Bad train pictures

[Anonymous]

Hey, if you guys have questions about russian engines, ask me, i kinda spent first 13 years of my life there.

[Anonymous]

Hey, if you guys have questions about russian engines, ask me, i kinda spent first 13 years of my life there.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe

JoeKoh, say it ain't so, the death of any engine (even a lowly ge) is to be mourned. [:(] [|)] [V]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe

JoeKoh, say it ain't so, the death of any engine (even a lowly ge) is to be mourned. [:(] [|)] [V]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe

JoeKoh, say it ain't so, the death of any engine (even a lowly ge) is to be mourned. [:(] [|)] [V]

Don't be sad, the Russian engines still survive! Want to buy one? They're up for sale. Check out www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ for more information.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe

JoeKoh, say it ain't so, the death of any engine (even a lowly ge) is to be mourned. [:(] [|)] [V]

Don't be sad, the Russian engines still survive! Want to buy one? They're up for sale. Check out www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ for more information.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe

JoeKoh, say it ain't so, the death of any engine (even a lowly ge) is to be mourned. [:(] [|)] [V]

Don't be sad, the Russian engines still survive! Want to buy one? They're up for sale. Check out www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ for more information.

Thanks Sask_T [:)] I checked the site. Well they aren't exactly the best looking locomotive ever made. But as someone once said to me, "A little paint will make any old barn look better". (He was talking about women wearing makeup--but we won't go there.) Anyway maybe someone somewhere can use them. [8D]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Sask_Tinplater

QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by JoeKoh

if I remember right I beleive those russian engines were sent to the scrapper.
stay safe
joe

JoeKoh, say it ain't so, the death of any engine (even a lowly ge) is to be mourned. [:(] [|)] [V]

Don't be sad, the Russian engines still survive! Want to buy one? They're up for sale. Check out www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ for more information.

Thanks Sask_T [:)] I checked the site. Well they aren't exactly the best looking locomotive ever made. But as someone once said to me, "A little paint will make any old barn look better". (He was talking about women wearing makeup--but we won't go there.) Anyway maybe someone somewhere can use them. [8D]

[Willy2]

Here's another question. When 2 trains meet why do the engineers turn the headlights to dim? I can never figure that one out.

Willy

[Willy2]

Here's another question. When 2 trains meet why do the engineers turn the headlights to dim? I can never figure that one out.

Willy

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

Here's another question. When 2 trains meet why do the engineers turn the headlights to dim? I can never figure that one out.

Willy

GCOR rule5.9.1 requires that the headlight be dimmed when meeting an approaching move, and if stopped in a siding to shut hte headlight completely off if the opposing crew requests it on the radio. Kinda like dimming your bright lightsat night. Imanut

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

Here's another question. When 2 trains meet why do the engineers turn the headlights to dim? I can never figure that one out.

Willy

GCOR rule5.9.1 requires that the headlight be dimmed when meeting an approaching move, and if stopped in a siding to shut hte headlight completely off if the opposing crew requests it on the radio. Kinda like dimming your bright lightsat night. Imanut

[joho2486]

QUOTE: Originally posted by w2alb

Boy! What a thread for me, who knows so little it's embarrasing.

My grandfather worked for the NC&StL, among others, starting at 14 years old. He didn't tell me much about his days on the line, so I remain largely ignorant.

For many years I lived across the street (separated by a jungle) from the L&N mainline and yard in Marietta, GA. Never forget the night the water tower caught fire and burned about half up!

Today's stupid question : what do the last letters of reporting marks signify? The only one I know is that X means a leased car. Thus, CSX usually marks cars CSXT (not leased). Can some kind and knowledgable soul enlighten me (and, probably, most of us?

Mungo

As for the other part of the question, the "T" in the reporting mark CSXT means "Transportation." Obviously, as you have stated, CSX can't use it's name as a reporting mark, as "X" signifies that the equipment belongs to a leasing firm.

[joho2486]

QUOTE: Originally posted by w2alb

Boy! What a thread for me, who knows so little it's embarrasing.

My grandfather worked for the NC&StL, among others, starting at 14 years old. He didn't tell me much about his days on the line, so I remain largely ignorant.

For many years I lived across the street (separated by a jungle) from the L&N mainline and yard in Marietta, GA. Never forget the night the water tower caught fire and burned about half up!

Today's stupid question : what do the last letters of reporting marks signify? The only one I know is that X means a leased car. Thus, CSX usually marks cars CSXT (not leased). Can some kind and knowledgable soul enlighten me (and, probably, most of us?

Mungo

As for the other part of the question, the "T" in the reporting mark CSXT means "Transportation." Obviously, as you have stated, CSX can't use it's name as a reporting mark, as "X" signifies that the equipment belongs to a leasing firm.

[joho2486]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

I have a question, Are Illinois Central and Kansas City Southern considered to be class 1 railroads?

