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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:44 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, October 25, 2013 9:11 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, October 26, 2013 9:31 AM

LION has been working on the signals of him. These are the older ones which him made with LEDs and 3/8" balsam sticks. They are nice, but now him is making even nicer ones with components for All Electronics. Photos of these will be forthcoming once I fell like making the photos.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:04 AM

Here is my computer generated tile wall for the 34th Street Station. It is not like the IRT built, but I thought I could do better. It stands here for your comment. The blue tile designs on the floor are just that, blue tile designs on the floor.

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Posted by NorthWest on Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:20 AM

Lion, I like that better. The real mosaics don't really say PRR, too different of a style.

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:57 AM

That looks really good Lion. Do you do bathrooms?

Brent

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:19 AM

BATMAN

That looks really good Lion. Do you do bathrooms?

You mean wallpaper? Or do you want me to build a replica of a genuine NYCT stink hole?

ROAR

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:30 AM

The wife has been bugging me to do yet another bathroom in the house, so I just thought I'd ask.Laugh

But the stink hole sounds like an interesting project.Dinner

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Posted by G Paine on Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:58 PM

BATMAN
But the stink hole sounds like an interesting project.Dinner

Gee Batman, If "stink hole " = Dinner do you get may people accepting invites to a meal at your house??? Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by zstripe on Sunday, October 27, 2013 3:41 PM

Laugh LaughLaugh Hopefully someone used the wrong,''smiley'',yah! tink..Oops

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Posted by BATMAN on Sunday, October 27, 2013 8:00 PM

Right smiley, though I was being somewhat facetious. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by zstripe on Monday, October 28, 2013 3:08 AM

Brent,

Well in that case, I think I'll pass,on dinner, I have to reprimer,the jeep. Laugh

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, October 28, 2013 9:59 AM

Such a thread! Here is a train approaching the 34th Street Station.

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Posted by twcenterprises on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:26 AM

Quite a thread.  I read up on the 76 St station last night, which brought up a question or two.  I saw the "photo" of 76 St station, but after further reading, it was apparently (or at least claimed to be) Photoshopped.  If so, then which station was actually in the photo?  There seems to be quite a bit of controversy whether it was ever built or not.  Clearly photos document the existence of something beyond the cinder block wall, and it was clearly intended to be finished at some point.  One likely explanation could be some sort of geological or water issues, maybe the ground proved unstable after construction/excavation had reached a certain point, rendering the project unsafe or unstable.  That would have been an embarrassment to the Authority, and would be a good reason they have been so hush-hush about it, as well as a good reason to avoid further excavation along that line.  One might then wonder why they have left things as they were, leaving open the possibility of future expansion ... well ... as technology advances, there might be a way to solve the engineering issues at some point in the future, making possible the completion of the route.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:08 AM

twcenterprises
Quite a thread.  I read up on the 76 St station last night, which brought up a question or two.  I saw the "photo" of 76 St station, but after further reading, it was apparently (or at least claimed to be) Photoshopped. 

Ah yes, that article. The photoshopped image was taken at 7th Avenue station in Manhattan, the original is somewhere on NYCSUBWAYS.ORG. You cannot tell now, but the original posting date of that whole article was April 1.

Here is the ORIGINAL photo:

The plan was to continue, but Adolph Hitler has other plans and so World War Two happened, and after the war with plan in abeyance and money short, they just connected that line to the existing Liberty Avenue El.

The tunnels were longer, by how much I do not know, they were truncated and new walls put in place, so the tracks do go under that wall. The line certainly did NOT extend to the county line as there is no evidence of any cut and cover work east of that line. LION thinks that they must have back filled behind the wall, otherwise they would need access for inspection One curious excavator . dug under the wall but all he got was more sand, indicating that it was back filled rather than just being open atmosphere back there.

LION suspects the geological issues mentioned. Once upon a time this was the route of the Hudson River, before it was moved to its present channel.

