I also found #3 house contender: it's a tudor style we liked in a 1BR model, but wanted a 2 br minimum...so now i found the 2BR 1 Ba model:
http://www.coolhouseplans.com/details.html?pid=chp-2993&ArchStyle=Tudor
So, to those who Liked #1, do you like this one better? it is 775 sqft instead of 757 sqft and the GR is 14+'x25+', much bigger than the 12x15 GR of number 1.
we shall see..
Maybe YGW could take a long vacation and come build it for us...lol
-G .
Just my thoughts, ideas, opinions and experiences. Others may vary.
HO and N Scale.
After long and careful thought, they have convinced me. I have come to the conclusion that they are right. The aliens did it.
Evening Dinners
Flo, Beer Please.
Latter, Ken
I hate Rust
GM, MEN!
Todya is Saturday, August 8th, 2015!
WHy is it summer goes by so quick, but winter lags soooo loooooong?
Today's word:
Today's quotes:
It's a shallow life that doesn't give a person a few scars. -Garrison Keillor, radio host of Prairie Home Companion {home of Lake WoeBeGone} and author (b. 7 Aug 1942)
You have to learn the rules of the game. And then you have to play better than anyone else.
Everyone should be respected as an individual, but no one idolized.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
***When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity.
Thanks to all who provided input on the hosuing situation.
still looking for poll results: which one do you like? now have 3:
#1:
http://www.coolhouseplans.com/details.html?pid=chp-11455
#2:
http://www.houseplans.com/plan/557-square-feet-2-bedroom-1-bathroom-0-garage-cottage-39331
#3:
http://www.coolhouseplans.com/details.html?pid=chp-2993&ArchStyle=Tudor#staystill
so...which one do you like?
Good Morning!
What a night! At about 2am, we had a big thunderstorm, the lightning made it as bright as daylight! Now it´s all wet & humid, making you feel sticky and icky the moment you step out of the shower.
Galaxy - you know I like the Whidbey´s interior, but I think your option #1 is the best bet in terms of outside looks and interier arrangement, as well as economy. So I´ll still vote for this option.
I am casting my vote for #3. (My previous post was more of a vote against #2, than a vote for #1.) The layout is simple, but functional. Washer and dryer are not in the bathroom. More versatile great room. A nook is better than a dining room.
One more thing. Sixteen years ago, my wife and I built a home. Ours was a custom home--I designed the house, including the elevation, and hired a journeyman draftsman to draw up the blueprints. (You think figuring out a MRR layout is a challenge...) As we started the process, someone told us the secret to success was to hire a marriage counselor and a general contractor, in that order. It definitely stressed our relationship, but we survived. Once you decide on the plans, the real fun begins--flooring, paint, fixtures, and the list goes on.
Richard
Afternoon!
Seems to be a slow day in here!
Found this video on the web - at 1.30 min you can see that steam loco pulling out of my home town´s station:
Mornin' everyone!
Zoe, I'll have a breakfast muffin with egg sausage and cheese, please. A large pot of Organic, Fair Traded, Marrakesh Express Dark Roast Coffee to keep my R&GVRR Mug filled for a while. Oh bring over the half and half as well as my Stevia. Thank you Ma'am!
Galaxy, I think the only really important question is: Which design do you folks like best! I don't care for any of them compared to a few you linked to a while back..... (I liked one that had the bedroom as a loft above the kitchen, but I know that wouldn't work for you. Climbing the ladder to get there might be difficult! LOL) Did you suddenly come into a pile of $$$? How are you going to be able to pay for this? Rhetorical question by the way. I would sure hate to see you go this route and then end up losing what little you have. I wish you the best of luck with all of this!
I have been steadily continuing the clean out, sort, and recycle/throw away routine here. Yesterday I found a carefully preserved box containing a processor for my old G3 Mac. I bought that in 1993! Wonder what I will find today? I also took my huge Easter Cactus outside and repotted it into a larger vase. The ancient pottery one has been crumbling for the last year. By the time I got it outside to the picnic table it had pretty much completely fallen apart. Made it easier to get it out and into the new pot though.
