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Welcome to the September Diner! This month we are in New Mexico! Locked

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Posted by BigDaddy on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 1:07 AM

Roswell, Area 51 yeah I got that wrong.

Still waiting for Comcast to tell me how much they want to charge me for running cable to the house.  It is the only provider in my neighborhood, but they have decided I am not in their service area, even though the next door neighbor has it.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, September 2, 2020 12:13 AM

gmpullman

Thanks Ed,

In hindsight, the answer is pretty obvious.

It is interesting how our tastes have evolved with respect to hot sauce. Our parents might have had a tiny bottle of Tabasco on hand, and it might last for years! My English grandmother also had Worcestershire of course, but it was used sparingly. We saw Tabasco in restaurants decades ago but were too chicken to try it.

Today we always have four or five varieties that are kept on the counter right next to the stove. We buy Frank's Hot Sauce in the largest size available. I put 32 shots of Franks into a 16 oz. Bloody Caesar, plus half a dozen shots of Worcestershire.

We give our son bottles of firey hot sauce for Christmas every year and he loves them.

Something we haven't experimented with much is green hot sauce. I'll have to buy a couple of bottles.

Cheers!!

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:57 PM

Correcting my earlier comment.

 

it was a bite from a brown recluse spider , not a black widow spider, that sent my friend to the hospital. 

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:52 PM

hon30critter
Okay, I'll bite! What are they talking about?

Yep! I came across that phrase once upon a time myself.

https://www.tortillaflats.net/new-mexican-food-santa-fe/red-or-green-what-you-need-to-know-about-chile-sauces/

My condolences, Jeremy.

One of my favorite Jack Delano photos. SO much going on here, and the hints for modeling details. I counted about forty railroad employees, probably more, plus those unseen.

 Santa-Fe_Albuquerque-3-1943 by Edmund, on Flickr

Click to go to Flickr and blow the photo up (click again) unless you're using one of those Dick Tracy wrist computers Whistling

This is the same spot the photo Dave posted on page one was taken. That's a GE U30CG in your photo, Dave.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GE_U30CG

Here we are again in Albuquerque, thirty years later but on the next track to the right.

 Southwest-Chief_Albuquerque by Edmund, on Flickr

Same light poles, smaller fuel [edit] (my mistake, those are the potable water hoses for the passenger cars) hoses, though Smile

 

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:48 PM

carl425
I love a state where waiters simply ask "red or green" and expect you to know what they are talking about.

Hi carl425,

Okay, I'll bite!Smile, Wink & Grin What are they talking about?

Dave

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Posted by carl425 on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:23 PM

New Mexico is great. I love a state where waiters simply ask "red or green" and expect you to know what they are talking about.

I have the right to remain silent.  By posting here I have given up that right and accept that anything I say can and will be used as evidence to critique me.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 10:32 PM

JeremyB
those are some stunning pictures of that black widow, they say we have them here in these parts of onatrio but have never seen one

Thanks Jeremy. My good camera just happened to be in the garage where I keep the wasp killer, so I snapped a few pictures.

Heartland Division CB&Q
Regarding, black widow spiders ...  One of my model train friends was nearly killed by one of them. He did spend about two weeks in the hospital at the time, and was in very bad condition. 

For as frequently as I see them down here, I am surprised that I do not know of anyone that has ever been bitten by one.

-Kevin

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 10:20 PM

 Eveing Diners

 Flo, give the gang and I a Beer and Dirk a dog treat.

 Just wanted to stop by and let you know I and still above dirt. Just beat so later, Ken and Dirk says Woof, Woof.

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:44 PM

JeremyB
on may 20 at the age of 63 I lost my dad to cancer.

Hi Jeremy,

So sorry to hear about your dad, especially since he was so young. My condolences.

Dave

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:44 PM

I traveled through New Mexico last year.  The Navajo Nation runs a neat monument where the states of Colorado, Utah, Arizona, and New Mexico meet at one point.

The first picture is the actual point determined by the Department of the Interior, and the second one is when I stood on one foot in all four states at the same time.

 

 

 

It's a little off the beaten track, but if you are anywhere near there, it's a good stop.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:25 PM

Howdy ...

It is good to see so many people particpating in the Diner on the first day of them month. Please continue for the rest of the month. 

Jeremy ... Sincere condolences for your loss.  

Ed .... Interstingly, ATSF continued to use the round end observtion on the short local train. The railroad discontinued observation cars on the Super Chief and other name trains, but not the Clovis train. 

