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Posted by Nora on Monday, September 1, 2003 10:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Someone is sure to ask about ... detectors.


Well, I know a bit about how the different kinds of defect detectors work and stuff. I think they're kind of neat, so I read up on them a while ago. One thing I don't know, though...how often do you come across them? Are they maybe 5 miles apart or 100? I've only seen one, personally, as far as I know.

Hope I'm not driving everyone crazy (or crazier) with my questions yet...

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Posted by Nora on Monday, September 1, 2003 10:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Someone is sure to ask about ... detectors.


Well, I know a bit about how the different kinds of defect detectors work and stuff. I think they're kind of neat, so I read up on them a while ago. One thing I don't know, though...how often do you come across them? Are they maybe 5 miles apart or 100? I've only seen one, personally, as far as I know.

Hope I'm not driving everyone crazy (or crazier) with my questions yet...

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Someone is sure to ask about ... detectors.


Well, I know a bit about how the different kinds of defect detectors work and stuff. I think they're kind of neat, so I read up on them a while ago. One thing I don't know, though...how often do you come across them? Are they maybe 5 miles apart or 100? I've only seen one, personally, as far as I know.

Hope I'm not driving everyone crazy (or crazier) with my questions yet...

--Nora


No Nora you are not. [:)] Keep asking them, and I will too. [:p] You know what they say ... inquiring minds want to know. [;)] Where else can you learn and be entertained at the same time? [:o)] I really enjoy the questions and the answers.

The CSX Engine Fire thread has been interesting today. And if you want to see Jim on his soap box just take a look at the No Tresspassing thread. Jim was a little hot under the collar. [:(!] He has cooled off some now. [^]

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 1, 2003 11:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Someone is sure to ask about ... detectors.


Well, I know a bit about how the different kinds of defect detectors work and stuff. I think they're kind of neat, so I read up on them a while ago. One thing I don't know, though...how often do you come across them? Are they maybe 5 miles apart or 100? I've only seen one, personally, as far as I know.

Hope I'm not driving everyone crazy (or crazier) with my questions yet...

--Nora


No Nora you are not. [:)] Keep asking them, and I will too. [:p] You know what they say ... inquiring minds want to know. [;)] Where else can you learn and be entertained at the same time? [:o)] I really enjoy the questions and the answers.

The CSX Engine Fire thread has been interesting today. And if you want to see Jim on his soap box just take a look at the No Tresspassing thread. Jim was a little hot under the collar. [:(!] He has cooled off some now. [^]

If these d*** computer hackers don't stop I'm going to get a gun and start shooting them. I am tired of them trying every 30 seconds to hack my computer. Thank God for firewalls. I can't type two words without being interrupted by the firewall telling me of another hacking attempt. I am past p***** o**. [}:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard


As far as I know, they have never been started, nor have they moved since we towed them out there and parked them.


Ed,
On the website I mentioned ( www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ ) it states that at one point they had to be moved so that the grass around them could be cut. When they moved them they all started fine and moved without any problems. When the grass was cut they moved them all back.




I looked at the pictures. These locos are now used as switchers and for local freight. It's rare to see them pulling cross-coutry freight today in russia.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 12:09 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard


As far as I know, they have never been started, nor have they moved since we towed them out there and parked them.


Ed,
On the website I mentioned ( www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ ) it states that at one point they had to be moved so that the grass around them could be cut. When they moved them they all started fine and moved without any problems. When the grass was cut they moved them all back.




I looked at the pictures. These locos are now used as switchers and for local freight. It's rare to see them pulling cross-coutry freight today in russia.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 1:45 AM
Originally posted by edblysard

Hi Jim and Joe,

Climbed into one, the engineers seat was a barstool top on a pedestal, the conductor and brakeman seat were fold down metal shelves.

All of the control panel switches, both on the stand and the back wall, appeared to be plain old household light switches.
The overhead light had a pullchain on it.
No A/C, or heating unit that I could see or find.

If this is an example of standard Russian mainline freight locomotives, I really pity the crews.