Currently 71°F under hazy skies here in the Finger Lakes Region this morning. Got down to 55°F last night but stayed very comfortable in the house. High today will be around 78°F maybe.
Quote for the day: "By and large, language is a tool for concealing the truth." George Carlin
Have a good one out there!
73
Ray Seneca Lake, Ontario, and Western R.R. (S.L.O.&W.) in HO
We'll get there sooner or later!
Good morning ...
Galaxy ... All 3 look good.... I'll say #3.
We built the house we now live in. The construction process was a nightmare.... An absolute nightmare.
Ulrich .... Thanks for the video..... I saw the part where you say it is your .
hometown. I imagine you have plenty of memories of that town.
Happy model railroading
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
RAy:
Yes, we have a "long term, very low payment" loan to get the property,
It will be up to us to figure out how to finagle the house on top.
Or,we can put the loaned amount to work on a serious down payment for an exising house, but it, too, maycome wiht inherant problems.
If you look at the properties, they are at/under $20k, and could be had for less, I am sure/hoping. so the "loan" with "seriously low payments" is a "small amoutnt' so to speak, enough to get a small lot or two. Land is not moving arund here, but some existing houses at/above $100k are. We would qualify for at least a matching amount of the "low payment" loan f we bouht existing right now, I am hoping to improve our finanaces in a year or two and get a better loan for the CU to build the house, or in the case of the one property, get a deeded double wide on it.
so we now haave options opened up to us that we didn't have before the "seriously low payment" loan.
Thats how,
we are not sure which we like, RAY, so that is why I am taking a poll, i think we like the LOOKS of the drawing in the first house, but the floor plan of #3.
galaxy. . .i think we like the LOOKS of the drawing in the first house, but the floor plan of #3.
You will see the looks every time you drive up to the house. You will experience the floor plan everytime you walk down the hall. I am a practical person; function trumps form.
galaxyThats how, we are not sure which we like, RAY, so that is why I am taking a poll, i think we like the LOOKS of the drawing in the first house, but the floor plan of #3.
Cool! Personally I like #3 the best and #1 second best. I like the open large area (Kitchen, dining, and living area) rather than the very, very small enclosed kitchen of #2. I think you may touch 3 counters at the same time (with no hands...) in there. The kitchen in #2 is the same size as the tiny area I have for my office:
The rectangle made by the back edge of the desks and over to the white table are almost the same size as that kitchen. Small is fine, but I would want some openess to it so I can set up to use more space when needed. Look for options when you have such a tiny total area.
Just my 2¢.
Yeah, small kitchens are known to us. I have exactly 16" of counter top to work on that is't taken up by Microwave, coffee maker and toaster!
ANd HALF the 16" is taken up with stuff I "don't have a place for", and accessories {like a can opener}.
So, small kitchens are not unknown to us.
i don't knwo as we NEED to pic a floorplan NOW< but it helps to envision what you wnat on the property when you go to buy it!
The one property we liked, is actually 2 60'x 150' lots, so we COULD conceivably build on one and sell the other. CAn't buy just one. I don't get the zoning though, must have 30' set back in fornt and in back, but need only 6 {yeah SIX} whole feet on one side and 9 {yeah NINE} feet on the other side? Gees, talk about sticking your arm out o the window and asking for a cup of sugar!!!
We of course, would NOT be able to even get this far without the very low payment loan. SO now we dream.
later
Good Afternoon,
A nice sunny day here, not too hot or cold, just right.
Galaxy, I too think #3 is the best. I like it for the following reasons:
1) The high ceiling in the living room will make a small space seem far larger. Our first house had a 10' ceiling in the living and dining room and people always thought it was a larger house than it was.
2) It is good to have the bedrooms seperate from the other living space.
3) The front entrance isn't directly into the living room which is a good idea in snowy climes.
