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JEFFREY'S TRACK SIDE DINER, OCTOBER 2016: Cumberland Gap Locked

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, October 23, 2016 10:35 AM

LION stop in with trays of Sticky Buns. Also have some very light and fluffy donuts. Just what a Sunday Morning kneads.

  

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Posted by cats think well of me on Sunday, October 23, 2016 10:26 AM

Hello all,

Wishing everyone a good weekend. It's nice in Lancaster PA today.

I got a Tichy Water column built and painted last night. I used Pollyscale Grimy black for the column itself, and Model Master Aged concrete for the base. I'll post pics sometime.

While cleaning the airbrush (a Paasche Talon), I managed to shear off the threaded section of the nozzle and get it stuck in the body of the airbrush. Not good. I'll work on it tonight and see if I can remove the broken part without damaging the airbrush, or maybe send it to Paasche to fix. 

A friend and I signed the lease for a place, a 3br, 2bath, apartment back on Friday, so I'll be leaving my parent's home again early December. 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Sunday, October 23, 2016 9:53 AM

Dave ..... LOL 

When I was a kid growing up in Chicago suburbs, I went to Cubs and White Sox games. We rode Burlington commuter trains into the city, and the rode the CTA "El" trains to the ballpark. 

 

Go Cubs ! 

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Posted by hon30critter on Sunday, October 23, 2016 12:05 AM

Hey Garry!

"Yay Cubs!"

Remember - no religion on the forums!Smile, Wink & GrinLaughLaughLaugh

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, October 22, 2016 11:18 PM

Yay, Cubs ! 

 


 

Tom ... That's a beautiful scene.

Ray ... Same about the sunset photo.  

 

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Posted by herrinchoker on Saturday, October 22, 2016 10:25 PM

Have been light on responses the last little while, had to have all the tendons re-bushed and scraped in both hands, (Palms). Had an accident just over fifty years ago, and should have had it done then, but didn't. If anyone should ever wonder what crucifixation feels like there is a proceedure I can recommend. The whole thing has thrown my wo++ schedule off, I have seven cords of wood still needing to be stacked, 24 feet of facia on the roof that needs to be replaced, and just over three square of roofing to do somthing with. I also have a 22 foot fiberglass boat used for lobstering that has had the bottom "oil can" that needs to be re-worked, as well as the center console and the engine that drives the hydraulics for the pot hauler replaced and the mount modified. I also have to cast three dozen five pound lead downrigger weights for bandit fishing offshore this winter for cod and pollock. Don't even want to think about the "Honey-Do" list that has been building.Then there is the matter of two deer to put into the freezer, that is perhaps the least challange, sit in the kitchen and drink coffee until the herd comes out to feed on the clover and chickory, slide the kitchen window open, and don't miss. Just over 30 yards--I use a 1863 .58 cal. Remington Zouave front stuffer.

High wind, NW, temp. is dropping like a rock-down to 46 right now, time to throw more wood into the stove. Later all, prayers to those having tribulation.

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Posted by herrinchoker on Saturday, October 22, 2016 9:32 PM

Henry,

Liberty ships were built in several yards, South Portland Shipyard, in South Portland Maine specialized in building Liberty ships. Omar King ran the yard for a time, they were affiliated with Bath Iron Works, in Bath Maine. The yard closed right after the war.

Originally built, the Liberties had a serious design flaw, in cold weather, and heavy seas they had a nasty habit of the hull cracking due to flexing, and then breaking in half.

This was resolved by a heavy plate being welded&rivited, starting flush with the main deck, and carried fore and aft almost the length of the ship. Pictures of the first flight of ships built did not have this charistic, but after two to three runs to Murmansk the losses nearly equaled the loss to German subs. Some wizzo thought--"Oh, external bracing!", solved the problem. You will see photos of some of the Liberties with this plate, some not. I believe that by the end of the war most had the plateing placed on the hull.

I worked at Bath Iorn Works for a time, as a inside machinist, and out on the ways. Out on the ways also included conversions/upgrade to existing Navy ships in the water. At that time we were building the first flight of FFGs (Fast Frigate) that were powered by two 747 jet engines, hooked to a Westinghouse reduction gear, The gear could only utilize 40% of the available thrust. Speed was in excess of 41 mph. It was alleged that it was possible to water ski behind one, to me that just represented fast trolling for sharks off shore. No thanks.!