Regarding, black widow spiders ...  One of my model train friends was nearly killed by one of them. He did spend about two weeks in the hospital at the time, and was in very bad condition. 

 

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Posted by JeremyB on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 7:05 PM

Hi guys

wow it's been awhile since I was last in the diner. Things for me haven't been good this year with what has been going on and on may 20 at the age of 63 I lost my dad to cancer. He just turned 63 on may 5. We thought we would have had until next year with him so it was a shock. He was suppose to start chemo again on the Thursday but passed on the Wednesday morning in his sleep. I think he didn't want to go back there and wanted to go to sleep and not be in pain anymore. He passed at home which was good in a way because if it was in the hospital I don't know if we could have gone up. It's been a rough summer for the family . I hope to get in here more often.

 

those are some stunning pictures of that black widow, they say we have them here in these parts of onatrio but have never seen one.

 

take care

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Posted by SpaceMouse on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 6:45 PM

Wow! I check in on day one and find you guys have been posting like crazy since yesterday. 

I have an understanding with most "dangerous wildlife" rattlers, scorpions, spiders, skunks, etc. I don't mess with them and they don't mess with me. It's worked for the better part of a century for me.

Kevin--I wouldn't want to look at that fence either.

Nice NMRR info and photos. You guys put in a lot of work. Heck it was a lot of work to read it.

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:25 PM

RideOnRoad
All that was required was to flush out the drain lines. The emergency catch pan is rusted but we are looking to replace the unit before next summer so we passed on replacing the pan. B

My emergency catch pan is fiberglass with a built in water sensor to shut the unit off if it fails. Per code, it needs to be replaced when the air handler is replaced, which I think is stupid, but it is what it is.

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Posted by azrail on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 2:55 PM

Santa Fe is the capitol city in NM, and the reason why the ATSF never built its mainline through there is because of the mountain ranges surrounding the city to the North and East

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 2:18 PM

Here's a good example of a "Pike-Sized" passenger train. Clovis, New Mexico:

 

 ATSF_26_Clovis by Edmund, on Flickr

 

Cheers, Ed

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Posted by up831 on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:11 PM

Hi Everyone,

New Mexico is an interesting place.  The continental divide goes through New Mexico although it's not as spectacular as in Colorado.  The capital Albuquerque is on the Rio Grande River in a valley between two mountain ranges.  Once, my wife and I were flying from LAX to Wichita with a stop in Albuquerque.  The approach was very turbulent.  The flight attendants were walking the aisle by wedging their feet against the seat mounts so they wouldn't bounce their heads off the ceiling.  Once we landed, my wife got off the plane and went to the bathroom.  It took some coaxing to get her back on the plane.  

Oddly enough the Santa Fe main line doesn't go through Santa Fe and to my knowledge never has.  It goes through 20 or so miles south.  Go figure.

Black Widows:  dangerous pests!  They are present all through the Southwest.  Aside from manually swatting them, I've also used WD-40.  They are almost always upside down thus exposing the famous orangish red hour glass, not to be confused with the Australian Red Back, which does have red triangles on its back and is a cousin to the Black Widow.  Anyway, its my understanding that spiders breathe through their abdomens, so just spray a generous amount of WD-40 on their abdomens and they'll suffocate because the oil is fine, clogs up their air tubes and they can't clean them out.  Sounds kinda grizzly, but it works!  Also, the Black Widows you generally see are the females.  The males are much smaller and the females kill them and eat them, hence the name.  Ugh!

Roswell is the home of UFOs due to an alleged encounter between a B25 and a flying saucer.  Roswell did have an Air Force base there before it was shut down in the 60s.  Anyway, whether true or not, makes for a great story.  However, Area 51 is in Groom Lake, Nevada.  Whatever is there, a person can get into rather serious trouble trying to cross the fence.

New Mexico is also the home of the Manhattan Project, and White Sands apart from being a national monument is also a missle proving ground.

Less is more,...more or less!

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:32 AM

During World War II, my mother-in-law was in the armed forces. As she was traveling to her assignment by train, the train stopped at the Harvey House in Belen, NM. She had very fond memories of the visit. Today the Belen Harvey House is the Belen Harvey House Museum. Worth the time if you ever find yourself in Belen. (Plus it is right next to a major switching yard so there is always something to watch.)