The only potential downside to that plan is that it might be more expensive to build but I'm sure YGW could give you some advice on that score.
Nothing new here today. We plan on having a pizza and watching the 2nd best marigold hotel movie tonight. The first one was great and we have high hopes for the sequel.
I was at the eye doc this week for a followup on that laser surgery I had a couple of weeks ago. It was a success as the pressure in that eye is right back down to normal range. Now if my ear issue can just clear up I will be 100%. It is a little better with meds I'm on so hears hoping those tubes clear out and stay that way.
Well maybe I'll go downstairs and run a train around for a little while. I'm liking the mike I bought quite a bit.
See you soon,
CN Charlie
3) The front entrance isn't directly into the living room. An important consideration for those who live in snowy climes.
Flo, Beer Please
Sort Of Work Front. God it was slow, only 3 customers on a Saturday? Did get a lot of reading done. I have read 93 books in the last 2 years I have been with my company, good thing I like reading.
Fence Front On the way home I stopped at Lowes with my New VA ID Card and bought a few iteams. Bought 4 Concrete Blocks (for bracing up the gravel and a 4X4X6 foot fence post. Got 40 shovels of gravel out and then I was beat. I am to the point I really need to find out how to brace the gravel and still be able to dig. I have a few ideas on how to brace and still be able to dig. But right now they are just ideas.
When I was done, I placed a concrete and wedge the new post in it, then strung the construction fence back in places. This way the neighbor's will know I am working on the problem.
Galaxy, my self I like # 1 the best. I l so like the flag stone patio of number 2 as well. If my wife and I lived in one, it would have to have a enclosed kitchen, she hates doing dishes as much as I hate cutting the yard. Ours is big with 16 feet of counter top yet there is only 4 feet of spaces that can used. Most of it is covered with crap that my wife thinks Looks Pretty?
we have an alternative plan{s}.
We COULD put a deeded doublewide on slab 28x40 or 42', leave 6' on one side, and 12-14' on the other side to the property lines ON ONE LOT {hter are two and later build plan #1 on the other lot, wiht a 23x30 garage attached, 9 foot form the other side,and the obligatory 6' on the other, then rent out the doublewide to pay the taxes on both properties. {there are two 60' x 150' lots to the property.}.
We should be able to get the property cheaper as it DOESN'T have Nat. gas as advertised. That is a big draw back to us. whne i informed the RE agent the zoning dept told me no nat gas, he asked e if "it is a deal breaker" for us. I played "good cop" and said not so muchfor me, and played "bad cop" for MOH saying It is for MOH. {who has a certain price, I am willing to go $1k higher than MOH, but I think we can split the $1k at $500 above MOH's and $500 below mine.} we shall see.
The double wide route is the less expensive and probably the quickest. so it is an alternative. we have a 28x40 plan we like and a 28x42 plan IF the town allows us to put them on the property.
The Zoning guy actually gave me this idea, as he said :you might wnat to sell one lot: sometime later, and making it one big lot would negate that ability. He is also the one who told me 30' front and back and 6' and 9' on each side for zoning. we could also sell off the double wide.
Evenin' folks!
Janie, I need a mug of decaf at the moment. Thank you Ma'am....
I am officially pooped tonight! Spent most of the day finally KPing the plants here in my Dining room. They all need to be repotted and trimmed back a bit. Yesterday I bought a huge new pot for a very root bound Christmas Cactus that has been sitting on top of an ole milk can I painted for the purpose about 15 or more years ago. The old milk can also needed a new paint job (after sitting under the plant all that time) so it was taken outside brushed off, vacumed, and then scrubbed down again before using a can plus of grey primer on it. This old can has rusted through on the bottom and in the lid but still works well for it is used for. It originally came for our farm where I grew up. Repotted a small Night Blooming Cereus that also needed it. The huge Jade plant that is close to 50 years old got trimmed back, but that is on its way out I'm afraid. It has a bad case of powdery mildew and is now losing most of its leaves. It is also way, way, way too big for the dining room space and I haven't anywhere else I could put it. I will take a cutting or two of branches that look to be in good shape and root them. I can treat a small Jade Plant for the problem a whole lot easier than this 4' across monster I have. At least I would have the old plant in that way as well. That plant goes back to before my wife and I moved to Waverly for my first teaching position. That was in 1968. The other plants that I have that I consider valuable are a couple Elephant Ear Begonias that have been kept going from cuttings from a plant my MIL first got close to 100 years ago. Several family members have been keeping this plant going through cuttings for many, many years. At one time I was the only one that had part of the original plant, At least 6 of us have them and we hope to pass them on down through the families for another generation or two. They need repoting, but are doing well.
