QUOTE: Originally posted by RIRR80 Mook and CW, I'm a guy and was never into MP. More of a "Stooges" fan.
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QUOTE: Originally posted by locomutt QUOTE: Originally posted by RIRR80 Mook and CW, I'm a guy and was never into MP. More of a "Stooges" fan. I never cared much for Monty Python myself,could watch a little Benny Hill,once in awhile.(used to see it on PBS,but since we have Dish,we do get BBC America.) Now the "Three Stooges",that's an entirely different story.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Hugh Jampton QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie Ok - does anyone know of a female out there that actually enjoys or understands Monty Python? I fail to see the humor in them and the driver just thinks they are great! Is this truly the difference in the sexes (can I say that on the forum?) Moo Women who enjoy Monty Python are like female railfans,, few and far between. So finding one who likes both would be like finding the Holy Grail.
QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie Ok - does anyone know of a female out there that actually enjoys or understands Monty Python? I fail to see the humor in them and the driver just thinks they are great! Is this truly the difference in the sexes (can I say that on the forum?) Moo
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QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Originally posted by TheAntiGates Perhaps you should actually READ the book of Genesis and point this out to us, because as one with a Masters degree in theology I am certain that Genesis is completely silent on what may or may not be on other planets. Ron Well, *that* is exactly the point! Genesis is very clear about what he did create and what he didn't... And it doesn't say he created planets around the other stars, and it says he created life on earth.. All it mentions of an extraterrestrial nature is the stars, sun, and moon, supposedly set in the "firmament" of the heavens.. So while we are at it, just what is this "firmament of the heavens"? Is that the body that the sun is "stuck" to? rofl! This is what thay call and "argument from silence" which in any critical study, biblical or otherwise, is a fallicy. The fact that something is never mentioned proves only that it is not discusses and cannot be construed as "proof" that is does not exist. The same principle applies not only to biblical studies but to philosopgy, literature, law, etc. Therefore this argument holds no water. Ron Ahhh, so what you are saying is, that there is so much more to life than what is covered in the bible? That must be what the catholic priests tell the choir boys? First, that is not what I am saying AT ALL. What I am saying is that just because the Bible is silent on a subject does not necessarily mean that the subject does not exist. It doesn't mean it does either. It can only prove that it doesn't speak to it. The Bible never mentions dinosaurs either, and some say this proves they never existed. Most of us, however--even myself as a theological conservative--know this is rediculous. Of course they existed, and we have the fossil records to prove they existed. The fact that the Bible is silent here only proves that the Bible is silent, not that they did not exist. Second, I'm not Catholic, but I don't think that bit of "humor" would be appreciated by most, Catholic or otherwise. Ron Owner and superintendant of the N scale Texas Colorado & Western Railway, a protolanced representaion of the BNSF from Fort Worth, TX through Wichita Falls TX and into Colorado. Check out the TC&WRy on at https://www.facebook.com/TCWRy Check out my MRR How-To YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/RonsTrainsNThings Reply dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Friday, May 6, 2005 8:03 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard I'm a lumber jack, and I'm ok.... I sleep all night and I work all day.. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 6, 2005 8:13 PM He's a lumberjack and he's okay He sleeps all night and he works all day Reply Edit dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Friday, May 6, 2005 8:57 PM I cut down trees. I eat my lunch. I go to the lavatory. On Wednesdays I go shopping And have buttered scones for tea. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 6, 2005 8:59 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Second, I'm not Catholic, but I don't think that bit of "humor" would be appreciated by most, Catholic or otherwise. Ron Well, before you try to "guilt peddel" me any further, ...I was born a catholic, so I'll speak of them as I derned well please, remember..."freedom to express ones opinion" swings both ways. Fact of the matter is, there is contextual application there....As you say, the bible makes no mention of the subject, therefore gods opinion on that subject must be null. Where in the bible does it say priests may not covet their choirboys? I've never seen a specific mention, therefore god must not care one way or the other? Back to the original topic, the teachings of the bible are invariably passed off as the "ultimate word" of the omnipotent creator... Since he was telling us of his creative process, why would he selectively leave out such significant "chunks" of his handiwork? (the great reptiles and CORRECT planetary mechanics?) The reason why is because the bible is not the word of god at all, rather it is the best guess of primitive minds as to what creation MIGHT have been like, limited by their terresterial bounds. You can see the earthbound limitation of the perspective of "god" because the vagueness comes in right as the story delves off the face of the planet. If God was telling the story, why is it dependant upon an earthbound perspective? Since the officially recorded version bothers to mention the stars as part of the heavens, but makes no mention of the other planets we share our own solar system,.. what you actually have is an OMISSION! Any omnipotent who had actually created it all, would have not had to do so much guess work... wrong to boot. Why should it even matter to me? Well, all the others seem to be enjoying the spamfest, it would be a shame to give them closure. Reply Edit selector Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: Vancouver Island, BC 23,330 posts Posted by selector on Friday, May 6, 2005 9:24 PM Wink, wink, nudge, nudge,...sayy nawh mowahh!!!! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 6, 2005 11:34 PM Now for something different, completely... http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/toyoman/churchsigntrains.jpg Reply Edit dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Friday, May 6, 2005 11:36 PM Hah Hah Hah.......LOL..... I yield the floor to the Toyoman..... Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Friday, May 6, 2005 11:45 PM And if the OP ever comes back... http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/toyoman/churchsigntrains2.jpg Reply Edit dharmon Member sinceAugust 2003 From: Bottom Left Corner, USA 3,420 posts Posted by dharmon on Friday, May 6, 2005 11:53 PM [bow] Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 7, 2005 12:11 AM (in my best Jesse Jackson voice)... Deah Load- delivah this sinna from his malevolent and mose hommfull ways. May he tun to the truth an the laght of the bejevoty- and the benoficiaty of this boad. Deah Load- let this puson see the huma bejested herein! (in my best Elvis voice) Thank ya, thank ya vera much! Reply Edit selector Member sinceFebruary 2005 From: Vancouver Island, BC 23,330 posts Posted by selector on Saturday, May 7, 2005 12:19 AM Know whadda mean, know whadda mean? SAY NAWH MOWAHH!! Reply Dayliner Member sinceFebruary 2004 From: CN Seymour Industrial spur 262 posts Posted by Dayliner on Saturday, May 7, 2005 4:11 AM QUOTE: And if the OP ever comes back... http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/toyoman/churchsigntrains2.jpg ROFLMAO I have, shall we say, a professional interest in this whole religion thing. I am so impressed with the way you guys and gals have responded to what was almost certainly a troll. I am so proud to hang out with train folks! Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 7, 2005 11:27 AM (Curly) I Can't SEE! I Can't SEE! (Moe) WHATSAMATTER??!! (Curly) I got my eyes closed... LC Reply Edit n2mopac Member sinceFebruary 2001 From: El Dorado Springs, MO 1,519 posts Posted by n2mopac on Saturday, May 7, 2005 1:11 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Second, I'm not Catholic, but I don't think that bit of "humor" would be appreciated by most, Catholic or otherwise. Ron Well, before you try to "guilt peddel" me any further, ...I was born a catholic, so I'll speak of them as I derned well please, remember..."freedom to express ones opinion" swings both ways. Fact of the matter is, there is contextual application there....As you say, the bible makes no mention of the subject, therefore gods opinion on that subject must be null. Where in the bible does it say priests may not covet their choirboys? I've never seen a specific mention, therefore god must not care one way or the other? Back to the original topic, the teachings of the bible are invariably passed off as the "ultimate word" of the omnipotent creator... Since he was telling us of his creative process, why would he selectively leave out such significant "chunks" of his handiwork? (the great reptiles and CORRECT planetary mechanics?) The reason why is because the bible is not the word of god at all, rather it is the best guess of primitive minds as to what creation MIGHT have been like, limited by their terresterial bounds. You can see the earthbound limitation of the perspective of "god" because the vagueness comes in right as the story delves off the face of the planet. If God was telling the story, why is it dependant upon an earthbound perspective? Since the officially recorded version bothers to mention the stars as part of the heavens, but makes no mention of the other planets we share our own solar system,.. what you actually have is an OMISSION! Any omnipotent who had actually created it all, would have not had to do so much guess work... wrong to boot. Why should it even matter to me? Well, all the others seem to be enjoying the spamfest, it would be a shame to give them closure. The Bible is God's Word to mankind--that's us here on this planet. God is certainly under no obligation to explain Himself to us, but He did choose to reveal something about Himself and His character and work through the Bible. You seem to assume that if God were truly omnipotent He would have revealed everything to us about what He is like and what He does. Well, think for a moment what that means. Assuming God is the omnipotent creator of the universe--and I do--to reveal all of what He did and how He did it in detail would fill a volume of Scripture beyond any person't ability to even read it, let alone begin to comprehend it. God revealed to us what we needed to know to learn who He is, what He is like, and that we need to trust in Him. That said, this topic has gotten far beyond the scope of thei forum. Honestly, I can't believe Bergie hasn't shut it down already. As this seems to be digressing into an argument, this will be my last post on this thread. Have the last word here if you wish. I have made my views as clear as humanly possible. Blessings, Ron Owner and superintendant of the N scale Texas Colorado & Western Railway, a protolanced representaion of the BNSF from Fort Worth, TX through Wichita Falls TX and into Colorado. Check out the TC&WRy on at https://www.facebook.com/TCWRy Check out my MRR How-To YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/c/RonsTrainsNThings Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, May 7, 2005 1:39 PM QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac That said, this topic has gotten far beyond the scope of thei forum. Honestly, I can't believe Bergie hasn't shut it down already. As this seems to be digressing into an argument, this will be my last post on this thread. Have the last word here if you wish. I have made my views as clear as humanly possible. Blessings, Ron Ahhhh, the old "context" police comes into the equation now? You can't win the argument, so now it becomes one of "hey pal, this is a railroad forum, why don't you take that debate to a religion forum"....e'hhh? So predictable. But no Ron, having the last word, brewing ill will, and the sort is not my objective. There is no reason for me to try and make it "personal", for, there will be no clear cut winner or loser either way. You will continue to believe as you prefer to, reading the meaning you desire into the book of ultimate authority, just as I will. What I think was unnecessary here was your personal attack with the condescening "Try reading it" as though I was a child to be scolded. Reply Edit « First«3456789 Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. 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QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Originally posted by TheAntiGates Perhaps you should actually READ the book of Genesis and point this out to us, because as one with a Masters degree in theology I am certain that Genesis is completely silent on what may or may not be on other planets. Ron Well, *that* is exactly the point! Genesis is very clear about what he did create and what he didn't... And it doesn't say he created planets around the other stars, and it says he created life on earth.. All it mentions of an extraterrestrial nature is the stars, sun, and moon, supposedly set in the "firmament" of the heavens.. So while we are at it, just what is this "firmament of the heavens"? Is that the body that the sun is "stuck" to? rofl! This is what thay call and "argument from silence" which in any critical study, biblical or otherwise, is a fallicy. The fact that something is never mentioned proves only that it is not discusses and cannot be construed as "proof" that is does not exist. The same principle applies not only to biblical studies but to philosopgy, literature, law, etc. Therefore this argument holds no water. Ron Ahhh, so what you are saying is, that there is so much more to life than what is covered in the bible? That must be what the catholic priests tell the choir boys?
QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Originally posted by TheAntiGates Perhaps you should actually READ the book of Genesis and point this out to us, because as one with a Masters degree in theology I am certain that Genesis is completely silent on what may or may not be on other planets. Ron Well, *that* is exactly the point! Genesis is very clear about what he did create and what he didn't... And it doesn't say he created planets around the other stars, and it says he created life on earth.. All it mentions of an extraterrestrial nature is the stars, sun, and moon, supposedly set in the "firmament" of the heavens.. So while we are at it, just what is this "firmament of the heavens"? Is that the body that the sun is "stuck" to? rofl! This is what thay call and "argument from silence" which in any critical study, biblical or otherwise, is a fallicy. The fact that something is never mentioned proves only that it is not discusses and cannot be construed as "proof" that is does not exist. The same principle applies not only to biblical studies but to philosopgy, literature, law, etc. Therefore this argument holds no water. Ron
QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Originally posted by TheAntiGates Perhaps you should actually READ the book of Genesis and point this out to us, because as one with a Masters degree in theology I am certain that Genesis is completely silent on what may or may not be on other planets. Ron Well, *that* is exactly the point! Genesis is very clear about what he did create and what he didn't... And it doesn't say he created planets around the other stars, and it says he created life on earth.. All it mentions of an extraterrestrial nature is the stars, sun, and moon, supposedly set in the "firmament" of the heavens.. So while we are at it, just what is this "firmament of the heavens"? Is that the body that the sun is "stuck" to? rofl!
Originally posted by TheAntiGates Perhaps you should actually READ the book of Genesis and point this out to us, because as one with a Masters degree in theology I am certain that Genesis is completely silent on what may or may not be on other planets. Ron
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Check out the TC&WRy on at https://www.facebook.com/TCWRy
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QUOTE: Originally posted by edblysard I'm a lumber jack, and I'm ok....
QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Second, I'm not Catholic, but I don't think that bit of "humor" would be appreciated by most, Catholic or otherwise. Ron
QUOTE: And if the OP ever comes back... http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/toyoman/churchsigntrains2.jpg
QUOTE: Originally posted by TheAntiGates QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac Second, I'm not Catholic, but I don't think that bit of "humor" would be appreciated by most, Catholic or otherwise. Ron Well, before you try to "guilt peddel" me any further, ...I was born a catholic, so I'll speak of them as I derned well please, remember..."freedom to express ones opinion" swings both ways. Fact of the matter is, there is contextual application there....As you say, the bible makes no mention of the subject, therefore gods opinion on that subject must be null. Where in the bible does it say priests may not covet their choirboys? I've never seen a specific mention, therefore god must not care one way or the other? Back to the original topic, the teachings of the bible are invariably passed off as the "ultimate word" of the omnipotent creator... Since he was telling us of his creative process, why would he selectively leave out such significant "chunks" of his handiwork? (the great reptiles and CORRECT planetary mechanics?) The reason why is because the bible is not the word of god at all, rather it is the best guess of primitive minds as to what creation MIGHT have been like, limited by their terresterial bounds. You can see the earthbound limitation of the perspective of "god" because the vagueness comes in right as the story delves off the face of the planet. If God was telling the story, why is it dependant upon an earthbound perspective? Since the officially recorded version bothers to mention the stars as part of the heavens, but makes no mention of the other planets we share our own solar system,.. what you actually have is an OMISSION! Any omnipotent who had actually created it all, would have not had to do so much guess work... wrong to boot. Why should it even matter to me? Well, all the others seem to be enjoying the spamfest, it would be a shame to give them closure.
QUOTE: Originally posted by n2mopac That said, this topic has gotten far beyond the scope of thei forum. Honestly, I can't believe Bergie hasn't shut it down already. As this seems to be digressing into an argument, this will be my last post on this thread. Have the last word here if you wish. I have made my views as clear as humanly possible. Blessings, Ron
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