KCSfan wrote: Not a Louisiana RR and not The Port St. Joe which I believe was a nickname for the Appalachicola Northern. It did run in an area where pine firewood was in abundance but definitely was a common carrier not a logging or sawmill road and at one time had passenger service. To the best of my knowledge there was not ever a papermill on line that it served. It's been a fallen flag for 40+ years now.Mark
Not a Louisiana RR and not The Port St. Joe which I believe was a nickname for the Appalachicola Northern. It did run in an area where pine firewood was in abundance but definitely was a common carrier not a logging or sawmill road and at one time had passenger service. To the best of my knowledge there was not ever a papermill on line that it served. It's been a fallen flag for 40+ years now.
Mark
The Norfolk Southern? Not the NS + Sou. merger of 1987, but the old Norfolk Southern??
In the southeast, not in GA, not a Class one...
Oh, boy.
Wood is expensive to prepare and handle, so it would have to be a road that where wood and wood processing was readily available. Also, would have to be light duty since that stuffs a pain to load.
Gotta be some shortline serving a paper mill. Port St. Joe? They even around in that era?
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Not the Tweetsie Al and the RR was standard gauge.
KCSfan wrote: rrnut, Murphy, J. Edgar, Oltamannd and Al,Sorry for not replying to you sooner but I've been on the lake fishing all day and just got back home and on to the computer.It was not a Class I RR so that rules out the answers so far. To the best of my knowledge the road was not in bankruptcy but I can't say that as a certainty. It was in the deep south but did not operate in the state of Georgia.Mark
rrnut, Murphy, J. Edgar, Oltamannd and Al,
Sorry for not replying to you sooner but I've been on the lake fishing all day and just got back home and on to the computer.
It was not a Class I RR so that rules out the answers so far. To the best of my knowledge the road was not in bankruptcy but I can't say that as a certainty. It was in the deep south but did not operate in the state of Georgia.
East Tennessee & Western North Carolina?
You didn't say the line had to be standard gauge.
Some RR company in bankruptcy and stuck with obsolete engines after everyone else had switched to coal??
al
KCSfan wrote: OK here's the next question. What was the last US railroad to run wood burning locomotives in common carrier (not logging or industrial) service?Mark
OK here's the next question. What was the last US railroad to run wood burning locomotives in common carrier (not logging or industrial) service?
not pickin nits......class 1,2, or 3???.......my guess would be L&N...but if you consider the smaller lines.....geesh who would know for obsolute sure??!??...the Poohville & Hogwartz coulda run a wood burner in WW2 for all i know....lol
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
Someplace a long way from a coal mine and close to the woods like Bangor and Aroostook?
My luck it would be something like C&O that brought out the wood-burner after 30 years on the dead line for one day.
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OOPS. I meant to say 1858 in my last reply not 1860.
J. Edgar wrote: KCSfan wrote: 1860 and the RR was the Chicago & AltonMark wrong year right RR
KCSfan wrote: 1860 and the RR was the Chicago & AltonMark
1860 and the RR was the Chicago & Alton
OK I'll try 1861
J. Edgar wrote: Murphy Siding wrote: J. Edgar wrote: pointing out errors for grammer and spelling will not gain favor.....sooooo. close on the year...but nosooooo close on the RR...but nopssst: grammar OK then...1858, and Rock Island?right year wrong road.....oh wait your the grammere teecher huh....you're wrong!!!!!...heheeee
Murphy Siding wrote: J. Edgar wrote: pointing out errors for grammer and spelling will not gain favor.....sooooo. close on the year...but nosooooo close on the RR...but nopssst: grammar OK then...1858, and Rock Island?
J. Edgar wrote: pointing out errors for grammer and spelling will not gain favor.....sooooo. close on the year...but nosooooo close on the RR...but no
pointing out errors for grammer and spelling will not gain favor.....
sooooo. close on the year...but no
sooooo close on the RR...but no
pssst: grammar
OK then...1858, and Rock Island?
right year wrong road.....oh wait your the grammere teecher huh....you're wrong!!!!!...heheeee
passengerfan wrote: According to the new book GO PULLMAN just released it states that inspite of popular belief Mrs. Lincoln did not travel to her husbands funeral but instead stayed in the White House for six weeks after his death. Al - in - StocktonPS I will not take part in this quiz as the book has the answers and I was reading it yesterday.
According to the new book GO PULLMAN just released it states that inspite of popular belief Mrs. Lincoln did not travel to her husbands funeral but instead stayed in the White House for six weeks after his death.
Al - in - Stockton
PS I will not take part in this quiz as the book has the answers and I was reading it yesterday.
well just going by the source i have it states that "....mrs Lincoln had seen Pullmans new car the Pioneer in early 1865 and made a request to have this car attached to the funeral train in Chicago where she joined the train for the remainder of the trip"
source The Story of American Railroads Stewart Holbrook Crown Publishers 1948...being 60 yrs closer to the history Mr Holbrook had in his own words.." the opportunity to speak directly with survivors of the 19th century railroading"....taken with a grain of salt but.... Mr. holbrook's other works are extremely well researched....not to besmerch any other writer or researcher...
al-in-chgo wrote: I'll bid 1859 and the road that came to be named CMSt.P&P.
I'll bid 1859 and the road that came to be named CMSt.P&P.
close year...wrong RR
Murphy Siding wrote: J. Edgar wrote: pointing out errors for grammer and spelling will not gain favor.....sooooo. close on the year...but nosooooo close on the RR...but nopssst: grammar OK then...1858, and Rock Island?right year wrong road.....oh wait your the grammere teecher huh....you're wrong!!!!!...heheeee
Murphy Siding wrote: J. Edgar wrote:lol....thought this would be an easy one.....just prior to the civil war a railroad out of Chicago agreed to "loan" Mr Pullman 2 coaches that he renovated with his soon to be Patened upper and lower births....this same RR agreed to put the cars on an overnight train to great success....this same RR made emergancy ROW widening to haul the new Pullman the Pioneer which was both wider and taller then previous cars that would carry the windowed Mrs. Lincoln on this stretch a few years later at her request Mrs. Lincoln had windows? Who knew? I'll guess somewhere around 1857, on the IC?
J. Edgar wrote:lol....thought this would be an easy one.....just prior to the civil war a railroad out of Chicago agreed to "loan" Mr Pullman 2 coaches that he renovated with his soon to be Patened upper and lower births....this same RR agreed to put the cars on an overnight train to great success....this same RR made emergancy ROW widening to haul the new Pullman the Pioneer which was both wider and taller then previous cars that would carry the windowed Mrs. Lincoln on this stretch a few years later at her request
Mrs. Lincoln had windows? Who knew?
I'll guess somewhere around 1857, on the IC?
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