I will also need to move the table they have all sat on out to the back porch to refinsh the top. Water has seeped around the glass top I have for it over the years and made a mess of the table top. The more I get done, the more I find that needs to still be done around here!
Oh... The living room is finished! The track lighting was the final touch. Officially done! Last photos I will be posting for a while of the room:
You notice that Manét has adopted the room s his personal space. He now spends every day out there except when he comes to the kitchen for food or to use the little box....
Hope you all have a great night!
gee, I must be here by myself, no ine in in 5 hours? Not even Herr Ulrich?
Hmm, I DO hope he is OK!
Johnboy? It's been a while since we had a report from you?
She took my arm/I don't know how it happened
we took the floor and she said
"Oh don't you dare look back/just keep your eyes on me"
I said "you're holding back"
she said "SHUT UP and DANCE with me"
This woman is my destiny
SHe said "ooh, ooh, hoo
SHUT UP and DANCE with me"
-Walk the Moon
Zoe, I'll have the breakfast buffet this morning. You can bring me a mug of Marrakesh Express Dark Roast Coffee though (and keep them coming).
People must be sleeping in this morning Galaxy.
I shall be spending most of today cleaning again.....
Quote for the day: "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent." - Mahatma Ghandi
Do hope everyone is doing well and having a great day!
Hi guys
ray the living room is looking nice, looks warm and inviting.
just one day off for me this week as I had to work yesterday. I had to clean my aunts gutters fix my other aunts iPad and cut my grass along with laundry. Got it all done and am just doing laundry now before going to my parents for dinner. Wow is my grass looking dry, I don't waste water watering it so it's a yellow brown which is typical for August I guess.
have a few more things I want to get done before going to dinner. Talk to you guys later
There is a nice BBQ chicken {open air carcoal pit} nearby, so we stopped there to get some. YUM!
we stopped there, as we went to the property, looking for Propane tanks. YEP! there they were, including the BIG ones too. The problem with porpane is that it doesn't flow during the coldest of cold weather very well, so.....and we have been having Negative ambient temps for a long time...especially during february...without electric backup.
SO...it may be a deal breaker on the property...unless he comes down to our "special price point", whcih he may not like...
getting vacant land aroudn here MAY come with either oil or propane for heat {I'd rather have propane for cleaness}, we are aware of that...but this is "relatively" in town {on Main Street, no less} property.
So I will contact the realtor and see what he says about the "special price" offer before we actually put in writing If the owner says must se in writing FIRST {ideally anyway I know}, it will probably mean we walk away as HE {the OWNER} misrepresented the listing.
We shall see what we shall see when we shall see it.
JeremyB Wow is my grass looking dry, I don't waste water watering it so it's a yellow brown which is typical for August I guess.
Jeremy: we NEVER water our "lawn" either...and we NEVER treat it either..we let the "weeds" grow, as they STAY GREEN!
LOL
G, I have no idea where you got the idea that propane doesn't "flow" in cold weather.
I have experienced - 35 f here in NW Wisconsin. REAL temp, not WC.
Not once has our propane not fed our furnace. Sometimes waaaaay to fast, but still fed it.
Terry in NW Wisconsin
Queenbogey715 is my Youtube channel
Good to see you Terry, I have been wondering what you've been up to.
