ROB: I have many years of learning the do's and don'ts of overhead plumbing, so from what you told me already, I would recommend that you place Shut-Off valves on both the Hot and Cold water lines BEFORE the entrance to the new area. Make sure they are 90 degree BALL VALVES, NOT Gate Valves. Gate valves get hard to turn over time if they are not exercised regularly. Ball Valves can be shut off real fast also. And get the valves that have a bleeder screw on them in case you need to drain the line in the future, they cost a little more but more than worth the extra cost.
Also, buy insulation for both the hot and cold water lines. If you have ever seen a cold water line in the basement in a hot humid day after you have been drawing cold water, then you know exactly what I am referring to...drip city!!! The insulation on the Hot water line is to KEEP the water hot and save you energy $$$. Also make sure you duct tape the joints where the insulation meets the next section, leave no place open where water could leak.
I go one step further, but this is up to you. I always buy a can of Krylon ( or other mfgr paint type ) copper color, and spray all my pipes ESPECIALLY the soldered joints. The pipes and especially the solder joints get pretty ugly over time, turning green crud color due to oxidation. The spray paint protects the copper.
If your water supply has a lot of minerals and deposits in the water, you might want to install a filter in the water line. These are very common, and are sold at all the major hardware stores. I had one guy that worked with me have his water pipes at home all start to leak. His town water supply had a lot of sand and deposits in the water ( microscopic ) and over time, it acted like a sand blaster and ate away the interior wall of the copper pipes. Talk about a full scale mess in his basement!!!!
I hope this gives you some ideas Rob.
JEFF: So who cares about distance on a layout illustrating your locos and buildings, etc.!!! You spent $10, it takes great closeup shots of your layout, you did real good Jeff !!!! Maybe for Christmas you can get another camera that has a 10X telephoto for Railfanning, or, ceiling shots of your entire layout.
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Evening Gang: We had a little more rain today. Not a lot but enough to get things damp again. I'm hoping that it stops for a few days and lets the hay dry out. The weather guessers say very little chance tomorrow and no rain untill late Wednesday. We'll see.
Not much else going on. Mary Ann and I spent the afternoon watching a movie on CD. The Profisionals with Lee Marvin. A great flik.
It's bed time.
Good Night All
I am going to enjoy my new camera a bit. I got one just like Jeff has.
GP35 Conrail
GP50 KCS [In work]
David Parks I am the terror that flaps in the night!
Hey there y'all.
Norfolk Southern Update:
It is going to be even longer before I get a date to report to Georgia. I had to give a second hair sample for drug testing because the doctor that originally did it (or...X-ray technician I should say doing his first hair collection) did not give me everything to sign and initial, so NS could not use that sample. And, NS also needs complete medical of my broken arm incident from six years ago within two weeks. So, more stuff needs to be done before my training begins.
And now it seems like I've got people on the forum riding on my performance, buying stocks and all??? Jeesh. You guys sure do have faith in me.
And Jim in CG: CONGRATS!
I'm out y'all.
Scott - Dispatcher, Norfolk Southern
Dick, all Excellent advice! I did about half the plumbing in our new house myself. Several of the valves the other guy did started leaking as soon as I had to use them. I have replaced those valves with the expensive versions, so I should never need to worry about them again. If others give out, I will upgrade those as well.
Because we are on well water, I have a filter between both the well and the new house. Yes, high mineral content here. It is time to change the filter when the water starts to smell of iron & I would guess also sulfer. I've opted for CPVC throughout, so no copper or welds.
Also had the really hard foam insulation blown on all walls & in attic, and the thicker (but lighter) foam blown in cielings for sound dampening. House is tighter than a tick and I have not seen a single pipe sweat anywhere. My current workshop (garage) stays quite comfortable year round. It will connect by a door right into the new Train Room which should be no different. The wife calls this place "The Syrofoam Cup House". I've only turned on the AC in the middle floor about a dozen times this summer. Very efficient home, the opposite of our cabin. With almost everything turned off over there, the bill is outragous, so had the power company replace the meter.
Well, that's enough for now. Thanks again for all the very good suggestions.
Rob
Hi Chloe, just a decaf before I head home for bed. Thanks!
Jeff, whose switcher (NW2/SW7? or similar) was that? Looks like a nice one, and good detail on that. You're right about that little ol' $10 camera being a keeper! That Hall type loco is unique, for sure. Looks like young David has another good camera - that Geep looks good too - where do you guys find all those nice locos, by the way?
