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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:51 PM
Hi Nora,
The wrench is stored in the engine, it is used to losen or tighten the main air hose where it comes out of the cars and the locomotive.
Most locomotives carry a spare air hose and wrench just in case one of the fittings or hoses break.
One end of the hose has the glad hand, or the piece that couples the hoses between the cars together, the other end has a threaded hex head fitting that screws into the main or train line(main air brake hose).
On occasion, these need to be replaced "on the road" due to the glad hand being damaged when the strap that holds it up off the ground breaks, and the hand end of the hose drags the ground, or thethreaded fitting itself may break or fail due to age and rust.
Eitehr someone forgot to put the wrench back, or left it on a walkway and it fell off where you found it.
You will find a bunch of odd pieces of junk laying around yards and main lines.
Stay Frosty,
and have you figured out what Mookie's yellow thingies are?
I wont tell and spoil her surprise!
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:51 PM
Hi Nora,
The wrench is stored in the engine, it is used to losen or tighten the main air hose where it comes out of the cars and the locomotive.
Most locomotives carry a spare air hose and wrench just in case one of the fittings or hoses break.
One end of the hose has the glad hand, or the piece that couples the hoses between the cars together, the other end has a threaded hex head fitting that screws into the main or train line(main air brake hose).
On occasion, these need to be replaced "on the road" due to the glad hand being damaged when the strap that holds it up off the ground breaks, and the hand end of the hose drags the ground, or thethreaded fitting itself may break or fail due to age and rust.
Eitehr someone forgot to put the wrench back, or left it on a walkway and it fell off where you found it.
You will find a bunch of odd pieces of junk laying around yards and main lines.
Stay Frosty,
and have you figured out what Mookie's yellow thingies are?
I wont tell and spoil her surprise!
Ed[:D]

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Posted by wabash1 on Friday, September 12, 2003 11:52 AM
Ed

You forgot the one where you are going along and the darn train goes into emergency. ( never mind that its the weekend and your 15 min from being in and getting off.) and the conductor walks all the way to the 102 car and because the strap was broken the air hose has been rubbed thru. . Nora what you found was a wrench made for changing out air hoses these go bad from simple wear and tear. or from failer. the wrench was left there in some cases so mow people will pick it up and haul it in.( at least that is what happens on our railroad if the conductor dont feel like dragging it up to the head end again) no big deal if you dont put it back there is plenty of these around.
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Posted by wabash1 on Friday, September 12, 2003 11:52 AM
Ed

You forgot the one where you are going along and the darn train goes into emergency. ( never mind that its the weekend and your 15 min from being in and getting off.) and the conductor walks all the way to the 102 car and because the strap was broken the air hose has been rubbed thru. . Nora what you found was a wrench made for changing out air hoses these go bad from simple wear and tear. or from failer. the wrench was left there in some cases so mow people will pick it up and haul it in.( at least that is what happens on our railroad if the conductor dont feel like dragging it up to the head end again) no big deal if you dont put it back there is plenty of these around.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:24 PM
Ok, here's question concerning crossing gates. I know that the track circuit activates the gates. What is it that causes them to activate when the train is at different distances, based on the trains speed. If we have a fast train coming, the gates lower when the train is still about 1/8 of a mile away. If the train is gowing real slow, like maybe 5mph, the gates don't lower until it is about 100 feet away. Why is that? Does it have something to do with the "logic box" I saw refered to in a different posting?

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, September 12, 2003 1:24 PM
Ok, here's question concerning crossing gates. I know that the track circuit activates the gates. What is it that causes them to activate when the train is at different distances, based on the trains speed. If we have a fast train coming, the gates lower when the train is still about 1/8 of a mile away. If the train is gowing real slow, like maybe 5mph, the gates don't lower until it is about 100 feet away. Why is that? Does it have something to do with the "logic box" I saw refered to in a different posting?

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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, September 12, 2003 2:21 PM
It's not always an electrical circuit. Could be a PMD motion detector (sonic) and a computer logic ciruit/chip gauging speed. Depends what's inside the signal bungalow and how it's hooked-up.

Moral of story: DO NOT ASSUME how the system works, take nothing for granted and ALWAYS be aware and alert around railroads. Complacency Kills!
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by mudchicken on Friday, September 12, 2003 2:21 PM
It's not always an electrical circuit. Could be a PMD motion detector (sonic) and a computer logic ciruit/chip gauging speed. Depends what's inside the signal bungalow and how it's hooked-up.

Moral of story: DO NOT ASSUME how the system works, take nothing for granted and ALWAYS be aware and alert around railroads. Complacency Kills!
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:51 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Moral of story: DO NOT ASSUME how the system works, take nothing for granted and ALWAYS be aware and alert around railroads. Complacency Kills!


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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:51 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by mudchicken

Moral of story: DO NOT ASSUME how the system works, take nothing for granted and ALWAYS be aware and alert around railroads. Complacency Kills!


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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:38 AM
ok - some follow-up. I went out this weekend - Had nothing better to do for a couple of hours, so went train watching.