I agree with you about the PROPANE. It is a good fuel and it does indeed flow in cold weather. We lived out on Pasqua Lake for five years in the Great White North here. Lots of cold weather, down to -35 to -40 for ten days at a time for periods each winter. We had our young Babies there to worry about, but there never was an issue. House was good and warm all the time. The only complaint that I had was when the price of gasoline started going up in the late 70s, the cost of propane went up too and then the cost to truck it out to you also went up making it a real noticeable difference from where it had been.
So Galaaxy, do not let that be a game changer for you. Cost >>> maybe, but not the flowability.........<<<<
Johnboy out.
from Saskatchewan, in the Great White North..
We have met the enemy, and he is us............ (Pogo)
Flo, please and keep them coming.
Work was a train wreck today! Had some customers but not one would spend a Dime!
Fence Front I spent around a hour on the fence mess. Got one spot of the gravel pretty much to where it needs to befor installing the new post. Now we have some bad heading our way, great! Now I am worried about the gravel washing out and causing the inground pool to burst.
YGW I see you got my photos. I hope you don't think any less of me for the shape I let the property get in. For the last 5 years I was sure I was going to forclosed on so I did not care. I am sure you know had to finally had to hire a lawyer so I could keep the house.
Later, Ken
Good evening ...
We use propane for our furnaces and for the water heaters. It has been very expensive last two years, but the price has eased for the coming year.
Family members just arrived from Cincinnati, and I'll be busy with them for a couple of days.
Janie another cup of decaf for me at the moment, please.
Been out to my son's house for Sunday Dinner. A birthday party actually for his Aunt in Law..... Had sloppy josephs, corn on the cob, tater tots, and birthday cake with ice cream on it.
Ah.... Galaxy? Where did you get the idea that Propane is any problem during the winter around these parts? As other's have said you will have no problem with propane being able to heat your tiny little house in mid winter. I was thoroughly trained along with all my Boy Scouts and their parents at a meeting by a committeeman of the troop who owns the largest propane dealership in the Finger Lakes. He actually brought in several things to demonstrate and show. He gave us all the same training each of his employees gets before they go to work for him. Propane IIRC boils at around -50°F. In a small bottle (1lb. or less) that temp can be reached quite quickly and the liquid will no longer power any equipment Holding the bottle can frostbite your hand though. But, the amount you will have on your property can, even in the unlikely times that the temp gets and stays at lower than -20°F, still be able to transfer plenty of heat to the tank from the "heat" around it to keep the propane above -50°F. Your furnace will not be running 100% of the time so there will be plenty of time for the propane to absorb enough energy from the snow and frozen tundra near it to keep boiling happily away and providing all the propane you will need for your tiny house. Sheesh..... Now, evaporating liquid Propane can freeze exposed flesh in a matter of a second or less. That is a burn that can be very serious. A one pound bottle tossed into a campfire will level everything in its path for hundreds of feet when it explodes with the force of several sticks of dynamite! Did you know that one cup of gasoline has enough power to lift a one ton weight one mile into the air? We drive around with how many gallons of gasoline in the tank of our cars and trucks??? Safety around fuels is a major point of training in the BSA.... Don't worry about having any trouble at all using Propane to heat your house.
Ever have a rocket blow up in your face?
I was ignoring proper safety measures and was only about 10' from it when it stuck on the pad and went nuts. I took my hand of the shutter (it was in Sports Mode) and protected my head and face after that last photo. The rocket ended up less than a foot from me when it stopped. The other end was the rocket motor (still firing) thankfully, or I would have had a trip to the hospital I'm sure. Last time I did that!
Oh... For you steam fans! Nickle Plate Berkshire #765 last weekend going across the old Iron Bridge in Lechworth State Park with a long consist of passenger cars. This was the last time a Steam Locomotive will ever pass over the bridge as it will soon be closed when a replacement is constructed. She is now a major bottleneck to trains as due to the weight restictions and speed reductions it causes some problems. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqB7eFydBRI&feature=youtu.be
Have a great night. Prayers for all in need!