The older ships still had the 1200 pound/900 deg. superheated steam to drive the turbines. The life of a Navy ship is determined by number of hours on it's boilers, not when it was built. When the Missouri was brought out of mothballs it was considered to be realitively "new" primarily because of the time on her boilers.

From what I have seen there is more simularity than difference between re-building a steam engine vs a marine boiler. Given the tubes on most marine boilers are much thicker, and I would think of a different steel alloy, the prep, tube rolling, and testing are very much alike. One major difference is any marine boiler I worked on had three fuel nozzles per firebox--bucu heat.

Civillian ships, cargo-etc. generally had 600 pound systems.

Steam still has it's place in industry, and there are a supprising number of people who have the ability to work on the systems.

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, October 22, 2016 9:19 PM

Dianne and I drove up to the Bruce Peninsula today to visit some family. We ran into snow!Grumpy Its only October for Pete's sake!

Last Friday we drove up to Minden in central Ontario and the colours were spectacular!!!

Dave

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Posted by howmus on Saturday, October 22, 2016 9:11 PM

tcwright973
Wednesday we did our annual wine run to Seneca Lake in New York. We got to enjoy the fall foilage in what I think were peak colors.

WHAT!!!!????!!!!

And you didn't stop up at the other end of Seneca Lake to vist the SLO&W???  O well, one of these years I would like to have you visit the Geneva end of the Lake and I will show you around the area here.  I know where that photo was taken...  You were looking East across the lake and I know the new pavilion in the photo.  was it near Fox Run winery?  I was just at Fox Run myself to get something for my son's 47th. Birthday a week ago. (They bottle an excellent group of Riesling!) Don't you just love the Blue of Seneca Lake?  Do you know the bottom of the lake is actually below sea level?  Over 650 feet deep (some sourses say over 800') and primarily fed by underground springs. 328,000 gallons of water flow into the lake per minute!  Here is a shot from one of the Finger Lakes Railway Coaches coming home from the Syracuse Show a few years back.  It was taken on a bridge crossing the North End of Cayuga Lake (Looking West), the next Finger Lake to the East and the second largest of the lakes....  It was evening BTW.

Evening folks!

Janie just a decaf please. 

I am beat!  Long but very successful day today.  The Lakeshores Division NMRA held it's Fall meet in Chili, NY just West of Rochester.  Had some excellent clinics in the Morning and three fine layouts open for the afternoon tours including the RIT Club layout.

The water form the sveral inches of rain we got in the last few days has stopping ozzing into the cellar of my house and I have the dehumidfier on to help dry it out...

Hope everyone ahs a good one!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by tcwright973 on Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:43 PM

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Posted by cudaken on Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:43 PM

 Evening Diners.

 Flo, Ed and I will have a Beer please.

 Another Slow Day At Work. It was a moral victory, had 4 customers and 3 bought but sure not going to pay my bills.

 Big Daddy Enjoyed the video, any photos of what the engine use to look like?

 BBQ is done, I have nothing really to say so later.

 Ken

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Posted by angelob6660 on Saturday, October 22, 2016 10:41 AM

Morning diners,

Henry- Your right not everybody is on Facebook. It was a very interesting video.

My brain kind of quit yesterday figuring out track, structures, rolling stock and arranging them on how it will fit together. I feels like I want to quit also, and go back to my modern era layout. I know it's just a phase in my mind right now, probably because I been to much time, energy and money.

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, October 22, 2016 9:44 AM

Hi railers! I remember that now.  They restored a Liberty ship in Baltimore in the late 1980's.  Liberty ships were built in Baltimore and there were sailors who served on them that came out to volunteer. 

The steam era ended about the same time as the ships but all those guys are 25 years older than when they restored the John Brown.  http://www.liberty-ship.com/  Still steam fitting is steam fitting and machining for a railroad is still machining, on a grand scale.

Henry

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Posted by CentralGulf on Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:55 AM

BigDaddy

Good morning diners.  I forgot to mention in Lumberton NC I saw 2 dump trucks fitted with train wheels rebuilding a grade next to a river. Is there a generic name for these rail/road capable trucks?