Saw two yellow thingies. Saw the small scanners on the side of coal cars. They were at one end of the car - last panel (or first if going out of town.) BUT - on the other end of the side of the car, the very last or first panel also had a square "slot" - from my vantage point it looked like a small card holder. It was open faced, like you would slip a large calling card behind the face plate. Most were empty but some had something in them. Go look at a boxcar and go to the opposite end of the scanner and tell me what those are.

And if you are still paying attention - the yellow thingies are FRED holders. They ride on the side of the engines and wait for FRED to visit.

How am I doing guys? Do I have this railroad terminology down or what!!!

Mookie

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 6:38 AM
ok - some follow-up. I went out this weekend - Had nothing better to do for a couple of hours, so went train watching.

Saw two yellow thingies. Saw the small scanners on the side of coal cars. They were at one end of the car - last panel (or first if going out of town.) BUT - on the other end of the side of the car, the very last or first panel also had a square "slot" - from my vantage point it looked like a small card holder. It was open faced, like you would slip a large calling card behind the face plate. Most were empty but some had something in them. Go look at a boxcar and go to the opposite end of the scanner and tell me what those are.

And if you are still paying attention - the yellow thingies are FRED holders. They ride on the side of the engines and wait for FRED to visit.

How am I doing guys? Do I have this railroad terminology down or what!!!

Mookie

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Posted by Nora on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

ok - some follow-up. I went out this weekend - Had nothing better to do for a couple of hours, so went train watching.

Saw two yellow thingies. Saw the small scanners on the side of coal cars. They were at one end of the car - last panel (or first if going out of town.) BUT - on the other end of the side of the car, the very last or first panel also had a square "slot" - from my vantage point it looked like a small card holder. It was open faced, like you would slip a large calling card behind the face plate. Most were empty but some had something in them. Go look at a boxcar and go to the opposite end of the scanner and tell me what those are.

And if you are still paying attention - the yellow thingies are FRED holders. They ride on the side of the engines and wait for FRED to visit.

How am I doing guys? Do I have this railroad terminology down or what!!!

Mookie


I think I saw a yellow thingie yesterday. Well, I definitely saw a yellow thingie, but not sure if it was the same yellow thingie you are talking about. It was kind of arrow shaped and pointing down & was bolted to the bottom edge of the engine (above the wheels). Is this the same thing?

And weirdly enough, I also noticed the "card holder" things for the first time yesterday, too! I think it's a place to put a card saying what's wrong with the car if it's broken. Something I saw stenciled over the holder led me to believe this, but I can't remember exactly what it said. If the cars are still sitting there today, and it's dry enough to go for our walk I will try to take note of what it says. (I answered a question! I answered a question! (I think))

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Posted by Nora on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:22 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

ok - some follow-up. I went out this weekend - Had nothing better to do for a couple of hours, so went train watching.

Saw two yellow thingies. Saw the small scanners on the side of coal cars. They were at one end of the car - last panel (or first if going out of town.) BUT - on the other end of the side of the car, the very last or first panel also had a square "slot" - from my vantage point it looked like a small card holder. It was open faced, like you would slip a large calling card behind the face plate. Most were empty but some had something in them. Go look at a boxcar and go to the opposite end of the scanner and tell me what those are.

And if you are still paying attention - the yellow thingies are FRED holders. They ride on the side of the engines and wait for FRED to visit.

How am I doing guys? Do I have this railroad terminology down or what!!!

Mookie


I think I saw a yellow thingie yesterday. Well, I definitely saw a yellow thingie, but not sure if it was the same yellow thingie you are talking about. It was kind of arrow shaped and pointing down & was bolted to the bottom edge of the engine (above the wheels). Is this the same thing?

And weirdly enough, I also noticed the "card holder" things for the first time yesterday, too! I think it's a place to put a card saying what's wrong with the car if it's broken. Something I saw stenciled over the holder led me to believe this, but I can't remember exactly what it said. If the cars are still sitting there today, and it's dry enough to go for our walk I will try to take note of what it says. (I answered a question! I answered a question! (I think))

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:48 AM
Yes, you did!
Kinda fun, isnt it?
Seems Jenny is having fun too!
You girls go!
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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:48 AM
Yes, you did!
Kinda fun, isnt it?
Seems Jenny is having fun too!
You girls go!
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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:25 PM
Nora - I know the yellow thingie has a square box and next to it is an open thingie where you would put the FRED. We girls understand all this terminology. I have never heard how they are attached to the engine itself, but they are fairly yellow and when they have been repainted recently, they are hard to miss.

I am so glad you saw the card holder. I think sometimes the forum people think I am imagining things. And you have a distinct advantage over me - you can see your things fairly close and still. I only get to see things as they travel past me. Gotta get a better vantage point! Maybe if I dress like a snake, a muddy chicken or a weasel.......

Jen

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:25 PM
Nora - I know the yellow thingie has a square box and next to it is an open thingie where you would put the FRED. We girls understand all this terminology. I have never heard how they are attached to the engine itself, but they are fairly yellow and when they have been repainted recently, they are hard to miss.