Jerry, I'm with you - hope Sallie's stay in the nursing home will be brief and she can come back home soon.
Mark, I know you west coast folks (you, Sue, Chuck & Kathy and others) don't get up as early - I was talking about our people east of me, who I'd think would be up already. (They usually are!) Besides, if it's the weekend, some of us sleep in (though I didn't this Saturday a.m.).
to the Diner, NScaler! Have a cup of your favorite beverage on me, and just give our virtual server twins your food order. Sit a spell, and tell us about your layout and what you're modeling, etc. (We're nosy friendly and love to hear about others' layouts)
Grayson, good to hear your brother is healing up and getting better.
Rob, your space for the layout sounds good - since you get to help plan the addition for it, you can probably figure where the supports, windows and other things are to design the layout to best use the space. I see Dick's giving you all the tips I wouldn't know diddley-squat about on the finer points of additions.
Paul, were you folks wanting rain out your way, or have you not had the drought conditions we've had until Thursday?
You betcha, Scott - those of us who've been here a while know you have good work habits, so we're pulling for you! Get those details ironed out, and get to the 1:1 'training'! (...little pun there... )
grayfox1119 wrote:Scott: Warren Buffet bought 2 billion $$ worth of stock in your new prospective company, so you had better believe there is tremendous pressure on you to perform well !!
See Scott, even Warren's heard about your good work habits!
And Jim in CG: CONGRATS! Thanks, Scott!
Update on our local MRR club move today - they had probably 1/2 to 2/3rds of the layout sections moved by the time I got laundry done and got there. The church had about six guys there to help with the move, and they must have moved stuff before. They were good at figuring out just how to turn, lift, etc. to get the stuff out the two doors to outside, around the railing and down the stairs (or just over the railing and down to a couple more of their guys below), and then down the ramp next door and into the new location. After we got all the big stuff moved, I got the Kirby vac and cleaned up the carpet in the old place (after another club member had taken a broom across it to gather up most of the bigger pieces of plaster or junk pieces on the floor. After we got it all in place in the new location, we got sodas for the church helpers (somebody had brought several boxes of donuts earlier), thanked them and they were on their way. Then almost all of the club members went out for pizza for lunch (one had to head home and two others weren't there - one was on vacation in Branson and the other was working and couldn't get off). Next we'll be working on re-joining sections, patching up join areas and (later) some additional track areas. We're looking at a staging yard in the back, plus making an additional section (and some changes in a couple of the older sections) so we'll have continuous running capability. That, and our club president decreed that we will have a turntable(!)
Well, better get myself going. Have to head home and get some sleep (even though I was worn out some and took a couple or three hour nap this afternoon). Prayers for Sallie, Gloria, Grayson's brother, and everyone else's health and healing, comfort and peace.
Blessings,
Jim in Cape Girardeau
Good morning ! from Indiana.
08-19-07
Bill Tidler Jr.
Near a cornfield in Indiana...
Good Morning - Janie, I'll have a cup of the TH coffee and one of those donuts Bill brought in. I'll try that chocolate one with the orange stripes - is that a 'Tiger' donut?
Just popping in briefly this morning. Looks like I got here after Bill arrived, but before the rest of the breakfast crew came in.
Anyone heard on how Fergie's Dad's been doing? Also, Chuck and Kathy, how've you two been coming along? Seems like at least a few days (or more) since we've heard from you. Haven't heard from JP for a while, either. Maybe some of them will come by the Diner today.
I'll be at the window booth and polish off my donut before I head out.
JimRCGMO wrote: Jeff, whose switcher (NW2/SW7? or similar) was that? Looks like a nice one, and good detail on that. You're right about that little ol' $10 camera being a keeper! That Hall type loco is unique, for sure. Looks like young David has another good camera - that Geep looks good too - where do you guys find all those nice locos, by the way?
Today's weather for Sundown, Louisiana.
Today High: 92 Mostly cloudy. Slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning...increasing to scattered in the afternoon. Highs in the lower 90s. Light and variable winds becoming southeast around 10 mph in the afternoon. Chance of rain 40 percent.
Tonight Low: 72 Mostly cloudy with isolated showers and thunderstorms. Lows in the lower 70s. Southeast winds around 10 mph in the evening becoming light and variable. Chance of rain 20 percent.
