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Posted by diningcar on Thursday, April 3, 2008 12:19 AM

Yes Q, Lewis Kingman was a renouned Santa Fe locating engineer. He also has the town of Kingman, KS named for him. It was on a SF predecessor, The Wichita and Western.

Ray Morley was the locating engineer who, disguised as a sheep herder, observed the Denver & Rio Grande engineers surveying Raton Pass and subsequently was involved along with SF Chief Engineer A. A. Robinson in beating the Rio Grande construction crew to claim the Pass. Morley was also instramental in Santa Fe getting control of the Royal Gorge west from Pueblo. But SF eventually lost that one in litigation.

Robinson, Morley and Kingman along with several others (like Henry Holbrook and Dick Colman) are famous in the history of Santa Fe's location that is now known as the TRANSCON and have towns or stations named for them.

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 10:33 PM

....Jack:

Would the Lewis Kingman, you mention, be a fellow Kingman, Az. might have been named after......?

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Posted by diningcar on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:29 PM

Muddy One,

There is a place in Santa Rosa, NM that has been in the same family since WW II. It is on the Hwy. toward Vaughn; you know, that famous SF crew change point. Well that was before you youngsters came along with your sophisticated surveying instruments and high rail vehicles. Try it for Mexican if you are nearby.

Oh for Chains, transits, plumb bobs and wye levels that came just after the dinosaurs were exterminated by we tough surveyors who were issued side arms and rifles. Well maybe that was Ray Morley and Lewis Kingman instead of yours truly.

In La Junta I still go to El Azteca on west 3rd. Pete Saminego always knew some good places but he was probably retired when you arrived. But I bet you heard some 'Pete' stories. And I can tell you about the Brown Hotel in Springer or the Ark Valley Hotel in Syracuse which was where Les Phillips liked to stay. Anyway you young softies will never have the motor car stories and the less than desireable places where we found a meal, so enjoy the 'good life'

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Posted by mudchicken on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:38 PM
 diningcar wrote:

CW, I love Mexican food but have a difficult time finding "authentic' in AZ. Too many sissys have demanded that it be mild. I like mine smothered in Green chili sauce. I even have a bottle of Tabasco green pepper sauce which is added to many dishes on my table, but my friends whence every time I take the lid off.

I shall enjoy your selection, and I hope you and our other Railroaders won't mind if I bring the Tabasco along to 'sweeten' it a little.

Jack

Hope that AZ Mexican Food has red or green salsa instead of the unidentified brown ooze so often seen in KanzassBig Smile [:D].....Oh, how I miss El Camino in La Junta, Pablo's in Pueblo, El Rialto in Las Vegas NM, Sanitary Tortilla Factory in Old Town Albuquerque or Maria's Kitchen in Santa Fe. (better be ready to sharpen the cactus needles, drain the moat and starve the alligators down there in about two weeks.) - They leave the seeds in for you too, Si?

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Posted by Mookie on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:33 PM
 tree68 wrote:
One of the items requested during development of the military "Meals, Ready to Eat" (MREs) was Tabasco sauce.  The problem is, it doesn't store well in mustard and ketchup-type packets.  So each MRE (at least those where it's appropriate) contains a tiny glass bottle of Tabasco sauce.  Cute little things!
  Tree - the Driver got one at a food service meeting and it is sitting on top of my office fridge.  You are right - it is cute - and very green!

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 4:04 PM

Cw

thanks for supper.picked up matt from school and saw a few csx trains.q152 had 4 up engines and a long stack train.hope everyone got to be outside somewhere in the sun today.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 3:21 PM
One of the items requested during development of the military "Meals, Ready to Eat" (MREs) was Tabasco sauce.  The problem is, it doesn't store well in mustard and ketchup-type packets.  So each MRE (at least those where it's appropriate) contains a tiny glass bottle of Tabasco sauce.  Cute little things!

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 1:15 PM
 diningcar wrote:

CW, I love Mexican food but have a difficult time finding "authentic' in AZ. Too many sissys have demanded that it be mild. I like mine smothered in Green chili sauce. I even have a bottle of Tabasco green pepper sauce which is added to many dishes on my table, but my friends whence every time I take the lid off.

I shall enjoy your selection, and I hope you and our other Railroaders won't mind if I bring the Tabasco along to 'sweeten' it a little.

