Being Crazy,keeps you from going "INSANE" !! "The light at the end of the tunnel,has been turned off due to budget cuts" NOT AFRAID A Vet., and PROUD OF IT!!
No, that was the Detroit & Toledo Shore Line, and it was a Class 1 railroad at one point. This railroad was only in (or near) Toledo. It wasn't the Toledo Terminal Railroad.
I think I'm out of hints here.
Carl
Railroader Emeritus (practiced railroading for 46 years--and in 2010 I finally got it right!)
CAACSCOCOM--I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. (SM)
-Don (Random stuff, mostly about trains - what else? http://blerfblog.blogspot.com/)
Sorry, we've been away again for a couple of days (sometimes I think I work harder at vacations than I do otherwise).
Don named the city in one of the recent responses--it's in Ohio, and it isn't Columbus. Now we need the name of the railroad.
Time's up!
The locomotive was the one and only R1, a 4-8-4 wheel arrangement - a "Northern" if it was a steam locomotive. The PRR borrowed an NH EP-3 4-6+6-4 and used it as the basis for designing the GG1. Still, they thought the home designed R1 was the better locomotive, so it got road number 4800 and the GG1 got 4899. In testing the R1 was a bit faster, but the GG1 was much easier on the track.
While we're all waiting, here's ane easy one. (Well I think it's easy, anyway....)
PRR 4800, the original GG1 is now sitting in the PA RR mueseum in Strassburg all decked out in the an early PRR paint scheme.
This locomotive was the underdog in a competition with another electric locomotive the PRR constructed. In fact, this other locomotive wore #4800 during the competition period.
What was the "favorite" (PRR class and wheel arrangement. Hint: It was a very popular modern steam loco wheel arrangement of which PRR had none)? What number did the GG1 wear during the test period? For extra credit: Which RR provided the idea for the GG1's wheel arrangement.
This question expires at 3:30 EDT. If no correct guesses - I'll provide!
Colombus, Ohio.
[Just a note that I am fanning and won't have time for a while to post anything no matter how WAG. In the meantime, would you guys haul our your really, really tough guestions so you'll be forced to give easy ones later?]
-allen
Brian (IA) http://blhanel.rrpicturearchives.net.
Huntington, WV?
CShaveRR wrote: No, not in Pennsylvania. In what type of city are you likely to find terminal railroads?(In fact, the city had another railroad named [city]Terminal--I can't remember whether the two interchanged.)
No, not in Pennsylvania. In what type of city are you likely to find terminal railroads?
(In fact, the city had another railroad named [city]Terminal--I can't remember whether the two interchanged.)
Toledo OH?
Indianapolis Union?
How about some sort of railroad out of Oil City, PA? Can't think that I've ever heard of one there, but can't think of another possibility.
Judging from the lack of even a WAG it looks like you've got us all stumped. I know I'm going to need another hint or two to stimulate my feeble brain.
Mark
KCSfan wrote:I've just received some later info regarding my earlier question about the last road to run a wood burner that I'd like to share. I've been told by a source on another forum that the Marianna & Blounstown in Florida used a wood burner as a standby for their diesel engine up until 1952. If correct that would make it the last road to have a wood burner in service.
Sorry, I have no intention of retracting my question!
KCSfan wrote: CShaveRR wrote: OK--now I'll jump in with the question I had last week. I'm thinking of a railroad...It was a small line, probably more of a terminal railroad than a short line. It owned hundreds of freight cars--and they were all tank cars, something rarely owned by railroads. The line was abandoned in 1955.Name it, and its location (city name will do).I don't have a clue on this one. I thought that except for a few owned by the RR's to transport diesel fuel and water on-line, most tank cars were privately owned (GATX, UTLX, etc.).Mark
CShaveRR wrote: OK--now I'll jump in with the question I had last week. I'm thinking of a railroad...It was a small line, probably more of a terminal railroad than a short line. It owned hundreds of freight cars--and they were all tank cars, something rarely owned by railroads. The line was abandoned in 1955.Name it, and its location (city name will do).
It was a small line, probably more of a terminal railroad than a short line. It owned hundreds of freight cars--and they were all tank cars, something rarely owned by railroads. The line was abandoned in 1955.
Name it, and its location (city name will do).
I don't have a clue on this one. I thought that except for a few owned by the RR's to transport diesel fuel and water on-line, most tank cars were privately owned (GATX, UTLX, etc.).
That was somewhat the point. I doubt that any of the larger carriers owned many more tank cars than this line did.
Very broad hint: on our vacation trip last week we visited Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia. In doing so, we passed through this state--and city--twice.
OK--now I'll jump in with the question I had last week. I'm thinking of a railroad...
I've just received some later info regarding my earlier question about the last road to run a wood burner that I'd like to share. I've been told by a source on another forum that the Marianna & Blounstown in Florida used a wood burner as a standby for their diesel engine up until 1952. If correct that would make it the last road to have a wood burner in service.
CShaveRR wrote:The name Live Oak, Perry & Gulf jumped out at me--but I don't even know whether that was in Florida, and I'm not allowed to look it up!
Bingo, we have a winner! The LOP&G which was acquired by the Southern in 1954 and today is a part of the Florida-Georgia Railnet is the road I had in mind.
Since posting this question I have I've been trying, without success, to find the definitive date that the "Loping Gopher" last ran a wood burner. I do know it was at least 1948 and I believe, but can't confirm, that it was actually later than that. In the course of my research I learned that the Mississippi & Alabama did operate with a wood burning 2-6-2 until it folded up in March 1950. Thus the M&A which ran between Leaksville, MS and Vinegar Bend, AL may actually be the last road to run a wood burner. It's hard to believe that such a primitive operation was running at a time when streamliners were plying the rails and for those who may be interested in seeing some photos of it, search for Mississippi & Alabama Railroad on Google. You'll be amazed to see pictures of their engine and "mainline" rails.
nanaimo73 wrote:Mark, I think you've stumpted us. Perhaps you could give us the answer and ask a new question.
Well don't look at me for an answer. I've already made my asinine statement and am way out of the ballpark on serious. - a.s.
Well, if it wasn't Union Pacific, Missouri Pacific or Western Pacific, then it must be:
GEORGIA-PACIFIC!!
lol
Sorry guys but it wasn't the Reader in AR or the L&NW which incidentally is not a fallen flag but continues to operate between McNeil, AR where it connects with the UP and its connection with the KCS at Gibsland, LA.
Looks like it's time for a hint so here it is. It was a Florida shortline railroad.
Reader RR
Sorry Al still not cigar - not the original NS.
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