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Train crash in Hoboken NJ
Posted by rluke on Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:27 AM

I just saw on 'Breaking News' that a transit train has crashed into a platform at the Hoboken NJ platform.  Anyone have any details?

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:30 AM
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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:47 AM

Didn't take long to cross the Atlantic

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37503920

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 8:51 AM

NJ.com has already updated with some video. From the look of it the train ran off the end of the track. Also part of the train shed collapsed. I also saw what I think is building marble in the pictures.

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:08 AM

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:09 AM

One of the reports I saw said this was a Pascack Valley train. 

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Posted by overall on Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:16 AM

NPR is reporting on it right now. Witnesses say there are 100 injuries or more. The train was going at track speed, it did not slow down, as you would expect a train to do coming into a station.  

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:23 AM

One person has died.

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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:26 AM

Three confirmed dead, so far.   No PTC. Track #5 in Hoboken Station.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:28 AM

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Major-Train-Accident-in-Hoboken-Injuries-Reported-395249051.html

 

 

WNBC New York is reporting 3 deaths.

 WNBC New York corrected their story, they are now saying 1 death.

Train was #1614 originating at Spring Valley.

I will speculate that the train may have gone into the ticket office.

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 9:55 AM

narig01

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Major-Train-Accident-in-Hoboken-Injuries-Reported-395249051.html

 

 

WNBC New York is reporting 3 deaths.

 

Train was #1614 originating at Spring Valley.

I will speculate that the train may have gone into the ticket office.

 

 Also

WNBC New York also interviewed a William Blaine, a locomotive engineer with Norfolk Southern who was at the scene of the wreck.(Mr Blaine' s description may indicate the Engineer may have been incapacitated going into this)

WNBC also has on air Bill Vantuono of Railway Age.

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Posted by rdamon on Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:39 AM

Not a good day for NJT

http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2016/09/person_struck_and_killed_by_train_at_newark_penn_s.html

NEWARK — A person was struck and killed by an Amtrak train at Newark Penn Station Thursday morning, according to an official. 

Northeast Regional train 190 hit the "trespasser" around 6:20 a.m. on track 2, an Amtrak spokesman said.

No one aboard the Amtrak train was hurt. The passengers were transferred to a New York-bound NJ Transit train.

The spokesman didn't know the age or gender of the person killed.

 

 

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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:53 AM

Was watching Fox News at my local bodega. The Fox News bimbo was talking to a rail safety "expert" and nither one had any idea how a train works. "Like why did not the conducter stop the train?". "Who drives the train?". I wanted to throw my breakfast sandwich at the TV.

Now i later learn that FOX is broadcast outta New York City so YOU WOULD THINK that some of the anchors take the commuter train once in a while.

" Most programs are broadcast from Fox News headquarters in New York City (at 1211 Avenue of the Americas), in its streetside studio on Sixth Avenue in the west wing of Rockefeller Center, sharing its headquarters with sister channel Fox Business Network. Fox News Channel has seven studios at its New York City headquarters that are used for its and Fox Business' programming:"

 

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Posted by Chiefs14 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 11:04 AM

Prayer and thoughts with those injured in the Hoboken crash. Also the person who died and their family.

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:12 PM
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Posted by CandOforprogress2 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:30 PM

narig01

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Major-Train-Accident-in-Hoboken-Injuries-Reported-395249051.html

 

 

WNBC New York is reporting 3 deaths.

 

Train was #1614 originating at Spring Valley.

I will speculate that the train may have gone into the ticket office.

 

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Posted by Ulrich on Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:43 PM

Any news on the crew? 

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Posted by lionelsoni on Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:47 PM

The engineer is said to have survived.

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Posted by Buslist on Thursday, September 29, 2016 12:59 PM

schlimm

   No PTC. 

 

 

Surprised?

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Posted by wanswheel on Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:26 PM

Andrew Cuomo: “It could be personal to the conductor.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa61Q8j6Cxk&t=20m47s

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:27 PM

08/09/2011

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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:49 PM

Buslist

 

 
schlimm

   No PTC. 

 

 

 

 

 

Surprised?

 

No.  But I'll bet victims and their families are angry about the delays in implementation, especially on commuter and passenger lines.

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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, September 29, 2016 1:50 PM

lionelsoni

The engineer is said to have survived.

 

In critical condition.

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Posted by Buslist on Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:04 PM

schlimm

 

 
Buslist

 

 
schlimm

   No PTC. 

 

 

 

 

 

Surprised?

 

 

 

No.  But I'll bet victims and their families are angry about the delays in implementation, especially on commuter and passenger lines.

 

If only they had the $! Cut trains or spend the $ on PTC? Which would the public prefer? 

Commuter operations are generally short of cash. Look at the current news in your own backyard. Only now is METRA considering PTC for the ex MLW lines. Almost 2 years after the deadline. As we used to try to teach young engineers, in spite of the "no question should go unasked" think it through before asking it.

Which would you prefer?

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Posted by narig01 on Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:17 PM

narig01

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Major-Train-Accident-in-Hoboken-Injuries-Reported-395249051.html

 

 

WNBC New York is reporting 3 deaths.

 WNBC New York corrected their story, they are now saying 1 death.

Train was #1614 originating at Spring Valley.

I will speculate that the train may have gone into the ticket office.

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:33 PM

PTC - you don't go down to the signal supply store today and buy a PTC system and install it tomorrow on all the field signals and operating equipment and get all the required employees trained in it's operation.

I have no idea how far along NJT is in their PTC efforts, however, I suspect they have not been totally sitting on their thumbs.  I suspect the same politicians that are now criticizing them for not having PTC installed and operational are the same politicians that have defeated funding bills that would have advanced the installation and operation of PTC on NJT.

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Posted by Euclid on Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:46 PM

 

It is up to Congress to shut down operations not having PTC or to let them run without it.  They are in the driver’s seat. 

 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/09/29/hoboken-crash-pelosi-rips-congress-for-delaying-ptc-deadline.html

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, September 29, 2016 2:49 PM

Euclid
It is up to Congress to shut down operations not having PTC or to let them run without it.  They are in the driver’s seat. 

http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/09/29/hoboken-crash-pelosi-rips-congress-for-delaying-ptc-deadline.html

It isn't 12/31/2018 - YET!

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, September 29, 2016 3:00 PM

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