Bad train pictures

[Willy2]

I have a question, Are Illinois Central and Kansas City Southern considered to be class 1 railroads?

Willy

[Willy2]

I have a question, Are Illinois Central and Kansas City Southern considered to be class 1 railroads?

Willy

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

Speaking of switch engines, today i saw a switcher pulling a passenger train full of people. Is that normal?

Fifty or sixty years ago it might not have been but today it sure seems a little odd. Was it a railfan trip? [?]

No, it just goes by my house every morning at 11:45AM.
I thought it was weird- but then there was a GP40 in the end- that was probably for HEP.
Railfan trip.... i need to get my own car - then maybe.... But i don't need to go far here for some train action.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

Speaking of switch engines, today i saw a switcher pulling a passenger train full of people. Is that normal?

Fifty or sixty years ago it might not have been but today it sure seems a little odd. Was it a railfan trip? [?]

No, it just goes by my house every morning at 11:45AM.
I thought it was weird- but then there was a GP40 in the end- that was probably for HEP.
Railfan trip.... i need to get my own car - then maybe.... But i don't need to go far here for some train action.

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Done right, drops are a quick way to solve a problem, and done correctly, they are not too unsafe, if you make sure all the components and people involved work correctly and know what to do.

Can you get a lick of sense out of all of that?
Its easier to do than to explain..

I had to read it about 4 times, but I think I get the general idea now. Thanks. [:)]

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Done right, drops are a quick way to solve a problem, and done correctly, they are not too unsafe, if you make sure all the components and people involved work correctly and know what to do.

Can you get a lick of sense out of all of that?
Its easier to do than to explain..

I had to read it about 4 times, but I think I get the general idea now. Thanks. [:)]

--Nora

[Nora]

Can someone tell me if it is normal for sparks to be falling from underneath a train car? We saw a train maybe an hour and a half ago that had one car from which sparks were showering down as it went along. I've never seen that before. I was a little worried about it, but of course there was nothing I could do about it.

[Nora]

Can someone tell me if it is normal for sparks to be falling from underneath a train car? We saw a train maybe an hour and a half ago that had one car from which sparks were showering down as it went along. I've never seen that before. I was a little worried about it, but of course there was nothing I could do about it.

[Modelcar]

.....For sure it's not to be there....Possible draging piece from the car and maybe a brake dragging for some reason...I'm rather sure someone would like to know about such happenings in the manner of safety. Wheel bearing...but if it is making a show of showering sparks and it is a bearing...failure can't be too far down the road. Perhaps some of the active railroaders can add to the possible reasons...

[Modelcar]

.....For sure it's not to be there....Possible draging piece from the car and maybe a brake dragging for some reason...I'm rather sure someone would like to know about such happenings in the manner of safety. Wheel bearing...but if it is making a show of showering sparks and it is a bearing...failure can't be too far down the road. Perhaps some of the active railroaders can add to the possible reasons...

[edblysard]

Every once in a while, we get a car from the coke plant that wasnt cooled off, and the coke is red hot in the center, it sparks some, but other than that, no, you shouldnt see sparks from any part of a railcar.
Were they coming from the wheel, or falling from the trucks?
If so, stuck brake, or a hand brake not released.
Anything else is a big problem, not that a sliding wheel isnt one to begin with.
Get the phone number of the dispatcher in your area, and next time you see this, call them.
A wheel which is sliding instead of rolling on the rail will get a severe flat spot, and can derail the car/train.
No sparks = good thing,
Sparks=bad thing...
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Every once in a while, we get a car from the coke plant that wasnt cooled off, and the coke is red hot in the center, it sparks some, but other than that, no, you shouldnt see sparks from any part of a railcar.
Were they coming from the wheel, or falling from the trucks?
If so, stuck brake, or a hand brake not released.
Anything else is a big problem, not that a sliding wheel isnt one to begin with.
Get the phone number of the dispatcher in your area, and next time you see this, call them.
A wheel which is sliding instead of rolling on the rail will get a severe flat spot, and can derail the car/train.
No sparks = good thing,
Sparks=bad thing...
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Were they coming from the wheel, or falling from the trucks?

I'm not entirely sure...they were coming from slightly above or behind the wheels, but below the main part of the car. They were falling downwards from somewhere. It was dark and the train was moving fairly quickly, so I didn't have too much of a chance to take note of anything other than "what the heck?!"

QUOTE: Get the phone number of the dispatcher in your area, and next time you see this, call them.

Thanks, I will try that if I see it happen again. The thought did cross my mind to let someone know about it, but the only phone number I had was for grade crossing problems, and I wasn't sure it was anything significantly out of the ordinary anyway.

--Nora

[Nora]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Were they coming from the wheel, or falling from the trucks?

I'm not entirely sure...they were coming from slightly above or behind the wheels, but below the main part of the car. They were falling downwards from somewhere. It was dark and the train was moving fairly quickly, so I didn't have too much of a chance to take note of anything other than "what the heck?!"

QUOTE: Get the phone number of the dispatcher in your area, and next time you see this, call them.