I also subscribed to MRVP and saw that UP is restoring a Big Boy.  Drew's Trackside Adventures E 15 or for facebook fans

I don't know who owns the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad, but they got a C&O mallet from the B&O museum and are restoring that. 

I am happy to see that and I wonder how many other Iron Horses are being restored?  And how does this work, I know Union Pacific has money and expertise to do it, but how does a scenic railroad have the money to purchase and do a full restoration and where does the expertise come from?  They don't teach that in shop class anymore.

Trucks that can go on either the road or rail are called hi-railers.

The Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in Chattanooga has a backshop staffed by paid employees and volunteers. The shop's services are available to other steam locomotive owners on a paid basis, and is one source of funding for the TVRM.

I think that much of the expertise comes from OJT given to the volunteers. As I understand it, some go on to become paid employees.  As to where other organizations get the funds, I have no idea. Good question, though.

A ride on the Missionary Ridge Local included a tour of the backshop when I rode it. I assume it still does.

http://www.tvrail.com/

CG

 

 

 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:50 AM

Good morning to YGW and Henry ..... I hope others will join us this morning in the Diner. 

YGW ... I Hope you have model railroading time so you can get your mind off of all the stuff happeneing at work.

Henry ... Interesting about C&O 1309 being restored. That would be a big job. ... Also, vehicles fitted with rail wheels for operation on tracks are called Hi-Rails. Most are smaller than dump truck size, however.

I was doing more track maintenance  on my layout. Then I was running a locomotive to test it and suddenly a circuit breaker cut the power to the track. It was late last night, and I decided to wait to investigate in the morning. I hope it is just a track nail picked up by the motor magnet. Now, it's morning so I check it out after Hoeny-Do's. 

 

Edit:   Go Cubs ! 

 

 

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:34 AM

For you non Facebookers

It's been 40 years since I was a habadasher (Galaxy word for the day meaning mens clothing salesman) and the first thing I noticed Surprise in the video was the curator's sport coats were too big and too long.  If you let your arms hang straight and curl your fingers the end of the coat should fit inside your hand.  Maybe he lost a lot of weight, which would be a good thing.

Henry

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Posted by yougottawanta on Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:03 AM

Morning all

Hope everyone is ready for the weekend. I am FINALLY finished with the last delivery until December. - thank God. This past month had been BRUTAL ! Yesterday at w**k I had to call the police on one of the HOs. Parking is tight at the sight and we only have a few sales parking spaces in the sales area. There is a HO that is from a country where they have different levels of "society" and they treat us like we are below them and their servants Angry so they park their Porsche SUV in the sales parking lot. At the time I didnt know it was theirs and left a message that this was for sales only and if they park there again they will be towed ( we have college students, proffesors  and construction personnel from the college next door , it is a constant battle parking on our few parking spaces it is a constant battle)  it turns out is was our HO. They send me this nasty gram and it degenerated from there. No matter how nice amd proffesional I was they callled me names, threatened legal action etc.. At the end of the day I had had enough and called the police and explained to them this was private parking, clearly marked and that they were going to be trouble, in my thirty years I have NEVER had to call the police.

And on the last Home we delivered the dang HO got down on their hands and knees looking at their house !!!! Until I put a stop to that nonsense Angry They didnt like that and they had some ugly comments about that ! I tell you I do not know what has happened to people - this new generation feels intitled and I am not much impressed with some of the next generation of Americans. In fact I am ashamed of some of them and I feel awful that so many sacrificed so they could act like jerks !

Train front - Still waiting on my permit. Going on three weeks ! I am anxious to get the fdn in before the cold and freezing weather hits. It will only cost more if they dont hurry

TTYL

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Posted by BigDaddy on Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:01 AM

Good morning diners.  I forgot to mention in Lumberton NC I saw 2 dump trucks fitted with train wheels rebuilding a grade next to a river. Is there a generic name for these rail/road capable trucks?

I also subscribed to MRVP and saw that UP is restoring a Big Boy.  Drew's Trackside Adventures E 15 or for facebook fans

I don't know who owns the Western Maryland Scenic Railroad, but they got a C&O mallet from the B&O museum and are restoring that. 

I am happy to see that and I wonder how many other Iron Horses are being restored?  And how does this work, I know Union Pacific has money and expertise to do it, but how does a scenic railroad have the money to purchase and do a full restoration and where does the expertise come from?  They don't teach that in shop class anymore.

