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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:43 AM

One summer about twenty years ago, I was driving with the windows down when I heard an airplane engine. It was a totally different from anything I had heard before. I parked and looked up to find a P51 in a Lazy dogfight with a P47! This went on for ten or more minutes before they drifted out of sight to the south.

On a related note, when my father went to see his sister in Columbia, we would pass right by Shaw AFB at Sumter. I can vividly recall seeing 15 or more P51s parked on the flight line at one time. Those 4 bladed props really stood out. 

 

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, June 29, 2008 6:50 AM

.....Not much of anything in aircraft prettier than a restored P-51 {tail dragger}, all shined with it's silver surfaces and yes, as you say Paul, the massive 4-blade prop pointed upwards as it is waiting to "do it's thing....".  I've taken some really nice pic's of several here as they were on display at a gathering at our Muncie airport.  They are sleek and it's not difficult to see that they were rather fast for their day.....

But must include the Corsair....{beautiful in my eyes}....and fast for their day too.  Leroy Berkebile {of airlines fame from a hi jacking over Indiana years ago}, was from our little town and went to school with my brother....buzzed our Esso Station right after WWII with one and what a thrill.....He was a Carrier pilot in that war.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:22 AM

Here is the menu for our SUNDAY DINNER today:

1.  Grilled boneless, skinless chicken breasts

2.  Lasagna w/garlic or Italian bread, garden salad, roasted red potato wedges

3.  Pork chops, rib eye steaks, burgers, hot dogs and brats also fixed on the grill

Other side dishes for today:  baked beans, cole slaw, potato salad, macaroni salad, corn on the cob

DESSERTS FOR TODAY:  chocolate cake, carrot cake, strawberry cheesecake, and blueberry muffins leftover from breakfast

You all have a very pleasant afternoon, and be safe out there.

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Posted by Willy2 on Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:23 PM

Well, back from vacation. I'm a little miffed about missing the big storm that hit Omaha on Friday. The NWS has determined that maximum wind gusts were as high as 110 mph to 115 mph, all due to straight-line winds, no tornado. Here are two links, for anyone who is interested:

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=oax&storyid=16339&source=0

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=oax&storyid=16345&source=0

However, the weather in Branson was interesting as well. On our first night, it stormed pretty bad. There was a ton of hail and wind. Then, the entire vacation featured sunny skies and highs in the upper 80s. On our last night, it stormed again and continued to storm into the morning that we left. Branson measured between 6 and 7 inches of rain and on our way out, we heard on the radio that the Lake Taneycomo waterfront was beginning to flood in downtown. We also encountered some flooded roads on our way out, but made it home safely.

Following with tradition from past vacations, we took a ride on the Branson Scenic Railroad. This railroad runs on Missouri and Northern Arkansas trackage. For the first time ever, we actually got to see one of M&NA's freight trains in Branson. We usually only see Union Pacific trackage rights coal trains on that trackage.

We went to many of the shows on Highway 76, including The Baldknobbers, The Presleys, Jim Stafford, and our favorite, Pierce Arrow. Has anyone else been there and seen any of those shows? They are excellent.

I have never really cared for taking pictures and I'm afraid to say that I didn't snap a single photograph on the entire vacation. So, I don't have any photos, but there are lots of good memories to hold onto until the next time we visit.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Sunday, June 29, 2008 1:59 PM
Has anyone heard from Mookie? According to the news, a sizeable area in and around Omaha got clobbered last night and the power may be out for days.....

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Posted by Mookie on Sunday, June 29, 2008 2:49 PM

I hear she is lurking.  In nap mode lately. 

Willy - glad you are back.  Everything has been hitting around Omaha  and Iowa, just 50+ miles south and a snitch west, we are just getting spit on.  We didn't even get the high winds.  And that's ok.  I will leave the weather to entertain Willy. 

Back to the nap..... 

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Posted by locomutt on Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:40 PM

Larry, Very Nice Air Show Pictures!!