Thanks, I will try that if I see it happen again. The thought did cross my mind to let someone know about it, but the only phone number I had was for grade crossing problems, and I wasn't sure it was anything significantly out of the ordinary anyway.

--Nora

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Can someone tell me if it is normal for sparks to be falling from underneath a train car? We saw a train maybe an hour and a half ago that had one car from which sparks were showering down as it went along. I've never seen that before. I was a little worried about it, but of course there was nothing I could do about it.

Hi Nora, many railroads have 1-800 numbers to call for emergencies. Unfortunately when you are operating under duress such numbers can be hard to find. I suggest when you have the time to find such numbers that you write them down and next time you will know what to do and who to call and will be able to find these numbers quickly.

Railcars can carry some pretty nasty stuff so reporting a sighting, such as you saw, might even save lives. In an emergency you might even call 911 surely they have emergency numbers to the local railroads.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

Can someone tell me if it is normal for sparks to be falling from underneath a train car? We saw a train maybe an hour and a half ago that had one car from which sparks were showering down as it went along. I've never seen that before. I was a little worried about it, but of course there was nothing I could do about it.

Hi Nora, many railroads have 1-800 numbers to call for emergencies. Unfortunately when you are operating under duress such numbers can be hard to find. I suggest when you have the time to find such numbers that you write them down and next time you will know what to do and who to call and will be able to find these numbers quickly.

Railcars can carry some pretty nasty stuff so reporting a sighting, such as you saw, might even save lives. In an emergency you might even call 911 surely they have emergency numbers to the local railroads.

[edblysard]

jhhtrainsplanes is correct, if you dont have the number handy, 911 will work, they can contact the railroad directly, and vice versa.
Railroad, as common carriers, have to file a emergency plan with local authorities, and the cops will be able to contact them quickly.
Good idea, jhhtrainsplanes...
Ed

[edblysard]

jhhtrainsplanes is correct, if you dont have the number handy, 911 will work, they can contact the railroad directly, and vice versa.
Railroad, as common carriers, have to file a emergency plan with local authorities, and the cops will be able to contact them quickly.
Good idea, jhhtrainsplanes...
Ed

[wabash1]

what she is describing is either a brake dragging or something from the car hanging dowm dragging on the wheel causing the light show. a dragging brake is very dangerous. the brake shoe gets hot starts to wear down. the brake pad material starts sticking to the wheel. building up. ive seen them so bad they could derail the train. the build up can get the wheel flange up and over the rail. at that point its all over except the clean up. the other thing is the car body itself could have been fallen down onto the wheels.

[wabash1]

what she is describing is either a brake dragging or something from the car hanging dowm dragging on the wheel causing the light show. a dragging brake is very dangerous. the brake shoe gets hot starts to wear down. the brake pad material starts sticking to the wheel. building up. ive seen them so bad they could derail the train. the build up can get the wheel flange up and over the rail. at that point its all over except the clean up. the other thing is the car body itself could have been fallen down onto the wheels.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Thank you Nora for starting this thread. It may become one of the most read and most informative threads yet or ever posted.

Nora has started a good thing here. Now we can all get educated. Again, Thank You, Nora.

Have a great day. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Arf, arf.

As always, stay safe and Look, Listen, and LIVE.

Don't Forget the Troops

Ed for President

Hi Nora, your thread is now on its 8 th page. I don't know what the record is as I have not checked all the threads to see how many pages each has. This thread is probally one of the most viewed and reads threads I have seen. You really "did good" when you started this one. Keep up the good work [;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Thank you Nora for starting this thread. It may become one of the most read and most informative threads yet or ever posted.

Nora has started a good thing here. Now we can all get educated. Again, Thank You, Nora.

Have a great day. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Arf, arf.

As always, stay safe and Look, Listen, and LIVE.

Don't Forget the Troops

Ed for President

Hi Nora, your thread is now on its 8 th page. I don't know what the record is as I have not checked all the threads to see how many pages each has. This thread is probally one of the most viewed and reads threads I have seen. You really "did good" when you started this one. Keep up the good work [;)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Oh Boy, me and my big mouth!

Stay Frosty,
Ed

O K I have more. I will only ask one here and save another for later.

About 10 years ago Russia sent 10 locos over here and they were shipped to Houston. They were payment for something, what I don't know. However, they were never used. I understand they didn't meet FRA requirements. Is this correct? Can you tell us which requirement (s) they didn't meet? What can you tell us about these locos? I understand they were off loaded and still setting there around the dock area. If so I would think this alone would be a problem. Not only in the fact that they are taking up track space but also in the fact that left in the open the elements wouldn't be good for the outside loco and maybe even some parts inside. Also an engine needs to run at least minimally on a regular basis to keep inside parts oiled and hoses from dry rotting. Can these locos still be used with an overhaul? The large class 1s might not want them (possible retooling issues) but a small short line might benefit from them. There was one picture in the Trains mag showing these locos shortly after they arrived. (You know me--send me pics please, and many thanks for those already sent). Do these thing resemble an RS 3. It was hard to tell from the pic and I have slept once or twice (ok once or twice times 365 , times 10 years) since then. I am not a fan of European railroads or Russian ones but it would be interesting to see these units.