I'm full of questions today and no answers.

Henry

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Posted by cudaken on Friday, October 21, 2016 10:23 PM

 Evening Diners

 Flo, Ed and I will have a Beer please.

 Work Front Boy I got a lot of reading done! All so a good nap Zzz I wonder what it would be like to have a job where they want you to work all the time? Guess I will remember when I get a second job.

 

gmpullman
Hey, Ken! That underwear is about 45 years old now. Ya' think maybe it's time to invest in another pair?

 Ed They are Mint! Only wore them 6 months and then I hit a growing spurt. Grew 2 inch's in height and and added 20 pounds in a goodway.

 Far as the Bessemer SD 7's. That is what K-10 Model Trains has them for. Main reason I lost to temptation.

 Ray Sounds like your kittens are just as sweet as Sparkie The Rocket Dog. Never had a dog that gave as much love as he does.

 Steve I had Lasagna last night and will eat the rest of it tonight.

 Well I am beat, trains are running great so later.

 Ken

 

 

 

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Posted by angelob6660 on Friday, October 21, 2016 4:46 PM

Afternoon Diners,

I been trying to figure out the track plan with SCRAM on Kato unitrack. I was wondering if buying individual pieces or buying a M2, V3, & V4 sets. With extra pieces to spare. But I still need to get more switches.

Scram showed me that the M2 set wouldn't fit correctly. And adding V1 set with a #4 switch couldn't fit correctly also.

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Posted by MisterBeasley on Friday, October 21, 2016 4:32 PM

I'm getting the train bug again.  I have some scenery to do, plaster cloth and Gypsolite over foam.  Easy and fun.  The next step is a long, low cliff face.  It will hide the staging tracks.  I'm planning to use Bragdon Foam, as this is right at the front of the thin shelf section of layout, and Bragdon Foam produces the best rock castings by far, particularly when using their molds.  I bought a new mold at a show last spring.

I unpacked all that stuff and discovered to my dismay that the liquid components that I mix to produce the foam had long exceeded their shelf life and were useless.  By chance, I had saved the receipt from the mold I bought, and contacted the local vendor.  Yes, they had the foam, and I could just drive down the road and get it.  Mission accomplished.  Tomorrow, which is going to be cold and rainy anyway, I will do a test casting and then a couple more over the next week, which should give me enough for this project.  I'm not sure how I'll integrate these cliffs with the liftoff sections to access staging, but that's one reason I need to start so I can do the engineering.

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Friday, October 21, 2016 2:45 PM

Good afternoon.

LASAGNA!!!!!!! (In my best Garfield voice) YAY!!!!! 

Yes Flo, an double order of that yummy lasagna, and a coke please.

Weather: Rain, rain, wind, cold and rain. Might snow tomorrow.... But did I mention the rain? Lots of rain. Over 4.5 inches and still falling. (Or, rising...?)

W**k: This is indeed a four-letter word right now. Took a lunch, and am making it a long one. Will be at least 1&1/2 hours, or more.

Trains: Nothing new, SD40-2 project is moving forward nicely. Should have some pics soon.

Steve: Thanks for making the special! 

Mr. B.:  Belated condolences on your FIL.

Flo: This lasagna is delicious, tell Ryan he did great!

Hope all are well, and enjoy the day!

Ricky W.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, October 21, 2016 12:25 PM

moelarrycurly4

Whew after 5 " Come on Eileens" and 3 "Don't worry be happy"

I finnaly spoke to some one. I could have walked to their office quicker, ( it is only 10 blocks down the street) 

 

 

MLC ... You remind me of many "war stories" talking with "support" with various companies. .... Bombay Bob is hard to understand and he never has a useful solution for a problem. 

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Friday, October 21, 2016 11:59 AM

Whew after 5 " Come on Eileens" and 3 "Don't worry be happy"

I finnaly spoke to some one. I could have walked to their office quicker, ( it is only 10 blocks down the street) 

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, October 21, 2016 11:56 AM

Steven .... Even if you did name the website, it would not have been good advertising for them considering your experience. Thanks for the lasagna. I'll have a small portion of the vegatarian spinach, please. 