Over the last several years, we've been lucky enough to see some of those planes fly around

here in the annual "Thunder Over Louisville Air Show". 

The B-17s are,cool (got to stick my head in the "Memphis Belle" several years ago)

The P-51s have got to be one of the best still flying, although I wish they'd get a

P-38 back in flying condition. 

 

Willy, glad you all did have a good vacation...Memories are always nice to have. 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:49 PM

Evening

we had some pop up showers come and go today.saw the thomas rice special(csx 5107) go eastbound with an empty coke train.willy glad you are back home.CW thanks for supper.

stay safe

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:15 PM

Good afternoon. How are the rest of you out there doing?

I just got home from work, and right now we have a temperature of 81 degrees and the humidity here is sitting at 33%, not a bad day here in South Dakota. We had high, gale force winds here yesterday afternoon and just a trace of rain. Roughly 360 customers of ExCel Energy were without power yesterday afternoon when the winds had taken out a power line somewhere here in Sioux Falls.

At about 3:30 or thereabouts this afternoon I was stopped by a police officer while walking home from work, and I was only two blocks from home. He asked me who I am, and he told me that I matched the physical description of someone he was looking for. I was able to show him my state of South Dakota issued I.D. card which confirmed for him that I am NOT the individual he was looking for. I happen to like police officers, and I am a 2005 graduate of "Citizen's Police Acadamy", a course that our local police department offers the general public twice a year. This guy was only doing his job, but still it set me a little off balance as I was not expecting to be stopped by a police officer for any reason.

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Posted by tree68 on Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:27 PM

Day two of the airshow went off without a hitch, although an approaching line of storms helped clear the grounds as soon as the show was over.

Mutt - I could swear there was a P38 at an airshow I attended at Langley AFB a few years ago.

The C47 got off the ground today, but never did a turn over the airfield that showed a top view to the crowd.  The B-17 had a mechanical problem which prevented its flyovers, but I stuck around to watch it take off after the show closed.  What a beauty!

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Posted by locomutt on Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:24 PM

There well may be a P-38 still flying, but they are very few and far between.

There was one that a guy from Ky. help dig out of the ice somewhere, restored it,

was going to fly it around for air shows, but I'm not sure that that has actually

happened.  (History Channel (?) from several years ago.) 

 

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:49 PM

.....There aren't very many B-17's flying either Walt.....Do you have any idea how many...?

We've had 17's in here several times in the past for various "shows"... but not sure if they were different ones.  Have had some really old double wingers, etc....here as well.  And of course WWII fighters of various kinds.

Have had one Liberator...{B-24}, fly in here.....That's the only one I've ever seen fly.

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:41 PM

There were two P38s at an air show this year. Another forum I visit had pix of a P39, Several P40s, a P47 and about a dozen Mustangs. All except the Airacobra were flying. I can't remember which forum it was, but if I can find it, I will post a link. BTW, it was extravagant with warbirds, even had an F86 Sabre....

Mookie, I was afeared for ye, and am gratified to know you are OK.

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Posted by Modelcar on Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:53 PM

....Trivia:

Believe if I was to relate the most awesome plane I've seen taking off it would have to be a C5-A Galaxy....Just amazed how short of run it made to get into the air....{At Ft. Wayne, In.}.

And the most unusual sound from a plane flying overhead:  B-36

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:11 PM

A flying B36!! Recently? Outa sight

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Posted by switch7frg on Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:19 PM
 tree68; Was that B17 the Sentementle Journey ?? If so she flew from Mesa Ariz. Falcon Field.  In her earlier times , was a borate bomber for Avation Spectialties.    Cannonball

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Posted by switch7frg on Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:24 PM
 Quentin ; You are right bout  B36 aluminum overcast , ~~~ with 6 turnin' & 4 burnin' a real dish rattler in the cupboard . Cannonball

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Posted by switch7frg on Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:44 PM

  Walt;  For the past 2 wks. Shirley & I have beenlaid up with numonia ( don't know how to spell yet)  Amoxin & codene cough supressant to help breathing with out pain in lungs.  How ever Shirley is on Oxygen now.  But our problems are small as to flooding in the midwest and now the southwest is aflame  Crown King is evacuated  cause some flatlander got lost.  Sohe set a ( signal fire )  smart mooove . Crown King is west of Sunset Point rest area off I-17  The fire is 15mi. from us here on the ridge line. Calif. has 840 fires going. All the full story is on You Tube.