Next time I get out that way, if they are still there I will get you guys some photos.
Stay Frosty,
Ed
[/quote

After reading your post I did alot of think about the Russian locomotives and the Russian people. I can't say enough to credit the Russian people. Your remarks about the spartan cab and its seating, controls and equipment only further my praise for the common Russian worker. I am sure you will agree that we here in this country are absolutely spoiled. Spoiled rotten as many would say. However, the Russian people are hard as nails. They are and have been so for hundreds of years. They have to be to live in their enviornment, not only physicially but emotionally as well. And I bet we don't even realize the half of their hardships. Have you seen the movie "Enemy At the Gates"? If not I highly recommend it. If you have not seen it this movie it will give you a small glimpse of the Russian people's hardships during WW II. I also have a book called, "The Siege of Lenningrad 1941 - 1944" It too will open closed eyes. I may not think much of their government but my heart goes out to the innocent hard working common people of Russia.

As far as the loco goes the poor engineers must have frequent back problems. I also wonder about equipment problems with those locos. I checked out the site that was posted by Sask_T , the pictures just don't help the looks of the locos much.
I am the type of person that just hates to see things go to waste , but from your comments I am not sure there is much hope for these units.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 1:45 AM
Originally posted by edblysard

Hi Jim and Joe,

Climbed into one, the engineers seat was a barstool top on a pedestal, the conductor and brakeman seat were fold down metal shelves.

All of the control panel switches, both on the stand and the back wall, appeared to be plain old household light switches.
The overhead light had a pullchain on it.
No A/C, or heating unit that I could see or find.

If this is an example of standard Russian mainline freight locomotives, I really pity the crews.

Next time I get out that way, if they are still there I will get you guys some photos.
Stay Frosty,
Ed
[/quote

After reading your post I did alot of think about the Russian locomotives and the Russian people. I can't say enough to credit the Russian people. Your remarks about the spartan cab and its seating, controls and equipment only further my praise for the common Russian worker. I am sure you will agree that we here in this country are absolutely spoiled. Spoiled rotten as many would say. However, the Russian people are hard as nails. They are and have been so for hundreds of years. They have to be to live in their enviornment, not only physicially but emotionally as well. And I bet we don't even realize the half of their hardships. Have you seen the movie "Enemy At the Gates"? If not I highly recommend it. If you have not seen it this movie it will give you a small glimpse of the Russian people's hardships during WW II. I also have a book called, "The Siege of Lenningrad 1941 - 1944" It too will open closed eyes. I may not think much of their government but my heart goes out to the innocent hard working common people of Russia.

As far as the loco goes the poor engineers must have frequent back problems. I also wonder about equipment problems with those locos. I checked out the site that was posted by Sask_T , the pictures just don't help the looks of the locos much.
I am the type of person that just hates to see things go to waste , but from your comments I am not sure there is much hope for these units.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 9:40 PM
I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 9:40 PM
I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 10:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Originally posted by edblysard

Hi Jim and Joe,

Climbed into one, the engineers seat was a barstool top on a pedestal, the conductor and brakeman seat were fold down metal shelves.

All of the control panel switches, both on the stand and the back wall, appeared to be plain old household light switches.
The overhead light had a pullchain on it.
No A/C, or heating unit that I could see or find.

If this is an example of standard Russian mainline freight locomotives, I really pity the crews.

Next time I get out that way, if they are still there I will get you guys some photos.
Stay Frosty,
Ed
[/quote

After reading your post I did alot of think about the Russian locomotives and the Russian people. I can't say enough to credit the Russian people. Your remarks about the spartan cab and its seating, controls and equipment only further my praise for the common Russian worker. I am sure you will agree that we here in this country are absolutely spoiled. Spoiled rotten as many would say. However, the Russian people are hard as nails. They are and have been so for hundreds of years. They have to be to live in their enviornment, not only physicially but emotionally as well. And I bet we don't even realize the half of their hardships. Have you seen the movie "Enemy At the Gates"? If not I highly recommend it. If you have not seen it this movie it will give you a small glimpse of the Russian people's hardships during WW II. I also have a book called, "The Siege of Lenningrad 1941 - 1944" It too will open closed eyes. I may not think much of their government but my heart goes out to the innocent hard working common people of Russia.

As far as the loco goes the poor engineers must have frequent back problems. I also wonder about equipment problems with those locos. I checked out the site that was posted by Sask_T , the pictures just don't help the looks of the locos much.
I am the type of person that just hates to see things go to waste , but from your comments I am not sure there is much hope for these units.