Willy

Illinois Central is owned by Canadian National, and at last word, CN was in the process of phasing out the IC name in IC territory, replacing it with CN. As for Kansas City Southern, it is classified as a Class I, though it is the smallest of the Class I railroads. This is in the center of a huge debate over who is going to buy it, and whether this transaction would spark the last round of mergers.

[joho2486]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Willy2

I have a question, Are Illinois Central and Kansas City Southern considered to be class 1 railroads?

Willy

Illinois Central is owned by Canadian National, and at last word, CN was in the process of phasing out the IC name in IC territory, replacing it with CN. As for Kansas City Southern, it is classified as a Class I, though it is the smallest of the Class I railroads. This is in the center of a huge debate over who is going to buy it, and whether this transaction would spark the last round of mergers.

[edblysard]

Hi Jim and Joe,

The locomotives your are referring to were a trade for grain, a elevator co-op sent grain, in exchange for the locos, to use at their elevators and pull unit trains for them,.
I belive it was Acrher Daniel Midland, but not sure.
The locomotives are big, ugly boxs, very primitive by anyones standards, none of the brake components could be swapped with American components, the traction motors were wired oddly, the whole deal was a bust.
The FRA condemened the locos as unsafe, and the cost to bring them up the FRA miminum standards would exceed the cost of new American built road power.
These things are huge, as long as a SD90Mac, and about as tall.
They still sit, as of last year sometime, on a fenced sideing just off the Brown Industrial lead in Jacintoport, on Jacintoport blvd.
As far as I know, they have never been started, nor have they moved since we towed them out there and parked them.
Its been about a year since I worked that lead, so they may be gone for scrap.
Climbed into one, the engineers seat was a barstool top on a pedestal, the conductor and brakeman seat were fold down metal shelves.
The diesels were huge, but were coupled to generators, old copies of what looks like GE generators, not alternators like most locomotives from the 60s and up.
They ride on 6 axel trucks, and if I remember correctly, the center axel was offset towards the center of the loco on both front and rear trucks.

The control stand looked like something copied from the early EMD stands in SW 6s and 9s.
No such thing as a toliet, even though with their tall front hoods, one would fit quite nicley.
They are painted a industrial orange/brown with a white strip, the orange/brown has faded to almost a peach color.
The front hood had what looked like a steam generator in it, but it was so rusted and beat up that it could have been a kitchen stove for all I could tell.

All of the control panel switches, both on the stand and the back wall, appeared to be plain old household light switches.
The overhead light had a pullchain on it.
No A/C, or heating unit that I could see or find.

And it appeared that they couldnt be run MUed to each other, they only had a single air hose for the train brake on the pilots, nothing else.
If they did run in MU, then a engineer would have had to have been on each unit to operate the throttle, I couldnt find a MU plug, or anything that even resembled one.
Junk is a nice way to describe these motors.

If this is an example of standard Russian mainline freight locomotives, I really pity the crews.

Next time I get out that way, if they are still there I will get you guys some photos.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[edblysard]

Hi Jim and Joe,

The locomotives your are referring to were a trade for grain, a elevator co-op sent grain, in exchange for the locos, to use at their elevators and pull unit trains for them,.
I belive it was Acrher Daniel Midland, but not sure.
The locomotives are big, ugly boxs, very primitive by anyones standards, none of the brake components could be swapped with American components, the traction motors were wired oddly, the whole deal was a bust.
The FRA condemened the locos as unsafe, and the cost to bring them up the FRA miminum standards would exceed the cost of new American built road power.
These things are huge, as long as a SD90Mac, and about as tall.
They still sit, as of last year sometime, on a fenced sideing just off the Brown Industrial lead in Jacintoport, on Jacintoport blvd.
As far as I know, they have never been started, nor have they moved since we towed them out there and parked them.
Its been about a year since I worked that lead, so they may be gone for scrap.
Climbed into one, the engineers seat was a barstool top on a pedestal, the conductor and brakeman seat were fold down metal shelves.
The diesels were huge, but were coupled to generators, old copies of what looks like GE generators, not alternators like most locomotives from the 60s and up.
They ride on 6 axel trucks, and if I remember correctly, the center axel was offset towards the center of the loco on both front and rear trucks.

The control stand looked like something copied from the early EMD stands in SW 6s and 9s.
No such thing as a toliet, even though with their tall front hoods, one would fit quite nicley.
They are painted a industrial orange/brown with a white strip, the orange/brown has faded to almost a peach color.
The front hood had what looked like a steam generator in it, but it was so rusted and beat up that it could have been a kitchen stove for all I could tell.

All of the control panel switches, both on the stand and the back wall, appeared to be plain old household light switches.
The overhead light had a pullchain on it.
No A/C, or heating unit that I could see or find.

And it appeared that they couldnt be run MUed to each other, they only had a single air hose for the train brake on the pilots, nothing else.
If they did run in MU, then a engineer would have had to have been on each unit to operate the throttle, I couldnt find a MU plug, or anything that even resembled one.
Junk is a nice way to describe these motors.

If this is an example of standard Russian mainline freight locomotives, I really pity the crews.