ROAR

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:48 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, October 30, 2013 9:50 AM

We dig way back into the archives to dig out this early construction shot.

We are looking at the main table, consisting of two ping pong tables end to end. These are heavy-weight tables built when we still ran a school here. As you can see, I have extended the legs so that they will be taller. No tracks are laid on the ping-pong tables. There are on small table-top tables. The tablelet in the fore ground holds my impression of NYP, in the days before I switched to subway trains.  Behind that there is a second tablelet holding what is now the Prospect Park station. The walls around the station demonstrate that this line was always intended to be in an open cut ala the Brighton Line.

Along the back wall are the middle and top levels of the wall mounted "back-40" The red subway train is at the Dyckman Street station before I built the elevated line above the work bench.

I pulled out the tablelet where on the long train is now parked, removed the tracks and switch machines and replaced it with a four track 34th Street subway station and some holding yards on the other side of the station.

But to WIRE on the new module is an issue, since I do not have access to the bottom of the tablelet, since that of course is setting on the ping-pong tables. Enter one LONG drill bit, to drill through both table surfaces. Insert a drinking straw through both holes, now any wires will pass through these to the underside of the tables and can be fished to the table edge and to one of the patch panels for wiring to the layout circuitry.

Below is how I mounted Tortoise switch machines on the area with no accessible underside.

ROAR

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:05 AM

A Work in Progress...

This is the 122nd Street Portal on the Broadway Line. The train is approaching the 125th Street Station. The building is correct for the background, but I'll ndeed to do something with the plank space above the train. I also want to finish Broadway south of this portal so that it look correct.

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Posted by joe323 on Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:30 PM

Nice Work Lion

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, November 1, 2013 6:59 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, November 2, 2013 7:00 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Sunday, November 3, 2013 9:18 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, November 4, 2013 7:05 AM

Work train (sans, yet, the black stripes) pauses at the Smith 9th Street station. The 42nd Street subway station can be seen on the next level up.

The car in tow is a Japanese prototype. NYCT never cut cars down like this to make them into work cars. This one is still (on the prototype) self propelled.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:12 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, November 6, 2013 6:56 AM

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Posted by zstripe on Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:37 AM

Lion,

You are just going to have to stop,snacking,on the passenger's, your ridership,is way down. Before long,you won't need  ''The Money Train''. Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:05 AM

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Friday, November 8, 2013 9:01 AM

The east wall of the layout room. This (middle) level shows Parkside Avenue in the foreground, and Cortelyou Road down the line. In the distance on the upper level is the Botanic Garden Station.

The fascia is festooned with the wiring for the signal and control system, once that works as planned (we cannot really say designed) it will be covered by a finished removable fascia.

ROAR

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Posted by Osibisa on Friday, November 8, 2013 5:04 PM
Lion, I never liked the red car in your last post. Why do you ask? Because as a kid I wasn't tall enough to look out the front window!

I grew up around the BMT (QJ KK), and IND (E F EE GG). Wish we had some inexpensive models of those types too.

Right now on way home from work riding the NJT NEC out of Penn Station. Oddly I've only ridden the LIRR three times in my life, and a double decker one of those three with my parents coming home from the Worlds Fair back in 1965.
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Posted by BroadwayLion on Saturday, November 9, 2013 8:55 AM

Here is an interesting interpretation, of what, I do not know. Obviously the switches are completely out of service, the rails on the crossover are rusted. This used to be the end of the line and the crossover was used to turn trains here, but since the construction of the 242nd Street Station this track has become obsolete. Many railroads would have either pulled them out (perhaps that is pending) or left them in reserve in case they were needed.

What actually happened is that the Interlocking Plant has only 36 levers and the lever for these switches was used for something else, so the tower has no control over these switches. Ergo, they do not want anyone to mess with them by hand as they would not know about it.

If the crossover is needed, MOW crews can remove the barrier and switch tenders and flagmen can manually operate the plant under the direction of the tower.

ROAR

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