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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 1:57 AM

Convicted one, I wasn't asking just for me, but for everyone else's educamation as well. Won't you think of the children?

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 1:59 AM

from the indecent thread http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252512.aspx?page=2

Murphy Siding

 

 

 

 

gardendance

 

 

 

M636C

Let's just not use apostrophes in thread titles until the forum software can cope with it...

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's just tough to remember not to use proper punctuation, especially when it looks fine when composing, and the bad effect only manifests after submitting the post, and then it's too late to fix it. I don't know how to change a title after the thread's created.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Edit button, lower right hand corner of your post will do the trick.

 

 

 

 

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 That's it?  We have these vastly interesting postings going on and that's all you can add?  Sigh

Murphy, don't let Mookie upset you so much that you go away. I'm grateful that you gave me such short neck high forehead advice. It's always humbling to learn such a simple solution that I should have figured out myself.

I'm not so grateful that I want to increase your thread's reply count. The whose thread's more popular race is still on.

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:00 AM

gardendance
I'm grateful that you gave me such short neck high forehead advice. It's always humbling to learn such a simple solution that I should have figured out myself.

If it's that simple, why is it that as of 11:00 Central this morning you still haven't fixed it?

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:17 AM

What's sad is that threads like this will go on for weeks, while many discussions on railroad subjects die an untimely death...

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:29 AM

Wizlish

 

 
gardendance
I'm grateful that you gave me such short neck high forehead advice. It's always humbling to learn such a simple solution that I should have figured out myself.

 

If it's that simple, why is it that as of 11:00 Central this morning you still haven't fixed it?

 

it looks fixed on my screen and looked fixed around 9am eastern time, "decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"

tree68

What's sad is that threads like this will go on for weeks, while many discussions on railroad subjects die an untimely death...

 

What do you consider an untimely death? The only thing I can think is untimely is if someone asks a question and gets no answer. On the other hand if someone makes a statement that shouldn't in itself require a response. For example, if a post says "I think Amtrak is the best national passenger railway system the US has" I see nothing wrong with that being the last post in the thread.

If you feel a thread has met an untimely death, what stops you from adding another post to it?

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:38 AM

ChessieCat123

I know what the problem is- A certain person and persons had a personality conflict with me off forum at train club that I was part of and is obssesed with getting back at me even though I have not been active at that club for a # of years but continues to bad mouth me at other railroad clubs even to the point of writing letters and making harrasing phone calls to my job and college. "Its like the you will never work on Broadway again"-- Well this staulker wants to make sure that I never get involved with orgonized railfanning again. I know who he is and am considering legal options.

Ray, I'm sure your problem goes far beyond any single off forum personality conflict. I also met you and I had several personality conflicts even before I met, through our emails and phone calls, and several more the day we met.

I've had posts in this thread asking why I defend you. I don't think I defend you, I think I've criticized you, but at the same time have questioned why other people have tried to claim that you drive forum users away. You've certainly driven me away from ever wanting to meet you or communicate off forum again, but you in no way influence my desire to stay in this forum.

I would have defended your right to post what you wanted, up till when you got your login suspended. I do not defend you having recreated several other logins to resurrect yourself after the administrators suspended you. But your taking advantage of this loophole also does not rise to such an irritation level that it influences my desire to stay in this forum.

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:15 PM

gardendance
it looks fixed on my screen and looked fixed around 9am eastern time, "decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"

It's the other one, the 'indecent' one, that's uncorrected.  In fact, as I write this, it still shows the deflicted code.  i'd have PMed you if I had thought about it first.

 

... "decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"

Posthaste  Zip it!

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:20 PM

the indecent thread is not mine, I'm not in charge of its title.

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Posted by Wizlish on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 12:42 PM

gardendance
the indecent thread is not mine, I'm not in charge of its title.

Lo and behold! so it ain't.  PM sent appropriately.  Sorry.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 1:40 PM

   I seem to remember that in the last year or two there were some complaints that the moderators were too quick to lock or delete threads that had uncivil or off-topic content.    Be careful what you wish for.

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Posted by gardendance on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:09 PM

I wished for a unicorn that poops ice cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlEovr29KBU only to find out it was a Squatty Potty commercial.

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 9:18 PM

gardendance

I wished for a unicorn that poops ice cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlEovr29KBU only to find out it was a Squatty Potty commercial.

 

Squatty Potty was on Shark Tank just a few days ago.....

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Wednesday, December 9, 2015 11:01 PM

With God as my witness I thought turkeys could fly.

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Posted by gardendance on Thursday, December 10, 2015 7:19 AM

Would you be comfortable contemplating Squatty Body Marvin on a regular potty?

This is not the first time I've mentioned it in a railroad related forum, but decades ago I shared a swimming pool with Hugh Jenkins, a Reading-Conrail-Septa engineer. I was both repelled and enthralled by the canvas upon which they were presented and the many railroad tatoos he had.