Jack

Jack, no problem!  That's why I put out bottles of hot sauce, and anything listed as HOT, so those who like more hot spicyness(sp?) to their plates, can add it! 

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Posted by diningcar on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 11:56 AM

CW, I love Mexican food but have a difficult time finding "authentic' in AZ. Too many sissys have demanded that it be mild. I like mine smothered in Green chili sauce. I even have a bottle of Tabasco green pepper sauce which is added to many dishes on my table, but my friends whence every time I take the lid off.

I shall enjoy your selection, and I hope you and our other Railroaders won't mind if I bring the Tabasco along to 'sweeten' it a little.

Jack

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 11:34 AM
 cherokee woman wrote:

And we all survived April Fools just fine.  (Although, I think Sarah managed to get Walt with an April Fools around 9 last night!)

No fair! In Canada we call a cease fire at noon, before things get out of hand.
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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 11:23 AM

I've got lunch ready now.   Going to make today Mexican Fiesta DayOn today's menu:

1.  Tacos
2.  Beef & bean burritos
3.  Beef burritos enchilada style
4.  Tamales (both mild and hot)
5.  Quesadillas
6.  Spanish rice

There is also some southwest versions of all the above mentioned items. 

Also, the desserts for today:  chocolate cake, cherry cheesecake, and the following cobblers:  apple, blueberry, cherry, peach.

Dale, the robins have been waking me up about 5 a.m., about 20 minutes before the alarm goes off!  And we all survived April Fools just fine.  (Although, I think Sarah managed to get Walt with an April Fools around 9 last night!)

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:59 AM

.....Cannonball:

In years past, I remember flying into Vegas {as we did all the time to get to our test work down in Kingman}, I knew where to look and on the Vegas approach, I could look south east from the plane and see Humphreys Peak standing tall way over by Flagstaff....

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Posted by nanaimo73 on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 9:35 AM

Good morning. I'm not sure spring is a good thing, our robins now start singing at 5:30.

Hope everyone survived April Fools with their health and dignity intact.

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Posted by JoeKoh on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 6:55 AM

morning

cool but sunny here in nw ohio.we'll take it.matt is off to school.the teacher sent us some information that they want to do a field trip to the zoo.after a nap going to be outside putting the stones(from the driveway) back where they belong.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by cherokee woman on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 5:14 AM

Good Wednesday morning, everyone!  Looks like we had kind of a busy night in here last night.  Good for business!

Coffee, juices and hot water for tea are ready.  On the breakfast/warmer bar this morning:  turkey bacon, sausage, hash browns, scrambled eggs, french toast and pancakes.  

You all have a good morning!

 

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Posted by switch7frg on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 10:01 PM
CNW 6000 , really cool puter emocon  , push button --sock it to me. CB.

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Posted by switch7frg on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 9:50 PM

  10-4 Quentin, till maybe May or June. One can see the peak quite well from the hill toward Prescott Valley  from Prescott.

                                Cannonball

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Posted by blhanel on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:11 PM
 eolafan wrote:

This morning I am in "mook country"...Omaha, NE having come into town yesterday for a day and a half of sales calls with my sales rep.  I saw quite a bit of UP action yesterday even though my rep is not at all "into trains".  It is in the low thirties here and about ten degrees warmer back home in Aurora, IL where I will lay my head tonight.

Make sure you wave on your way past CR!

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Posted by locomutt on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 5:44 PM

It's 48 here now, after starting the day off close to 60. Rain seemingly has moved out,

but the winds are staying around..according to the TV weather, we've had gusts around

25-30. (don't Think we have Any advisories in place now)

 

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 5:32 PM

43 here, but windy (with a wind advisory, no less).  My weather station logged 20+ just before I left work - it was a fun drive home.

No foolin' here - just hid in my office and stayed out of trouble...

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 4:00 PM

brrr rainy windy and cold today.hope no one got fooled today.Cw thanks for supper.back to the chores.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by Modelcar on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 2:32 PM

.....That must mean Humphreys Peak has the white stuff too....

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Posted by diningcar on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 12:28 PM

I'm eating some of all of your offerings because I am no APRIL FOOL. Nor any other kind of fool when someone prepares this fine feast.

Snow in AZ today!!! It is on top of the San Francisco Peaks near Flagstaff; and it has been there for a while, not new fallen snow.

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Posted by cherokee woman on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 12:04 PM

Sorry gang, I'm not cooking today.  You're on your own! 

