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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:13 AM

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Great idea!  You can also use the idots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  

The parents you talk about are complete idots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idots don't create more idots that are worse.

   Why stop there?  Why not just round up all those that you find are undesirable and send them off to the concentrations camps?  That may not be what you're trying to say, but that's certainly along the same lines.  It appears that everyone in your world is an idiot except you.  I'm not saying you're an idiot to think the way you do- that's your right.  I'm just wondering what your parents are like-nice folks, I presume.

I think Kyle has shown us the pathetic and dangerous conclusion of so-called, Darwinism: death to so-called idiots.   It's about time that term is banned from the forum.   It is offensive as well as stupid.

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Posted by edblysard on Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:10 AM

Why stop with just one word, why not ban all the words you find offensive and stupid.

Now that you mention it, why stop with words, how about banning people you find offensive and stupid?

A couple of groups did both before, back in the 1930s and 40s..

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:44 PM

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Kyle

Great idea!  You can also use the idots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  

The parents you talk about are complete idots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idots don't create more idots that are worse.

   Why stop there?  Why not just round up all those that you find are undesirable and send them off to the concentrations camps?  That may not be what you're trying to say, but that's certainly along the same lines.  It appears that everyone in your world is an idiot except you.  I'm not saying you're an idiot to think the way you do- that's your right.  I'm just wondering what your parents are like-nice folks, I presume.

I think Kyle has shown us the pathetic and dangerous conclusion of so-called, Darwinism: death to so-called idiots.   It's about time that term is banned from the forum.   It is offensive as well as stupid.

Well, politics is not to be discussed and there are at least 535 individuals in DC that fit the terms you find offensive...idiots and stupidity generally run hand in hand in pursuit of Darwinism.

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Posted by schlimm on Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:48 PM

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Kyle

Great idea!  You can also use the idots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  

The parents you talk about are complete idots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idots don't create more idots that are worse.

   Why stop there?  Why not just round up all those that you find are undesirable and send them off to the concentrations camps?  That may not be what you're trying to say, but that's certainly along the same lines.  It appears that everyone in your world is an idiot except you.  I'm not saying you're an idiot to think the way you do- that's your right.  I'm just wondering what your parents are like-nice folks, I presume.

I think Kyle has shown us the pathetic and dangerous conclusion of so-called, Darwinism: death to so-called idiots.   It's about time that term is banned from the forum.   It is offensive as well as stupid.

Well, politics is not to be discussed and there are at least 535 individuals in DC that fit the terms you find offensive...idiots and stupidity generally run hand in hand in pursuit of Darwinism.

Obviously, but why bring it up then?

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, May 22, 2014 4:49 PM

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Kyle

Great idea!  You can also use the idots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  

The parents you talk about are complete idots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idots don't create more idots that are worse.

   Why stop there?  Why not just round up all those that you find are undesirable and send them off to the concentrations camps?  That may not be what you're trying to say, but that's certainly along the same lines.  It appears that everyone in your world is an idiot except you.  I'm not saying you're an idiot to think the way you do- that's your right.  I'm just wondering what your parents are like-nice folks, I presume.

I think Kyle has shown us the pathetic and dangerous conclusion of so-called, Darwinism: death to so-called idiots.   It's about time that term is banned from the forum.   It is offensive as well as stupid.

Well, politics is not to be discussed and there are at least 535 individuals in DC that fit the terms you find offensive...idiots and stupidity generally run hand in hand in pursuit of Darwinism.

Obviously, but why bring it up then?

Who is discussing politics - they are all stupid idiots - that isn't political as I am not taking sides.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:57 PM

I'm glad someone had the kids back. The 4014 is a remarkable machine, I hope that it is never marred by tragedy.

 

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Posted by Kyle on Friday, May 23, 2014 5:19 AM

Murphy Siding

Kyle

Great idea!  You can also use the idiots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idiots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  

The parents you talk about are complete idiots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idiots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idiots don't create more idiots that are worse.

   Why stop there?  Why not just round up all those that you find are undesirable and send them off to the concentrations camps?  That may not be what you're trying to say, but that's certainly along the same lines.  It appears that everyone in your world is an idiot except you.  I'm not saying you're an idiot to think the way you do- that's your right.  I'm just wondering what your parents are like-nice folks, I presume.

