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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:31 AM
Is this what you saw. I probably didn't do the link right but it is a picture of what you described. The car does look like a dynometer car, not sure what the other is, looks like a booster unit, maybe to provide power to the car. The pictures list them as track geometry cars??

http://www.trainweb.org/conrail/ns/ns33.htm

Also there was this, which looks like a converted standard passenger car, for what I don't know:

http://www.trainweb.org/conrail/ns/ns32.htm

Norfolk Southern Research netted the below. Not sure if it ties into one of the cars or not.

Greasing the Skids . . . or Rails with Soybeans

SoyTrak™ is a new, environmentally friendly grease made out of soybeans and used to lubricate the rail curves of railroad tracks. It’s processed and turned into grease on the farm where the soybeans are first picked. It is biodegradable and more efficient than petroleum grease in reducing wear because of its greater durability and capacity for reducing friction. SoyTrak™ is now in use on Norfolk Southern Railway.

The idea for a soybean-based lubricant came out of the University of Northern Iowa’s (UNI) Ag-based Industrial Lubricants Research Program. Funding was provided in part by USDA’s Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service (CSREES). CSREES is USDA’s lead agency for extramural research.

“ Norfolk Southern’s use of this grease gives new credibility to biobased industrial products,” said Carmela Bailey, National Program Leader for Agricultural Materials at CSREES. “The fact that this product results from a USDA-funded project shows a return on the public’s investment for agricultural-added research.”

The project began 3 years ago with pilot manufacturing plants on three farm sites where soybeans were picked and crushed. The meal was used for livestock feed and the oil to make grease. Two of the farm sites used a room temperature grease-blending process while the third used a high temperature process to produce SoyTrak™. Both summer- and winter- blends are available, and an all-season blend is now being developed.

To ensure quality, UNI researchers prepared and delivered component materials to the farm sites for blending. The finished greases were then brought back to the research facility for batch testing and packaging.

Norfolk Southern’s Research and Test Department in Roanoke, VA spent 3 years testing the grease to ensure it met the demanding requirements of freight railroads. Norfolk Southern operates 21,500 miles in 22 states and is the nation’s largest rail carrier of automotive parts and finished vehicles.

SoyTrak™ is just one of several dozen new industrial lubricants, greases, and base oils made from soybeans.

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Posted by dharmon on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:31 AM
Is this what you saw. I probably didn't do the link right but it is a picture of what you described. The car does look like a dynometer car, not sure what the other is, looks like a booster unit, maybe to provide power to the car. The pictures list them as track geometry cars??

http://www.trainweb.org/conrail/ns/ns33.htm

Also there was this, which looks like a converted standard passenger car, for what I don't know:

http://www.trainweb.org/conrail/ns/ns32.htm

Norfolk Southern Research netted the below. Not sure if it ties into one of the cars or not.

Greasing the Skids . . . or Rails with Soybeans

SoyTrak™ is a new, environmentally friendly grease made out of soybeans and used to lubricate the rail curves of railroad tracks. It’s processed and turned into grease on the farm where the soybeans are first picked. It is biodegradable and more efficient than petroleum grease in reducing wear because of its greater durability and capacity for reducing friction. SoyTrak™ is now in use on Norfolk Southern Railway.

The idea for a soybean-based lubricant came out of the University of Northern Iowa’s (UNI) Ag-based Industrial Lubricants Research Program. Funding was provided in part by USDA’s Cooperative State Research, Education, and Extension Service (CSREES). CSREES is USDA’s lead agency for extramural research.

“ Norfolk Southern’s use of this grease gives new credibility to biobased industrial products,” said Carmela Bailey, National Program Leader for Agricultural Materials at CSREES. “The fact that this product results from a USDA-funded project shows a return on the public’s investment for agricultural-added research.”

The project began 3 years ago with pilot manufacturing plants on three farm sites where soybeans were picked and crushed. The meal was used for livestock feed and the oil to make grease. Two of the farm sites used a room temperature grease-blending process while the third used a high temperature process to produce SoyTrak™. Both summer- and winter- blends are available, and an all-season blend is now being developed.

To ensure quality, UNI researchers prepared and delivered component materials to the farm sites for blending. The finished greases were then brought back to the research facility for batch testing and packaging.

Norfolk Southern’s Research and Test Department in Roanoke, VA spent 3 years testing the grease to ensure it met the demanding requirements of freight railroads. Norfolk Southern operates 21,500 miles in 22 states and is the nation’s largest rail carrier of automotive parts and finished vehicles.

SoyTrak™ is just one of several dozen new industrial lubricants, greases, and base oils made from soybeans.