Thanks for defending the Russian people.... they work hard, the government is doing a poor job in managing the country.
As far as the locos, i'm against scrapping any piece of old RR equipment.[:(!][V]... it's like destroing the history. Put them in a museum or something[:)][^], because apparently they won't do any good on the rails today.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 2, 2003 10:16 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Originally posted by edblysard

Hi Jim and Joe,

Climbed into one, the engineers seat was a barstool top on a pedestal, the conductor and brakeman seat were fold down metal shelves.

All of the control panel switches, both on the stand and the back wall, appeared to be plain old household light switches.
The overhead light had a pullchain on it.
No A/C, or heating unit that I could see or find.

If this is an example of standard Russian mainline freight locomotives, I really pity the crews.

Next time I get out that way, if they are still there I will get you guys some photos.
Stay Frosty,
Ed
[/quote

After reading your post I did alot of think about the Russian locomotives and the Russian people. I can't say enough to credit the Russian people. Your remarks about the spartan cab and its seating, controls and equipment only further my praise for the common Russian worker. I am sure you will agree that we here in this country are absolutely spoiled. Spoiled rotten as many would say. However, the Russian people are hard as nails. They are and have been so for hundreds of years. They have to be to live in their enviornment, not only physicially but emotionally as well. And I bet we don't even realize the half of their hardships. Have you seen the movie "Enemy At the Gates"? If not I highly recommend it. If you have not seen it this movie it will give you a small glimpse of the Russian people's hardships during WW II. I also have a book called, "The Siege of Lenningrad 1941 - 1944" It too will open closed eyes. I may not think much of their government but my heart goes out to the innocent hard working common people of Russia.

As far as the loco goes the poor engineers must have frequent back problems. I also wonder about equipment problems with those locos. I checked out the site that was posted by Sask_T , the pictures just don't help the looks of the locos much.
I am the type of person that just hates to see things go to waste , but from your comments I am not sure there is much hope for these units.


Thanks for defending the Russian people.... they work hard, the government is doing a poor job in managing the country.
As far as the locos, i'm against scrapping any piece of old RR equipment.[:(!][V]... it's like destroing the history. Put them in a museum or something[:)][^], because apparently they won't do any good on the rails today.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 4:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman




Thanks for defending the Russian people.... they work hard, the government is doing a poor job in managing the country.
As far as the locos, i'm against scrapping any piece of old RR equipment.[:(!][V]... it's like destroing the history. Put them in a museum or something[:)][^], because apparently they won't do any good on the rails today.




CONGRADULATIONS ALEX ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:o)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 4:11 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman




Thanks for defending the Russian people.... they work hard, the government is doing a poor job in managing the country.
As far as the locos, i'm against scrapping any piece of old RR equipment.[:(!][V]... it's like destroing the history. Put them in a museum or something[:)][^], because apparently they won't do any good on the rails today.




CONGRADULATIONS ALEX ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:o)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 1:43 PM
the term "slug" on our road refers to a powered unit witch is pretty much a loco like a gp 50 and i've also seen some sd's without a cab. some do have controls that allows them to be hostled in the roundhouses. the units with the short "butter dish" look was probably a "cow and calf" set up.
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 3, 2003 1:43 PM
the term "slug" on our road refers to a powered unit witch is pretty much a loco like a gp 50 and i've also seen some sd's without a cab. some do have controls that allows them to be hostled in the roundhouses. the units with the short "butter dish" look was probably a "cow and calf" set up.
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Posted by Nora on Sunday, September 7, 2003 9:20 PM
I've got another one... [:p]

I like the sound of idling engines, all the clicking and hissing kind of sounds they make. But what are they actually doing that makes those sounds?

I know this is a dumb question, but I think everyone around here knows by now that I'm full of dumb questions, and I have been wondering about this for a while now. [:)]

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Posted by Nora on Sunday, September 7, 2003 9:20 PM
I've got another one... [:p]

I like the sound of idling engines, all the clicking and hissing kind of sounds they make. But what are they actually doing that makes those sounds?

I know this is a dumb question, but I think everyone around here knows by now that I'm full of dumb questions, and I have been wondering about this for a while now. [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 7, 2003 11:41 PM
The clikcing and hissing is the "spitter valve," it purges the air system of moisture. I think that is what you are referring to anyway.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 7, 2003 11:41 PM
The clikcing and hissing is the "spitter valve," it purges the air system of moisture. I think that is what you are referring to anyway.
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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, September 8, 2003 7:02 AM
Ken answered the question.Keep asking its fun to help out.
stay safe
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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, September 8, 2003 7:02 AM
Ken answered the question.Keep asking its fun to help out.
stay safe
joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2003 12:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?