JimRCGMO wrote: Just popping in briefly this morning. Looks like I got here after Bill arrived, but before the rest of the breakfast crew came in.
They say that timing is everything!
I'll grab one of those donuts too! And some coffee! Thanks!
JimRCGMO wrote: Haven't heard from JP for a while, either. Maybe some of them will come by the Diner today. Blessings,Jim in Cape Girardeau
Haven't heard from JP for a while, either. Maybe some of them will come by the Diner today.
Well, I am here, alive and well, thanks! My problem is I have a new woman and she's been eating up 99% of my freetime. Best thing about her, is she won't let me go to the LHS unless she's with me!
As for her stats - she's 32, single, no kids, never married, and works 2 p/t jobs - 1 as the morning traffic reporter for one of the local radio stations, the other as a CSR for DHL.
Well, about time I go and change laundry loads while I wait for her to come back over in about 90 minutes.
Take care!
JP
//signed// John Powell President / CEO CNY Transportation Corp (fictional)
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Hunter - When we met in January of 2000, you were just a 6 week old pup who walked his way into this heart of mine as the only runt in the litter who would come over to me. And today, I sit here and tell you I am sorry we had to put you down. It was the best thing for you and also the right thing to do. May you now rest in peace and comfort. Love, Dad. 8 June 2010
I love you and miss you Mom. Say hi to everyone up there for me. Rest in peace and comfort. Love, John. 29 March 2017
Morning all
Raining here today so that means no riding.
JimCG Those little ones can be fun and funny to watch at times.
Met JR yesterday at the Grattan Raceway which is just outside of Grand Rapids. Had a GREAT time and those cars are really something to watch as they go around the track. We did get a pic and I will get it posted as soon as I get all of the pics loaded into the puter. Thank You JR and for those of you wondering,he is one of the most laid back people I have met and it was a pleasure. Talked with Chuck (his truck driver) as well as the car drivers and they all treated me Great.
Ok,here are some more of the garden RR.
That's about it
Best to all on sick call and those recovering
Talk to you later
Duke
P.S. I was just thinking. I have met 5 of our Diners and there is not one of them that I wouldn't hesitate to meet again,so that says a lot for those that come into this place. Thank You All.
"Don't take a wooden nickel,because it isn't worth a dime" by my Dad
"There are only 3 things you need out of life:A gentle grade,the wind in your face,and cinders in your hair.....But keep an eye on the water glass!" Jack Evans
in a ATSF mug, please & thank you.
***JP, if the new woman likes going to the LHS with you, that's a mighty good sign.
***Duke, enjoyed the photos.
For whatever reason, while looking at Duke's photos, an idea popped into my head about using a mirror behind a small town scene to add an impression of depth. Then bring painted sky & clouds into the top of the mirror from the backdrop so there wouldn't be any obvious edges. Tricky part I imagine would be making the transition from glass mirror to backdrop flawless. Might work in a small valley where the town is surrounded by mountains. Any thoughts on this?
***Jeffrey, Excellent scenes portayed in those photos. Still can't believe how cheap that camera was. BTW, do you prefer Jeff to Jeffrey? I should have asked long ago.
***Scott, this time be sure to use your own hair samples instead of trying to slip your neighbors dog's hair past the Lab.
Looks like the local Tractor Supply is all out of those huge water tanks. I have a feeling we're going to be needing a tank truck load delivered before this summer is over. Our neighbors across the road were been gone for a week and didn't know their creek had dried up until we called them. Good thing their horses let me know. Another neighbor dug up an old well line and not only emptied a friend of ours well, but used her power/well pump to do it. Once he was caught, he apologized and offered to pay her for it. Sounds like a Shooting Offense to me. Unbelievable lack of respect for someone elses property!
Back to work here. Have a great day, All! Rob
Good morning, Coffee please. And maybe one of those twisty glazed donuts.
Dick, No. I didn't get lost in the tunnel. I have just had lots of family stuff. I have not had time to even think much about trains. Larry and I did manage to splurge and pick up 6 more athearn coal cars, and some RH passenger cars. We now can make a 20 car coal train.
Rob, Goats in the trunk?
Jim, Happy grandpa.
Jeff, You sure have been busy as a photog.
Duke, Is that your garden layout? Such detail. Thanks for sharing.