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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:57 AM
ns engines 2214 2373 are the old switchers engine 2214 is a 1500 hp sw1500 and the other 2373 is a mp15dc 1500 hp . that cute little research car with the cameras and lights and pretty paint job is a pain. it dont matter if you are working it or waiting on it to go by.
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Posted by wabash1 on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:57 AM
ns engines 2214 2373 are the old switchers engine 2214 is a 1500 hp sw1500 and the other 2373 is a mp15dc 1500 hp . that cute little research car with the cameras and lights and pretty paint job is a pain. it dont matter if you are working it or waiting on it to go by.
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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Is this what you saw. I probably didn't do the link right but it is a picture of what you described. The car does look like a dynometer car, not sure what the other is, looks like a booster unit, maybe to provide power to the car. The pictures list them as track geometry cars??

http://www.trainweb.org/conrail/ns/ns33.htm



That's exactly what I saw, I think it's even the very same one because the one I saw did have #33 on it. I didn't see any soybeans, though. [:)] Thanks for the link.

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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:35 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

Is this what you saw. I probably didn't do the link right but it is a picture of what you described. The car does look like a dynometer car, not sure what the other is, looks like a booster unit, maybe to provide power to the car. The pictures list them as track geometry cars??

http://www.trainweb.org/conrail/ns/ns33.htm



That's exactly what I saw, I think it's even the very same one because the one I saw did have #33 on it. I didn't see any soybeans, though. [:)] Thanks for the link.

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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

ns engines 2214 2373 are the old switchers engine 2214 is a 1500 hp sw1500 and the other 2373 is a mp15dc 1500 hp . that cute little research car with the cameras and lights and pretty paint job is a pain. it dont matter if you are working it or waiting on it to go by.


Thanks for answering my question about the two engines. They did look old, and very tiny compared to the other engines in the train.

Why is the research car such a pain? I did notice that there was a train just sitting and waiting nearby for muuuuuch longer than usual (like 2 hours) -- maybe that was the research car snarling things up?

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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:48 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by wabash1

ns engines 2214 2373 are the old switchers engine 2214 is a 1500 hp sw1500 and the other 2373 is a mp15dc 1500 hp . that cute little research car with the cameras and lights and pretty paint job is a pain. it dont matter if you are working it or waiting on it to go by.


Thanks for answering my question about the two engines. They did look old, and very tiny compared to the other engines in the train.

Why is the research car such a pain? I did notice that there was a train just sitting and waiting nearby for muuuuuch longer than usual (like 2 hours) -- maybe that was the research car snarling things up?

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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:53 PM
OK, this does not warrant a thread of its own, so I'll just add it here...we're moving this weekend, and while I will probably be around a little over the next couple of days, I don't know exactly when we'll pack up the computer.

The whole moving thing is a big saga, but we are moving into an apartment for a couple weeks before moving into a house, and we're not going to bother to hook up internet access for just a few weeks. Might go to the library to check my email, but I might not even do that.

So if anyone responds to any of my posts over the next few days or weeks and I am not around, I'm not ignoring anyone, I'm probably just having a nervous breakdown in the middle of moving.

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Posted by Nora on Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:53 PM
OK, this does not warrant a thread of its own, so I'll just add it here...we're moving this weekend, and while I will probably be around a little over the next couple of days, I don't know exactly when we'll pack up the computer.

The whole moving thing is a big saga, but we are moving into an apartment for a couple weeks before moving into a house, and we're not going to bother to hook up internet access for just a few weeks. Might go to the library to check my email, but I might not even do that.

So if anyone responds to any of my posts over the next few days or weeks and I am not around, I'm not ignoring anyone, I'm probably just having a nervous breakdown in the middle of moving.

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:18 AM
Ah,
But if the house is near the tracks, with a fenced back yard and porch to sit and watch trains from,
wouldnt it be worth the wait and the nerves?
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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:18 AM
Ah,
But if the house is near the tracks, with a fenced back yard and porch to sit and watch trains from,
wouldnt it be worth the wait and the nerves?
Stay frosty,
Hope to have the chance to read more of your questions, they are anything but stupid!
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:52 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Ah,
But if the house is near the tracks, with a fenced back yard and porch to sit and watch trains from,

Ed


... and near a nice little family restaurant that serves a tasty dish of BISCUITS AND GRAVY.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 2:52 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard

Ah,
But if the house is near the tracks, with a fenced back yard and porch to sit and watch trains from,

Ed


... and near a nice little family restaurant that serves a tasty dish of BISCUITS AND GRAVY.
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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

OK, this does not warrant a thread of its own, so I'll just add it here...we're moving this weekend, and while I will probably be around a little over the next couple of days, I don't know exactly when we'll pack up the computer.