I am so glad you saw the card holder. I think sometimes the forum people think I am imagining things. And you have a distinct advantage over me - you can see your things fairly close and still. I only get to see things as they travel past me. Gotta get a better vantage point! Maybe if I dress like a snake, a muddy chicken or a weasel.......

Jen

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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:49 PM
The "card holder" is where one places the bad order card (usually orange, some white, about the came size as the old computer cards) it goes in the holder en route to its home terminal along with another card stapled to a 16" square board (at least on boxcars and some gons).
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by mudchicken on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:49 PM
The "card holder" is where one places the bad order card (usually orange, some white, about the came size as the old computer cards) it goes in the holder en route to its home terminal along with another card stapled to a 16" square board (at least on boxcars and some gons).
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:05 PM
There is a sign on tracks near my house and it says this:
J
1

I was thinking it meant "junction"
Any ideas[?]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 10:05 PM
There is a sign on tracks near my house and it says this:
J
1

I was thinking it meant "junction"
Any ideas[?]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

There is a sign on tracks near my house and it says this:
J
1

I was thinking it meant "junction"
Any ideas[?]


I think it means Jim is # 1. [:D] But that is just MY opinion. [:p]
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:32 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

There is a sign on tracks near my house and it says this:
J
1

I was thinking it meant "junction"
Any ideas[?]


I think it means Jim is # 1. [:D] But that is just MY opinion. [:p]
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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:50 PM
Nora, the card holder is just that, what you saw stenciled above it was "defect card"
On some tank cars, istead of a square holder, it is a steel tube with a small cap on one end.
On tanks, it is hard to see because it is mounted in odd places on the frame or sill, but it is always around eye level.
Defect cards are filled out by car men/car inspectors while they check out a inbound train, and any cars with a defect, from broken safety appliances to defective wheels will get a card, noting what defect the inspector found, and the crew who switches the cars out will cut this car out to a rip track.
Rip means Repair In Place.
Cars marked to a rip track have minor repairs needed, brake shoes, bent grab irons, anything that can be repaired without major disassembly of the car.
Heavy wreck damage cars are held out and after the car owner is contacted, they may be repaired on property, or returned to the owner for disposition.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by edblysard on Tuesday, September 16, 2003 11:50 PM
Nora, the card holder is just that, what you saw stenciled above it was "defect card"
On some tank cars, istead of a square holder, it is a steel tube with a small cap on one end.
On tanks, it is hard to see because it is mounted in odd places on the frame or sill, but it is always around eye level.
Defect cards are filled out by car men/car inspectors while they check out a inbound train, and any cars with a defect, from broken safety appliances to defective wheels will get a card, noting what defect the inspector found, and the crew who switches the cars out will cut this car out to a rip track.
Rip means Repair In Place.
Cars marked to a rip track have minor repairs needed, brake shoes, bent grab irons, anything that can be repaired without major disassembly of the car.
Heavy wreck damage cars are held out and after the car owner is contacted, they may be repaired on property, or returned to the owner for disposition.
Stay Frosty,
Ed

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Defect cards are filled out by car men/car inspectors while they check out a inbound train, and any cars with a defect, from broken safety appliances to defective wheels will get a card, noting what defect the inspector found, and the crew who switches the cars out will cut this car out to a rip track.
Rip means Repair In Place.
Cars marked to a rip track have minor repairs needed, brake shoes, bent grab irons, anything that can be repaired without major disassembly of the car.
Heavy wreck damage cars are held out and after the car owner is contacted, they may be repaired on property, or returned to the owner for disposition.
Stay Frosty,
Ed


What about the costs involved in repairing another "roads" eqiupment? Is there a bill send and paid or credit issued for part/supplies/labor etc?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Defect cards are filled out by car men/car inspectors while they check out a inbound train, and any cars with a defect, from broken safety appliances to defective wheels will get a card, noting what defect the inspector found, and the crew who switches the cars out will cut this car out to a rip track.
Rip means Repair In Place.
Cars marked to a rip track have minor repairs needed, brake shoes, bent grab irons, anything that can be repaired without major disassembly of the car.
Heavy wreck damage cars are held out and after the car owner is contacted, they may be repaired on property, or returned to the owner for disposition.
Stay Frosty,
Ed


What about the costs involved in repairing another "roads" eqiupment? Is there a bill send and paid or credit issued for part/supplies/labor etc?
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

There is a sign on tracks near my house and it says this:
J
1

I was thinking it meant "junction"
Any ideas[?]


I think it means Jim is # 1. [:D] But that is just MY opinion. [:p]



Good one, Jim.[:)] i should also mention that the sign is double-sided
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:53 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by jhhtrainsplanes

QUOTE: Originally posted by Alaskaman

There is a sign on tracks near my house and it says this:
J
1

I was thinking it meant "junction"
Any ideas[?]


I think it means Jim is # 1. [:D] But that is just MY opinion. [:p]



Good one, Jim.[:)] i should also mention that the sign is double-sided

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