Deliberate killing of people is in most cases wrong (few exceptions).  I think there are many people in the world who have common sense.  The problem is the few idiots that do stupid things and cloud the view of all the people with common sense.  Now, letting someone kill themselves because they are stupid and have no common sense is perfectly fine, it is how nature works.  The idiots don't realize that a train can kill them as easily as swatting a fly.  

Do I also need to help them cross the street so they don't get hit by a car?  How about we just build fences around streets as well. These ideas are stupid, but they are exactly like UP having to block people.

These people are just like drunk drivers, people walking on the edge of a huge cliff, speeding and weaving through traffic, druggies. They all are stupid.

One thing my parents have taught me is that as a pedestrian, you have the rightofway, but you shouldn't expect a driver to stop.  Always be alert, just because someone should do something, don't expect them to.  Apply this logic to all of life and you will be fairly fine.

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Posted by Kyle on Friday, May 23, 2014 5:42 AM

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I'm not too sure if anyone else agrees but it appears to me that Kyle places a low value on human life other than his own.

A human over the age of 12, who has enough common sense to avoid stupid accidents like this almost was, and children's lives are very important and have a high value.

However the idiots that just drag down society with their stupidity just become extra problems we have to deal with.  They require food, water, and other resources.  They then create some more problems which cause the population to rise.  In return they give everyone a pain, and some we have to give money to them so they can live reasonably.  Eventually the population will get to large for the earth to sustain, and until then, prices for reasources and land will rise as demand goes up, and there is only so much.  

If a human is idiotic enough to kill themself, why should we stop them.

The way nature works is that anything created that isn't satisfactory is to have the problem fix itself through Darwinism.  Nature has its own QC test, fail, and the organism dies at a young age.   It creates a better population as the fittest survive to have offspring.  It's natures way of keeping everything in balance.

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Posted by Kyle on Friday, May 23, 2014 6:11 AM

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Before civilization existed, Darwin's principles were the only thing governing the evolution of plants, animals, people, and indeed the planet itself. Many say God guided evolution, but I'm not a theologian. Once Darwin's principles had brought us to a certain stage, we humans, along with many of our animal fellow travelers, developed the idea that we ought to protect our young. Then we started to think it would be a good idea to look out for each other and VOILA, civilization was born. That was progress. I know we get exasperated by people who show their ignorance and put themselves and others in danger. I cringe every time our train hits a vehicle, pedestrian, bicycle (yes, it happened once), or has a close call. But it seems to me that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to intentionally let somebody die just because he was preoccupied, inattentive, ignorant, uneducated, or in the wrong place at the wrong time. Civilization is too valuable a prize to throw it away just because we see something that doesn't make sense to us. The kid needs to be educated --- not executed.

Young have always been taught by their parents.  Darwinism ensured that the young were getting taught well because only the fittest survived to becom parents.  Civilization was formed and Darwinism continued to improve the population.  Then in our "modern" world, some stupid people thought that we should try to protect idiots.  The way that was achieved was by the government meddling around, and then holding companies responsible even though the companies did nothing wrong, and it was only the stupidity of the idiot.  Now those idiots have lived and had children, but because they are stupid tht are horrible at teaching the children on how to have common sense and survive, they actually teach their kids how to be stupid, and almost die.  Now, all these idiots, and even stupider idiots are dragging down society.  We have lost privileges to idiots.

In Hawaii, there are now places that are fenced off or off limits because idiots did something stupid that got them hurt, and then tried to sue. Beautiful waterfalls and sights no longer legally seen.

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Posted by Randy Stahl on Friday, May 23, 2014 6:13 AM

The loss of stupid females would force me to be celibate. The more stupid females there are the better my odds. I don't like the alternative.

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Posted by Kyle on Friday, May 23, 2014 6:22 AM

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schlimm

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Kyle

Great idea!  You can also use the idiots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idiots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  

The parents you talk about are complete idiots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idiots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idiots don't create more idiots that are worse.

   Why stop there?  Why not just round up all those that you find are undesirable and send them off to the concentrations camps?  That may not be what you're trying to say, but that's certainly along the same lines.  It appears that everyone in your world is an idiot except you.  I'm not saying you're an idiot to think the way you do- that's your right.  I'm just wondering what your parents are like-nice folks, I presume.

I think Kyle has shown us the pathetic and dangerous conclusion of so-called, Darwinism: death to so-called idiots.   It's about time that term is banned from the forum.   It is offensive as well as stupid.