The whole moving thing is a big saga, but we are moving into an apartment for a couple weeks before moving into a house, and we're not going to bother to hook up internet access for just a few weeks. Might go to the library to check my email, but I might not even do that.

So if anyone responds to any of my posts over the next few days or weeks and I am not around, I'm not ignoring anyone, I'm probably just having a nervous breakdown in the middle of moving.

--Nora
Mookie thinks moving should be limited to just putting all your possessions in a small paper sack and setting it by the front door. It is right up there with house cleaning on a list of jobs not done happily!

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Posted by Mookie on Thursday, September 25, 2003 6:36 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Nora

OK, this does not warrant a thread of its own, so I'll just add it here...we're moving this weekend, and while I will probably be around a little over the next couple of days, I don't know exactly when we'll pack up the computer.

The whole moving thing is a big saga, but we are moving into an apartment for a couple weeks before moving into a house, and we're not going to bother to hook up internet access for just a few weeks. Might go to the library to check my email, but I might not even do that.

So if anyone responds to any of my posts over the next few days or weeks and I am not around, I'm not ignoring anyone, I'm probably just having a nervous breakdown in the middle of moving.

--Nora
Mookie thinks moving should be limited to just putting all your possessions in a small paper sack and setting it by the front door. It is right up there with house cleaning on a list of jobs not done happily!

She who has no signature! cinscocom-tmw

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:14 AM
happy moving! hope to see you back soon!a fenced in backyard and a view of the tracks? I'll pitch in for a web cam!
stay safe
Joe

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:14 AM
happy moving! hope to see you back soon!a fenced in backyard and a view of the tracks? I'll pitch in for a web cam!
stay safe
Joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:36 AM
Here's another question to which my online search has turned up nuthin.

I saw a Montana Rail Link freight car last weekend on a local spur. It looked like a Wood Chip car or or some type of high side gondola or hopper. It was spotted with its end to a platform and the end was hinged at the top with a bobcat loader, either loading or unloading it (I couldn't tell as I passed it). Any ideas. I hadn't seen this before.
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:36 AM
Here's another question to which my online search has turned up nuthin.

I saw a Montana Rail Link freight car last weekend on a local spur. It looked like a Wood Chip car or or some type of high side gondola or hopper. It was spotted with its end to a platform and the end was hinged at the top with a bobcat loader, either loading or unloading it (I couldn't tell as I passed it). Any ideas. I hadn't seen this before.
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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:35 PM
Wood chips. Apache & SW Forest Industries have them too...Future particle board material...
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by mudchicken on Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:35 PM
Wood chips. Apache & SW Forest Industries have them too...Future particle board material...
Mudchicken Nothing is worth taking the risk of losing a life over. Come home tonight in the same condition that you left home this morning in. Safety begins with ME.... cinscocom-west
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:12 PM
Thanks,

The wood chip cars I have seen in the past were unloaded by rotary, I think. I hadn't seen or at least noticed one like this before. Just unsual to me that the bobcat was in the car, entering at the end nonetheless. But now I know.
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Posted by dharmon on Thursday, September 25, 2003 1:12 PM
Thanks,

The wood chip cars I have seen in the past were unloaded by rotary, I think. I hadn't seen or at least noticed one like this before. Just unsual to me that the bobcat was in the car, entering at the end nonetheless. But now I know.
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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:07 PM
Happy moving = oxymoron

The only thing more stressful than moving is house remodeling.

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Posted by coalminer3 on Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:07 PM
Happy moving = oxymoron

The only thing more stressful than moving is house remodeling.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:32 PM
House remodelling is a good thing. It is an excuse, uh, i mean reason to buy more toys, uh, I mean tools to get the job done right.

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 25, 2003 3:32 PM
House remodelling is a good thing. It is an excuse, uh, i mean reason to buy more toys, uh, I mean tools to get the job done right.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by admiralh

House remodelling is a good thing. It is an excuse, uh, i mean reason to buy more toys, uh, I mean tools to get the job done right.

Admiral

my father-in law is very wise.He said a man can't have too many toys(tools).
stay safe [8D]
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Posted by JoeKoh on Thursday, September 25, 2003 7:13 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by admiralh

House remodelling is a good thing. It is an excuse, uh, i mean reason to buy more toys, uh, I mean tools to get the job done right.

Admiral

my father-in law is very wise.He said a man can't have too many toys(tools).
stay safe [8D]
joe

Deshler Ohio-crossroads of the B&O Matt eats your fries.YUM! Clinton st viaduct undefeated against too tall trucks!!!(voted to be called the "Clinton St. can opener").

 

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