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Posted by RideOnRoad on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:09 AM

BroadwayLion
. . .The A/C would not be covered under home owners insurance, but the Dammage caused by it should be. I'd rattle your insurer's cage over this... but it is most likely that the repairs would cost way less than the deductable. . .

No need for cage rattling. The insurance company had no problem with the claim. The restoration company is already here working on drying out the attic. The claim will be more than my deductible in large part because of all of the painting that will be required post repair. I have been with this insurance company for many years, have submitted a few claims, and have never had an issue. (I don't want to violate any diner rules so I am not naming the company, but they are a major insurer with bag hands.)

As for the A/C repair, it was completed yesterday. All that was required was to flush out the drain lines. The emergency catch pan is rusted but we are looking to replace the unit before next summer so we passed on replacing the pan. Both units are over 23 years old with 23 Arizona summers under their belts. The average age to failure for our units is about 17 years so we are living on borrowed time.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:49 AM

Lion ...I am not certain, but UP is my guess. 

I recall a family ride on the Santa Fe from Chicago to Los Angeles in 1957. It went through NM.  I remember the train slowly ascended grades over Raton Pass. 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:35 AM

Ride on Road....

The A/C would not be covered under home owners insurance, but the Dammage caused by it should be.

I'd rattle your insurer's cage over this... but it is most likely that the repairs would cost way less than the deductable.

 

Once upon a time, when we were still little cubs, we were sitting in the living room and mon's leg came through the ceiling. She must of been in the attic and stepped inbetween the rafters.

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Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:31 AM

Heartland Division CB&Q
Lion .... My guess.... Union Pacific

 

Oh My... LION wasn't thinking of that.

 

OK... THE OLDEST RAIL ROAD continually operating under its original charter and name.

And are you sere Union Pacific is their original name and charter?

 

ROAR

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:09 AM

LION has been to New Mexico once. Him rode thriough it on a ATSF train to Chicago. Him had just gotten out of the Navy.

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:05 AM

Good morning ... 

Lion .... My guess.... Union Pacific 

Dave .....  That is a great group of ATSF photos. 

Mel ...... I like your photos of the trestle in beautiful scenery. A like your HO version and the SP locomotive. 

TF .... ? .... I like NM. 

Here is a Santa Fe E6 on my layout.

GARRY

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 9:04 AM

Long List.

 

Now mane the only railroad in the USA still operating under its original charter and its original name!

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by RR_Mel on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 7:58 AM

We spent over 20 years in Alamogordo and I chased the ghosts of the Alamogordo and Sacramento Mountain Railway a lot during that 20 years.  Found and salvaged a chunk of narrow gauge rail.  The track used narrow gauge rail at standard width.

The most famous portion of the mountain railroad was and still is the Mexican Canyon Trestle.

Before restoral



After restoral



I climbed all over the trestle in the late 1960s, I was a bit younger back then.  When I built my final layout I just had to have a trestle.  This is it.



We would have liked to retire back in Alamogordo but the housing crash in 2008 did us in and now we’re too old to move.  We do miss the New Mexico Mountains and Cloudcroft inparticular.

Looking west from Cloudcroft to Alamogordo and the White Sands National Monument.



 


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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, September 1, 2020 12:06 AM

SeeYou190
Is there a spray that will kill a Black Widow?

I've mostly relied on Sevin dust for much of my insect control. For ground hornets (NASTY things) I give them a puff of Tempo dust (Bayer) after dark.

Black widows, knock on (rotted) wood. We haven't had them as far as I know. Brown recluse, yes!

https://www.doyourownpestcontrol.com/black_widow_spider.htm


 

 

Thanks for the Diner move, Dave! Great Job! Yes

 

I've only occupied about one square foot of New Mexico back in '68 when I visited "Four Corners" and planted my foot in four US States at once.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 11:42 PM

Heartland Division CB&Q
The namesake city for the Santa Fe Railway is in New Mexico.  So it would be good to see some Santa Fe trains in September. 

Okay, here are a few:

Ooops!

Okay, what's this guy?

Somebody save me!!! Please!!

More to come later.

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, August 31, 2020 11:25 PM

Track fiddler
New Mexico No I had my taste of that place    Nope

Sorry if my choice has offended you TF. I don't know what to say. There didn't seem to be any objections, at least not up until now.

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Posted by Track fiddler on Monday, August 31, 2020 10:28 PM

New Mexico No

I had my taste of that place 

 

Nope

 

 

 

TF

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