Somehow I got over my repulsion, and just as the indecent posts don't stop me from participating in trains.com, the many endangered marine mammals I still see at public swimming areas do not prevent me from going swimming.

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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, December 10, 2015 7:41 AM

So now we have yet another of the so-called "humor" threads?  This is worse than the Eleanor one started by the late Murray.

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Posted by gardendance on Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:40 AM

Now that I've discovered how to change my thread's title I can't stop. Gentle readers, in case you can't keep track, it was

"decent posters, will another poster's posts drive you away?"

someone asked if we could remove the apostrophe, since trains.com displays apostrophes as &something when in the title, someone nicely mentioned how to do it, I changed it to

"decent posters, will the posts of another poster drive you away?"

and the thank you we got was that we had fixed the apostrophe catastrophe. I don't care who you are, that's funny, and makes both of these threads worth the electrons they waste.

Now since my only purpose is to keep Schlimm happy, I've edited the title so it definitely warns folks that this is so called humor.

Thank you too for mentioning Murray. I was trying to remember who that was, and kept thinking of Murphy Siding. If I remember correctly the last we saw of Murray was 

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/247216.aspx Amtrak Wreck in Philadelphia

Which I remember Murray started, which now has all his posts listed as 'anonymous'. We have no way to tell if Murray asked the moderators to remove his name, or if they did it for their own reasons. Or do we? Does anybody know the real scoop? Murray certainly made enough farewells that I can believe he might be a poster who got driven away.

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Posted by gardendance on Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:44 AM

Euclid
 
gardendance

 

 
Euclid

 

Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave.

 

 

 
 
Those hairs do split clearly if you think about it.  There is no difference between your two examples of explanations for leaving the forum, yet neither one amounts to be “driven off” the forum.  The poster in your example decided by his/her own free will to leave the forum no matter what he/she cites as the reason.   
 
If you have the power to stay, you cannot be driven off.
 

That's like saying if someone's house is on fire since they have the power to stay inside and die the fire can't drive them off. As I reread the Amtrak Wreck in Philadelphia thread I see a few posts I made where I said I'm not required to say if I'm going to leave, it's my choice. Just because I feel I can make the choice, and I feel nobody else can force me, doesn't mean that I expect everybody else to feel the same way. There may be others who get driven away, and it's not my place to say if their feelings aren't valid.

Euclid, as I reread your quoted post I realize I forgot to accuse you of expressing opinion as fact.

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Posted by BigJim on Thursday, December 10, 2015 8:11 PM

ACY
True story: When I was about 12 years old, the N&W was still operating steam locomotives. My friends and I were building a model railroad. As we worked, someone brought up the N&W and called it the North Fork & Western. He was living a rather sheltered life and had never heard of Norfolk, Virginia. I corrected him, and I was promptly told that there was no such place as Norfolk, that Norfolk was a stupid and meaningless name, and I was absolutely wrong. To prove his point, he called for a vote. Nobody else in the group had heard of Norfolk either, so Norfolk was voted down and the N&W became the North Fork & Western.

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, December 11, 2015 10:51 PM

Most of us indicated we could ignore the subject of this thread.  However, he has taken to posting on almost every current thread making that increasingly difficult.   How much longer does this have to go on?   He's destroying whatever enjoyment was left of these forums on his way to oblivion.

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Posted by gardendance on Saturday, December 12, 2015 5:20 AM

I assume you mean ChessieCat123. I don't read every thread, but of the threads I do read, for example this one he's posted 5 times, and in its evil twin the indecent thread he hasn't posted at all. I think you're exaggerating when you say "he has taken to posting on almost every current thread" Please give some examples.

Also are you trying to say that he'll drive you away?

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Posted by gardendance on Saturday, December 12, 2015 6:12 AM

2 things are evident:

 I spend too much time on the internet. This time I could have spent better watching the insides of my eyelids.

 Schlimm, you are DEFINITELY exaggerating when you say ChessieCat123 posts on almost every current thread.

I looked at the last 5 pages of EVERY thread on general discussion's 1st page, and found only 1 thread that ChessieCat123 didn't originate in which he made any post.