                                 Smile, Life is good.  Cannonball

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Posted by spokyone on Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:16 PM
 Willy2 wrote:

 For the first time ever, we actually got to see one of M&NA's freight trains in Branson. We usually only see Union Pacific trackage rights coal trains on that trackage.

We went to many of the shows on Highway 76, including The Baldknobbers, The Presleys, Jim Stafford, and our favorite, Pierce Arrow. Has anyone else been there and seen any of those shows? They are excellent.

Willy: You picked the best shows to attend. We have been to Branson a few times & seen most of the shows.  Barbara & I like The Sons of the Pioneers. We have never seen a freight train through there.
  Did you attend Silver Dollar City? It's a long day for us older folk. The built it on the side of a steep hill. LOL The bluegrass bands are great entertainment though.

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, June 30, 2008 6:31 AM

....Cannonball:

Sorry you and Shirley are fighting "numonia".....Our best to you both for a quick trip back to wellness.

....Tom:

Oh, no....not recently....!  I really can't put a date on it but I'll throw out a guess.  I'd say around 1958 would be about the last to see and hear them.  They used to fly over our area in Pennsylvania occasionally.  One could hear them coming, etc....An unusual different kind of resonating rumble.  {Cannonball, you sure described them}.

If I remember correctly, the one at Wright Patterson, Dayton, OH...flew into that location from out west...{Colorado...?}, back in 1959.  I have looked it over and that was a thrill.

Muncie temp now:  63   Overcast.  Some brightness in the eastern sky.  Maybe some rain this morning, but to start to clear then.  Don't know whether to open windows or not......To be nice next few days and mod temp......But humidity...??

Edit:

Windows now open....A brisk partly sunny day now....Next 3 days are to be rather nice.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, June 30, 2008 6:32 AM

morning

its monday.here is some juice and coffee.time for me to get some cereal and head for bed.been a rough night at work.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by cherokee woman on Monday, June 30, 2008 8:47 AM

Sorry about getting in here so late:  but from 6 to 9 a.m., all we got was the message that Trains.com had a problem, or no longer existed.  Almost a typical Monday morning, trying to get in the front door.

Cannonball, so very sorry about you and Shirl having pneumonia.  We'll be praying that you two are soon on the path to recovery and being well again!

Joe, thanks for getting breakfast this morning.  With this cooler weather, hopefully, you'll get a good sleep in this morning.

 

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, June 30, 2008 8:54 AM

....CW:

I had trouble earlier this morning with our TRAINS web site too.....And I've experienced that same trouble in the past.  It seems the site is "down" for a short period and not up and running properly and won't operate normally.  I managed to write a response to several posts earlier and then thought it did not go.  Now, just returning to see if it was up and running, I find my post did download and post.   So It's something that does happen occasionally, but seems to clear up in time.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, June 30, 2008 8:56 AM

 switch7frg wrote:
 tree68; Was that B17 the Sentementle Journey ??

She's the "Yankee Lady" out of Willow Run Airport, Ypsilanti, MI.

Never flew in combat - almost went directly from the factory to the boneyard.  USCG took her over and used her for search and rescue.  Not sure that the aircraft in the link is this particular fortress.

As I mentioned earlier, she appeared in this configuration in the movie "The High and the Mighty."  In a later life, she appeared in the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora," shortly after which she was acquired by the current owners.

 

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Posted by Willy2 on Monday, June 30, 2008 9:38 AM
 spokyone wrote:
 Willy2 wrote:

 For the first time ever, we actually got to see one of M&NA's freight trains in Branson. We usually only see Union Pacific trackage rights coal trains on that trackage.

