Also anyone know who is interested in the SD70M-2?

Thanks - sorry for all the questions...?
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Posted by Sterling1 on Friday, September 2, 2005 11:18 PM
OK I have a stupid question: I remembered seeing this railroad, but it doesn't seem to be well mentioned. What happened to it?

Louisiana & North West

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Posted by Sterling1 on Friday, September 2, 2005 11:18 PM
OK I have a stupid question: I remembered seeing this railroad, but it doesn't seem to be well mentioned. What happened to it?

Louisiana & North West

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=117635
"There is nothing in life that compares with running a locomotive at 80-plus mph with the windows open, the traction motors screaming, the air horns fighting the rush of incoming air to make any sound at all, automobiles on adjacent highways trying and failing to catch up with you, and the unmistakable presence of raw power. You ride with fear in the pit of your stomach knowing you do not really have control of this beast." - D.C. Battle [Trains 10/2002 issue, p74.]

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