 

APRIL FOOLS!!!!   Ooooohhh, I'm being nasty today, aren't I?  I shouldn't be that way, but gee, you just have to have a little bit of the devil in you sometimes.  

 

For Bob and Nance's anniversary, our meals today will be:  ROAST BEEF, MASHED TATERS & GRAVY, GREEN BEANS, CORN, AND COLE SLAW, ALONG WITH CORN BREAD.

DESSERT:  chocolate/white sheet cake w/chocolate icing, decorated for our anniversary couple.  

Lefty trucks, please pardon my lack of manners  yesterday, in welcoming you to the Flat Wheel Cafe.  We're all usually much better than that.  And for anyone who has been absent for awhile, and comes back, PLEASE know that you are welcome , and were missed!  So. . . Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Sign - Welcome [#welcome] Sign - Welcome [#welcome]

 

 

 

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Posted by Modelcar on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 9:24 AM

....Yes, Jen....You most likely will get into the whole bit now.....We got into it back in 1995 and sold all the furniture out of the 3rd bedroom {wasn't being used anyway}, and it turned into a home office.  Of course that meant purchasing the "stuff" required  to create this space we have now.

It is a nice space one can go to away from the family room or whatever and with it's communication tools, kinda fun....

In my case, a good space to include many of my model die-cast cars.  And of course this room had to have stereo too.....and on it goes.....

Join the gang and enjoy.

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Posted by tree68 on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 7:47 AM

 locomutt wrote:
Nice RS-3 out there Larry, just fuel tonight, or need the oil checked also?

Fuel only today.  She's just off winter break/maintenance, so all the fluids should be fine.  Smile [:)]

The usual.  Out of bed a bit early for a "smoke in the basement" call in a neighboring fire district.  Turned out to be a malfunctioning furnace, but at least it's supposed to be a semi-warm day.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 7:38 AM
 Modelcar wrote:

......How did you {Jen}, resist having "one of these things" at home so long......?

Nobody can resist the powah of the Dark Side!

Way to go Mook.  If you need a hand, er paw, with anything I'll try to help.  Just don't let the computer get the best of ya!

CW I'll take a plate of what's hot and then I'll skedaddle!    I've got lots to do today.  I will try to pop back in later. 

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Posted by JoeKoh on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:47 AM

congrats mookie!!! now I can tell you where you can get a nice desk at.windy and falling tempratures today but tommorow is suppossed to be sunny and 50?has spring finally sprung?? also had word about the baldwin locomotive in indiana.got a party interested in keeping it at their place.stay tuned.Cw thanks for breakfast.

stay safe

joe

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Posted by eolafan on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:35 AM
 Mookie wrote:
 Modelcar wrote:

......How did you {Jen}, resist having "one of these things" at home so long......?

Since I had the whole thing here at work, it wasn't too much of a strain.  We had a dumb puter and did a few games on it and that was about all there was time for.  But with a hard winter behind us and so much time off over Xmas - I nearly went nuts.  So I finally relented. 

Now I need to renovate the room, buy some new furniture and buy an up-to-date puter.  This web-surfing is expensive!  Shock [:O]

Yep, see what happens when you take that "first step"...late last year my better half was in our living room (which nobody ever sees) and suddenly decides we need new living room furniture even though the old stuff has been sat upon maybe ten times in twenty years...so off we go to the furniture store (naturally they just happened to be having a sale) and came away having ordered a new couch and chair!  Now Mook, your 'puter will have the same effect on your room.

This morning I am in "mook country"...Omaha, NE having come into town yesterday for a day and a half of sales calls with my sales rep.  I saw quite a bit of UP action yesterday even though my rep is not at all "into trains".  It is in the low thirties here and about ten degrees warmer back home in Aurora, IL where I will lay my head tonight.

Wishing a simply wonderful day to you all!

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Posted by Mookie on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:22 AM
 Modelcar wrote:

......How did you {Jen}, resist having "one of these things" at home so long......?

Since I had the whole thing here at work, it wasn't too much of a strain.  We had a dumb puter and did a few games on it and that was about all there was time for.  But with a hard winter behind us and so much time off over Xmas - I nearly went nuts.  So I finally relented. 

Now I need to renovate the room, buy some new furniture and buy an up-to-date puter.  This web-surfing is expensive!  Shock [:O]

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