Sask_T [:)] I have to start getting ready for work and you are most likely in school, therefore tonight /this afternoon you will probally make yout 100 th post. (You are at 97 right now.) I will be at work and miss it therefore, I wanted to say

CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:)] [:0] [^] [:I] [;)] [8D]

Yes it is a bit early but I will miss the actual 100 th post so I want to get it in now. [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, September 8, 2003 12:42 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?


Sask_T [:)] I have to start getting ready for work and you are most likely in school, therefore tonight /this afternoon you will probally make yout 100 th post. (You are at 97 right now.) I will be at work and miss it therefore, I wanted to say

CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:)] [:0] [^] [:I] [;)] [8D]

Yes it is a bit early but I will miss the actual 100 th post so I want to get it in now. [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 8:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?


Sask_T [:)] I have to start getting ready for work and you are most likely in school, therefore tonight /this afternoon you will probally make yout 100 th post. (You are at 97 right now.) I will be at work and miss it therefore, I wanted to say

CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:)] [:0] [^] [:I] [;)] [8D]

Yes it is a bit early but I will miss the actual 100 th post so I want to get it in now. [:)]


Thanks Jim! This is my 98th post, so I'm just about there. By the time you read this I should be at 100. It'll be a while before I get my third star, though, but eventually I'll have it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 8:57 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?


Sask_T [:)] I have to start getting ready for work and you are most likely in school, therefore tonight /this afternoon you will probally make yout 100 th post. (You are at 97 right now.) I will be at work and miss it therefore, I wanted to say

CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:)] [:0] [^] [:I] [;)] [8D]

Yes it is a bit early but I will miss the actual 100 th post so I want to get it in now. [:)]


Thanks Jim! This is my 98th post, so I'm just about there. By the time you read this I should be at 100. It'll be a while before I get my third star, though, but eventually I'll have it.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 12:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?


Sask_T [:)] I have to start getting ready for work and you are most likely in school, therefore tonight /this afternoon you will probally make yout 100 th post. (You are at 97 right now.) I will be at work and miss it therefore, I wanted to say

CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:)] [:0] [^] [:I] [;)] [8D]

Yes it is a bit early but I will miss the actual 100 th post so I want to get it in now. [:)]


Thanks Jim! This is my 98th post, so I'm just about there. By the time you read this I should be at 100. It'll be a while before I get my third star, though, but eventually I'll have it.


NEXT POST AND YOUR THERE BUDDY [:)] [;)] [^]

HAPPPPYYYYYYYY 100 th POST YOU NEW TWO TIMER YOU. [:D] [:D] [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 12:26 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

I for one think the Russian diesels should be placed in a railroad museum as a sort of curiosity. They are rather unique, after all.

With the talk about reporting marks I have another question to add on to this thread. Why do railroads keep old reporting marks on newly painted cars? There are a great deal of centre flows on CP that have been painted with the CP Rail logo, but still have SOO as their reporting mark. I recently saw a CN hopper car that was obviously newly painted because it carried www.cn.ca under the logo. However it still had IC reporting marks. Why don't the railroads change them to reflect the car's new owner? Would it be too much of a hassle to change in the records?


Sask_T [:)] I have to start getting ready for work and you are most likely in school, therefore tonight /this afternoon you will probally make yout 100 th post. (You are at 97 right now.) I will be at work and miss it therefore, I wanted to say

CONGRADULATIONS ON YOUR SECOND STAR [:)] [:0] [^] [:I] [;)] [8D]

Yes it is a bit early but I will miss the actual 100 th post so I want to get it in now. [:)]


Thanks Jim! This is my 98th post, so I'm just about there. By the time you read this I should be at 100. It'll be a while before I get my third star, though, but eventually I'll have it.


NEXT POST AND YOUR THERE BUDDY [:)] [;)] [^]

HAPPPPYYYYYYYY 100 th POST YOU NEW TWO TIMER YOU. [:D] [:D] [:D]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 1:36 PM
Yep, I made it! Number 102. Only 398 more posts to go before my third star. I'll be waiting for your third, Jim.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 9, 2003 1:36 PM
Yep, I made it! Number 102. Only 398 more posts to go before my third star. I'll be waiting for your third, Jim.

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