Well, politics is not to be discussed and there are at least 535 individuals in DC that fit the terms you find offensive...idiots and stupidity generally run hand in hand in pursuit of Darwinism.

Obviously, but why bring it up then?

Who is discussing politics - they are all stupid idiots - that isn't political as I am not taking sides.

I agree with the last comment.  They also act like preschoolers sometimes, can't compromise, as a result, we the people suffer.

If everything offensive was banned then wouldn't the government be banned, and the human race, and the planet, and probably the universe?  That would be a bad idea.  Think about it, religion alone would have the human race banned, as some  people from every religion would find people of other religions offensive.

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, May 23, 2014 6:35 AM

Kyle:  "Great idea!  You can also use the idiots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idiots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  The parents you talk about are complete idiots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idiots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idiots don't create more idiots that are worse."

Herr Obersturmbahnfuehrer Kyle:   We fought a war to stop the sort of policies you and your ilk promote.  And BTW, it isn't anything to do with Darwin.  It is social darwinism, but a "person" such as yourself wouldn't know about that.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, May 23, 2014 7:41 AM

     Using Kyle's logic, if Kyle gets hit by an asteroid, he's an idioot for getting hit by an asteroid, and his parents, by extension, are idioots for having a child who would get hit by an asteroid.  Maybe we should determine which children not born yet will be idioots getting hit by asteroids, and mandate that their future parents forgo parenthood.

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Posted by schlimm on Friday, May 23, 2014 7:50 AM

Murphy Siding

     Using Kyle's logic, if Kyle gets hit by an asteroid, he's an idioot for getting hit by an asteroid, and his parents, by extension, are idioots for having a child who would get hit by an asteroid.  Maybe we should determine which children not born yet will be idioots getting hit by asteroids, and mandate that their future parents forgo parenthood.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Friday, May 23, 2014 8:01 AM
The horse has been dead for quite a while now, so I think I'll naturally select myself out of this tedious conversation. But it's gratifying to see that the "word" IDOT has finally gone away.
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Posted by Kyle on Friday, May 23, 2014 4:30 PM

schlimm

Murphy Siding

     Using Kyle's logic, if Kyle gets hit by an asteroid, he's an idioot for getting hit by an asteroid, and his parents, by extension, are idioots for having a child who would get hit by an asteroid.  Maybe we should determine which children not born yet will be idioots getting hit by asteroids, and mandate that their future parents forgo parenthood.

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It is not your fault for getting hit by an asteroid because you really can't take any reasonable safety measure to prevent it from happening.  

Now, the idiot standing on active tracks can easily stand 10 ft away.  It is also predictable on exactly were the train will travel (unlike an asteroid).  You are clearly stupid if you are standing on the active tracks, a train will come.

Sometimes good parents have idiots for kids, but it isn't their fault.  However when idiotic parents have kids, the kids are taught how to be idiots.

God, nature, or whatever you believe in (trying not to throw religion into the mix) made Darwinism work this way so the population will be strong & smart.  It works to make a better civilization/society.  

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Posted by Kyle on Friday, May 23, 2014 4:59 PM

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Kyle:  "Great idea!  You can also use the idiots that didn't follow the safety rules and got hit as an example of how deadly a train is.  There will still be the idiots who don't listen and break the safety rules, but they will deserve to get hit.  The parents you talk about are complete idiots.  They shouldn't have kids, they are teaching the kids to be even stupider idiots.  That is why I believe we should let Darwinism go to work, so the idiots don't create more idiots that are worse."

Herr Obersturmbahnfuehrer Kyle:   We fought a war to stop the sort of policies you and your ilk promote.  And BTW, it isn't anything to do with Darwin.  It is social darwinism, but a "person" such as yourself wouldn't know about that.

The policies you talk about are nothing like I proposed.  Hilter gathered up people he thought was inferior and murdered them in cold blood.

I have proposed removing laws that protect the idiots by making other people liable for the idiots actions.  We should also stop having to put up warning on obvious things, ex: coffee is hot.  There will still be some warning signs, electrocution hazard, man-of-wars, high surf, unstable ground, etc.  Everyone continues to live on as they use to, only we let the idiots do what they want.  If the idiots want to go stand on the tracks, have fun, don't complain when you get hit. If they want to stand in the extreme edge of a cliff, good luck, don't complain when you slip and fall.