Next time I get out that way, if they are still there I will get you guys some photos.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

[Nora]

After all of everyone's dire warnings about what the sparks I saw could have been, I feel awful that I didn't do anything about it...if I see that again, I definitely will. I hope no one has heard of anything bad happening on the NS line (I think it's the Ft. Wayne line) Saturday night in PA or OH. That's where I saw the train. I looked up their emergency number and it's in my cell phone now; hopefully I won't need it.

--Nora

[Nora]

After all of everyone's dire warnings about what the sparks I saw could have been, I feel awful that I didn't do anything about it...if I see that again, I definitely will. I hope no one has heard of anything bad happening on the NS line (I think it's the Ft. Wayne line) Saturday night in PA or OH. That's where I saw the train. I looked up their emergency number and it's in my cell phone now; hopefully I won't need it.

--Nora

[Anonymous]

I' ve seen russian locos, a lot of times, back in Russia. All i can say is most of them are old. But we're talking abount diesel locos. Most lines in Russia are electrified, so about 70% of freight and passenger trains are moved by electic locomotives, which are much newer, cleaner, more powerfull and faster. But they don't have railroad companies like Amtak, UP or BNSF. It's all federally owned and operated.
Ed, it would be nice to see some photos, please.

[Anonymous]

I' ve seen russian locos, a lot of times, back in Russia. All i can say is most of them are old. But we're talking abount diesel locos. Most lines in Russia are electrified, so about 70% of freight and passenger trains are moved by electic locomotives, which are much newer, cleaner, more powerfull and faster. But they don't have railroad companies like Amtak, UP or BNSF. It's all federally owned and operated.
Ed, it would be nice to see some photos, please.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

After all of everyone's dire warnings about what the sparks I saw could have been, I feel awful that I didn't do anything about it...if I see that again, I definitely will. I hope no one has heard of anything bad happening on the NS line (I think it's the Ft. Wayne line) Saturday night in PA or OH. That's where I saw the train. I looked up their emergency number and it's in my cell phone now; hopefully I won't need it.

--Nora

GOOD FOR YOU NORA, We all hope you never have to use them. Don't feel bad. Hopefully, the train would have past a hot box detector and it would have told them about it. When I worked as a car host on steam engine runs the firebox was always setting off the detectors. O K Ed, I guess you can figure out what your next question is. Someone is sure to ask about ... detectors. So get ready. [;)] Actually this isn't the next question I had planned but its seems a natural choice here. And maybe it will help Nora not to feel so bad. [:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

After all of everyone's dire warnings about what the sparks I saw could have been, I feel awful that I didn't do anything about it...if I see that again, I definitely will. I hope no one has heard of anything bad happening on the NS line (I think it's the Ft. Wayne line) Saturday night in PA or OH. That's where I saw the train. I looked up their emergency number and it's in my cell phone now; hopefully I won't need it.

--Nora

GOOD FOR YOU NORA, We all hope you never have to use them. Don't feel bad. Hopefully, the train would have past a hot box detector and it would have told them about it. When I worked as a car host on steam engine runs the firebox was always setting off the detectors. O K Ed, I guess you can figure out what your next question is. Someone is sure to ask about ... detectors. So get ready. [;)] Actually this isn't the next question I had planned but its seems a natural choice here. And maybe it will help Nora not to feel so bad. [:)]

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard


As far as I know, they have never been started, nor have they moved since we towed them out there and parked them.

Ed,
On the website I mentioned ( www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ ) it states that at one point they had to be moved so that the grass around them could be cut. When they moved them they all started fine and moved without any problems. When the grass was cut they moved them all back.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard


As far as I know, they have never been started, nor have they moved since we towed them out there and parked them.

Ed,
On the website I mentioned ( www.pernet.net/~james1/russian/ ) it states that at one point they had to be moved so that the grass around them could be cut. When they moved them they all started fine and moved without any problems. When the grass was cut they moved them all back.

[Anonymous]

RE: Reporting Marks

Well, I finally answered my own stupid question. See, I'm learning already.[:p]

All marks for railroads must have the first letter of the mark be the same as the company or road name.

Private Marks are four letters. Privately owned railcars end in X (as in GATX).
All trailer/chassis equipment marks end in Z (as in TIPZ).
All container marks end in U.

Hope somebody besides me didn't know all that.

Mungo

[Anonymous]

RE: Reporting Marks

Well, I finally answered my own stupid question. See, I'm learning already.[:p]

All marks for railroads must have the first letter of the mark be the same as the company or road name.

Private Marks are four letters. Privately owned railcars end in X (as in GATX).
All trailer/chassis equipment marks end in Z (as in TIPZ).
All container marks end in U.

Hope somebody besides me didn't know all that.

Mungo

[Anonymous]

If you wanna really be stumped, try remembering all of the car kind codes. I can't even remember them and I work with them everyday...........
Ken

[Anonymous]

If you wanna really be stumped, try remembering all of the car kind codes. I can't even remember them and I work with them everyday...........
Ken