Sue
Anything is possible if you do not know what you are talking about.
Mornin'!
Just got back from altar serving at mass... So here I am.
Jeff: On the last page, is that a bachmann UP 0-6-0 with an IHC 0-8-0 tender? The tender looks like my friend's 0-8-0s. I also like the FA/B.
Well... On the home stretch... Three to go...
Mark
Hoople wrote: Jeff: On the last page, is that a bachmann UP 0-6-0 with an IHC 0-8-0 tender? The tender looks like my friend's 0-8-0s. I also like the FA/B.
Hoople: Sorry, no, it's not. It's a Bachmann 0-6-0 Santa Fe tender that's been repainted gray and had the trucks changed out.
Cederstrand wrote: ***Jeffrey, Excellent scenes portayed in those photos. Still can't believe how cheap that camera was. BTW, do you prefer Jeff to Jeffrey? I should have asked long ago.
Hey JimRCGMO
Where is Cape Girardeau Mo?
I live In Columbia...its kinda cool to meet other Missourians Here!
Army National Guard E3MOS 91BI have multiple scales nowZ, N, HO, O, and G.
Hello everybody...
I posted this photo on week end photo fun. The caboose (way car in Burlington terms) is a Walthers is one that I just installed the grab irons in the last couple of dys. The 2-6-2 is a brass loco. The reefer has a load of pork headed for a BBQ at the diner, and Jeff needs to bring the Trappy's Bull Hot Sauce.
I've enjoyed the KCS pix from Jeff and the garden railroad pix from Duke. It's good to read that JR and Duke met in G. R. area.
Happy model railroading.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
I think I've got this thing fine tuned now.
Rob Mirrors have been used by many for the purpose you are looking at.
Sue No.it isn't my layout but I have a pic of the owner on page 288. He is a friend of Ray's who is a riding friend of mine and I have a pic of him the day we were there.
Garry Are you going to be the Master BBQ'er when the pigs get here. Had a great time with JR,Chuck,and the car drivers of the cars JR takes care of for them.
Jeff $10 camera huh?? Not bad at all and it really brings out the details.
As for things that make a statement.
A house with reflective windows?
Some taggers had a little fun with one of my boxcars.
And they had a LOT of fun with my new covered hopper!
Good evening....a fine Sunday here, spent the day reading several RR books and generally taking it easy...a day of rest.
ROB: It certainly looks like you have a good handle on things for the new train room, I am no longer concerned.
JEFF: You are having a ball with your new camera, and I like the realism of your layout, nice job Jeff!!!
DUKE: Thank you for the compliment, and it goes right back to you my friend. And that Garden layout is something else isn't it !!!!
TIFN
Good Evening All
trying to write this but it's hard to. notice no capital letters? can't as i can't use shift key as the dog is chewing on left hand!
Ahh that's better she left. Thanks for sharing the photo's guys as thet always get the inspirational juices flowing.
As for Dad's health, well he's very ill at present and still going down hill. Had one nurse in tears this evening as she hadn't seen him since the last visit and she couldn't believe his present state. So as stated before I thank all for the prayers.
Fergie
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If one could roll back the hands of time... They would be waiting for the next train into the future. A. H. Francey 1921-2007
Evening, an Irish coffee please Flo.
Back from Missouri, fishing trip went ok other than hotter than ???? and humid. We did catch a few fish, ate beans, told stories n lies and darn few barley pops, but we drank mostly water. Good to get away from the wives n kids a couple days.
JIM CG it did ran on us, Friday as we setting up the last tent and a gain Saturday evening, but it just made it worse with the humidity.
I got a bunch of pics, some of trains even, to post later in the week after I catch up some here [haven't read a thing yet]
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Hello everyone.....
Fergie, I'm deeply concerned about your Dad. God bless your Dad, you and your family.
Duke. Thanks for the comment, also. AS for my being the BBQ, chef, I'd be glad to do so, but how about Chef Ryan, too. If he wants to take over, I'd be glad to assist. regards to ray; it was good meeting him, too.
JP...best wishes to you regarding the 32 year old.
Everyone, ....... Tomorrow, Shelley and I are off to Nashville airport to pick up my Mom who will visit a few days. She's 88 and still quite active. Plays piano in church. Travels. ....but still acts like a Mom if you know what I mean.
Happy Model Railroading.