Many thanks for all of your answers given thus far and for the many, many more to come. [:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Oh Boy, me and my big mouth!

Stay Frosty,
Ed

O K I have more. I will only ask one here and save another for later.

About 10 years ago Russia sent 10 locos over here and they were shipped to Houston. They were payment for something, what I don't know. However, they were never used. I understand they didn't meet FRA requirements. Is this correct? Can you tell us which requirement (s) they didn't meet? What can you tell us about these locos? I understand they were off loaded and still setting there around the dock area. If so I would think this alone would be a problem. Not only in the fact that they are taking up track space but also in the fact that left in the open the elements wouldn't be good for the outside loco and maybe even some parts inside. Also an engine needs to run at least minimally on a regular basis to keep inside parts oiled and hoses from dry rotting. Can these locos still be used with an overhaul? The large class 1s might not want them (possible retooling issues) but a small short line might benefit from them. There was one picture in the Trains mag showing these locos shortly after they arrived. (You know me--send me pics please, and many thanks for those already sent). Do these thing resemble an RS 3. It was hard to tell from the pic and I have slept once or twice (ok once or twice times 365 , times 10 years) since then. I am not a fan of European railroads or Russian ones but it would be interesting to see these units.

Many thanks for all of your answers given thus far and for the many, many more to come. [:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Thank you Nora for starting this thread. It may become one of the most read and most informative threads yet or ever posted.

Nora has started a good thing here. Now we can all get educated. Again, Thank You, Nora.

Have a great day. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Arf, arf.

As always, stay safe and Look, Listen, and LIVE.

Don't Forget the Troops

Ed for President

Hi Nora, your thread is now on its 8 th page. I don't know what the record is as I have not checked all the threads to see how many pages each has. This thread is probally one of the most viewed and reads threads I have seen. You really "did good" when you started this one. Keep up the good work [;)]

To my knowledge, the longest ever thread was "Railroad Concern For Crossing Safety", which was 12 pages long and had 229 replies. When people mention the saga of the M&M Twins, this is what they're talking about. I don't think there's ever been a thread that's become a more heated agrument either.

This thread isn't too far off from beating that record, though!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Thank you Nora for starting this thread. It may become one of the most read and most informative threads yet or ever posted.

Nora has started a good thing here. Now we can all get educated. Again, Thank You, Nora.

Have a great day. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Arf, arf.

As always, stay safe and Look, Listen, and LIVE.

Don't Forget the Troops

Ed for President

Hi Nora, your thread is now on its 8 th page. I don't know what the record is as I have not checked all the threads to see how many pages each has. This thread is probally one of the most viewed and reads threads I have seen. You really "did good" when you started this one. Keep up the good work [;)]

To my knowledge, the longest ever thread was "Railroad Concern For Crossing Safety", which was 12 pages long and had 229 replies. When people mention the saga of the M&M Twins, this is what they're talking about. I don't think there's ever been a thread that's become a more heated agrument either.

This thread isn't too far off from beating that record, though!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Thank you Nora for starting this thread. It may become one of the most read and most informative threads yet or ever posted.

Nora has started a good thing here. Now we can all get educated. Again, Thank You, Nora.

Have a great day. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Arf, arf.

As always, stay safe and Look, Listen, and LIVE.

Don't Forget the Troops

Ed for President

Hi Nora, your thread is now on its 8 th page. I don't know what the record is as I have not checked all the threads to see how many pages each has. This thread is probally one of the most viewed and reads threads I have seen. You really "did good" when you started this one. Keep up the good work [;)]

To my knowledge, the longest ever thread was "Railroad Concern For Crossing Safety", which was 12 pages long and had 229 replies. When people mention the saga of the M&M Twins, this is what they're talking about. I don't think there's ever been a thread that's become a more heated agrument either.

This thread isn't too far off from beating that record, though!

If that is the thread with MISSOURI on it I know which one it is. That thread really turned me off if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

Thank you Nora for starting this thread. It may become one of the most read and most informative threads yet or ever posted.

Nora has started a good thing here. Now we can all get educated. Again, Thank You, Nora.

Have a great day. Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Arf, arf.

As always, stay safe and Look, Listen, and LIVE.

Don't Forget the Troops

Ed for President

Hi Nora, your thread is now on its 8 th page. I don't know what the record is as I have not checked all the threads to see how many pages each has. This thread is probally one of the most viewed and reads threads I have seen. You really "did good" when you started this one. Keep up the good work [;)]

To my knowledge, the longest ever thread was "Railroad Concern For Crossing Safety", which was 12 pages long and had 229 replies. When people mention the saga of the M&M Twins, this is what they're talking about. I don't think there's ever been a thread that's become a more heated agrument either.

This thread isn't too far off from beating that record, though!

If that is the thread with MISSOURI on it I know which one it is. That thread really turned me off if you know what I mean.

[JoeKoh]

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe

[JoeKoh]

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe