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Welcome to the September Diner! This month we are in New Mexico! Locked

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:45 PM

Dave ... Thanks for moving the Diner.

 

The namesake city for the Santa Fe Railway is in New Mexico.  So it would be good to see some Santa Fe trains in September. 

GARRY

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:43 PM

Hi again Kevin,

I just learned something! I always thought that the Black Widow spider's red mark was on their backs! Now I know better.

How about using a propane plumbing torch? That's what I use for tent caterpiller infestations. Just try not to burn the house down!Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaugh

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:35 PM

SeeYou190
I tipped the guys $50.00 each. Well worth it. That was a lot of work I did not want to do.

Good for you Kevin!

I am a firm believer in rewarding people for quality work so I give generous tips where deserved. I also try to set the tone for contractors by providing cold drinks (non-alcoholic) and by putting an ashtray on the deck. That despite the fact that we generally don't allow smoking on the property.

These people work hard. If they do a good job they deserve to be rewarded for their efforts.

Dave

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Posted by BigDaddy on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:35 PM

New Mexico cool.

My wife and I looked at Albuquerque as a possible retirement location.  We asked the realtor for recommendations for Mexican food and his suggestions were based on the exact entre you wanted to eat.

Albuquerque has a high crime rate.  It also doesn't have what we in the east would recognize as storm drains.  Instead they have arroyos which are located at the very bottom of the hill.  On a big hill, the right lane turns into a river as there is no place for the water to go, until it gets to the arroyo.

We can't but acknowledge that Roswell and Area 51 is in NM.  I hunted with a guide that claimed he knew someone who had pieces of the "space craft"  buried beneath his back yard deck.

In 1995 there was a film of the Alien Autopsy which was produced in London, but.....supposedly it was based on a real autopsy done at the time.

Independence Day:

 

Henry

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:21 PM

The two fellows that showed up to plant all by trees today really worked their tails off.

42 Areca palms were planted in the back yard. When these grow in, I will not need to look at my neighbor's dillapidated chain link fence any longer.

The Coconut Palm will be a nice addition to the food providers I have in the lawn already.

And I got a Southern Magnolia. I love magnolia blossoms, and I am looking forward to this tree maturing.

While they were doing that, I finished prepping the floor for level mortar.

I tipped the guys $50.00 each. Well worth it. That was a lot of work I did not want to do.

-Kevin

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:20 PM

Looks like the New Mexico Diner opened a little early!

BLACK WIDOW!

I mentioned Black Widows in Dave's thread about his new layout, and I must have jinxed myself. I opened my irrigation water supply today, and saw this monster in there:

Just to make sure I knew who she was, she rolled over to show me the red badge on her abdomen.

The only spray I had handy was wasp an hornet killer.

I saturated the spider, but it barely even phased her. She crawled out of the foam poison with barely even a bother.

So, I reached in there with the trusty Snap-On spider crushers, and gave her a proper squishing.

I need to pose this question again, I hope someone can help.

Is there a spray that will kill a Black Widow? They seem to be immune to everything except CRC Brake & Parts Cleaner, and that just stuns them.

Thanks.

-Kevin

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:17 PM

One of New Mexico's less than pleasant railroading incidents. This was caused by extreme wind.

Dave

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 9:08 PM

The Best Train Ride In The Nation Is Right Here In New Mexico

USA Today’s Ten Best “Readers’ Choice” Awards just acknowledged New Mexico’s Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad as the best train ride in the nation.

Those readers are right and here’s why.

We’re aware that these uncertain times are limiting many aspects of life as we all practice social and physical distancing. While we’re continuing to feature destinations that make our state wonderful, we don’t expect or encourage you to go check them out immediately. We believe that supporting local attractions is important now more than ever and we hope our articles inspire your future adventures! And on that note, please nominate your favorite local business that could use some love right now: https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/nominate/
1. The Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad is the most beautiful train ride in the country. On the way, it passes through scenery like this. 2. This railroad has chugged its way into history. 3. This is one of the last steam engines still in operation. 4. The rails are only 3 feet apart. 5. The train travels to elevations of over 10,000 feet. 6. But the experience is still really relaxing. 7. There are several types of rides available. 8. It’s the perfect way to admire the changing foliage. 9. You might end up at Hogwarts!

Things to know: The Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad operates from the end of May through the end of October every year. For schedules and fares, click here. Ticket prices are admittedly a splurge at $49 for children and $99 for adults for the full-day excursion. Half-day trips cost $29 for children and $79 for adults. However, this is truly a once in a lifetime experience. (Also, you need to pay the folks shoveling all that coal.)

This railroad, which began as a functional way to access mines, has transformed into the best train ride in the country. New Mexicans are inventive and skilled at repurposing. For another example of a place that was once tied to mining but that has since been reimagined, check out the Catwalk National Scenic Trail.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 8:54 PM

Here is a list of New Mexico railroads, both present and past. The sheer number of defunct railways tells us that railroading wasn't necessarily always profitable:

List of New Mexico railroads

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The following railroads operate in the US state of New Mexico.

Common freight carriers[edit]

Private freight carriers[edit]

Passenger carriers[edit]

Defunct railroads[edit]

NameMarkSystem[nb 1]FromToSuccessorNotes
Alamogordo and Sacramento Mountain Railway   SP 1898 1937 El Paso and Southwestern Railroad  
Albuquerque Eastern Railway   ATSF 1901 1908 New Mexico Central Railroad  
Arizona and Colorado Railroad   SP 1904 1910 Arizona Eastern Railroad  
Arizona Eastern Railroad   SP 1904 1955 Southern Pacific Company  
Arizona and New Mexico Railway   SP 1883 1935 El Paso and Southwestern Railroad  
Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railroad   ATSF 1878 1895 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway ATSF ATSF 1895 1996 Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway  
Atlantic and Pacific Railroad   ATSF 1866 1897 Santa Fe Pacific Railroad  
Burlington Northern Railroad BN   1981 1996 Burlington Northern and Santa Fe Railway  
Burro Mountain Railroad   SP 1909 1934 N/A  
Cerrillos Coal Railroad   ATSF 1892 1901 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Chicago, Rock Island and Choctaw Railway   RI 1903 1903 Chicago, Rock Island and El Paso Railway  
Chicago, Rock Island and El Paso Railway   RI 1900 1910 Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railway
Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad RI, ROCK RI 1948 1980 St. Louis Southwestern Railway  
Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railway RI RI 1910 1947 Chicago, Rock Island and Pacific Railroad  
Cimarron and Northwestern Railway     1907 1930 N/A
Clifton and Lordsburg Railway   SP 1883 1883 Arizona and New Mexico Railway  
Colorado and Southern Railway C&S, CS CB&Q 1898 1981 Burlington Northern Railroad  
Cuba Extension Railroad     1923 1927 Santa Fe Northern Railroad  
Dawson Railway   SP 1901 1955 Southern Pacific Company
Denver and Rio Grande Railroad   DRGW 1886 1921 Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad
Denver and Rio Grande Railway   DRGW 1870 1886 Denver and Rio Grande Railroad
Denver and Rio Grande Western Railroad D&RG, D&RGW, DRGW DRGW 1920 1970 Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad
Denver, Texas and Fort Worth Railroad   CB&Q 1887 1890 Union Pacific, Denver and Gulf Railway
Eastern Railway of New Mexico   ATSF 1902 1912 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway
El Paso and Northeastern Railway   SP 1897 1937 El Paso and Southwestern Railroad
El Paso and Rock Island Railway   SP 1900 1955 Southern Pacific Company
El Paso and Southwestern Company   SP 1908 1924 El Paso and Southwestern Railroad
El Paso and Southwestern Railroad   SP 1902 1955 Southern Pacific Company
Fort Worth and Denver Railway FWD CB&Q 1981 1982 Burlington Northern Railroad
Hanover Railroad   ATSF 1899 1900 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway
Lordsburg and Hachita Railroad   SP 1901 1911 Arizona and New Mexico Railway
Missouri Pacific Railroad MP MP 1978 1989 Texas – New Mexico Railroad
New Mexican Railroad   ATSF 1882 1899 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway
New Mexican Railway Company Unknown Unknown 1860 1865? Unknown Incorporated Feb 2, 1860; Memorial... in Relation to the Pacific Railroad - May 21, 1860
New Mexico Central Railroad   ATSF 1908 1918 New Mexico Central Railway
New Mexico Central Railway   ATSF 1918 1977 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway
New Mexico Gateway Railroad NMGR   2001 2006 N/A
New Mexico Midland Railway     1904 1931 none, route abandoned[1] hauled coal from Carthage to San Antonio, NM[1]
New Mexico and Southern Pacific Railroad   ATSF 1878 1899 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Pecos Northern Railroad   ATSF 1890 1890 Pecos Valley Railway  
Pecos Valley Railroad   ATSF 1890 1890 Pecos Valley Railway  
Pecos Valley Railway   ATSF 1890 1898 Pecos Valley and Northeastern Railway  
Pecos Valley and Northeastern Railway   ATSF 1898 1907 Eastern Railway of New Mexico  
Rio Grande Eastern Railway     1923 1931   Served Hagan from near San Felipe[2]
Rio Grande, Mexico and Pacific Railroad   ATSF 1880 1899 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Rio Grande, Mexico and Pacific Railroad Extension Company   ATSF 1881 1881 Rio Grande, Mexico and Pacific Railroad  
Rio Grande and Pagosa Springs Railroad     1895 1914 N/A  
Rio Grande and Santa Fe Railroad   DRGW 1895 1908 Denver and Rio Grande Railroad  
Rio Grande and Southwestern Railroad   DRGW 1903 1924 N/A  
Rocky Mountain and Santa Fe Railway   ATSF 1915 1943 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
St. Louis, Rocky Mountain and Pacific Railway   ATSF 1905 1915 Rocky Mountain and Santa Fe Railway  
St. Louis Southwestern Railway SSW SP 1980 1997 Union Pacific Railroad  
Santa Fe, Albuquerque and Pacific Railroad   ATSF 1900 1901 Santa Fe Central Railway  
Santa Fe Central Railway   ATSF 1901 1908 New Mexico Central Railroad  
Santa Fe Northwestern Railway     1920 1941 N/A  
Santa Fe Northern Railroad     1927 1928 Santa Fe, San Juan and Northern Railroad  
Santa Fe Pacific Railroad   ATSF 1897 1902 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Santa Fe, Raton and Des Moines Railroad     1906 1914 N/A Operated by Santa Fe, Raton and Eastern Railroad
Santa Fe, Raton and Eastern Railroad   ATSF 1906 1924 Rocky Mountain and Santa Fe Railway  
Santa Fe, San Juan and Northern Railroad     1928 1941 N/A  
Santa Fe Southern Railway (19th-century "Chili Line")   DRGW 1889 1895 Rio Grande and Santa Fe Railroad  
Santa Fe Southern Railway (21st century)   SFS 1992 2014 N/A  
Santa Rita Railroad   ATSF 1897 1900 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Silver City, Deming and Pacific Railroad   ATSF 1882 1899 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Silver City and Northern Railroad   ATSF 1891 1899 Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway  
Southern Pacific Railroad   SP 1879 1955 Southern Pacific Company  
Southern Pacific Company SP SP 1885 1969 Southern Pacific Transportation Company  
Southern Pacific Transportation Company SP SP 1969 1998 Union Pacific Railroad  
Southwestern Railroad of New Mexico   SP 1901 1902 El Paso and Southwestern Railroad  
Texas – New Mexico Railway TNM MP 1927 1978 Missouri Pacific Railroad  
Texas, Santa Fe and Northern Railroad   DRGW 1880 1884 Santa Fe Southern Railway  
Tierra Amarilla Southern Railroad   DRGW 1892 1902 Denver and Rio Grande Railroad  
Tucumcari and Memphis Railway   RI 1909 1910 Chicago, Rock Island and El Paso Railway  
Union Pacific, Denver and Gulf Railway   CB&Q 1890 1898 Colorado and Southern Railway  
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Dave

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 8:50 PM

"The advent of the railroads in New Mexico was the beginning of an era of permanent prosperity for the people of the territory. The wonderful rapidity with which the great trans-continental transportation lines were constructed was not less marvelous than the astonishing awakening of the people to the fact that at last New Mexico was really in touch with the enlightened progress and modern methods of the people of the eastern states."          - Leading Facts of New Mexico History, Vol. II, pg. 480

 

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Welcome to the September Diner! This month we are in New Mexico!
Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 8:43 PM

Hi gang!!

The Diner hasn't gone to far from where is was in August, but I think this month will be interesting none the less. New Mexico has both modern and historic railroading. Let's take a look.

To start off, I thought we would introduce New Mexico by going back in time to one of the most iconic historical railroads in the world, the Cumbres and Toltec Scenic Railroad. This short documentary says as much about the history of New Mexico as it does about the railway itself:

Now that we have set the scene, let's complete the more formal interoduction to the Diner.

For those new to this place, Jeffrey´s Trackside Diner  is the place for you to go to relax and talk off topic about most anything - as long as you stay within the forum rules, which means certain hot button topics are excluded. Please refer to Steven Otte´s post on Forum Policies. Everybody is welcome to participate in the Diner ! 

The staff - that´s Zoe, Chloe, Flo, Janie, and Brunhilda —  is very friendly and will serve up plenty of virtual diner fare with a smile. Just don´t forget to leave a generous tip! Now and then, our host Steven Otte chips in and brings along some goodies for us to try - which is always heartily welcomed!  

Come in and sit for a while, ALL are welcome.

 

 

As always, in rememberance of our fallen but not forgotten comrades, here is the RIP Track:

 

The RIP Track

  

 

At the beginning of each month, it is the time to pay our respect to friends no longer with us.

 

 Barry Arnold aka BlownoutCylinder

Alan B

Neil Besougloff

Jerry Cox aka Cox47

Wolfgang Dudler aka Westport Terminal

Bob Hartle aka cmrproducts

Tom Mills

Harold Minkwitz aka hminky

Ed Murphy

Michael L. Myles aka Inch

Bill North

James W. Rohde aka CapeJim

Stein Rypern, Jr. aka Steinjr

Andy Sperandeo

Jeffrey "Running Bear" Wimberley

 

Gone BUT Not Forgotten

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