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/130415.aspx?page=2 Who names control points? 
1 post, which I don't consider out of line "Which came first the control point name or the town name?" 
 
these other threads have none of ChessieCat123's posts in their most recent 5 pages

http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/231186.aspx?page=38 Semi-official Rochelle webcam discussion thread
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252603.aspx What would it take?
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/214329.aspx?page=12 Perris Valley Line Updates (w/ Photos)
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252646.aspx Precision Scheduled Railroading
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/251689.aspx?page=5 Canadian Pacific Norfolk Southern Merger
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/250453.aspx?page=6 Chatterbox Fall 2015
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252575.aspx NS rejects CP bid
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252610.aspx NCDOT and UNC Charlotte Announce Rail Workforce Assessment Study
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252573.aspx China Lands Major Kenya Rail Contract
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252588.aspx ? again....
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/102777.aspx?page=16 Cajon Pass Triple-Tracking Updates (Plus Barstow-Daggett)
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/p/252399/2820236.aspx#2820236 Former GM Sound Expert Editorial on the VW Debacle
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252222.aspx Thoughts on eliminating the Chicago bottleneck
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252228.aspx Could have free-enterprise freight railroads survived without dieselization?
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/148958.aspx?page=14 The new and (not very) improved humor thread
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/248019.aspx Hyperloop
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252554.aspx Boston -- New York NEC Questions
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252496.aspx NS rail lines to become scrap and real estate holdings if CP takes over.
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/68570.aspx Litchfield and Madison Railway
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/205973.aspx?page=6#2819582 On This Day in Railroad History
 I only checked the last page on this one, since prior pages' posts were long before 
http://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/252552.aspx Diamonds Under The Lights

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Posted by gardendance on Saturday, December 12, 2015 6:20 AM

See what happens when you try to post when you're sleepy? I should have just clicked his profile. Other than the aforementioned innoffensive "Who names control points" post,  http://cs.trains.com/members/chessiecat123/default.aspx says the most recent time he posted IN SOMEONE ELSE'S THREAD was 6 days ago.

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Posted by schlimm on Saturday, December 12, 2015 7:33 AM

Your posts are much akin to his.

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Posted by gardendance on Saturday, December 12, 2015 8:25 AM

Why Schlimm, that's the nicest thing anyone's said about me for ages. It almost helps to keep from driving me away.

Seriously though, where are ANY examples to support your contention that ChessieCat123 "has taken to posting on almost every current thread"?

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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:03 AM

gardendance
could you please let us know if you're on the verge of getting driven away?

I considered leaving once, but I realized that would be giving some guys a break who don't deserve one, so I stayed - just for them.Super Angry

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Posted by Euclid on Saturday, December 12, 2015 9:59 AM
gardendance
 
Euclid
 
gardendance

 

 
Euclid

 

Nobody is ever driven off of a forum by other members. It is impossible. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stay or leave.

 

 

 
 
Those hairs do split clearly if you think about it.  There is no difference between your two examples of explanations for leaving the forum, yet neither one amounts to be “driven off” the forum.  The poster in your example decided by his/her own free will to leave the forum no matter what he/she cites as the reason.   
 
If you have the power to stay, you cannot be driven off.
 

 

 

That's like saying if someone's house is on fire since they have the power to stay inside and die the fire can't drive them off. As I reread the Amtrak Wreck in Philadelphia thread I see a few posts I made where I said I'm not required to say if I'm going to leave, it's my choice. Just because I feel I can make the choice, and I feel nobody else can force me, doesn't mean that I expect everybody else to feel the same way. There may be others who get driven away, and it's not my place to say if their feelings aren't valid.

Euclid, as I reread your quoted post I realize I forgot to accuse you of expressing opinion as fact.

 

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I have to agree that there is no absolute way of looking at this matter of being driven off.  On one hand, “driven off” implies something outside of the driven doing the driving.  But any person is equally capable of driving themselves off if they create the perception of an external driver in their own mind.  Ultimately, that is the way reality works anyway.
But if person “A” leaves because they decide to believe they are being driven off by person “B”, did person B really drive them off, or did person “A” simply drive off on their own and blame it on person “B”?  
Therefore, when I say you can’t be driven off if you have the power to stay, that is true unless you don’t believe that you have the power to stay.         
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Posted by Convicted One on Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:09 AM

Don't forget, if one person in particular posts things not to your liking, you can always  brand them as a "troll"  hopefully convincing yourself you are superior to them.

If MULTIPLE people post things not to your liking, you can always declare "sock puppet" and not feel quite so outnumbered.

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Posted by zugmann on Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:23 AM

But I am superior to you.  I still love ya, though. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by gardendance on Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:35 AM

Is sock puppet an insult? Whenever I hear it I think of some cute fluffy cuddly thing I want to hug.

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Posted by Norm48327 on Saturday, December 12, 2015 11:48 AM

Euclid
I have to agree that there is no absolute way of looking at this matter of being driven off. On one hand, “driven off” implies something outside of the driven doing the driving. But any person is equally capable of driving themselves off if they create the perception of an external driver in their own mind. Ultimately, that is the way reality works anyway. But if person “A” leaves because they decide to believe they are being driven off by person “B”, did person B really drive them off, or did person “A” simply drive off on their own and blame it on person “B”? Therefore, when I say you can’t be driven off if you have the power to stay, that is true unless you don’t believe that you have the power to stay.

Circular logic carried to it's highest form of perfection. Sigh

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