Darwinism basically states that the fittest live and the weak die.  This causes a fit society, and can lead to helpful adaptations.  Fit usually is thought as being physically strong, however, it also can mean being mentally fit. If you are physically and mentally strong, then you are fit.  If you are physically and mentally weak , then you fall into the weak category of Darwinism.  

When I say smart for this, I mean have common sense. It doesn't matter how "smart" you are in school.  As long as you have good instinct to live. Idiots are defined as having no common sense and being stupid enough to put themselves in danger and don't really realize it, or take reasonable steps to minimize the danger.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Friday, May 23, 2014 6:54 PM
You don't have kids do you?

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Posted by schlimm on Saturday, May 24, 2014 12:08 AM

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You don't have kids do you?

Judging by his language and lack of depth of thought or knowledge, Kyle is a kid, or at best a young adult who hasn't grown up.

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Posted by Boyd on Saturday, May 24, 2014 2:40 AM

Add a directional fire hose to the front and blast the idiots with a hose. That will wake them up.

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Posted by Deggesty on Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:02 AM

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You don't have kids do you?

Judging by his language and lack of depth of thought or knowledge, Kyle is a kid, or at best a young adult who hasn't grown up.

I was considering suggesting that we leave him to wallow in his apparent dislike for people who do not have as much intelligence as he has.

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Posted by edblysard on Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:27 PM

But then he would be all alone and……Ohhhhhhh, I get it!

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Posted by GDRMCo on Sunday, May 25, 2014 12:52 AM

Deggesty

Along with all the other discussion, we should give thanks to and for the person who lifted the videographer (possibly autistic?) out of harms way.

Yeah because all autistic people are idiots who aren't aware of the world around them. Totally.

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Posted by schlimm on Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:53 AM

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Yeah because all autistic people are idiots who aren't aware of the world around them. Totally.

I hope you are being sarcastic because that is a very ignorant statement.

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Posted by GDRMCo on Sunday, May 25, 2014 3:21 AM

Rather clear sarcasm, I have autism (towards the high functioning end of the spectrum) and I do take offense when people blatantly paint one group of people with the same brush.

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Posted by Kyle on Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:37 AM

Boyd

Add a directional fire hose to the front and blast the idiots with a hose. That will wake them up.

This could work, and in other countries, riot police uses dyes to find offenders later.  They also use rubber bullets.  Could outfit a few locomotives with gear to get trespassers within ten feet of the track.  Any who don't learn their lesson and get hit, deserve it.  Would save the hassle of getting the idiots family to clean up the body. Maybe you could use the water cannon for that.

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Posted by cacole on Sunday, May 25, 2014 9:25 AM

When you realize how many locomotives would have to be equipped with any of these deterrent devices you people are dreaming up, the cost would be staggering.

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Posted by Semper Vaporo on Sunday, May 25, 2014 1:10 PM

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When you realize how many locomotives would have to be equipped with any of these deterrent devices you people are dreaming up, the cost would be staggering.

 
Yeah, but think how much fun the Engineer and Conductor could have!  Laugh

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Posted by Kyle on Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:35 PM

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When you realize how many locomotives would have to be equipped with any of these deterrent devices you people are dreaming up, the cost would be staggering.

 
Yeah, but think how much fun the Engineer and Conductor could have!  Laugh

It would only be installed on a few.  Mostly, only the locomotives that really attract idiots.  Plus a few ordinary locomotives.  Between rubber bullets and water cannons, only the completely stupid idiots would get hit.  Might save a few not as stupid idiots.

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Posted by GDRMCo on Sunday, May 25, 2014 7:44 PM

Kyle

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cacole

When you realize how many locomotives would have to be equipped with any of these deterrent devices you people are dreaming up, the cost would be staggering.

 
Yeah, but think how much fun the Engineer and Conductor could have!  Laugh

It would only be installed on a few.  Mostly, only the locomotives that really attract idiots.  Plus a few ordinary locomotives.  Between rubber bullets and water cannons, only the completely stupid idiots would get hit.  Might save a few not as stupid idiots.

You do realise that every single thing you've suggested will never happen right? You live in a country where guns are accessible to everyone, what's going to happen when someone cops a rubber bullet to the head? Litigation will abound so maybe instead of proposing crackpot theories show your true intelligence (unless this is all a front) and come up with something a bit less out there. Or, alternatively, just stop trying to be Darwinism Incarnate.

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