We went to many of the shows on Highway 76, including The Baldknobbers, The Presleys, Jim Stafford, and our favorite, Pierce Arrow. Has anyone else been there and seen any of those shows? They are excellent.

Willy: You picked the best shows to attend. We have been to Branson a few times & seen most of the shows.  Barbara & I like The Sons of the Pioneers. We have never seen a freight train through there.
  Did you attend Silver Dollar City? It's a long day for us older folk. The built it on the side of a steep hill. LOL The bluegrass bands are great entertainment though.

We usually ride the Branson Scenic on either the 9:00 AM or 11:30 AM runs. It seems that the best chance of seeing a freight train is either just before the 9:00 AM run, or between the 9:00 and 11:30 runs. I have never seen one during the afternoon or evening.

We attended Silver Dollar City a few years ago and enjoyed it a lot. However, as my parents get up there in years, they are finding it more difficult to do stuff like that, so we usually just stay in Branson now.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Monday, June 30, 2008 11:39 AM

Hey there, everybody!  Sure is a beautiful day here:  currently about 72 degrees, going for a high of 79.  We had a little shower earlier this morning, around 10:15, I think it was.  Didn't last too long, though.  Very cool, so I thought for lunch and supper we'll have:

1.  Beef stew w/cornbread

2.  Roast beef w/onion, carrots & potatoes w/green beans, creamed corn, cole slaw and cornbread

And, we've got all the regular items on the dessert bar.  

Hope you all have a great afternoon, and I'll be lurking around here somewhere, doing all the normal things you have to do in a cafe/diner.

P.S.  Mookie, and Mutt, where are your aprons?  Have looked all over for them, so I can wash them, and they seem to have disappeared!!

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Posted by grampaw pettibone on Monday, June 30, 2008 12:00 PM

Hello all. A bit late but here I am. At present, 87 in Carolina, headed for 90+ and more thunderstorms. CW, I didn't know you were a lurker. I thought that was Mookie's job. These days, multitasking confuses things. I will pass on lunch, the jaw is still paining me a right smart, but is better. Everybody stay safe, and beware of the lurkers in our midst.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Monday, June 30, 2008 3:34 PM

afternoon

got the outside chores done.matt is talking about how many things we can "buy" at the hobby shop.My parents taught me and he is the right age now if you want it you EARN it. Tom Cannonball and shirl hope you get feeling better soon.Cw thanks for supper.

stay safe

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Posted by Mookie on Monday, June 30, 2008 4:28 PM

CW - give up - Mutt hided them where you will never find them!  Evil [}:)]  I told him we could get out of work if we didn't have aprons! 

Brian is our general lurker - wonder where he went for so long?

Joe - will you check into buying me a hobby?  Something really, really interesting!

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Posted by CANADIANPACIFIC2816 on Monday, June 30, 2008 4:28 PM

Beef stew and corn bread for dinner tonight sounds pretty good to me, CW. I'll be stopping in at the Flat Wheel Cafe shortly.

I just got home from work, and on my way home from work I stopped in at my neighborhood Sunshine grocery store and I spoke with the store's manager, Darin Hull. I told him that I am looking for additional work beyond the limited hours that I am getting working for Wendy's and that I had filed an employment application with Sunshine within the last 30 days. He told me that he has my application on file in his office but that he has not yet taken the time to look it over. Mr. Hull asked me what kind of hours I am working for Wendy's and I told him that basically I am working from 11:30 AM to roughly 2:30 in the afternoons. He told me that he would look my application over and thus eventually be able to offer me something in terms of employment. So it is looking a bit hopeful here.

I stopped in at one of our local HY-VEE supermarkets last Wednesday and told the gal behind the courtesy counter that I had submitted an application with them within the last few weeks and that I was still interested in possibly working for HY-VEE. I was asked to leave my name and phone number and that "Susan" would be calling me back after she got back from her lunch break. Well, she never did call me back, and that is a bit frustrating, so I think another trip to this store tomorrow would be in order.

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