Ray ... Flash flood warnings in your location. No fun. Good to stay off the roads. I can amagine your PIP would be a floater. 

GARRY

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Posted by howmus on Friday, October 21, 2016 9:23 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe, I need a pot of Marrakesh Express Dark Raost Organic coffee and a couple of those Bavarian Creme Filled Doughnits you have over there on the counter....

"Another rainy day in New York City
Softly sweet, so silently it falls
As cross town traffic crawls
Memories in my way in New York City
Tender, tough, too tragic to be true
And nothing I can do
City workers cheer
The taxis disappear
Another rainy day in New York City
Another spacey stay in New York city
High up in an overpriced hotel
The view is really swell"

Yep!  We are now getting all the rain we didn't get last summer here in the Finger Lakes Region.  Started in earnest yesterday (1.5") and will continue today and most of tomorrow....  Talking about 4" or more.  We are under a Flash Flood Watch at the moment.  if it wasn't for packing everything for the NMRA Meet tomorrow in Rochester, NY I would just go down cellar and play with the trains...

My kitties are over across the room on the floor grooming each other.  Blackie has his paw wrapped around Manét's head all snuggled together.  Wednesday evening I had several members of the adults in the handicapped troop over to have them retake their Youth Protection Training (mandatory every 2 years to recertify) and one of the Grandmothers comes in and sits in the large chair across from the computer.  Manét absolutely adores this lady, and he was over their in a shot to rub her legs and snuggle....  She gets the biggest kick out of him.  Later after they had left and it was just the two Commissioners here, Blackie comes over to me at the computer and starts to paw my leg.  That means either "Daddy, I'm Hungry, or Please pick me up!"  So I picked him up and held him while I talked with the other commissioner.  Immediately Blackie turns his head and licks my nose.  Nose kisses mean "Thank You" I think in kittie culture.  I thought the other guy would never stop grinning.  You gotta love those two kitties I have.  Total sweeties, they are!

OK, time to get back to packing for the Meet!  Later everyone!

73

Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO

We'll get there sooner or later! 

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Posted by Steven Otte on Friday, October 21, 2016 8:57 AM

I use this website (which to avoid advertising I won't name) where you can buy coupons for things like restaurant meals, at up to half price. I had some credit with this website that I wanted to use up, and we've been looking for a good Italian restaurant near our home, so when an offer came up for an Italian restaurant I hadn't tried before, I bought it. Hey, $11 for $20 worth of food, can't go wrong, right? So we get there, and it's not an Italian place, it's an Italian BEEF place. As in, sandwiches and hot dogs. They did have pizza, but I was not in the mood for it, having psyched myself up for pasta. I got a Reuben, which wasn't bad (though the fries were flabby and greasy) and the wife's pizza was likewise flabby and greasy. (Kind of like me.) So, today's Diner special is what I actually wanted for dinner, lasagna.

Traditional

or vegetarian spinach.

Either goes good with garlic bread.

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Posted by moelarrycurly4 on Friday, October 21, 2016 8:42 AM

Good morning, 

I am on hold with tech support and of course the dang song "Come On Eileen" played now I have that earworm. 

Now it is "don't worry by happy".... sigh

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Friday, October 21, 2016 8:04 AM

Good morning ...

Wake up, everybody ! 

Coffee and a cinnamomn roll, please. 

Ed ..... Underwear ? ..... I recall getting socks for Christmas. ... Not on the list I gave Santa Claus. 

 

 

GARRY

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Posted by gmpullman on Thursday, October 20, 2016 6:18 PM

cudaken
Ed the B&O F7's are the best gift I have ever gotton! Beats the heck out of the under ware Mom gave me for Christmass when I was 14!

Hey, Ken! That underwear is about 45 years old now. Ya' think maybe it's time to invest in another pair? Ick!

cudaken
 Train Front Went too K-10 Model Trains again. Looked at the remaning Bessmer SD 7 with sound! What to do, what to do.

I don't know if you shop at Walthers but they have Proto SD-7s with sound clearanced at $150!

https://www.walthers.com/products/scale/ho-scale/on-sale-today/the-warehouse-sale/road-name/bessmer-+-lake-erie

I'm sure glad you are having a good time with your new "toys"!

I'll check in to the Diner later... gotta run!

Ed

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